Saints Sign Pierre Thomas to 4-Year Deal (1 Viewer)

[guderian]

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[cvnpoka]

and an unyielding shark pool position is once again proven wrong.

 

[guderian]

"Sources" say it's for $12 million.

 

[todisco1]

Wow, Chris Ivory's value just bottomed out.

 

[shadyridr]

Wow, Chris Ivory's value just bottomed out.

This is gonna be a RBBC like usual. If PT didnt resign it wouldve been somebody else. All Saints RBs are worthless

 

[guderian]

Thomas has averaged 71 yards and 0.6 TDs/game over the past 3 seasons. That's hardly worthless these days. Plus you have to wonder if they'll keep Reggie even more now.

 

[todisco1]

Wow, Chris Ivory's value just bottomed out.

This is gonna be a RBBC like usual. If PT didnt resign it wouldve been somebody else. All Saints RBs are worthless

Saints RBs weren't worthless before, why would they be now? Just because it's a RBBC doesn't mean they don't have value. I think you're mistaken.

 

[shadyridr]

Wow, Chris Ivory's value just bottomed out.

This is gonna be a RBBC like usual. If PT didnt resign it wouldve been somebody else. All Saints RBs are worthless

Saints RBs weren't worthless before, why would they be now? Just because it's a RBBC doesn't mean they don't have value. I think you're mistaken.

Good luck with him then. Im not touching this guy (or any Saint RB) with a 10 foot pole.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Wow, Chris Ivory's value just bottomed out.

This is gonna be a RBBC like usual. If PT didnt resign it wouldve been somebody else. All Saints RBs are worthless

And you have no idea what you're talking about. But congratulations on mking an ### of yourself.

 

[Grimace59]

For Dynasty purposes, we don't have to worry about Ingram or Leshoure being drafted by the Saints.

 

[Addai's Adidas]

Dumm.

 

[shadyridr]

Wow, Chris Ivory's value just bottomed out.

This is gonna be a RBBC like usual. If PT didnt resign it wouldve been somebody else. All Saints RBs are worthless

And you have no idea what you're talking about. But congratulations on mking an ### of yourself.

:(

 

[dickey moe]

Wow, Chris Ivory's value just bottomed out.

This is gonna be a RBBC like usual. If PT didnt resign it wouldve been somebody else. All Saints RBs are worthless

And you have no idea what you're talking about. But congratulations on mking an ### of yourself.

You sound like a bitter Thomas/Ivory/and/or Bush owner.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Ok........in 2009 he was RB20 while missing roughly 3 games. In 2008 he was RB18 while missing 1 game. Yeah, that's pretty worthless. Got any other good insight there, Einstein.

 

[SproutDaddy]

[quote name='dickey moe' timestamp='1299209794' post='129628

You sound like a bitter Thomas/Ivory/and/or Bush owner.

How do I sound bitter exactly? Because I know what I'm talking about?

 

[saintfool]

Great news for Pierre. He's a terrific fit for the offense because of his versatility. The Saints were fighting with one hand tied behind their back for much of the year with his injury. Ivory may take the other RB role that Mike Bell occupied given his hard physical running style. Ivory's inability to catch hurts him in the Saints offense. It would be a solid 1-2 punch, I think. Reggie might be the odd man out here.

 

[moderated]

tiny contract. backup money, although he could still get 200 or so touches and be useful as a desperation plug in.

 

[Unwrittenlaw]

What a cluster^@#% if Bush returns to NO

Bush/Ivory/PT

 

[saintfool]

tiny contract. backup money, although he could still get 200 or so touches and be useful as a desperation plug in.

small contract but his injury probably hurt his open market value. the saints are not a running team so they are not going to overpay for the position. pierre's never had a 200 touch season and managed to put together a RB20-25 season (PPR). he's not a #1 for most FF teams but far from a reach or desperation plug in. most FF teams would be very happy with pierre as their #2 Rb and 200 touches (combined).

