Ryan Grant (1 Viewer)

[Banger]

Bottom line: Since Ryan Grant took over the starting gig he's been putting up big time numbers. Fantasy Football is all about numbers. It make no difference to me that Ryan Grant may not have had a huge career in college, nor does it matter where he was drafted. He's putting up big numbers and I believe he'll continue to do so.1st 10 Starts of career:215 carries for 1157 yards (5.3 YPC) 11 TDs. What is not to like? I'll take that production anyday of the week.My $0.02

I agree that Grant has a great chance at success, but it is all too common for a young RB to start out like that and then fade away for some reason. I'm stuck with Kevin Jones after becoming a believer in 2004. In the last 8 games of 2004:172 carries for 906 yards (5.3 YPC) 4 TDs. While not as stellar as what Grant did this year, it makes me stop and think.Jones hasn't even cracked 700 yds/season for the last 3 years, mainly due to injury, but still...

Yes it happens but it's often due to injury or a change of circumstances on team (i.e. coaching changes/FA departures/etc.). In Jones's case, unfortunately he was injured and when healthy he had an insane OC. One of the things that I really like in the Grant situation is the stability of all his surroundings in the short term. The Packers will probably have the least transition of any team in the NFL next year. I don't believe that any of their starters are UFA's and they likely won't participate in free agency to any degree. So the line, defense, coaching staff, etc. should all return next year which is huge and should not be overlooked.

 

[cstu]

Bottom line: Since Ryan Grant took over the starting gig he's been putting up big time numbers. Fantasy Football is all about numbers. It make no difference to me that Ryan Grant may not have had a huge career in college, nor does it matter where he was drafted. He's putting up big numbers and I believe he'll continue to do so.1st 10 Starts of career:215 carries for 1157 yards (5.3 YPC) 11 TDs. What is not to like? I'll take that production anyday of the week.My $0.02

I agree that Grant has a great chance at success, but it is all too common for a young RB to start out like that and then fade away for some reason. I'm stuck with Kevin Jones after becoming a believer in 2004. In the last 8 games of 2004:172 carries for 906 yards (5.3 YPC) 4 TDs. While not as stellar as what Grant did this year, it makes me stop and think.Jones hasn't even cracked 700 yds/season for the last 3 years, mainly due to injury, but still...

Yes it happens but it's often due to injury or a change of circumstances on team (i.e. coaching changes/FA departures/etc.). In Jones's case, unfortunately he was injured and when healthy he had an insane OC. One of the things that I really like in the Grant situation is the stability of all his surroundings in the short term. The Packers will probably have the least transition of any team in the NFL next year. I don't believe that any of their starters are UFA's and they likely won't participate in free agency to any degree. So the line, defense, coaching staff, etc. should all return next year which is huge and should not be overlooked.

He didn't look good in the NFCC and I'm concerned about what will happen if Favre retires. I think now is the best time to trade him in a dynasty.

 

[chook]

He didn't look good in the AFCC and I'm concerned about what will happen if Favre retires. I think now is the best time to trade him in a dynasty.

I know, it was like he wasn't even playing

 

[cstu]

He didn't look good in the AFCC and I'm concerned about what will happen if Favre retires. I think now is the best time to trade him in a dynasty.

I know, it was like he wasn't even playing

Think that's a Freudian slip after the Chargers tease today?

 

[cstu]

Bottom line: Since Ryan Grant took over the starting gig he's been putting up big time numbers. Fantasy Football is all about numbers. It make no difference to me that Ryan Grant may not have had a huge career in college, nor does it matter where he was drafted. He's putting up big numbers and I believe he'll continue to do so.1st 10 Starts of career:215 carries for 1157 yards (5.3 YPC) 11 TDs. What is not to like? I'll take that production anyday of the week.My $0.02

I agree that Grant has a great chance at success, but it is all too common for a young RB to start out like that and then fade away for some reason. I'm stuck with Kevin Jones after becoming a believer in 2004. In the last 8 games of 2004:172 carries for 906 yards (5.3 YPC) 4 TDs. While not as stellar as what Grant did this year, it makes me stop and think.Jones hasn't even cracked 700 yds/season for the last 3 years, mainly due to injury, but still...

