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Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) tweeted at 4:33 PM on Wed, Dec 18, 2013:49ers have placed FB Bruce Miller on IR and announced they have signed FB Will Tukuafu to a two-year deal.

Old news already but its official
Sucks, Miller is becoming one of my favorite players.

 
Well, I'm pleased we got the win, but I can't say I'm feeling confident going into AZ next week. Hopefully we can chalk last night's game up to Candlestick-closing distraction and jitters. For those outside they bay area, it's been a circus around here for the last week and beyond.

... Speaking of the circus.... they closed out the 'Stick with a Boys II Men concert? WTF? When I heard that during the day, I figured it was an internet hoax. :bag:

 
Agree, that game was way too close for comfort, but winning tough games like that can only help down the road.

Love to know what Harbaugh said to Kaep at halftime because he looked like a different player in the 2nd half. He really can't open games like that in the playoffs because they aren't built to come from behind.

 
That pick 6 was friggin EPIC. What a way to close out the Stick.

And man its great to see Crab making a huge impact. Dude has made an incredible recovery and its insane how far he's come already. I'm a little worried about not having Bruce Miller for the postseason though. SF is much healthier going in than they were last year...lets hope they stay healthy and can put together a 4 game winning streak once the tournament starts.

:excited:

 
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Agree, that game was way too close for comfort, but winning tough games like that can only help down the road.

Love to know what Harbaugh said to Kaep at halftime because he looked like a different player in the 2nd half. He really can't open games like that in the playoffs because they aren't built to come from behind.
I really hate blaming the refs, but there were quite a few big calls that were blown that helped swing momentum. Whitners hit on Ajax, OPI against Crab (which was an amazing catch), roughing the passer on Brooks who barely grazed Ryan as he fell, and holding against Whitner when he got thrown down by Gonzo... etc. Although that DPI for Boldin that gave us a first looked like a total makeup call, there was nothing there.

Vernon looked off. Dropped a few easy catches, didn't get his feet in and seemed to be holding his lower back and grimacing often. Hope it's nothing.

 
Gruden during the game last night was hammering Kaep, and for good reason. Kaep had the happy feet dear in headlights lack of poise most of the game. Gruden even said the ATL defense spooked him. I lol'd at Jerry in the booth saying how if the ball was placed better the WR Kaep targeted (I forget which one) would have possibly scored. You could see the differences in both QB's easy last night. I dunno how long it will take for Kaep to get to Ryan's level as a passer, but he really was shaky in the first half.

His passing stats: 13 of 21 for 197 yards with 1 TD. His rushing stats: 6 for 51 yards, and a TD. His two main targets that he hit were Boldin and Crabs, with Gore and Osgood have one catch a piece. The passing game kinda stinks at this point. A lot of that is on the lack of depth, but that also means Kaep gives up on too many plays as well. The one play where he scrambled right into a sack was Alex Smith-esque of old.

Dunno how this will translate into the playoffs, but again, the passing offense is still the weak link of the team. I always say this and it still rings true: they are still not on the level of even the Mooch era Jeff Garcia/TO days. Funny how they close the 'Stick without that field ever seeing a good consistent passing offense from the 49ers since.

 
His passing stats: 13 of 21 for 197 yards with 1 TD. His rushing stats: 6 for 51 yards, and a TD. His two main targets that he hit were Boldin and Crabs, with Gore and Osgood have one catch a piece. The passing game kinda stinks at this point. A lot of that is on the lack of depth, but that also means Kaep gives up on too many plays as well. The one play where he scrambled right into a sack was Alex Smith-esque of old.
Also, Davis had a crappy game; beside the drop (which wasn't a great throw but should have been caught), he failed to get his arms up on what could have been a long TD throw.

