Ryan Broyles (1 Viewer)

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

Every time I hear someone mention Broyles they have nothing but positive things to say about him pre-injury.

"First Round Talent" - Matt Walmdan

"Smooth route runner with natural quicks" - Greg Cosell

"Steal of the draft if you can wait a year" - Sirius NFL Radio Host

Where does he go in the NFL draft and where *should* he go in rookie drafts? By all accounts an ACL takes ~1 full year to recover completely from, which would mean for Broyles his rookie campaign would be a wash.....but if you can afford to stash him, is he worth a late 1st round pick? Early 2nd? Late 2nd or early 3rd?

 

[Chase Stuart]

Broyles looks to be an elite talent, although I think he has some of the ??s that other OU and B12 spread offense WRs have had in the past. That said, I think it's clear he made Landry Jones, and not the other way around.

 

[Max Power]

I think he's a late second / early 3rd rd pick. Of course a lot depends on where he goes. His college numbers were great, but I personally don't see anything special about him.

 

[MAC_32]

Always thought he was over rated pre injury, may be properly valued now. He could be a good role player, about it though. If he goes to the right situation I'll consider him if he slips a bit.

 

[zadok]

The next Derrick Mason. Draft accordingly.

 

[Zimm]

I really don't know if i would draft Broyles, But i do like him as a player and i don't see much playing time for Broyles before week 7-8 because he is still recovering from his knee injury yet and still isn't back to full strength on top of having to learn a complex playbook. I would just pick him up on the waiver wire mid-season and hope for the best.

 

[Tick]

Broyles looks to be an elite talent, although I think he has some of the ??s that other OU and B12 spread offense WRs have had in the past. That said, I think it's clear he made Landry Jones, and not the other way around.

He looked great at OU, but as you said, so did Kelly, Iglesias, Clayton, and Travis Wilson. None of them seem to be able to run a route, though.

 

[Guinis72]

I can see him going in the 4th round of the NFL draft and late 2nd / early 3rd in dynasty rookie drafts. I'm a fan and think the Derrick Mason comparison is a good one......his numbers are sick, 1157 yds in 8.5 games in 2011, 131 rec in 2010.

 

[Christo]

Broyles looks to be an elite talent, although I think he has some of the ??s that other OU and B12 spread offense WRs have had in the past. That said, I think it's clear he made Landry Jones, and not the other way around.

We'll see. I think it's more an issue of the other OU receivers disappearing when Broyles went down. I remember a few years ago some people were claiming that Manny Johnson and Juaquin Iglesias were the reason Bradford was so successful.

 

[Shutout]

The more of a speed guy you think he is, the lower you rate him.

The more of good route running guy you think he is, the higher you rate him.

The opinions of those two things seem to vary wildy (and I honestly do not know).

 

[loose circuits]

there are so many WR's in this draft, it's hard to tell where he belongs. Probably at the end of a huge tier 3 for me...

 

[MAC_32]

The more of a speed guy you think he is, the lower you rate him.The more of good route running guy you think he is, the higher you rate him.The opinions of those two things seem to vary wildy (and I honestly do not know).

Speed guys can learn to run routes, route runners can't learn to be fast. That's where the infatuation with speed comes from.

 

[jurb26]

Always thought he was over rated pre injury, may be properly valued now. He could be a good role player, about it though. If he goes to the right situation I'll consider him if he slips a bit.

Me too. He's small, not very fast, lacks explosivness off the line and greatly struggles to beat press coverage. He's also got short arms and small hands, though I do think he catches the ball fairly well. The Oklahoma offence allowed him to play in space almost all of the time and that is why he produced IMO. That won't happen in the NFL. I hope he gets healthy and finds a place in the NFL, but I don't think there will ever be any fantasy value in him.

 

[Shutout]

The more of a speed guy you think he is, the lower you rate him.The more of good route running guy you think he is, the higher you rate him.The opinions of those two things seem to vary wildy (and I honestly do not know).

Speed guys can learn to run routes, route runners can't learn to be fast. That's where the infatuation with speed comes from.

Completely agree with that but the monkey wrench is "is the speed compromised due to the injury?"

 

[MAC_32]

The more of a speed guy you think he is, the lower you rate him.The more of good route running guy you think he is, the higher you rate him.The opinions of those two things seem to vary wildy (and I honestly do not know).

Speed guys can learn to run routes, route runners can't learn to be fast. That's where the infatuation with speed comes from.

Completely agree with that but the monkey wrench is "is the speed compromised due to the injury?"

