Saints WILL take Bush (1 Viewer)

[rockbottom895]

Salpal Antonio has just reported that he has spoken to Reggie Bush's agent who has spoken with the Saints, claiming that they intend to choose Reggie with 2nd pick overall. What does this do to Duece's fantasy value? Does Reggie start right away? CRAZY NIGHT OF FOOTBALL BOYS.

 

[Sea Bass]

Titans, you are on the clock.

 

[Challenge Everything]

Trade

 

[Andy Dufresne]

He will be a Saint for about as long as Eli Manning was a Charger.

 

[trader jake]

He will be a Saint for about as long as Eli Manning was a Charger.

 

[Dave Baker]

What does this do to Duece's fantasy value? Does Reggie start right away?

I think it has to hurt Deuce. I really think this hurts Bush of course, more so than for virtually any other team that might take him. But however it hurts Bush, it also means Deuce is not on the field as much even if healthy.But this is bad, bad news for both Bush and Deuce owners.

 

[SoloMatisse]

He'll be traded to the Jets before that pick is even announced.

 

[Reaper]

He'll be traded to the Jets before that pick is even announced.

I like Bush as much as the next guy.....But, I hope they don't pay that price.

 

[Texasmouth]

He'll be traded to the Jets before that pick is even announced.

Took the words right outta my mouth.....

 

[-OZ-]

Deuce is coming back from an injury.

Bush is the best player available, seems too easy to me.

Any chance Deuce gets traded instead of Bush?

 

[Kiddnets]

For what its worth the JEts boards are reporting serious negotiations between NO and JEts:

JEts offered #4 and #29 -

NO wants them to throw in #71 (3rd rder) - JEts hedging

If true - Can't see this deal falling through on the account of a 3rd - Jets even have another as a comp pick.

Jets would have Bush, third pick in the 2nd rd, last pick in the 3rd and 2 4ths.

I think Tangini is trying to push off the KC 4th rder on them - wouldnt it be ironic if the Hermie pick gets them Bush?!?!

 

[nightshift]

NO will not take Bush.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

NO will not take Bush.

Then who?

 

[Bob_Magaw]

the saints may have been prepared to take mario despite having two potential pro bowl DEs (grant & smith)...

so we should consider the possibility they take reggie despite having deuce...

saints did it before when it was taking deuce despite having ricky williams... if it plays out the same, they could be separated by 2007, which would be better for bush & deuce owners (not sure about cap consequences of moving deuce?)...

bush was reportedly #1 on saints board, even ahead of mario...

all this said, it won't surprise me if jets end up with bush... but just think... if they stand pat, they could emerge from first with something like da brick AND maybe one of next best RBs... williams/maroney/white... that could be tempting...

 

[Hawkeyeskin]

NO will not take Bush.

Agree with Steel.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

NO will not take Bush.

Agree with Steel.

Then you both appear to have all the qualifications to be the next Texans GM.

 

[nightshift]

NO tries to trade the pick, asks too much like Houston, but no one bites. They pass on Bush.

TEN tries & makes the deal with J-E-T-S, who have the heir apparent to CuMar. Welcome to NY, Reggie! Back-up to a HOFer for a couple of years.

TEN takes Leinart, not Young.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

NO tries to trade the pick, asks too much like Houston, but no one bites. They pass on Bush.

TEN tries & makes the deal with J-E-T-S, who have the heir apparent to CuMar. Welcome to NY, Reggie! Back-up to a HOFer afor a couple of years.

TEN takes Leinart, not Young.

But who does NO take? Ferguson?Hawk? (wouldn't that be crazy)

 

[cstu]

Deuce is coming back from an injury.

Bush is the best player available, seems too easy to me.

Any chance Deuce gets traded instead of Bush?

Deuce isn't that young (turns 28), is coming off a serious injury, their only meaningful RB is Bennett and they have a chance to draft a potentially great RB.

 

[Quez]

I could see someone like Carolina, Pitt., or Denver trading a pick for Deuce. makes sense to me.

Imagine the fantasy impact if Deuce got traded to one of these teams, and Bush goes to NO with Bennet & Stecker as the only competition.

 

[Sea Bass]

Deuce is coming back from an injury.

Bush is the best player available, seems too easy to me.

Any chance Deuce gets traded instead of Bush?

It's about time someone stated the obvious!

 

[Quez]

I could see someone like Carolina, Pitt., or Denver trading a pick for Deuce. makes sense to me.