 
His passing stats: 13 of 21 for 197 yards with 1 TD. His rushing stats: 6 for 51 yards, and a TD. His two main targets that he hit were Boldin and Crabs, with Gore and Osgood have one catch a piece. The passing game kinda stinks at this point. A lot of that is on the lack of depth, but that also means Kaep gives up on too many plays as well. The one play where he scrambled right into a sack was Alex Smith-esque of old.
Also, Davis had a crappy game; beside the drop (which wasn't a great throw but should have been caught), he failed to get his arms up on what could have been a long TD throw.
I didn't count how many times Davis was targeted, but I think he dropped another one besides that play. I could be wrong though. I don't think Davis has the best hands compared to other stud TE's.

Kaep did make a lot of poor throws last night. He doesn't have great pocket presence, and he throws a lot off his back foot. His arm can compensate for some of his mechanical issues as well as overall QB play. But during the first half I thought he flat out looked bad. They need to coach him up more in the off-season to at least get to a level of consistency to help match his physical attributes.

I always thought Kaep a long term project, so I have patience with him. He'll be entering his fourth season in the NFL after this one, so hopefully he can get to that next level. They just need to take his Twitter account from him during the off-season and lock him into watching a ton of game film and work with his mechanics.

 
His passing stats: 13 of 21 for 197 yards with 1 TD. His rushing stats: 6 for 51 yards, and a TD. His two main targets that he hit were Boldin and Crabs, with Gore and Osgood have one catch a piece. The passing game kinda stinks at this point. A lot of that is on the lack of depth, but that also means Kaep gives up on too many plays as well. The one play where he scrambled right into a sack was Alex Smith-esque of old.
Also, Davis had a crappy game; beside the drop (which wasn't a great throw but should have been caught), he failed to get his arms up on what could have been a long TD throw.
I didn't count how many times Davis was targeted, but I think he dropped another one besides that play. I could be wrong though. I don't think Davis has the best hands compared to other stud TE's.

Kaep did make a lot of poor throws last night. He doesn't have great pocket presence, and he throws a lot off his back foot. His arm can compensate for some of his mechanical issues as well as overall QB play. But during the first half I thought he flat out looked bad. They need to coach him up more in the off-season to at least get to a level of consistency to help match his physical attributes.

I always thought Kaep a long term project, so I have patience with him. He'll be entering his fourth season in the NFL after this one, so hopefully he can get to that next level. They just need to take his Twitter account from him during the off-season and lock him into watching a ton of game film and work with his mechanics.
What's interesting is that his mechanics from last year looked alot better. His release was faster and nothing like the guy I saw play for Nevada. This year just seems like he regressed somewhat mechanics wise and got into some bad habits (not standing in the pocket to deliver the throws, relying more on what Gruden referred to as "Big ben style of QB", etc...). Maybe the Harbaugh warnings about him getting too swoll were legit.

 
His passing stats: 13 of 21 for 197 yards with 1 TD. His rushing stats: 6 for 51 yards, and a TD. His two main targets that he hit were Boldin and Crabs, with Gore and Osgood have one catch a piece. The passing game kinda stinks at this point. A lot of that is on the lack of depth, but that also means Kaep gives up on too many plays as well. The one play where he scrambled right into a sack was Alex Smith-esque of old.
Also, Davis had a crappy game; beside the drop (which wasn't a great throw but should have been caught), he failed to get his arms up on what could have been a long TD throw.
I didn't count how many times Davis was targeted, but I think he dropped another one besides that play. I could be wrong though. I don't think Davis has the best hands compared to other stud TE's.

Kaep did make a lot of poor throws last night. He doesn't have great pocket presence, and he throws a lot off his back foot. His arm can compensate for some of his mechanical issues as well as overall QB play. But during the first half I thought he flat out looked bad. They need to coach him up more in the off-season to at least get to a level of consistency to help match his physical attributes.