I wasn't referring to him as a speed guy, he wasn't that fast to begin with.

 

[jurb26]

The more of a speed guy you think he is, the lower you rate him.The more of good route running guy you think he is, the higher you rate him.The opinions of those two things seem to vary wildy (and I honestly do not know).

Speed guys can learn to run routes, route runners can't learn to be fast. That's where the infatuation with speed comes from.

Completely agree with that but the monkey wrench is "is the speed compromised due to the injury?"

I wasn't referring to him as a speed guy, he wasn't that fast to begin with.

You are correct. I'm not sure where the idea that he was ever that fast came from. Perhaps because he looked fast playing in space a lot in the OU offense? I should have added that he also comes from a very limited route tree and one that is nothing like those in the NFL.

 

[cstu]

Usually I don't put a lot of stock in 'players from school X are busts' but there's a pretty bad track record of WR's drafted in the first 3 rounds from OU:

Juaquin Iglesias

Malcolm Kelly

Travis Wilson

Mark Clayton

Mark Bradley

Brandon Jones

 

[loose circuits]

Ended up in an ideal situation IMO

I think he's a top 10 rookie. Snagged him at 2.01 in one league and 3.01 in another. When I saw him sliding I had to jump up. Guess I overpaid in the other league but I wanted my guy. I expect the dividends to pay off in 2013 when he's completely healthy and adjusted to the offense

 

[finito]

Ended up in an ideal situation IMOI think he's a top 10 rookie. Snagged him at 2.01 in one league and 3.01 in another. When I saw him sliding I had to jump up. Guess I overpaid in the other league but I wanted my guy. I expect the dividends to pay off in 2013 when he's completely healthy and adjusted to the offense

Does this mean Titus Young is worthless? The odd guy out isn't going to get much more than scraps as he'll be the 4th/5th option.

 

[jurb26]

Ended up in an ideal situation IMOI think he's a top 10 rookie. Snagged him at 2.01 in one league and 3.01 in another. When I saw him sliding I had to jump up. Guess I overpaid in the other league but I wanted my guy. I expect the dividends to pay off in 2013 when he's completely healthy and adjusted to the offense

Does this mean Titus Young is worthless? The odd guy out isn't going to get much more than scraps as he'll be the 4th/5th option.

Young will be taking over the WR2 role sooner rather than later. Broyles will fit ideally in the slot for Det. I agree, there aren't very many places he could have gone that were better than Det.

 

[loose circuits]

Ended up in an ideal situation IMOI think he's a top 10 rookie. Snagged him at 2.01 in one league and 3.01 in another. When I saw him sliding I had to jump up. Guess I overpaid in the other league but I wanted my guy. I expect the dividends to pay off in 2013 when he's completely healthy and adjusted to the offense

Does this mean Titus Young is worthless? The odd guy out isn't going to get much more than scraps as he'll be the 4th/5th option.

Young will be taking over the WR2 role sooner rather than later. Broyles will fit ideally in the slot for Det. I agree, there aren't very many places he could have gone that were better than Det.

I don't see Titus being the 2nd wr at 174 lbs. Broules se the NCAA record for catches playing in a big time conference. While college doesn't always translate the guy makes it look easy

 

[cstu]

I was turned off by this age - he turned 24 last month. Not that big of a deal for a WR, but with the ACL setting his NFL development back I wasn't interested in spending a 2nd on him.

 

[finito]

Ended up in an ideal situation IMOI think he's a top 10 rookie. Snagged him at 2.01 in one league and 3.01 in another. When I saw him sliding I had to jump up. Guess I overpaid in the other league but I wanted my guy. I expect the dividends to pay off in 2013 when he's completely healthy and adjusted to the offense

Does this mean Titus Young is worthless? The odd guy out isn't going to get much more than scraps as he'll be the 4th/5th option.

Young will be taking over the WR2 role sooner rather than later. Broyles will fit ideally in the slot for Det. I agree, there aren't very many places he could have gone that were better than Det.

But who will be productive? There's very little chance that Calvin, Pettigrew, Titus and Broyles are all viable fantasy starters, there probably aren't enough balls to go around. Someone is going to disappoint, and it's either Titus or Broyles.

 

[jurb26]

Ended up in an ideal situation IMOI think he's a top 10 rookie. Snagged him at 2.01 in one league and 3.01 in another. When I saw him sliding I had to jump up. Guess I overpaid in the other league but I wanted my guy. I expect the dividends to pay off in 2013 when he's completely healthy and adjusted to the offense

Does this mean Titus Young is worthless? The odd guy out isn't going to get much more than scraps as he'll be the 4th/5th option.