 

[guderian]

tiny contract. backup money, although he could still get 200 or so touches and be useful as a desperation plug in.

For a guy who averaged 5.5 yards/touch that would be 1100 yards--hardly desperation.

 

[zamboni]

Great news for Pierre. He's a terrific fit for the offense because of his versatility. The Saints were fighting with one hand tied behind their back for much of the year with his injury. Ivory may take the other RB role that Mike Bell occupied given his hard physical running style. Ivory's inability to catch hurts him in the Saints offense. It would be a solid 1-2 punch, I think. Reggie might be the odd man out here.

Solid reasoning here.There seemed to be little chance that Ivory would be the do-it-all workhorse, and his injury at the end of the season pretty much cemented that. As others have said, if not PT, then someone else would have been brought in to share the load. By bringing Pierre back in spite of his own injury history and the seemingly rift (which could be overblown) between him and Payton, it seems to show that the team thought that Pierre was a better option than the FAs or rookies out there - at the price they want to pay. They clearly do not want to pay up for an RB when they have found late/undrafted guys like PT and Ivory to begin with.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

tiny contract. backup money, although he could still get 200 or so touches and be useful as a desperation plug in.

$3 MM per year is a decent contract. With the flood of free agent RBs this year, a fairly deep rookie class and the undertainly of the lockout, Pierre (or his agent) may have just figured that this was likely the best type of deal a RB coming off an injury plagues season was going to see.I think he still leads the RBBC in NO, with Ivory playing the powerback role. If Reggie is re-signed things get a bit more messy, but Bush kind of plays a no-RB type role anyway.

 

[shadyridr]

Ok........in 2009 he was RB20 while missing roughly 3 games. In 2008 he was RB18 while missing 1 game. Yeah, that's pretty worthless. Got any other good insight there, Einstein.

Have fun figuring out which games he goes off in... You probably wont have many to choose from since hes always hurt

 

[Bri]

You sound like a bitter Thomas/Ivory/and/or Bush owner.

How do I sound bitter exactly? Because I know what I'm talking about?

You called someone an @ for saying he was worthless then ignored 2010 when you posted your stats.

 

[Bri]

What a cluster^@#% if Bush returns to NOBush/Ivory/PT

This is key, very much so."Don't get me started" on how Bush is used in the pros.He seems to be the dynamic part of their offense that everyone feeds off of. It works well and kudos to Brees and Payton. In other offenses Devery being "just fast" would be a negative, but it's not in their offense. It's one weapon they can use. These RBs (I wouldn't call Bush a RB-a hybrid?) like Pierre and Ivory are more pieces to the puzzle. Colston gets a great deal of work. I don't think anyone else does.Are the Saints going to go to a more traditional O? These RBs might be exposed, the WR opposite Colston has to get better (Or put Arrington in) and they could have some real issues. It works having each perform their role; it works very well. I think it's quite different without Bush around and when Colston gets hurt their offense could flat out stink. Payton's prob in NY and Dal was he got too cute. I was waiting for him to during their Supe run and clearly he didn't. Is this it?

 

[SproutDaddy]

Ok........in 2009 he was RB20 while missing roughly 3 games. In 2008 he was RB18 while missing 1 game. Yeah, that's pretty worthless. Got any other good insight there, Einstein.

Have fun figuring out which games he goes off in... You probably wont have many to choose from since hes always hurt

You should really go back and look at the games he's played in over the past 3 years. He's been a solid RB2. Granted, he was out with a high ankle sprain most of last year, but that hardly constitutes him being a player who is always hurt. Sounds like you're mad because you drafted him last year.

 

[SproutDaddy]

You sound like a bitter Thomas/Ivory/and/or Bush owner.

How do I sound bitter exactly? Because I know what I'm talking about?

You called someone an @ for saying he was worthless then ignored 2010 when you posted your stats.

Okay. In 2010, the first 3 games he scored 16.1, 14.3, 12.1 points in my league. He then missed most of the season with a high ankle sprain. He then came back and posted 8.8, 4.5, 20.7 points. That's worthless? What exactly is the point you're trying to make here?