I always thought Kaep a long term project, so I have patience with him. He'll be entering his fourth season in the NFL after this one, so hopefully he can get to that next level. They just need to take his Twitter account from him during the off-season and lock him into watching a ton of game film and work with his mechanics.
What's interesting is that his mechanics from last year looked alot better. His release was faster and nothing like the guy I saw play for Nevada. This year just seems like he regressed somewhat mechanics wise and got into some bad habits (not standing in the pocket to deliver the throws, relying more on what Gruden referred to as "Big ben style of QB", etc...). Maybe the Harbaugh warnings about him getting too swoll were legit.
His mechanics weren't that good last year either. The change from Smith to Kaep brought a lot of new wrinkles to the offense in 2012. The offense also could ramp up with Kaep if slowed like against NE because of game tape of Smith. That's gonna loosen things up for Kaep.

This season, he is totally pressing to the point where on a lesser team he could be just another Geno Smith. Ya gotta remember that the main two targets he has thrown to are vets in Davis and Boldin. He also has a vet defense and Gore who carried a lot of scrub QB's. I mean come on now, if it weren't for the stalwart players like Gore, Justin Smith, Patrick Willis, and Andy Lee, the 49ers even with Harbaugh without a lot of the talent accrued over the Erickson/Nolan/Singletary era's (lol, that's coaches over a span of less than ten years, with two GM's along the way to boot after Mooch was fired from John York who he didn't hire. Thank you, idiot John York) would had picked another QB high in the draft, and built around that QB from day one.

What I'm saying is that the current 49ers under Harbaugh aren't a QB driven team. The QB's under Harbaugh with the 49ers have been posting some really mediocre QB games. The notion of Harbaugh as a "QB Guru" is just Matt Maiocco "Smith is Elite" hype to me now. He didn't turn around Alex Smith, he bumped him down to a game manager. Norv Turner did more with Smith than Harbaugh did. The only QB who Harbaugh has that proves him as a QB coach is Andrew Luck, and I think Harbaugh rides more on Luck than Luck rides on Harbaugh.

The only thing settled with the QB position now is that Kaep is the QB, and no one else. Harbaugh made sure of it. I don't have a problem with it either, not that my opinion matters. But the passing offense still stinks. Harbaugh has not improved upon it. Of course again, it really isn't a passing offense. But with Kaep and his arm, it's an offense than even Druckenmiller could had run save the read option plays. When I see Kaep firing throws into targets on short routes, I think Kaepenmiller at times, lol......

Drucks only start against STL in 1997: 10 of 28 for 102 yards and one TD in a win.

Kaep against HOU this season: 6 for 15 for and one TD in a win.

I'm cherry picking a stat here because obviously the 1997 49ers offense compared to the current 2013 offense was dimensionally greater overall. Yet on defense, the 1997 team was 3rd overall in PA. That 1997 team also had a combined rushing total of almost 2000 yards. The turnover ratio was +21 that season too. Steve Young posted a regular season number of 19 TDs to 6 INTs for a little over 3000 yards (Zomg! Close to Alex Smith's best season in SF in 2011!). Jerry Rice, Brent Jones, and Terrell Owens were also on that team. Who coached it? Mooch.

BTW, the 1997 defense had Bryant Young, Merton Hanks, Chris Doleman, Lee "Holyfield lookalike" Woodall, Dana Stubbefield, Gary Plummer, an old Rod Woodson, an older Kevin Greene, Roy Barker, with a porous secondary.

Mooch had to continue on post the shenanigans of Eddie D. and he being forced out of the NFL, and the leftover cap shenanigans of a piss poor drafts in then GM Carmen Policy. Mooch, a fellow Italian, was left with some real greaseball ####. Bill Walsh comes back as GM, signs Lawrence Phillips, Steve Young's career ends, and later, so does Walsh's final stint with the 49ers. But Walsh finds a QB who nobody wants, not even Mooch (who knows who is responsible for Gio Carmazzi over Tom Brady). Who he winds up with is Jeff Garcia. The anti Colin Kaepernick when it comes to everything physical, yet Kaep and Smith still fall short of his stature as a 49er QB.

