Ryan Clady (1 Viewer)

[Blood Farmer]

Several teams really need quality OT play. It seems that Clady will be able to plug a hole for someone if I am right about his potential.

Jake Long will be too expensive to trade up to get but I think that I pick five or six comes up it would be very wise for someone to move up and get Clady. Offensive linemen have longer careers that RBs and DBs. I have never understood why the quality OTs have historically been pushed down draft boards. If does seem that this drop has not occurred for the past few years and I wonder if teams are starting to come to the same conclusion as I have.

Also, it seems that the drop off from Clady to the next OT is very severe. I guess

Otah is the next in line but his potential seems to be more limited.

Any thoughts? Am I overrating Clady? Am I overrating OT?

 

[Max Power]

Obviously Long is the #1 prospect and Clady the clear cut #2. Williams is on the rise while Otah is dropping. Nicks and Gosder are right in the mix as well. I guess I don't see the drop off to be as severe as you. If Jake Long was in the 07 draft, he might have been the 3rd Tackle off the board.

Personally I would not be shocked to see KC take Clady with the 5th pick. I know the BEARS are very high on this kid and will probably sit back on draft day and wait to see if falls to 14.

I think the 5/6 range is too high. A team targeting Clady should be looking to move into the 10th (N.O.) or 11th (Buf) picks. No way Clady makes it through the Den/Car/Chi picks.

I'm not sure GMs would really want to move up that much to grab him when they can get a Guy like Sam Baker a round and a half later who might be just as good.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

While it's always difficult to project who the Patriots will select,

I would be at all surprised to see them announce Ryan Clady's name with the #7 pick.

 

[Blood Farmer]

Obviously Long is the #1 prospect and Clady the clear cut #2. Williams is on the rise while Otah is dropping. Nicks and Gosder are right in the mix as well. I guess I don't see the drop off to be as severe as you. If Jake Long was in the 07 draft, he might have been the 3rd Tackle off the board.

Personally I would not be shocked to see KC take Clady with the 5th pick. I know the BEARS are very high on this kid and will probably sit back on draft day and wait to see if falls to 14.

I think the 5/6 range is too high. A team targeting Clady should be looking to move into the 10th (N.O.) or 11th (Buf) picks. No way Clady makes it through the Den/Car/Chi picks.

I'm not sure GMs would really want to move up that much to grab him when they can get a Guy like Sam Baker a round and a half later who might be just as good.

IMO, I agree that Williams is the #3. It seemed to me that the people that liked Otah better than Williams were a little higher on him than the people that preferred Williams so that is why I intended to state that Otah was the next most highly valued OT. Of course this is all speculation at this point.Back to my point. I agree with every thing that you have said from a historical point. However IMO, true quality at OT is undervalued in the draft and I really see Clady as a guy that can be special for a number of years. If I were Chicago I would attempt to move up to get him if KC passes. Of course, if I were KC he would be off the board immediately at #5. Seriously, what other player could help KC more that a top quality OT.

So, if KC passes I predict that Clady will be the Round #1 draft steal of 2008.

 

[Max Power]

Obviously Long is the #1 prospect and Clady the clear cut #2. Williams is on the rise while Otah is dropping. Nicks and Gosder are right in the mix as well. I guess I don't see the drop off to be as severe as you. If Jake Long was in the 07 draft, he might have been the 3rd Tackle off the board.

Personally I would not be shocked to see KC take Clady with the 5th pick. I know the BEARS are very high on this kid and will probably sit back on draft day and wait to see if falls to 14.

I think the 5/6 range is too high. A team targeting Clady should be looking to move into the 10th (N.O.) or 11th (Buf) picks. No way Clady makes it through the Den/Car/Chi picks.

I'm not sure GMs would really want to move up that much to grab him when they can get a Guy like Sam Baker a round and a half later who might be just as good.

IMO, I agree that Williams is the #3. It seemed to me that the people that liked Otah better than Williams were a little higher on him than the people that preferred Williams so that is why I intended to state that Otah was the next most highly valued OT. Of course this is all speculation at this point.Back to my point. I agree with every thing that you have said from a historical point. However IMO, true quality at OT is undervalued in the draft and I really see Clady as a guy that can be special for a number of years. If I were Chicago I would attempt to move up to get him if KC passes. Of course, if I were KC he would be off the board immediately at #5. Seriously, what other player could help KC more that a top quality OT.

So, if KC passes I predict that Clady will be the Round #1 draft steal of 2008.

Have you seen Baca's OT rankings? He has Otah all the way at 6...http://nfldraftguys.com/rankings/08_Draft_...nkings_Baca.php

I don't see Chicago moving up. The Bears have a lot of needs and plan to address several starting positions in the draft this year

I can only wonder if Jake Long to the Rams is a lock like everyone seems to think it is.