 

[Football Jones]

I believe Ivory is the big winner here as their most talented runner. This kid has enormous potential in that offense. No slight to Thomas, but Ivory is their future, IMO.

I thought they might be interested in Ingram or possibly trade for a top-flight RB, but as far as future competition for the feature back role, Ivory owners should be pleased. If he develops as a pass-catcher, Ivory could be a stud.

 

[shadyridr]

You sound like a bitter Thomas/Ivory/and/or Bush owner.

How do I sound bitter exactly? Because I know what I'm talking about?

You called someone an @ for saying he was worthless then ignored 2010 when you posted your stats.

Okay. In 2010, the first 3 games he scored 16.1, 14.3, 12.1 points in my league. He then missed most of the season with a high ankle sprain. He then came back and posted 8.8, 4.5, 20.7 points. That's worthless? What exactly is the point you're trying to make here?

What % of people played him those last 3 games?

 

[SproutDaddy]

You sound like a bitter Thomas/Ivory/and/or Bush owner.

How do I sound bitter exactly? Because I know what I'm talking about?

You called someone an @ for saying he was worthless then ignored 2010 when you posted your stats.

Okay. In 2010, the first 3 games he scored 16.1, 14.3, 12.1 points in my league. He then missed most of the season with a high ankle sprain. He then came back and posted 8.8, 4.5, 20.7 points. That's worthless? What exactly is the point you're trying to make here?

What % of people played him those last 3 games?

I did in the leagues I own him in. We can start 3 RBs. What exactly does that have to do with him being worthless? Nothing. What others do doesn't concern me.

 

[shadyridr]

WOW I GOT 4 PTS OUT OF MY RB3! HE HAS VALUE!

 

[moderated]

WOW I GOT 4 PTS OUT OF MY RB3! HE HAS VALUE!

Pierre Thomas = Value in leagues that require 5 starting RB's.

 

[SproutDaddy]

WOW I GOT 4 PTS OUT OF MY RB3! HE HAS VALUE!

Pierre Thomas = Value in leagues that require 5 starting RB's.

You guys have yet to make a point. They only thing you've proved is that you're over-opinionated and that you're wrong about this situation. But please, by all means, continue.

 

[SproutDaddy]

I believe Ivory is the big winner here as their most talented runner. This kid has enormous potential in that offense. No slight to Thomas, but Ivory is their future, IMO.I thought they might be interested in Ingram or possibly trade for a top-flight RB, but as far as future competition for the feature back role, Ivory owners should be pleased. If he develops as a pass-catcher, Ivory could be a stud.

Ivory isn't anything special. His couple of games where he produced was against weak defenses. PT getting a 4 year deal shows that he is the future lead guy. As someone already said in this thread, he fits into their offense perfectly. As a Saints fan I couldn't be happier. I thought he'd want more money.

 

[Yellow Line is Unoffcial]

I believe Ivory is the big winner here as their most talented runner. This kid has enormous potential in that offense. No slight to Thomas, but Ivory is their future, IMO.

I thought they might be interested in Ingram or possibly trade for a top-flight RB, but as far as future competition for the feature back role, Ivory owners should be pleased. If he develops as a pass-catcher, Ivory could be a stud.

I wouldn't trade a bag of Chips for Ivory. The best case for him next year is a "Mike Bell role" Thomas will be the lead dog in this commitee and could be a high end RB2. The celing for Ivory is 400 yards a 6 TDs. The floor is being inactive on gameday watching PT, Bush and Hamilton.Oh yea, this says nothing about thi Lis Franc

 

[shadyridr]

WOW I GOT 4 PTS OUT OF MY RB3! HE HAS VALUE!

Pierre Thomas = Value in leagues that require 5 starting RB's.

You guys have yet to make a point. They only thing you've proved is that you're over-opinionated and that you're wrong about this situation. But please, by all means, continue.