Garcia's stats over 3 years as a full 16 game season starter: 84 TDs, 32 INTs for over 11,000 yards. Of course those stats reflect a lot of things I won't get into right now, like a defense that was horrid. Yet we are going into the final game of Harbaugh's third year as HC. I don't even have to post the paucity of the QB numbers over his three seasons compared to what Mooch had done over a few offenses. I'm not comparing Mooch to Harbaugh as HC's, but Mooch does deserve a lot of credit .

What I am saying is that Harbaugh has yet to install a passing offense that actually looks like a passing offense. He is thought of again as a QB guru, but compared to Mooch - who also coached Brett Favre - he falls short. It's not genius to win games with good defense along with scrub QB play. Hell, Singletary won games like that. With Mike Martz as OC. In some ways this is Mike Singletary's team with a HC who isn't stuck in an 80's gear of the NFL. Yet they both have had lemons on 3rd down in the passing offense.

Sorry for the Gekko post man, but this passing offense stinks. I just wish someone would call it out.

ETA: If Dennis Erickson had 2011 David Akers his first season as HC, he could had won the division too.

 
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BTW, in case hornet comes around and leaves more DNA on his keyboard:

Kaep is playing a tougher sched than Bottle Baby Alex. Just to let you know.

 
drummer said:
Sorry for the Gekko post man, but this passing offense stinks. I just wish someone would call it out.

ETA: If Dennis Erickson had 2011 David Akers his first season as HC, he could had won the division too.
Understandable that you're frustrated, but I think there needs to be a bit of perspective to go along with that frustration. But for a period of almost 25 years, we've had at least one HOF caliber WR line up on offense. If circa 2000-2003 TO were on this 49er team isntead of boldin or crabtree, would teams be stacking the box playing the run? Crabtree for as good as he has been with 'nick, has always had questions about his physical talent ceiling. The guy is no Rice, Owens, or even Taylor.

Mooch had a better offense, but you can say he's been riding the coattails of Favre and Owens his entire career. What did he do in Detroit? Let's not forget, the team that Harbaugh inherited was one that few considered "talented". And in the span of a couple of years with Harbaugh now it's suddenly one of the most talented in the league?

I think you are right in placing the blame on Baalke for really bad choices on O in the draft. 2012 was supposed to be the year the draft injected some athleticism into this offense and that was a complete dud.

'nick's season isn't over yet. Statistically speaking, last year's regular season Kaepernick was not THAT much better than this year's... and this year the niners have played all teams in the top 6 on defense. His playoff performances were about as good as you can expect coming out of the gates mid season, certainly you weren't questioning Harbaugh's aptitude for mentoring young QBs last season?

 
There's no question a passing offense that went most of the season with only 1 wr catching any passes is flawed. I'm still torn on whether that is Roman's or Kaepernick's fault but either way it isn't good.

 
As for the game yesterday, I have mixed feelings. I'm not terribly pleased that the 49ers let Arizona back into the game. But Kaep got two late game, time-pressured drives under his belt, which is needed experience.

So, what happens in Green Bay? I think the 49ers will be the favorites, but with Rodgers having been out for so long, I wouldn't be making strong predictions based on the packers of the past 6 weeks.

 
Going to be a fun game. Despite their apparent dominance of the Packers in the last 12 months, the games were pretty close.

 
Going to be a fun game. Despite their apparent dominance of the Packers in the last 12 months, the games were pretty close.
The two wins last year were pretty decisive. But I don't like them going into Lambeau against a pretty healthy packer team at all. Obviously they aren't an 8 win team with Rodgers at the helm. It's also pretty tough to beat a good team 4 times in two years.

 
Carlos Rogers - DB - 49ers


49ers CB Carlos Rogers will have a Monday MRI on his hamstring.

Rogers pulled up lame late in the Week 17 win at Arizona. It's a concern as the Niners will head to Green Bay to face Aaron Rodgers and the Packers' lethal passing attack on Wild Card weekend. The Niners gave up 348 yards to Matt Ryan in Week 16 and 407 to Carson Palmer Sunday. Eric Wright is Rogers' backup in the nickel.