Imagine the fantasy impact if Deuce got traded to one of these teams, and Bush goes to NO with Bennet & Stecker as the only competition.

 

[Sidewinder]

...

saints did it before when it was taking deuce despite having ricky williams...

Totally different regime in place now. Could very well happen, but would not use the Deuce/Ricky situation as a precedent for calling how this turns out.

 

[nightshift]

NO tries to trade the pick, asks too much like Houston, but no one bites. They pass on Bush.

TEN tries & makes the deal with J-E-T-S, who have the heir apparent to CuMar. Welcome to NY, Reggie! Back-up to a HOFer afor a couple of years.

TEN takes Leinart, not Young.

But who does NO take? Ferguson?Hawk? (wouldn't that be crazy)

D' Brickashaw Ferguson.Why? Look at their investment, Brees. Can't have him getting beat up like his Carr. That won't do.

Already have a really good RB corp. NO needs O-Line help, big time.

Bush gonna drop the $30m bit for #2? Nope. NO gonna pay him? nope.

It will take one more drop before this bonehead realizes how many millions are slipping thru his fingers, pick by pick.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

D' Brickashaw Ferguson.

Why? Look at their investment, Brees. Can't have him getting beat up like his Carr. That won't do.

Already have a really good RB corp. NO needs O-Line help, big time.

They can still get a very good pick for the o-line in the 2nd. Their RB corp is lousy.

 

[Bob_Magaw]

...

saints did it before when it was taking deuce despite having ricky williams...

Totally different regime in place now. Could very well happen, but would not use the Deuce/Ricky situation as a precedent for calling how this turns out.

is nobody in front office a common thread from ditka/haslett transition & ricky williams era?i realize it is new coaching staff...

 

[nightshift]

D' Brickashaw Ferguson.

Why? Look at their investment, Brees. Can't have him getting beat up like his Carr. That won't do.

Already have a really good RB corp. NO needs O-Line help, big time.

They can still get a very good pick for the o-line in the 2nd. Their RB corp is lousy.

Bull. Deuce is still a good RB. Bennett will be a very good back-up & change of pace.There is nobody to compare Ferguson to in this draft.

BEST PART: They don't have pay the Reggie big bucks to get him!

Reggie blew it. He went offer crazy & he best chill before he falls to 5-10 range.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

D' Brickashaw Ferguson.

Why? Look at their investment, Brees. Can't have him getting beat up like his Carr. That won't do.

Already have a really good RB corp. NO needs O-Line help, big time.

They can still get a very good pick for the o-line in the 2nd. Their RB corp is lousy.

Bull. Deuce is still a good RB. Bennett will be a very good back-up & change of pace.

Deuce has an injury that takes at least two full seasons to come back from.As a Vikings fan, I can tell you that Bennett is NOT a very good back up nor is he a good change of pace back. He's just not.

FWIW - I think Ferguson would be the correct pick if they don't get trade offers for Bush.

 

[nightshift]

D' Brickashaw Ferguson.

Why? Look at their investment, Brees. Can't have him getting beat up like his Carr. That won't do.

Already have a really good RB corp. NO needs O-Line help, big time.

They can still get a very good pick for the o-line in the 2nd. Their RB corp is lousy.

Bull. Deuce is still a good RB. Bennett will be a very good back-up & change of pace.

Deuce has an injury that takes at least two full seasons to come back from.As a Vikings fan, I can tell you that Bennett is NOT a very good back up nor is he a good change of pace back. He's just not.

FWIW - I think Ferguson would be the correct pick if they don't get trade offers for Bush.

Let's say you are right. What backs will be available at the top 2, IF Reggie falls to say #3? It could set a tone where you might see White taken at the top round 2.

NO with Ferguson & White? very smart move indeed.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Deuce to the Broncos?

 

[Sidewinder]

...

saints did it before when it was taking deuce despite having ricky williams...

Totally different regime in place now. Could very well happen, but would not use the Deuce/Ricky situation as a precedent for calling how this turns out.

is nobody in front office a common thread from ditka/haslett transition & ricky williams era?i realize it is new coaching staff...

Randy Mueller was GM and ran the show back at that time. Loomis was on the administrative side and Rick Mueller was a scout in 01 -- they are the only ones left, and neither was in a position of any great influence 5 years ago.

 

[nightshift]

Deuce to the Broncos?

Duece ain't goin' anywhere. Bush is the trade bait.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Deuce to the Broncos?

Duece ain't goin' anywhere. Bush is the trade bait.