Sorry, you have a stud RB3. CONGRATULATIONS!

 

[moderated]

I believe Ivory is the big winner here as their most talented runner. This kid has enormous potential in that offense. No slight to Thomas, but Ivory is their future, IMO.

I thought they might be interested in Ingram or possibly trade for a top-flight RB, but as far as future competition for the feature back role, Ivory owners should be pleased. If he develops as a pass-catcher, Ivory could be a stud.

I wouldn't trade a bag of Chips for Ivory. The best case for him next year is a "Mike Bell role" Thomas will be the lead dog in this commitee and could be a high end RB2. The celing for Ivory is 400 yards a 6 TDs. The floor is being inactive on gameday watching PT, Bush and Hamilton.Oh yea, this says nothing about thi Lis Franc

He's never finished better then 20 in FF and he's always gimpy. All of a sudden he's gonna become a stud because NO signed him to backup type money. Top end RB2 indeed.

 

[menobrown]

I believe Ivory is the big winner here as their most talented runner. This kid has enormous potential in that offense. No slight to Thomas, but Ivory is their future, IMO.

I thought they might be interested in Ingram or possibly trade for a top-flight RB, but as far as future competition for the feature back role, Ivory owners should be pleased. If he develops as a pass-catcher, Ivory could be a stud.

I wouldn't trade a bag of Chips for Ivory. The best case for him next year is a "Mike Bell role" Thomas will be the lead dog in this commitee and could be a high end RB2. The celing for Ivory is 400 yards a 6 TDs. The floor is being inactive on gameday watching PT, Bush and Hamilton.Oh yea, this says nothing about thi Lis Franc

Somehow you two don't agree with each other and yet I don't agree with either of you either.

I'm an Ivory owner and don't buy the rationale that signing PT helps his value. I think PT heavily eats into Ivory's value. I think Ivory made an ideal pairing with Reggie in terms of workload but for the Saints purposes PT offers a lot more versatility than Ivory.

If I had to own one Saints RB I'd want to own PT followed by Reggie(if he returns) and Ivory last. I'd also add that I do think if Reggie leaves PT is a solid RB2 but if Reggie returns and they miracalously all stay healthy they will all eat into each others value and trying to decide which one will to start will be a nightmare with not a single one of them having consistent value or being a RB2.

Biggest part about Yellows comment I'd disagree with is his ceiling projection for Ivory. To me ceiling means the best a player can do and I don't know how you can call those numbers his ceiling when he already nearly matched that TD total and almost doubled that yardage total on only 137 carries. He's also way more explosive than Mike Bell or Hamilton have or will ever be.

To me the bottom line is all PT, Reggie and Ivory owners need to hoping like hell that Reggie leaves.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I believe Ivory is the big winner here as their most talented runner. This kid has enormous potential in that offense. No slight to Thomas, but Ivory is their future, IMO.

I thought they might be interested in Ingram or possibly trade for a top-flight RB, but as far as future competition for the feature back role, Ivory owners should be pleased. If he develops as a pass-catcher, Ivory could be a stud.

I wouldn't trade a bag of Chips for Ivory. The best case for him next year is a "Mike Bell role" Thomas will be the lead dog in this commitee and could be a high end RB2. The celing for Ivory is 400 yards a 6 TDs. The floor is being inactive on gameday watching PT, Bush and Hamilton.Oh yea, this says nothing about thi Lis Franc

He's never finished better then 20 in FF and he's always gimpy. All of a sudden he's gonna become a stud because NO signed him to backup type money. Top end RB2 indeed.

In 2008 he was ranked 20th rb ppr...In 2009 he was ranked 18th rb ppr...

In 2010, in the games he played, he averaged 14.67 points per game, which is good for 16th rb ppr

Solid RB2 #'s...

:insert to many emoticons:

 

[I was in the pool]

What about Betts???? LOL

 

[Sweet Love]

I believe Ivory is the big winner here as their most talented runner. This kid has enormous potential in that offense. No slight to Thomas, but Ivory is their future, IMO.