 

[FTRWRTR]

I think it all depends on what the rams do, if they take jake long like alot of mocks say they will I can see atlanta trading down with the jets and the top of the draft would look like:

#3 jets - dmac

#4 oakland - ellis

#5 kc - ryan

#6 atlanta - cady

If cady doesn't get taken by KC or ATL I think the ravens take him at #7

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I think it all depends on what the rams do, if they take jake long like alot of mocks say they will I can see atlanta trading down with the jets and the top of the draft would look like:#3 jets - dmac#4 oakland - ellis#5 kc - ryan#6 atlanta - cadyIf cady doesn't get taken by KC or ATL I think the ravens take him at #7

New England picks at #7.I don't think he slides past this slot.Ravens pick at #8.

 

[FTRWRTR]

I think it all depends on what the rams do, if they take jake long like alot of mocks say they will I can see atlanta trading down with the jets and the top of the draft would look like:#3 jets - dmac#4 oakland - ellis#5 kc - ryan#6 atlanta - cadyIf cady doesn't get taken by KC or ATL I think the ravens take him at #7

New England picks at #7.I don't think he slides past this slot.Ravens pick at #8.

Thanx for the clarification. The mocks I've see have NE taking a db but either way clady's not falling out of the top 10.So realistically a team would need to trade up to #5 to make sure they get clady and I don't see that happening

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I think it all depends on what the rams do, if they take jake long like alot of mocks say they will I can see atlanta trading down with the jets and the top of the draft would look like:#3 jets - dmac#4 oakland - ellis#5 kc - ryan#6 atlanta - cadyIf cady doesn't get taken by KC or ATL I think the ravens take him at #7

New England picks at #7.I don't think he slides past this slot.Ravens pick at #8.

Thanx for the clarification. The mocks I've see have NE taking a db but either way clady's not falling out of the top 10.So realistically a team would need to trade up to #5 to make sure they get clady and I don't see that happening

I would be cool with either Gholston or Clady coming to New England.Truth is the Pats don't normally spend high picks at DB. They turn to vetsto fill these positions. That said, Gholston would be sweet in New England.After the offensive line was dominated in the SB, I think Clady will go to NE at 7if he is still on the board.

 

[kremenull]

I think it all depends on what the rams do, if they take jake long like alot of mocks say they will I can see atlanta trading down with the jets and the top of the draft would look like:#3 jets - dmac#4 oakland - ellis#5 kc - ryan#6 atlanta - cadyIf cady doesn't get taken by KC or ATL I think the ravens take him at #7

New England picks at #7.I don't think he slides past this slot.Ravens pick at #8.

Thanx for the clarification. The mocks I've see have NE taking a db but either way clady's not falling out of the top 10.So realistically a team would need to trade up to #5 to make sure they get clady and I don't see that happening

Wishful thinking for the GangGreen......The Jets have absolutely zero ammo to move up in this draft......they've traded far too many draft picks already and have nobody outside of (damaged goods) DeWayne Robertson as trade bait...It ain't happenin'!

 

[kremenull]

Obviously Long is the #1 prospect and Clady the clear cut #2. Williams is on the rise while Otah is dropping. Nicks and Gosder are right in the mix as well. I guess I don't see the drop off to be as severe as you. If Jake Long was in the 07 draft, he might have been the 3rd Tackle off the board.

Personally I would not be shocked to see KC take Clady with the 5th pick. I know the BEARS are very high on this kid and will probably sit back on draft day and wait to see if falls to 14.

I think the 5/6 range is too high. A team targeting Clady should be looking to move into the 10th (N.O.) or 11th (Buf) picks. No way Clady makes it through the Den/Car/Chi picks.

I'm not sure GMs would really want to move up that much to grab him when they can get a Guy like Sam Baker a round and a half later who might be just as good.

IMO, I agree that Williams is the #3. It seemed to me that the people that liked Otah better than Williams were a little higher on him than the people that preferred Williams so that is why I intended to state that Otah was the next most highly valued OT. Of course this is all speculation at this point.Back to my point. I agree with every thing that you have said from a historical point. However IMO, true quality at OT is undervalued in the draft and I really see Clady as a guy that can be special for a number of years. If I were Chicago I would attempt to move up to get him if KC passes. Of course, if I were KC he would be off the board immediately at #5. Seriously, what other player could help KC more that a top quality OT.

So, if KC passes I predict that Clady will be the Round #1 draft steal of 2008.

Clady is very underrated in this forum......I would not be surprised if he is a much better pro than Long.......This guy is actually an NFL LT, and I've been saying for months now that Long is not......Long's short arms and not so nimble feet sound very familiar to me......hmmmmm........Robert Gallery!.....IIRC, his draft grade and scouting report were very similar to Long's, as well as the aforementioned red flags (arm length and footwork).......