Source: Sacramento Bee Dec 30 - 10:38 AM
The 49ers pass defense has been giving me heart-burn lately. With Rodgers and Cobb back, it looks like I will be breaking out the Tums again Sunday afternoon.

 
shadyridr said:
12-4 record and have to go on the road to Lambeau to face an Aaron Rodgers led 8-7-1 team. Fair system
Please, no fishing in the homers' thread.
Fishing? Im a 49ers fan and was whining
My apologies then... there's another thread about that, and since you haven't posted in this thread before, my initial thought was that the post was intending to incite us 49ers so everyone else could then point to this thread and call us poor sports... I'll take off the :tinfoilhat: now.

 
One more thing I liked about the game yesterday: Quinton Patton.

I'm not anywhere near mixing up any kool-aid, but I think Greg Roman and Kaepernick added a new wrinkle to future opponents' game planning by showing that he's not afraid to call Patton's number when it counts. (They went to him twice in the last 2 minutes, and Patton came up with the final big catch for Dawson's winning field goal.)

Defenses have to give at least a little bit of attention to one more option.

 
Going to be a fun game. Despite their apparent dominance of the Packers in the last 12 months, the games were pretty close.
The two wins last year were pretty decisive. But I don't like them going into Lambeau against a pretty healthy packer team at all. Obviously they aren't an 8 win team with Rodgers at the helm. It's also pretty tough to beat a good team 4 times in two years.
Packers aren't healthy at all at least on defense. They lost their best run stuff defensive lineman (Jolly) and Clay is out with thumb surgery. Brad Jones, another starting LB is out too though he's not that great. Yes Rodgers and Cobb are back but Rodgers is going to have to play a near flawless game for the Packers to have a chance. I don't see a gimpy Eddie Lacy carving up the 49ers defense.

 
12-4 is a damn good record for this team considering we played a first place schedule, lost our entire WR corps from last year, and had Kap regress.

I'm not as optimistic about this team as I was last year's team entering the playoffs. I would have much rather played the Bears, where Gore could have run for 200 easy. Pack is a damn good squad. I don't relish going into GB one bit.

I think we are a "one and done" this season.

 
Going to be a fun game. Despite their apparent dominance of the Packers in the last 12 months, the games were pretty close.
The two wins last year were pretty decisive. But I don't like them going into Lambeau against a pretty healthy packer team at all. Obviously they aren't an 8 win team with Rodgers at the helm. It's also pretty tough to beat a good team 4 times in two years.
Packers aren't healthy at all at least on defense. They lost their best run stuff defensive lineman (Jolly) and Clay is out with thumb surgery. Brad Jones, another starting LB is out too though he's not that great. Yes Rodgers and Cobb are back but Rodgers is going to have to play a near flawless game for the Packers to have a chance. I don't see a gimpy Eddie Lacy carving up the 49ers defense.
Lacy is going to make the niners at least respect the run. The niners have contained Rodgers in their last three games against the packers by almost exclusively playing in nickel and dime defense. They might be forced to change gears with Lacy's emergence.

As for the defense, it'd be hard for the packers defense to play any worse than they did in week 1 or in last year's playoffs, I don't care who is healthy. They'll benefit from being at home.

 
12-4 is a damn good record for this team considering we played a first place schedule, lost our entire WR corps from last year, and had Kap regress.

I'm not as optimistic about this team as I was last year's team entering the playoffs. I would have much rather played the Bears, where Gore could have run for 200 easy. Pack is a damn good squad. I don't relish going into GB one bit.

I think we are a "one and done" this season.
This guy gets it! :)

 
12-4 is a damn good record for this team considering we played a first place schedule, lost our entire WR corps from last year, and had Kap regress.

I'm not as optimistic about this team as I was last year's team entering the playoffs. I would have much rather played the Bears, where Gore could have run for 200 easy. Pack is a damn good squad. I don't relish going into GB one bit.

I think we are a "one and done" this season.
That's pretty pessimistic for someone claiming to be a Niners fan. I'm not saying it's an easy game, but SF is the favorite after all.