Young will be taking over the WR2 role sooner rather than later. Broyles will fit ideally in the slot for Det. I agree, there aren't very many places he could have gone that were better than Det.

I don't see Titus being the 2nd wr at 174 lbs. Broules se the NCAA record for catches playing in a big time conference. While college doesn't always translate the guy makes it look easy

Young is vastly more talented than Broyles. That's my opinion of course. Broyles college stats are meaningless to what he will do now.

 

[loose circuits]

Ended up in an ideal situation IMOI think he's a top 10 rookie. Snagged him at 2.01 in one league and 3.01 in another. When I saw him sliding I had to jump up. Guess I overpaid in the other league but I wanted my guy. I expect the dividends to pay off in 2013 when he's completely healthy and adjusted to the offense

Does this mean Titus Young is worthless? The odd guy out isn't going to get much more than scraps as he'll be the 4th/5th option.

Young will be taking over the WR2 role sooner rather than later. Broyles will fit ideally in the slot for Det. I agree, there aren't very many places he could have gone that were better than Det.

I don't see Titus being the 2nd wr at 174 lbs. Broules se the NCAA record for catches playing in a big time conference. While college doesn't always translate the guy makes it look easy

Young is vastly more talented than Broyles. That's my opinion of course. Broyles college stats are meaningless to what he will do now.

Like I said they don't always translate, Schwartz was gushing when I heard him talk about him. Broyles is going to replace Nate in a year while Titus will maintain his role. Your speak of 'vastly' more talent sounds like a true Titus owner

 

[jurb26]

Ended up in an ideal situation IMOI think he's a top 10 rookie. Snagged him at 2.01 in one league and 3.01 in another. When I saw him sliding I had to jump up. Guess I overpaid in the other league but I wanted my guy. I expect the dividends to pay off in 2013 when he's completely healthy and adjusted to the offense

Does this mean Titus Young is worthless? The odd guy out isn't going to get much more than scraps as he'll be the 4th/5th option.

Young will be taking over the WR2 role sooner rather than later. Broyles will fit ideally in the slot for Det. I agree, there aren't very many places he could have gone that were better than Det.

I don't see Titus being the 2nd wr at 174 lbs. Broules se the NCAA record for catches playing in a big time conference. While college doesn't always translate the guy makes it look easy

Young is vastly more talented than Broyles. That's my opinion of course. Broyles college stats are meaningless to what he will do now.

Like I said they don't always translate, Schwartz was gushing when I heard him talk about him. Broyles is going to replace Nate in a year while Titus will maintain his role. Your speak of 'vastly' more talent sounds like a true Titus owner

My vested interest is in Stafford.

 

[loose circuits]

Ended up in an ideal situation IMOI think he's a top 10 rookie. Snagged him at 2.01 in one league and 3.01 in another. When I saw him sliding I had to jump up. Guess I overpaid in the other league but I wanted my guy. I expect the dividends to pay off in 2013 when he's completely healthy and adjusted to the offense

Does this mean Titus Young is worthless? The odd guy out isn't going to get much more than scraps as he'll be the 4th/5th option.

Young will be taking over the WR2 role sooner rather than later. Broyles will fit ideally in the slot for Det. I agree, there aren't very many places he could have gone that were better than Det.

I don't see Titus being the 2nd wr at 174 lbs. Broules se the NCAA record for catches playing in a big time conference. While college doesn't always translate the guy makes it look easy

Young is vastly more talented than Broyles. That's my opinion of course. Broyles college stats are meaningless to what he will do now.

Like I said they don't always translate, Schwartz was gushing when I heard him talk about him. Broyles is going to replace Nate in a year while Titus will maintain his role. Your speak of 'vastly' more talent sounds like a true Titus owner

My vested interest is in Stafford.

Well you should be happy all the way around then.Had Broyles came out a year ago he would have Been drafted much higher than Titus young.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Broyles looks to be an elite talent, although I think he has some of the ??s that other OU and B12 spread offense WRs have had in the past. That said, I think it's clear he made Landry Jones, and not the other way around.

We'll see. I think it's more an issue of the other OU receivers disappearing when Broyles went down. I remember a few years ago some people were claiming that Manny Johnson and Juaquin Iglesias were the reason Bradford was so successful.