Yes it happens but it's often due to injury or a change of circumstances on team (i.e. coaching changes/FA departures/etc.). In Jones's case, unfortunately he was injured and when healthy he had an insane OC. One of the things that I really like in the Grant situation is the stability of all his surroundings in the short term. The Packers will probably have the least transition of any team in the NFL next year. I don't believe that any of their starters are UFA's and they likely won't participate in free agency to any degree. So the line, defense, coaching staff, etc. should all return next year which is huge and should not be overlooked.

He didn't look good in the NFCC and I'm concerned about what will happen if Favre retires. I think now is the best time to trade him in a dynasty.

You were warned.

 

[massraider]

Grant will do offseason workouts but won't sign minimum tender

By Pete Dougherty

Ryan Grant will work with the Green Bay Packers in the offseason without a contract, but to get him to training camp the Packers will have to sign him to a contract well above the NFL minimum for a second-year pro.

Grant, who rose from the bottom of the Packers’ depth chart to become one of the NFL’s most productive runners in the second half of last season, has not signed a contract but nevertheless is taking part in the team’s offseason workout program, which started Monday.

His agent, Alan Herman, said Grant will take part in all the team’s minicamps and workouts this spring, but that he will not sign the $370,000 minimum tender for an exclusive-rights player who has only one accrued season in the NFL. Grant is looking for a longer, far more lucrative deal after he rushed for 956 yards and averaged 5.1 yards a carry despite being the team’s primary halfback for only the final nine games of the season.

Herman said he’s talked to Packers officials about a contract, but that they haven’t begun negotiating.

Rest of the article: http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...1/80319162/1989

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I agree that Grant has a great chance at success, but it is all too common for a young RB to start out like that and then fade away for some reason. I'm stuck with Kevin Jones after becoming a believer in 2004. In the last 8 games of 2004:172 carries for 906 yards (5.3 YPC) 4 TDs. While not as stellar as what Grant did this year, it makes me stop and think.Jones hasn't even cracked 700 yds/season for the last 3 years, mainly due to injury, but still...

I've seen Kevin Jones play.Kevin Jones is no Ryan Grant.

 

[BigJim®]

Grant will do offseason workouts but won't sign minimum tender

By Pete Dougherty

Ryan Grant will work with the Green Bay Packers in the offseason without a contract, but to get him to training camp the Packers will have to sign him to a contract well above the NFL minimum for a second-year pro.

Grant, who rose from the bottom of the Packers’ depth chart to become one of the NFL’s most productive runners in the second half of last season, has not signed a contract but nevertheless is taking part in the team’s offseason workout program, which started Monday.

His agent, Alan Herman, said Grant will take part in all the team’s minicamps and workouts this spring, but that he will not sign the $370,000 minimum tender for an exclusive-rights player who has only one accrued season in the NFL. Grant is looking for a longer, far more lucrative deal after he rushed for 956 yards and averaged 5.1 yards a carry despite being the team’s primary halfback for only the final nine games of the season.

Herman said he’s talked to Packers officials about a contract, but that they haven’t begun negotiating.

Rest of the article: http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...1/80319162/1989

I don't like this move by Grant.

 

[Sabertooth]

Bottom line: Since Ryan Grant took over the starting gig he's been putting up big time numbers. Fantasy Football is all about numbers. It make no difference to me that Ryan Grant may not have had a huge career in college, nor does it matter where he was drafted. He's putting up big numbers and I believe he'll continue to do so.1st 10 Starts of career:215 carries for 1157 yards (5.3 YPC) 11 TDs. What is not to like? I'll take that production anyday of the week.My $0.02

I agree that Grant has a great chance at success, but it is all too common for a young RB to start out like that and then fade away for some reason. I'm stuck with Kevin Jones after becoming a believer in 2004. In the last 8 games of 2004:172 carries for 906 yards (5.3 YPC) 4 TDs. While not as stellar as what Grant did this year, it makes me stop and think.Jones hasn't even cracked 700 yds/season for the last 3 years, mainly due to injury, but still...

Yes it happens but it's often due to injury or a change of circumstances on team (i.e. coaching changes/FA departures/etc.). In Jones's case, unfortunately he was injured and when healthy he had an insane OC. One of the things that I really like in the Grant situation is the stability of all his surroundings in the short term. The Packers will probably have the least transition of any team in the NFL next year. I don't believe that any of their starters are UFA's and they likely won't participate in free agency to any degree. So the line, defense, coaching staff, etc. should all return next year which is huge and should not be overlooked.