From what I've seen this season, this is the type of matchup that the Niners thrive in. The offense should be able to move the ball at will against Green Bay. OK, maybe I am saying it's an easy game and the Niners -2.5 is free money.

 
weren't the niners' last 2 wins over GB before the Packers (and other teams) figured out Kap and the read offense? Kap being the Kap of last year was a huge difference.

 
weren't the niners' last 2 wins over GB before the Packers (and other teams) figured out Kap and the read offense? Kap being the Kap of last year was a huge difference.
Did they not just go 12-4?
They did, but to me its a little surprising since it was in spite of Kap regressing quite a bit.
OK so what does that have to do with this game?
Like I said, in the last 2 games Kap running wild was a huge factor in the outcome. Now that the league as a whole has somewhat figured out that type of offense, it just makes it kind of interesting? :shrug:

 
As for the game yesterday, I have mixed feelings. I'm not terribly pleased that the 49ers let Arizona back into the game. But Kaep got two late game, time-pressured drives under his belt, which is needed experience.

So, what happens in Green Bay? I think the 49ers will be the favorites, but with Rodgers having been out for so long, I wouldn't be making strong predictions based on the packers of the past 6 weeks.
I didn't watch yesterday's game, lol. It wasn't aired in the local market. I watched GB vs. CHI, which I would have wanted to anyway.

 
weren't the niners' last 2 wins over GB before the Packers (and other teams) figured out Kap and the read offense? Kap being the Kap of last year was a huge difference.
Did they not just go 12-4?
They did, but to me its a little surprising since it was in spite of Kap regressing quite a bit.
OK so what does that have to do with this game?
IMO, I think it means that SF may not get the easy game they think they are getting.

 
weren't the niners' last 2 wins over GB before the Packers (and other teams) figured out Kap and the read offense? Kap being the Kap of last year was a huge difference.
Did they not just go 12-4?
They did, but to me its a little surprising since it was in spite of Kap regressing quite a bit.
OK so what does that have to do with this game?
IMO, I think it means that SF may not get the easy game they think they are getting.
They're going to Green Bay and taking on a Super Bowl Champion QB - I doubt that locker room top to bottom and def not the coaching staff is taking this game lightly, regardless of the last couple of games these two have played. In fact, Green Bay is prob looking for revenge & SF is aware of this.

 
weren't the niners' last 2 wins over GB before the Packers (and other teams) figured out Kap and the read offense? Kap being the Kap of last year was a huge difference.
Did they not just go 12-4?
They did, but to me its a little surprising since it was in spite of Kap regressing quite a bit.
OK so what does that have to do with this game?
IMO, I think it means that SF may not get the easy game they think they are getting.
They're going to Green Bay and taking on a Super Bowl Champion QB - I doubt that locker room top to bottom and def not the coaching staff is taking this game lightly, regardless of the last couple of games these two have played. In fact, Green Bay is prob looking for revenge & SF is aware of this.
Lacy is also light years better than any RB they have had the last few matchups. What string was Harris in last year's playoff game? 3rd?

 
The only reason I'm not as optimistic heading into these playoffs as last is the schedule. Having to play an extra game, having to go on the road to Green Bay and Seattle at some point if want to make the Super Bowl, makes this a much more difficult road. But just looking at the team and players, I feel better. I think the Niners are healthier than this times last year. Yes, Kaep has had his struggles, but I think much of it was due to lack of WRs and he's shown improvement once he got more options. I feel better about him because he has more experience.

 
The only reason I'm not as optimistic heading into these playoffs as last is the schedule. Having to play an extra game, having to go on the road to Green Bay and Seattle at some point if want to make the Super Bowl, makes this a much more difficult road. But just looking at the team and players, I feel better. I think the Niners are healthier than this times last year. Yes, Kaep has had his struggles, but I think much of it was due to lack of WRs and he's shown improvement once he got more options. I feel better about him because he has more experience.
Would you feel better if I told you San Francisco will be home for the NFC Championship game against the Saints?