NFL is much different than college in the trenches......Clady is prototypical for LT (light & quick feet, arm length, athleticism), and with the right development should become an elite LT

 

[Chase Stuart]

Obviously Long is the #1 prospect and Clady the clear cut #2. Williams is on the rise while Otah is dropping. Nicks and Gosder are right in the mix as well. I guess I don't see the drop off to be as severe as you. If Jake Long was in the 07 draft, he might have been the 3rd Tackle off the board.

Personally I would not be shocked to see KC take Clady with the 5th pick. I know the BEARS are very high on this kid and will probably sit back on draft day and wait to see if falls to 14.

I think the 5/6 range is too high. A team targeting Clady should be looking to move into the 10th (N.O.) or 11th (Buf) picks. No way Clady makes it through the Den/Car/Chi picks.

I'm not sure GMs would really want to move up that much to grab him when they can get a Guy like Sam Baker a round and a half later who might be just as good.

IMO, I agree that Williams is the #3. It seemed to me that the people that liked Otah better than Williams were a little higher on him than the people that preferred Williams so that is why I intended to state that Otah was the next most highly valued OT. Of course this is all speculation at this point.Back to my point. I agree with every thing that you have said from a historical point. However IMO, true quality at OT is undervalued in the draft and I really see Clady as a guy that can be special for a number of years. If I were Chicago I would attempt to move up to get him if KC passes. Of course, if I were KC he would be off the board immediately at #5. Seriously, what other player could help KC more that a top quality OT.

So, if KC passes I predict that Clady will be the Round #1 draft steal of 2008.

Clady is very underrated in this forum......I would not be surprised if he is a much better pro than Long.......This guy is actually an NFL LT, and I've been saying for months now that Long is not......Long's short arms and not so nimble feet sound very familiar to me......hmmmmm........Robert Gallery!.....IIRC, his draft grade and scouting report were very similar to Long's, as well as the aforementioned red flags (arm length and footwork).......

NFL is much different than college in the trenches......Clady is prototypical for LT (light & quick feet, arm length, athleticism), and with the right development should become an elite LT

Long's arm length is one of his strengths. It was measured at around 36", much longer than Gallery's.

 

[kremenull]

Obviously Long is the #1 prospect and Clady the clear cut #2. Williams is on the rise while Otah is dropping. Nicks and Gosder are right in the mix as well. I guess I don't see the drop off to be as severe as you. If Jake Long was in the 07 draft, he might have been the 3rd Tackle off the board.

Personally I would not be shocked to see KC take Clady with the 5th pick. I know the BEARS are very high on this kid and will probably sit back on draft day and wait to see if falls to 14.

I think the 5/6 range is too high. A team targeting Clady should be looking to move into the 10th (N.O.) or 11th (Buf) picks. No way Clady makes it through the Den/Car/Chi picks.

I'm not sure GMs would really want to move up that much to grab him when they can get a Guy like Sam Baker a round and a half later who might be just as good.

IMO, I agree that Williams is the #3. It seemed to me that the people that liked Otah better than Williams were a little higher on him than the people that preferred Williams so that is why I intended to state that Otah was the next most highly valued OT. Of course this is all speculation at this point.Back to my point. I agree with every thing that you have said from a historical point. However IMO, true quality at OT is undervalued in the draft and I really see Clady as a guy that can be special for a number of years. If I were Chicago I would attempt to move up to get him if KC passes. Of course, if I were KC he would be off the board immediately at #5. Seriously, what other player could help KC more that a top quality OT.

So, if KC passes I predict that Clady will be the Round #1 draft steal of 2008.

Clady is very underrated in this forum......I would not be surprised if he is a much better pro than Long.......This guy is actually an NFL LT, and I've been saying for months now that Long is not......Long's short arms and not so nimble feet sound very familiar to me......hmmmmm........Robert Gallery!.....IIRC, his draft grade and scouting report were very similar to Long's, as well as the aforementioned red flags (arm length and footwork).......

NFL is much different than college in the trenches......Clady is prototypical for LT (light & quick feet, arm length, athleticism), and with the right development should become an elite LT

Long's arm length is one of his strengths. It was measured at around 36", much longer than Gallery's.

Then if this is accurate, then that is fine......I heard reports of less than 33".......uggghhhhhhSo there may be some misinformation out there.....But even if that is true, I believe he still projects to RT (feet not as nimble, and I've seen this on film)........and there are GM rumblings who've reportedly stated the same........Kirwin (Sirius Radio)

 

[FFMaster]

This all comes down to need and availability.