Broyles is a prefect slot guy and can return punts, he'll contribute as soon as he's healthy. He is a guy who you can depend on to catch anything near him, and he has the ability to break a long one especially if you're gonna use a safety to cover him. Pretty good spot for him in Detroit, he's never going to be depended on until he is a vet and I think he'll generally surprise doubters. I think he is a Joe Horn type, he will catch everything and he has big play potential.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Ended up in an ideal situation IMO

I think he's a top 10 rookie. Snagged him at 2.01 in one league and 3.01 in another. When I saw him sliding I had to jump up. Guess I overpaid in the other league but I wanted my guy. I expect the dividends to pay off in 2013 when he's completely healthy and adjusted to the offense

Does this mean Titus Young is worthless? The odd guy out isn't going to get much more than scraps as he'll be the 4th/5th option.

Young will be taking over the WR2 role sooner rather than later. Broyles will fit ideally in the slot for Det. I agree, there aren't very many places he could have gone that were better than Det.

I don't see Titus being the 2nd wr at 174 lbs. Broules se the NCAA record for catches playing in a big time conference. While college doesn't always translate the guy makes it look easy

Young is vastly more talented than Broyles. That's my opinion of course. Broyles college stats are meaningless to what he will do now.

Vastly? Even if that is your opinion you couldn't make the case based on their careers so far or anything else, only time will tell. I think they are similar in talent but Broyles is a football player, not just a wide receiver. His intangibles are off the charts, he gets it.

 

[Eminence]

I'll take the guy without a torn ACL.

 

[jurb26]

My vested interest is in Stafford.

Well you should be happy all the way around then.Had Broyles came out a year ago he would have Been drafted much higher than Titus young.

I would have been most happy if they had continued to draft Olinemen to help ensure Stafford stayed on the field but that's another topic altogether.I am happy. I just happen to feel that Broyles is almost an ideal slot WR in that offense. I wasn't a fan of Broyles prior to the draft and I'm sure you could look in other threads to see that. It has nothing to do with Young and if you find those threads you will see that. I've never felt Broyles was 1st round material, pre injury or not. I think his stats have been inflated by the OU offense and I've given my reasons as to why before. I'm a believer in Young and think he is a future WR2 with immense potential in that offense. From my selfish standpoint, what is best for Stafford fantasy success, it's lining up Calvin WR1, Young WR2, Burelson WR3 right now and Broyles WR3 next year. You don't have to agree with that, but I never like when people reach to the default "you sound like a player x owner." The fact of the matter is that most people probably become owners of player x because of how they evaluated them in relation to everyone else. I'm targeting Young in most of my leagues.

 

[loose circuits]

I'll take the guy without a torn ACL.

Did you take Edelman over Welker a few years back?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I'll take the guy without a torn ACL.

Jabar Gaffney is a FA now.

 

[loose circuits]

I'll take the guy without a torn ACL.

Jabar Gaffney is a FA now.

actually he signed with New England...

 

[Eminence]

I'll take the guy without a torn ACL.

Did you take Edelman over Welker a few years back?

If Edelman had comparable talent to Welker, I sure would have. I don't know how Broyles will be utilized in that Offense but at this time I'm looking at WHO the Lions took in the 2nd Round last-year; Titus Young.Beyond this year, sure. But at this point you'll have:

Calvin Johnson

Titus Young

Nate Burleson

Jahvid Best

All acclimated in that Offense. Broyles will have to jump over two other guys just to be the #2 Receiver on that team; I don't see him unseating Titus Young who quietly had a great year in Detroit:

48 Receptions / 607 Yard / 6TD

For what it's worth (once the season starts):

Ryan Broyles (24 Years Old) - 2nd Round Pick

Titus Young (23 Years Old) - 2nd Round Pick

Calvin Johnson (27 Years Old) 1st Round Pick

Jahvid Best (23 Years Old) - 1st Round Pick

That's a young core of Offensive talent that won't be going anywhere in awhile. I'm not doubting Broyle's talent but calling a guy a "Dynasty Steal" that is:

1.) Coming back from an ACL injury.

2.) Missing crucial off-season workouts with the team.

3.) Has a young - talented cast to rise above.

Is outrageous. Especially when I'm seeing plenty of Rookie drafts where he's being drafted AHEAD of players like A.J. Jenkins.

 

[Ilov80s]

Two things from a Detroit fan. Titus is the outside WR. He is better suited for it as he is a better vertical threat. He already showed last year that it is his spot. Secondly, Broyles commented that his doctors believe he will be ready for training camp. He ran a 4.57 a month ago so it seems like things are progressing.