 
The only reason I'm not as optimistic heading into these playoffs as last is the schedule. Having to play an extra game, having to go on the road to Green Bay and Seattle at some point if want to make the Super Bowl, makes this a much more difficult road. But just looking at the team and players, I feel better. I think the Niners are healthier than this times last year. Yes, Kaep has had his struggles, but I think much of it was due to lack of WRs and he's shown improvement once he got more options. I feel better about him because he has more experience.
Would you feel better if I told you San Francisco will be home for the NFC Championship game against the Saints?
I'd feel better if you told me Joe was starting at QB.

 
The only reason I'm not as optimistic heading into these playoffs as last is the schedule. Having to play an extra game, having to go on the road to Green Bay and Seattle at some point if want to make the Super Bowl, makes this a much more difficult road. But just looking at the team and players, I feel better. I think the Niners are healthier than this times last year. Yes, Kaep has had his struggles, but I think much of it was due to lack of WRs and he's shown improvement once he got more options. I feel better about him because he has more experience.
Would you feel better if I told you San Francisco will be home for the NFC Championship game against the Saints?
I'd feel better if you told me Joe was starting at QB.
Hopefully Kaep can wear his designer shades during the game in case the headlights spook him in while in the pocket.

 
5Rings said:
The only reason I'm not as optimistic heading into these playoffs as last is the schedule. Having to play an extra game, having to go on the road to Green Bay and Seattle at some point if want to make the Super Bowl, makes this a much more difficult road. But just looking at the team and players, I feel better. I think the Niners are healthier than this times last year. Yes, Kaep has had his struggles, but I think much of it was due to lack of WRs and he's shown improvement once he got more options. I feel better about him because he has more experience.
Would you feel better if I told you San Francisco will be home for the NFC Championship game against the Saints?
I'd feel better if you told me Joe was starting at QB.
Um, agreed? Yes, yes I would feel better if the greatest QB of all time was starting. Let's throw Rice onto the field too.

 
5Rings said:
The only reason I'm not as optimistic heading into these playoffs as last is the schedule. Having to play an extra game, having to go on the road to Green Bay and Seattle at some point if want to make the Super Bowl, makes this a much more difficult road. But just looking at the team and players, I feel better. I think the Niners are healthier than this times last year. Yes, Kaep has had his struggles, but I think much of it was due to lack of WRs and he's shown improvement once he got more options. I feel better about him because he has more experience.
Would you feel better if I told you San Francisco will be home for the NFC Championship game against the Saints?
I'd feel better if you told me Joe was starting at QB.
Um, agreed? Yes, yes I would feel better if the greatest QB of all time was starting. Let's throw Rice onto the field too.
With no Bruce Miller, they really should look into bringing Rathman back as well.

 
weren't the niners' last 2 wins over GB before the Packers (and other teams) figured out Kap and the read offense? Kap being the Kap of last year was a huge difference.
Did they not just go 12-4?
They did, but to me its a little surprising since it was in spite of Kap regressing quite a bit.
OK so what does that have to do with this game?
Like I said, in the last 2 games Kap running wild was a huge factor in the outcome. Now that the league as a whole has somewhat figured out that type of offense, it just makes it kind of interesting? :shrug:
Ummmm no.

Kaep's last 2 games vs GB

2012 playoff game: 17 for 31, 263yds, 2tds, 1int, 16rush for 181yds, 2tds

2013 week 1: 27 of 39, 412yds, 3tds, 0int, 7rush for 22yds, 0tds

He beat them with his arm AND his legs in 2012, and with just his arm in week 1 this season. Since that week 1 game, he never even hit 300yds passing in a game...however, his 2nd most passing yards in a game came this past week vs Arizona (292yds)...so maybe Crabtrees return is starting to show effects.