Bush to the Broncos?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Deuce to the Broncos?

Duece ain't goin' anywhere. Bush is the trade bait.

Bush to the Broncos?

Think Skeletor regrets giving up that extra 1st now?

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Deuce to the Broncos?

Duece ain't goin' anywhere. Bush is the trade bait.

Bush to the Broncos?

Think Skeletor regrets giving up that extra 1st now?

 

[Sidewinder]

Deuce to the Broncos?

Duece ain't goin' anywhere. Bush is the trade bait.

Bush to the Broncos?

They've got alot of picks to work with, but I just don't see the Saints dropping out of the top 7.

 

[nightshift]

Deuce to the Broncos?

Duece ain't goin' anywhere. Bush is the trade bait.

Bush to the Broncos?

Can't afford him & more importantly, ain't Skeletor's style.

 

[valhallan]

The Saints should still take da brick to protect da investment.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

The Saints should still take da brick to protect da investment.

Jamaal Brown is going to move to LT and they can get a great RT in the 2nd.

 

[valhallan]

The Saints should still take da brick to protect da investment.

Jamaal Brown is going to move to LT and they can get a great RT in the 2nd.

Yeah, I heard they want to move Brown to LT but I can't see him being a better fit there than Ferguson.. Jamaal was more a of a run-blocker coming out. Either way, none of the other guys seem worth that no. 2 for the Saints, imo

 

[Napoleon Dynamite]

ZERO CHANCE NO takes Brick at #2

The Jets already offered #4 and #29

If they want brick they would accept that trade and take Brick at #4

 

[Demons]

ZERO CHANCE NO takes Brick at #2

The Jets already offered #4 and #29

If they want brick they would accept that trade and take Brick at #4

 

[Sea Bass]

Best Player Available = Reggie Bush!

 

[Hendo]

investing that much $ at the RB spot is a great recipe for future team success

 

[Donnybrook]

He will be a Saint for about as long as Eli Manning was a Charger.

What if Tennessee takes Young? Will the Jets forget about trading up for Bush and take Leinart?

 

[Pnishthm]

Something else for the Saints to think about... Say they trade with the Jets down to #4. If the Titans happen to take Lienart at 3, then the Saints can trade down with the Raiders to #7 (so the Raiders can take Young) and still possibly end up with D'Brick at #7. Pack takes Hawk and #5 and 49ers take Davis at #6. A longshot, but what a day that would be for the Saints. Trade down twice and pickup a bunch of extra picks and still get the guy they were looking at with their #2. Crazy!

 

[Z-Dog]

investing that much $ at the RB spot is a great recipe for future team success

Sure. And Indy's really crying over taking Edge in the top-5. So is San Diego. Caddy has totally ruined TB. Marshall Faulk was horrible for the Rams, and Eddie George did nothing for the Titans. Stephen Davis was a terrible signing for Carolina, and the Redskins are really struggling with Clinton Portis in the picture. None of the Ravens' success owes to Jamal Lewis.There's more than one way to win in the NFL.

 

[Sand]

Something else for the Saints to think about... Say they trade with the Jets down to #4. If the Titans happen to take Lienart at 3, then the Saints can trade down with the Raiders to #7 (so the Raiders can take Young) and still possibly end up with D'Brick at #7. Pack takes Hawk and #5 and 49ers take Davis at #6. A longshot, but what a day that would be for the Saints. Trade down twice and pickup a bunch of extra picks and still get the guy they were looking at with their #2. Crazy!

I love the position the Saints are in. They can wheel and deal and get away with it. The aquisition of Brees was a really, really good move in retropsect. They have tons of options.

 

[Pots]

Something else for the Saints to think about... Say they trade with the Jets down to #4. If the Titans happen to take Lienart at 3, then the Saints can trade down with the Raiders to #7 (so the Raiders can take Young) and still possibly end up with D'Brick at #7. Pack takes Hawk and #5 and 49ers take Davis at #6. A longshot, but what a day that would be for the Saints. Trade down twice and pickup a bunch of extra picks and still get the guy they were looking at with their #2. Crazy!

I love the position the Saints are in. They can wheel and deal and get away with it. The aquisition of Brees was a really, really good move in retropsect. They have tons of options.

 

[Cookiemonster]

I can't help but think the Jets could put next year's 1st w/ this 1st for Bush. Take Mangold @ the end of the 1st and maybe E.Winston top of the 2nd and have started the foundation for a superior offense in a couple years.