I thought they might be interested in Ingram or possibly trade for a top-flight RB, but as far as future competition for the feature back role, Ivory owners should be pleased. If he develops as a pass-catcher, Ivory could be a stud.

I wouldn't trade a bag of Chips for Ivory. The best case for him next year is a "Mike Bell role" Thomas will be the lead dog in this commitee and could be a high end RB2. The celing for Ivory is 400 yards a 6 TDs. The floor is being inactive on gameday watching PT, Bush and Hamilton.Oh yea, this says nothing about thi Lis Franc

He's never finished better then 20 in FF and he's always gimpy. All of a sudden he's gonna become a stud because NO signed him to backup type money. Top end RB2 indeed.

In 2008 he was ranked 20th rb ppr...In 2009 he was ranked 18th rb ppr...

In 2010, in the games he played, he averaged 14.67 points per game, which is good for 16th rb ppr

Solid RB2 #'s...

:insert to many emoticons:

I believe Ronnie Brown would provide the same numbers over that time period (and most likely greater and for a longer period), yet NO ONE is going to go bonkers whether he resigns in Miami or signs somewhere else...a turd burgler is a turd burgler, and Pierre Thomas, YOU sir, are a turd burgler.

 

[Yellow Line is Unoffcial]

I believe Ivory is the big winner here as their most talented runner. This kid has enormous potential in that offense. No slight to Thomas, but Ivory is their future, IMO.

I thought they might be interested in Ingram or possibly trade for a top-flight RB, but as far as future competition for the feature back role, Ivory owners should be pleased. If he develops as a pass-catcher, Ivory could be a stud.

I wouldn't trade a bag of Chips for Ivory. The best case for him next year is a "Mike Bell role" Thomas will be the lead dog in this commitee and could be a high end RB2. The celing for Ivory is 400 yards a 6 TDs. The floor is being inactive on gameday watching PT, Bush and Hamilton.Oh yea, this says nothing about thi Lis Franc

He's never finished better then 20 in FF and he's always gimpy. All of a sudden he's gonna become a stud because NO signed him to backup type money. Top end RB2 indeed.

In 2008 he was ranked 20th rb ppr...In 2009 he was ranked 18th rb ppr...

In 2010, in the games he played, he averaged 14.67 points per game, which is good for 16th rb ppr

Solid RB2 #'s...

:insert to many emoticons:

I believe Ronnie Brown would provide the same numbers over that time period (and most likely greater and for a longer period), yet NO ONE is going to go bonkers whether he resigns in Miami or signs somewhere else...a turd burgler is a turd burgler, and Pierre Thomas, YOU sir, are a turd burgler.

Ronnie Brown is 3 years older and has 3 years more wear on his body. Three years ago plenty of people were excited by Ronnie Brown. Horrible analogy.

 

[shadyridr]

I believe Ivory is the big winner here as their most talented runner. This kid has enormous potential in that offense. No slight to Thomas, but Ivory is their future, IMO.

I thought they might be interested in Ingram or possibly trade for a top-flight RB, but as far as future competition for the feature back role, Ivory owners should be pleased. If he develops as a pass-catcher, Ivory could be a stud.

I wouldn't trade a bag of Chips for Ivory. The best case for him next year is a "Mike Bell role" Thomas will be the lead dog in this commitee and could be a high end RB2. The celing for Ivory is 400 yards a 6 TDs. The floor is being inactive on gameday watching PT, Bush and Hamilton.Oh yea, this says nothing about thi Lis Franc

He's never finished better then 20 in FF and he's always gimpy. All of a sudden he's gonna become a stud because NO signed him to backup type money. Top end RB2 indeed.

In 2008 he was ranked 20th rb ppr...In 2009 he was ranked 18th rb ppr...

In 2010, in the games he played, he averaged 14.67 points per game, which is good for 16th rb ppr

Solid RB2 #'s...