He didn't look good in the NFCC and I'm concerned about what will happen if Favre retires. I think now is the best time to trade him in a dynasty.

You were warned.

Okay. Thanks. But how has anything changed? He looked bad in one game where they didn't really use him much? Hasn't even practiced since then? I think you were wrong then and wrong now.

 

[Warhogs]

I like this approach by Grant and his agent. Clearly stating they wish to get a new contract but willing to put in the off season work and keep a good relationship. I would be shocked if Grant is not rewarded with a nice contract now that the Favre retirement has freed up a lot of cap space.

 

[Yitbos69]

It would seem that if the Pack thought Grant was THE guy they would offer him more than the $370,000 minimum tender......

 

[mozzy84]

Bottom line: Since Ryan Grant took over the starting gig he's been putting up big time numbers. Fantasy Football is all about numbers. It make no difference to me that Ryan Grant may not have had a huge career in college, nor does it matter where he was drafted. He's putting up big numbers and I believe he'll continue to do so.1st 10 Starts of career:215 carries for 1157 yards (5.3 YPC) 11 TDs. What is not to like? I'll take that production anyday of the week.My $0.02

I agree that Grant has a great chance at success, but it is all too common for a young RB to start out like that and then fade away for some reason. I'm stuck with Kevin Jones after becoming a believer in 2004. In the last 8 games of 2004:172 carries for 906 yards (5.3 YPC) 4 TDs. While not as stellar as what Grant did this year, it makes me stop and think.Jones hasn't even cracked 700 yds/season for the last 3 years, mainly due to injury, but still...

Yes it happens but it's often due to injury or a change of circumstances on team (i.e. coaching changes/FA departures/etc.). In Jones's case, unfortunately he was injured and when healthy he had an insane OC. One of the things that I really like in the Grant situation is the stability of all his surroundings in the short term. The Packers will probably have the least transition of any team in the NFL next year. I don't believe that any of their starters are UFA's and they likely won't participate in free agency to any degree. So the line, defense, coaching staff, etc. should all return next year which is huge and should not be overlooked.

He didn't look good in the NFCC and I'm concerned about what will happen if Favre retires. I think now is the best time to trade him in a dynasty.

You were warned.

Okay. Thanks. But how has anything changed? He looked bad in one game where they didn't really use him much? Hasn't even practiced since then? I think you were wrong then and wrong now.

I would say his value took a hit when farve retired, even if its a short term hit.Hopefully they give him his contract, that would be a bonus to us owners knowing hes locked up there for awile.

 

[Warhogs]

It would seem that if the Pack thought Grant was THE guy they would offer him more than the $370,000 minimum tender......

I am under the impression this is not an offer but what his current contract is. I don't think Green Bay has rushed to give him a new contract at this point but they probably will before the season opens. It seems like many teams wait until after free agency and after the draft before they do much with existing contracts.Smart move by Grant who is only a half year starter to participate while asking for a new contract. This should allow him to keep a good relationship while trying to get a new deal from a team with a lot of cap space.

 

[Tecmo]

I think Green Bay has an under rated line. They've been drafting these young guys and they're starting to come together. The zone-blocking is racking up the running yards, Favre wasn't throwing the INTs, they were giving him time to throw too. I would go as far to say GB is the new Denver and there's fantasy gold on this team even with Aaron Rogers who I don't consider a rookie with his prepartion he's gotten.

First off, It's Grant's job, he's earned it

But way too many people are writing off Brandon Jackson, one injury could flip this thing real fast. This kid shows a nice burst through the hole and I think he's talented enough to steal carries. I think everyone is writing him off because of the mediocre stats to start the season. A closer look reveals some stiff competition against the run by the likes of PIT, SEA, JAX, PHI, NYG, SD. The guy faced some good squads and was in a committee to boot. His his one butter game turned out nice. w17 vs DET, 20 carries for 113 yds. A definite handcuff for Grant owners if you're smart. A possible late round steal for the sharks

 

[Donnybrook]

Grant will do offseason workouts but won't sign minimum tender

By Pete Dougherty

Ryan Grant will work with the Green Bay Packers in the offseason without a contract, but to get him to training camp the Packers will have to sign him to a contract well above the NFL minimum for a second-year pro.

Grant, who rose from the bottom of the Packers’ depth chart to become one of the NFL’s most productive runners in the second half of last season, has not signed a contract but nevertheless is taking part in the team’s offseason workout program, which started Monday.

