Ryan Grant (1 Viewer)

[RalphMouth]

what's wrong with 1200 rushing yds, double digit TDs and 150-200 catching yds ?

plays on one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL.... sure seems like a safe pick who

will get you consistent points on a weekly basis- the goalline carries will be there ...

why is he being drafted AFTER Mendenhall, Greene & Matthews ?

 

[Ghost Rider]

why is he being drafted AFTER Mendenhall, Greene & Matthews ?

Probably because those guys probably are projected to have higher ceilings, but Matthews is the only one I would consider taking before Grant. Greene is getting a high ranking because of the assumption that he can be the featured guy behind a line that produced the best running game in the league last year, and Pittsburgh is historically a great running team. Still, I have Grant higher than those two. Grant is solid; barring injury, you know what you are going to get from him, which is boring to some people.

 

[Garts]

why is he being drafted AFTER Mendenhall, Greene & Matthews ?

Probably because those guys probably are projected to have higher ceilings, but Matthews is the only one I would consider taking before Grant. Greene is getting a high ranking because of the assumption that he can be the featured guy behind a line that produced the best running game in the league last year, and Pittsburgh is historically a great running team. Still, I have Grant higher than those two. Grant is solid; barring injury, you know what you are going to get from him, which is boring to some people.

When Rudi Johnson was playing well in Cinci it was the same thing...boring but so reliable.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

why is he being drafted AFTER Mendenhall, Greene & Matthews ?

Probably because those guys probably are projected to have higher ceilings, but Matthews is the only one I would consider taking before Grant. Greene is getting a high ranking because of the assumption that he can be the featured guy behind a line that produced the best running game in the league last year, and Pittsburgh is historically a great running team. Still, I have Grant higher than those two. Grant is solid; barring injury, you know what you are going to get from him, which is boring to some people.

I agree with this. I would think about taking Matthews before Grant, but would easily take Grant over Greene or Mendenhall. Greene owners are going to be disappointed this year with how much LT siphons off IMO. I don't think he's as far gone as Greene fans would have you believe.

 

[njherdfan]

As a couple other posters said, I think alot of FF players enjoy drafting players they see as having upside, who could conceivably win their league for them. Grant certainly isn't that, but I would take him above the three other backs mentioned because I can't see him getting below 1,000 and 9.

 

[unckeyherb]

why is he being drafted AFTER Mendenhall, Greene & Matthews ?

Probably because those guys probably are projected to have higher ceilings, but Matthews is the only one I would consider taking before Grant. Greene is getting a high ranking because of the assumption that he can be the featured guy behind a line that produced the best running game in the league last year, and Pittsburgh is historically a great running team. Still, I have Grant higher than those two. Grant is solid; barring injury, you know what you are going to get from him, which is boring to some people.

I agree with this. I would think about taking Matthews before Grant, but would easily take Grant over Greene or Mendenhall. Greene owners are going to be disappointed this year with how much LT siphons off IMO. I don't think he's as far gone as Greene fans would have you believe.

yeah, I think its a lot like Rudi was, as noted above. consistent but not flashy production. Mendy I'd probably take over him, but it would be close..That said, I wouldn't take Greene over him and I cannot believe how high mathews is being taken.

 

[the spanker]

In a PPR league what is good value for Grant? Early third round? Where would you try to snag him considering where Green, Matthews, and Mendy are going?

 

[Ghost Rider]

Greene owners are going to be disappointed this year with how much LT siphons off IMO. I don't think he's as far gone as Greene fans would have you believe.

I think he is. But the Jets didn't sign him to just sit on the bench. He will probably be their short yardage and goal line guy, at the very least. On the flip side, Greene is an unproven commodity. Two good games in the playoffs last year and then an injury in the third, and all of a sudden, everyone thinks he can be a stud for 16 games? Not buying it. I am not saying he can't be that good; I am saying he didn't show enough last year to demonstrate that he should go as high as some are taking him.

I cannot believe how high mathews is being taken.

Taking a rookie that high is always a huge risk, but given how prolific the Chargers offense is, it is easy to presume that just about any decent RB could step in there and put up, at worst, good numbers, or, at best, magnificent numbers. I mean, if a broken down and washed up LT2 could score double digit TDs for them last year, what can a fresh young rookie with a world of potential do?

 

[MAC_32]

He's severely under rated, when healthy (second half 07, all of 09) he produces RB1 numbers, but he's knocked down for his underwhelming performance when he played hurt all/most of 08. There's no reason to expect any sort of regression - his offense is still great, he's healthy, he doesn't have anyone to steal carries, and his o line can't be any worse. I'll happily wait for him in the 3rd/4th rather than take a Matthews, Mendenhall, or Charles a round or two earlier.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

FWIW, for those writing off Tomlinson, he is the star of training camp. Playing time is still a big unknown, though. I would still take Grant before Greene.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

People are too focused on him not being an elite talent.

The dude prodcues just fine and is a great RB to snag if you go WR/QB or something like that in round3

 

[Ghost Rider]

FWIW, for those writing off Tomlinson, he is the star of training camp.