:insert to many emoticons:

Good luck winning championships with the 16th ranked RB for 3 games all year!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously, this is your argument for the guy? Honestly, now I dont know what side your on. Thats how bad your point was.

 

[The Captain]

To this day I still don't understand why people get so uptight and ramped up when they disagree on the potential value/production of a player.

Who gives a flying #### if someone else doesn't agree with your opinion?

Carry on...

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

If Bush isn't retained u better believe i'll(and most should) have eyes on Pierre. Potential for a PPR monster, the risk of injury is high............so u don't have the guy as your lead back and maybe not even as a your #2 in a perfect world. i know he's not on the same planet talent wise as Marshall or westy but i don't seem to think too many cared about there the injury risk and you knew those guys would be missing time. simple fact u take the games u can get and plan on having depth. the games they can win you will outweight the games they lose you if your more than a novice fantasy player.

 

[menobrown]

To this day I still don't understand why people get so uptight and ramped up when they disagree on the potential value/production of a player.Who gives a flying #### if someone else doesn't agree with your opinion?

While getting personal and the such is usually silly sports arguments are one of the greatest things about sports.

 

[SproutDaddy]

I believe Ivory is the big winner here as their most talented runner. This kid has enormous potential in that offense. No slight to Thomas, but Ivory is their future, IMO.

I thought they might be interested in Ingram or possibly trade for a top-flight RB, but as far as future competition for the feature back role, Ivory owners should be pleased. If he develops as a pass-catcher, Ivory could be a stud.

I wouldn't trade a bag of Chips for Ivory. The best case for him next year is a "Mike Bell role" Thomas will be the lead dog in this commitee and could be a high end RB2. The celing for Ivory is 400 yards a 6 TDs. The floor is being inactive on gameday watching PT, Bush and Hamilton.Oh yea, this says nothing about thi Lis Franc

He's never finished better then 20 in FF and he's always gimpy. All of a sudden he's gonna become a stud because NO signed him to backup type money. Top end RB2 indeed.

In 2008 he was ranked 20th rb ppr...In 2009 he was ranked 18th rb ppr...

In 2010, in the games he played, he averaged 14.67 points per game, which is good for 16th rb ppr

Solid RB2 #'s...

:insert to many emoticons:

Good luck winning championships with the 16th ranked RB for 3 games all year!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously, this is your argument for the guy? Honestly, now I dont know what side your on. Thats how bad your point was.

Oh yeah......that's right, every league has the same lineup requirements. What the hell was I thinking?Seriously, how are people who ride the shortbus allowed to post here.

 

[DropKick]

I believe Ivory is the big winner here as their most talented runner. This kid has enormous potential in that offense. No slight to Thomas, but Ivory is their future, IMO.

I thought they might be interested in Ingram or possibly trade for a top-flight RB, but as far as future competition for the feature back role, Ivory owners should be pleased. If he develops as a pass-catcher, Ivory could be a stud.

I wouldn't trade a bag of Chips for Ivory. The best case for him next year is a "Mike Bell role" Thomas will be the lead dog in this commitee and could be a high end RB2. The celing for Ivory is 400 yards a 6 TDs. The floor is being inactive on gameday watching PT, Bush and Hamilton.Oh yea, this says nothing about thi Lis Franc

He's never finished better then 20 in FF and he's always gimpy. All of a sudden he's gonna become a stud because NO signed him to backup type money. Top end RB2 indeed.

In 2008 he was ranked 20th rb ppr...In 2009 he was ranked 18th rb ppr...

In 2010, in the games he played, he averaged 14.67 points per game, which is good for 16th rb ppr

Solid RB2 #'s...

:insert to many emoticons:

Good luck winning championships with the 16th ranked RB for 3 games all year!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously, this is your argument for the guy? Honestly, now I dont know what side your on. Thats how bad your point was.

Oh yeah......that's right, every league has the same lineup requirements. What the hell was I thinking?Seriously, how are people who ride the shortbus allowed to post here.