 

[loose circuits]

I'll take the guy without a torn ACL.

Did you take Edelman over Welker a few years back?

If Edelman had comparable talent to Welker, I sure would have. I don't know how Broyles will be utilized in that Offense but at this time I'm looking at WHO the Lions took in the 2nd Round last-year; Titus Young.Beyond this year, sure. But at this point you'll have:

Calvin Johnson

Titus Young

Nate Burleson

Jahvid Best

All acclimated in that Offense. Broyles will have to jump over two other guys just to be the #2 Receiver on that team; I don't see him unseating Titus Young who quietly had a great year in Detroit:

48 Receptions / 607 Yard / 6TD

For what it's worth (once the season starts):

Ryan Broyles (24 Years Old) - 2nd Round Pick

Titus Young (23 Years Old) - 2nd Round Pick

Calvin Johnson (27 Years Old) 1st Round Pick

Jahvid Best (23 Years Old) - 1st Round Pick

That's a young core of Offensive talent that won't be going anywhere in awhile. I'm not doubting Broyle's talent but calling a guy a "Dynasty Steal" that is:

1.) Coming back from an ACL injury.

2.) Missing crucial off-season workouts with the team.

3.) Has a young - talented cast to rise above.

Is outrageous. Especially when I'm seeing plenty of Rookie drafts where he's being drafted AHEAD of players like A.J. Jenkins.

i think the dynasty steal came from before the draft. I said he's great value. Doesn't AJ Jenkins have his own competition? Ruben Randle for that matter or any of the other guys in that area outside of Quick and Givens?

 

[Tick]

For what it's worth (once the season starts):



Jahvid Best (23 Years Old) - 1st Round Pick

That's a young core of Offensive talent that won't be going anywhere in awhile.

I'm not sure he'll ever be back on the field.

 

[Phenix]

For what it's worth (once the season starts):



Jahvid Best (23 Years Old) - 1st Round Pick

That's a young core of Offensive talent that won't be going anywhere in awhile.

I'm not sure he'll ever be back on the field.

 

[bmsarvis]

In two wr sets i could see titus and broyles being interchangeable (after burleson moves on) and i do see where broyles or even calvin could go in the slot as a move the chains piece with titus going deep. Jmo. Detroit homer. I dont think det will use the little guy in the slot alot when they can put em deep and have a safety over him and calvin n grab easy yards with broyles pettigrew n the rb which ever one that ends up being. Like i said this is pure speculation.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Yeah I think Burleson has one more year in Detroit, then he gone.

 

[Langly]

I actually like Reuben Randl's chance. Look at what Manningham did, and I think Randle has better talent.

 

[clwn_posse]

I actually like Reuben Randl's chance. Look at what Manningham did, and I think Randle has better talent.

meh...he has better measurables but I think Manningham is more talented. Eli will show us how talented he is pretty early, I think.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Hindsight 20/20 as always...but wish DET grabbed Konz in the 2nd and took Marvin Jones in the 4-5th rounds. Oh well, if Broyles recovers well I am sure he will be a contributor.

 

[Tick]

For what it's worth (once the season starts):



Jahvid Best (23 Years Old) - 1st Round Pick

That's a young core of Offensive talent that won't be going anywhere in awhile.

I'm not sure he'll ever be back on the field.

I'm saying that there's a decent chance that Best has had enough concussions that he won't play football again. He might not be someone competing for targets with Broyles.

 

[Bri]

Florida WRs weren't much either and were often considered far better than OU WRs.

Sometimes I wonder how OU WRs would do if they didn't seem to wind up on the Bears so often.

Like many said already, he'll have to get on the field and that'll be difficult.

Broyles developed so very nicely at OU, he's a very well rounded WR that just might be able to impress from the word "go." He's not a raw WR that needs 3-4 years and we say all those normal things about. I'm confident that training camp news will let us know enough for our drafts.

If the draft is before, him being a 2nd round dynasty pick is nice. Again, he's well rounded. If he gets in he's probably going to produce some even if just pedestrian figures. I'm way more confident in him than all the dynasty WRs I've drafted over the years that needed time and never panned out.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Rather have Titus

 

[Mortimer Ichabod]

How did he look last night? I see he had a couple catches.

 

[ATC1]

Titus Young has been getting all the praise in camp.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

How did he look last night? I see he had a couple catches.

I thought he looked good when I saw him. The starters were out by then.