According to whom? I can't remember any RB EVER who ever lost his burst and speed this late in his career and then all of a sudden got it back. Sure, he might be able to have a better YPC behind the Jets line than he did last year in SD, but he is a shell of his former self. That is not to say that he can't still put up some decent yards and possibly even double digit short yardage scores, though.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

FWIW, for those writing off Tomlinson, he is the star of training camp.

According to whom?

Lots of people at camp - beat reporters, fans, etc. Big topic over the weekend. Heard a radio discussion on how much was real vs beating exceptionally low expectations (like yours ).

 

[Ghost Rider]

FWIW, for those writing off Tomlinson, he is the star of training camp.

According to whom?

Lots of people at camp - beat reporters, fans, etc. Big topic over the weekend. Heard a radio discussion on how much was real vs beating exceptionally low expectations (like yours ).

I guess time will tell, but playing well in games is a lot different than looking good in training camp. Given the wear and tear on his body, thanks to the years and amount of touches, the odds of him staying healthy all season and suddenly reverting back to being very good to great are very slim, but we shall see. No one can beat Father Time...not even an all-time great like LT2.

 

[Clifford]

why is he being drafted AFTER Mendenhall, Greene & Matthews ?

Probably because those guys probably are projected to have higher ceilings, but Matthews is the only one I would consider taking before Grant. Greene is getting a high ranking because of the assumption that he can be the featured guy behind a line that produced the best running game in the league last year, and Pittsburgh is historically a great running team. Still, I have Grant higher than those two. Grant is solid; barring injury, you know what you are going to get from him, which is boring to some people.

When Rudi Johnson was playing well in Cinci it was the same thing...boring but so reliable.

Rudi typically had a high round 1 ADP, usually around 7-8 overall. But it is the same story, boring, consistent production. FWIW I would take Grant ahead of Mathews and Greene, but after Mendenhall.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

I guess time will tell, but playing well in games is a lot different than looking good in training camp.

No argument there. And I'm sure some of it IS beating very low expectations. Will be interesting to see.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

I like him but not at the mid round two pick he keeps getting drafted at.

 

[Sweet Love]

Here is what I personally see/feel about Grant

Pros:

+ One of only four RBs to have 1200 yards rushing back-to-back years in 08-09

+ No one "knocking on his door"

+ Gets some opportunities at the goalline (although, only 3 teams ran the ball less (percentage wise) inside the 10 than the Packers in 09)

+ Has played in 44 straight games

Cons:

+ Has only 43 receptions the past two years and in PPR, that is tough to swallow

+ While he had total 11 TDs last year, he only had 5 total the year prior...no way you can crown him a "double-digit TD" guy yet (in fact, he has less than 1/2 of the team's total rushing TDs in the past two years

While I only show two cons, they seem to weigh (in my mind) about equal as he pros...bottom line, if I can grab him in round 3 of my 12 teamers, I like it...if I have to jump into the 2nd round to get him, I will most likely pass.

 

[Original]

Picked Grant up in round 4 of a new dynasty and well pleased to get him there.

 

[fightingillini]

First thing, Grant is an undisputed starter and featured back. Not too many of those in the NFL these days. Grant should carry the ball 280-300 times and get 25-30 receptions, defenses can't key on him with all the passing weapons and Aaron Rodgers. Should be a lock for 1150-1300 yds rushing and about 175-200 receiving. The only issue with Grant is that Rodgers will steal some rushing TDs from him.....but Grant should get you 10 or so TDs....there will be plenty of opportunities to score in GB this year. And echoeing Sweet Love's thought.....the guy is durable.

Sure, he's doesn't have top 5 RB upside since he doesn't catch enough passes and likely won't score enough TDs. But he's a guy that you can rely on as a solid starter so that you can roll the dice later with high upside RB3s and RB4s. Has a high floor.

He's a great RB2 and a nice consolation prize to those with an early draft pick and miss out on the top QBs and WRs in round 2. I have no problems pairing him up with CJ or ADP or MJD at the end of round 2 or beginning of round 3.....if available there. A CJ-Grant backfield would easily be the best in the league.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

FWIW, for those writing off Tomlinson, he is the star of training camp.

According to whom? I can't remember any RB EVER who ever lost his burst and speed this late in his career and then all of a sudden got it back. Sure, he might be able to have a better YPC behind the Jets line than he did last year in SD, but he is a shell of his former self. That is not to say that he can't still put up some decent yards and possibly even double digit short yardage scores, though.

He scored on a 70 yard reception in a intrasquad scrimmage, but otherwise the reviews have been mixed. Ryan has talked him up of course, because that's what he does, but some local reporters have said he looks slow, some of said he looks like he got his burst back. The preseason will be interesting as he has said he wants to get workin those games unlike in the past in SD.

 

[mozzy84]

Picked Grant up in round 4 of a new dynasty and well pleased to get him there.

seems early for me, he'll be getting replaced next year imo (if not this year). Just think if Green Bay actually had a game changing running back? He just happens to get all the carries and plays on a good offense which makes him very valuable in FF.