His agent, Alan Herman, said Grant will take part in all the team’s minicamps and workouts this spring, but that he will not sign the $370,000 minimum tender for an exclusive-rights player who has only one accrued season in the NFL. Grant is looking for a longer, far more lucrative deal after he rushed for 956 yards and averaged 5.1 yards a carry despite being the team’s primary halfback for only the final nine games of the season.

Herman said he’s talked to Packers officials about a contract, but that they haven’t begun negotiating.

Rest of the article: http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...1/80319162/1989

I believe the last player to hold-out while being an exclusive rights free agent was Antonio Gates. He eventually got what he wanted but then again Gates was the top TE in the league at the time. Grant has very little negotiating power as ERFA.

Exclusive-Rights Free Agents (ERFA)

An Exclusive-Rights Free Agent is an NFL player who is not under contract, but has only two years of NFL experience. If his former club makes him an offer at the three year veteran minimum salary, then that's it, he has to take it or leave the NFL. These guys have no right to negotiate with other teams. They are "free" only in the sense that they're free to quit.

http://football.calsci.com/FreeAgency.html

 

[massraider]

I agree that Grant has little power, but his situation is better than most drafted players. He isn't locked into a long term deal, so he'll get paid faster than most (assuming he continues to play well).

Grant and his agent are just doing the smart thing, asking for more money. I think it's likely he'll play for the tender, but why make it easy on them? Try and get a long term deal.

From the Pack's perspective, they don't have to pay him any more than the tender. But if they think he is the guy, now is the time to sign him. His price tag will only go up. Question is, do they think he's their guy?

 

[Ron_Mexico]

First off, It's Grant's job, he's earned itBut way too many people are writing off Brandon Jackson, one injury could flip this thing real fast. This kid shows a nice burst through the hole and I think he's talented enough to steal carries. I think everyone is writing him off because of the mediocre stats to start the season. A closer look reveals some stiff competition against the run by the likes of PIT, SEA, JAX, PHI, NYG, SD. The guy faced some good squads and was in a committee to boot. His his one butter game turned out nice. w17 vs DET, 20 carries for 113 yds. A definite handcuff for Grant owners if you're smart. A possible late round steal for the sharks

BJax, burst ?Have you been watching the same BJax as me ?He looked horrible, lacking the vision and burst to be a legitimate NFL RB, imo.

 

[supermark_28]

I think Green Bay has an under rated line. They've been drafting these young guys and they're starting to come together. The zone-blocking is racking up the running yards, Favre wasn't throwing the INTs, they were giving him time to throw too. I would go as far to say GB is the new Denver and there's fantasy gold on this team even with Aaron Rogers who I don't consider a rookie with his prepartion he's gotten.

First off, It's Grant's job, he's earned it

But way too many people are writing off Brandon Jackson, one injury could flip this thing real fast. This kid shows a nice burst through the hole and I think he's talented enough to steal carries. I think everyone is writing him off because of the mediocre stats to start the season. A closer look reveals some stiff competition against the run by the likes of PIT, SEA, JAX, PHI, NYG, SD. The guy faced some good squads and was in a committee to boot. His his one butter game turned out nice. w17 vs DET, 20 carries for 113 yds. A definite handcuff for Grant owners if you're smart. A possible late round steal for the sharks

I was trying to find the article but sometime back PFT had a quote from McCarthy in regards to '08 being the lastyear for the zone blocking scheme and in the future they would move towards a power run scheme. Does anyone

think that changes Grant's value going into '09?

 

[BigJim®]

Exclusive-Rights Free Agents (ERFA) An Exclusive-Rights Free Agent is an NFL player who is not under contract, but has only two years of NFL experience. If his former club makes him an offer at the three year veteran minimum salary, then that's it, he has to take it or leave the NFL. These guys have no right to negotiate with other teams. They are "free" only in the sense that they're free to quit.

So his options here are sign or retire? I'd be curious what happens if a player who does not sign wrecks his knee in offseason work. Maybe I'm missing something, but all I see here is downside. You sign the paperwork and keep negotiating, publically or privately.