I don't know, shorty, you tell me.Start off by being a touch more polite. It goes a long way toward real conversation.

I was early on the PT wagon... Versatile back, great fit for the offense, never given a full load by Payton....

I can't tell you how many times I've watched him limp off the field. Traded him and not looking back. The guy just can't seem to stay healthy.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I believe Ivory is the big winner here as their most talented runner. This kid has enormous potential in that offense. No slight to Thomas, but Ivory is their future, IMO.

I thought they might be interested in Ingram or possibly trade for a top-flight RB, but as far as future competition for the feature back role, Ivory owners should be pleased. If he develops as a pass-catcher, Ivory could be a stud.

I wouldn't trade a bag of Chips for Ivory. The best case for him next year is a "Mike Bell role" Thomas will be the lead dog in this commitee and could be a high end RB2. The celing for Ivory is 400 yards a 6 TDs. The floor is being inactive on gameday watching PT, Bush and Hamilton.Oh yea, this says nothing about thi Lis Franc

He's never finished better then 20 in FF and he's always gimpy. All of a sudden he's gonna become a stud because NO signed him to backup type money. Top end RB2 indeed.

In 2008 he was ranked 20th rb ppr...In 2009 he was ranked 18th rb ppr...

In 2010, in the games he played, he averaged 14.67 points per game, which is good for 16th rb ppr

Solid RB2 #'s...

:insert to many emoticons:

Good luck winning championships with the 16th ranked RB for 3 games all year!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously, this is your argument for the guy? Honestly, now I dont know what side your on. Thats how bad your point was.

Now I have to be on a side? Are we playing Cowboys and Indians?He missed alot of last season.. A good percentage of RB's have bad injury seasons..

I've shown you 3 seasons, you picked the worst of the 3 and then exaggerate. He hasn't had a 3 game season yet.. What about the other 2 seasons? What about the upward trend on ranking? What about the points output per week?

So, he's never going to play more than 3 games a year? How ridiculous does that sound? Look at the last 3 seasons..

 

[shadyridr]

I believe Ivory is the big winner here as their most talented runner. This kid has enormous potential in that offense. No slight to Thomas, but Ivory is their future, IMO.

I thought they might be interested in Ingram or possibly trade for a top-flight RB, but as far as future competition for the feature back role, Ivory owners should be pleased. If he develops as a pass-catcher, Ivory could be a stud.

I wouldn't trade a bag of Chips for Ivory. The best case for him next year is a "Mike Bell role" Thomas will be the lead dog in this commitee and could be a high end RB2. The celing for Ivory is 400 yards a 6 TDs. The floor is being inactive on gameday watching PT, Bush and Hamilton.Oh yea, this says nothing about thi Lis Franc

He's never finished better then 20 in FF and he's always gimpy. All of a sudden he's gonna become a stud because NO signed him to backup type money. Top end RB2 indeed.

In 2008 he was ranked 20th rb ppr...In 2009 he was ranked 18th rb ppr...

In 2010, in the games he played, he averaged 14.67 points per game, which is good for 16th rb ppr

Solid RB2 #'s...

:insert to many emoticons:

Good luck winning championships with the 16th ranked RB for 3 games all year!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously, this is your argument for the guy? Honestly, now I dont know what side your on. Thats how bad your point was.

Oh yeah......that's right, every league has the same lineup requirements. What the hell was I thinking?Seriously, how are people who ride the shortbus allowed to post here.

I don't know, shorty, you tell me.Start off by being a touch more polite. It goes a long way toward real conversation.

I was early on the PT wagon... Versatile back, great fit for the offense, never given a full load by Payton....

I can't tell you how many times I've watched him limp off the field. Traded him and not looking back. The guy just can't seem to stay healthy.

Is PT your playtime buddy or something? Seriously, calling people asses and on the shortbus just cuz we dont agree. Maybe its time to find another hobby like stamp collecting cuz you might suffer a heart attack soon from all the stress.