 

[Tecmo]

First off, It's Grant's job, he's earned itBut way too many people are writing off Brandon Jackson, one injury could flip this thing real fast. This kid shows a nice burst through the hole and I think he's talented enough to steal carries. I think everyone is writing him off because of the mediocre stats to start the season. A closer look reveals some stiff competition against the run by the likes of PIT, SEA, JAX, PHI, NYG, SD. The guy faced some good squads and was in a committee to boot. His his one butter game turned out nice. w17 vs DET, 20 carries for 113 yds. A definite handcuff for Grant owners if you're smart. A possible late round steal for the sharks

BJax, burst ?Have you been watching the same BJax as me ?He looked horrible, lacking the vision and burst to be a legitimate NFL RB, imo.

yeah, he has a quick burst through the hole. Not fast like gamebreaker, but I saw the ability to hit a hole. Don't get to see it much with his lackluster vision though. He needs to see the cutback lanes, he just needs more reps to get the game to slow down some more. Do you feel that Ryan Grant = product of the system?

 

[Ron_Mexico]

First off, It's Grant's job, he's earned itBut way too many people are writing off Brandon Jackson, one injury could flip this thing real fast. This kid shows a nice burst through the hole and I think he's talented enough to steal carries. I think everyone is writing him off because of the mediocre stats to start the season. A closer look reveals some stiff competition against the run by the likes of PIT, SEA, JAX, PHI, NYG, SD. The guy faced some good squads and was in a committee to boot. His his one butter game turned out nice. w17 vs DET, 20 carries for 113 yds. A definite handcuff for Grant owners if you're smart. A possible late round steal for the sharks

BJax, burst ?Have you been watching the same BJax as me ?He looked horrible, lacking the vision and burst to be a legitimate NFL RB, imo.

yeah, he has a quick burst through the hole. Not fast like gamebreaker, but I saw the ability to hit a hole. Don't get to see it much with his lackluster vision though. He needs to see the cutback lanes, he just needs more reps to get the game to slow down some more. Do you feel that Ryan Grant = product of the system?

Partly, yes.I do think he is an excellent downhill runner,I honestly love the kid, and have been trying to buy him when I can. Having said that, I do think his value takes aslight hit with Favre out of the picture. I see defenses stacking the boxa bit more against Rodgers in 2008. No slight against Grant's talent,but the sledding may be a bit more difficult for any GB RB this season.Should be interesting.

 

[twitch]

First off, It's Grant's job, he's earned itBut way too many people are writing off Brandon Jackson, one injury could flip this thing real fast. This kid shows a nice burst through the hole and I think he's talented enough to steal carries. I think everyone is writing him off because of the mediocre stats to start the season. A closer look reveals some stiff competition against the run by the likes of PIT, SEA, JAX, PHI, NYG, SD. The guy faced some good squads and was in a committee to boot. His his one butter game turned out nice. w17 vs DET, 20 carries for 113 yds. A definite handcuff for Grant owners if you're smart. A possible late round steal for the sharks

BJax, burst ?Have you been watching the same BJax as me ?He looked horrible, lacking the vision and burst to be a legitimate NFL RB, imo.

yeah, he has a quick burst through the hole. Not fast like gamebreaker, but I saw the ability to hit a hole. Don't get to see it much with his lackluster vision though. He needs to see the cutback lanes, he just needs more reps to get the game to slow down some more. Do you feel that Ryan Grant = product of the system?

Partly, yes.I do think he is an excellent downhill runner,I honestly love the kid, and have been trying to buy him when I can. Having said that, I do think his value takes aslight hit with Favre out of the picture. I see defenses stacking the boxa bit more against Rodgers in 2008. No slight against Grant's talent,but the sledding may be a bit more difficult for any GB RB this season.Should be interesting.

I think Grant's gonna be good to go with Rodgers in there. He's coming into his 4th year. Guys that are worth a salt generally get it by their 4th season, and I actually think Rodgers is gonna get the job done. He wont be as flashy obviously. But teams that think theyre gonna stack the box against the balanced weapons Green Bay's gonna throw out there again will be makin' a mistake. Those guys go over the middle as well as any crew of receivers in the game. The line is solid, and in fact will probably only continue to get better. Im of the thinking that Grant's #s may be better without Favre because he'll probably have his # called slightly more. But if Rodgers is anything like Romo or Eli or Hasselebeck or a slew of other pretty decent QBs, then he's gonna keep the train rollin' in Green Bay. And from the little Ive actually heard from him, I love the guy's confidence, his demeanor and his attitude. He's got the mental approach together. And at QB, that's well over half the battle.