All that said, last season with all the injuries they had going into the playoffs (Justin Smith, Manningham, Kyle Williams, Hunter, etc), I figured they would be one and done, or maybe 2 and done...I never expected them to reach the Super Bowl...this year, they are pretty healthy, and I just dont see them making it to the SB...Kaep isnt the same threat with his legs, and the passing offense still stinks as a whole.

 
5Rings said:
The only reason I'm not as optimistic heading into these playoffs as last is the schedule. Having to play an extra game, having to go on the road to Green Bay and Seattle at some point if want to make the Super Bowl, makes this a much more difficult road. But just looking at the team and players, I feel better. I think the Niners are healthier than this times last year. Yes, Kaep has had his struggles, but I think much of it was due to lack of WRs and he's shown improvement once he got more options. I feel better about him because he has more experience.
Would you feel better if I told you San Francisco will be home for the NFC Championship game against the Saints?
I'd feel better if you told me Joe was starting at QB.
Um, agreed? Yes, yes I would feel better if the greatest QB of all time was starting. Let's throw Rice onto the field too.
With no Bruce Miller, they really should look into bringing Rathman back as well.
Rathman is there. You want him to suit up?

 
weren't the niners' last 2 wins over GB before the Packers (and other teams) figured out Kap and the read offense? Kap being the Kap of last year was a huge difference.
Did they not just go 12-4?
They did, but to me its a little surprising since it was in spite of Kap regressing quite a bit.
OK so what does that have to do with this game?
Like I said, in the last 2 games Kap running wild was a huge factor in the outcome. Now that the league as a whole has somewhat figured out that type of offense, it just makes it kind of interesting? :shrug:
Ummmm no.Kaep's last 2 games vs GB

2012 playoff game: 17 for 31, 263yds, 2tds, 1int, 16rush for 181yds, 2tds

2013 week 1: 27 of 39, 412yds, 3tds, 0int, 7rush for 22yds, 0tds

He beat them with his arm AND his legs in 2012, and with just his arm in week 1 this season. Since that week 1 game, he never even hit 300yds passing in a game...however, his 2nd most passing yards in a game came this past week vs Arizona (292yds)...so maybe Crabtrees return is starting to show effects.

All that said, last season with all the injuries they had going into the playoffs (Justin Smith, Manningham, Kyle Williams, Hunter, etc), I figured they would be one and done, or maybe 2 and done...I never expected them to reach the Super Bowl...this year, they are pretty healthy, and I just dont see them making it to the SB...Kaep isnt the same threat with his legs, and the passing offense still stinks as a whole.
Kaep passed for 310 this week.

 
5Rings said:
The only reason I'm not as optimistic heading into these playoffs as last is the schedule. Having to play an extra game, having to go on the road to Green Bay and Seattle at some point if want to make the Super Bowl, makes this a much more difficult road. But just looking at the team and players, I feel better. I think the Niners are healthier than this times last year. Yes, Kaep has had his struggles, but I think much of it was due to lack of WRs and he's shown improvement once he got more options. I feel better about him because he has more experience.
Would you feel better if I told you San Francisco will be home for the NFC Championship game against the Saints?
I'd feel better if you told me Joe was starting at QB.
Um, agreed? Yes, yes I would feel better if the greatest QB of all time was starting. Let's throw Rice onto the field too.
You guys want a date with Kate Upton to go along with all that? Just checking.

 
5Rings said:
The only reason I'm not as optimistic heading into these playoffs as last is the schedule. Having to play an extra game, having to go on the road to Green Bay and Seattle at some point if want to make the Super Bowl, makes this a much more difficult road. But just looking at the team and players, I feel better. I think the Niners are healthier than this times last year. Yes, Kaep has had his struggles, but I think much of it was due to lack of WRs and he's shown improvement once he got more options. I feel better about him because he has more experience.
Would you feel better if I told you San Francisco will be home for the NFC Championship game against the Saints?
I'd feel better if you told me Joe was starting at QB.
Um, agreed? Yes, yes I would feel better if the greatest QB of all time was starting. Let's throw Rice onto the field too.
With no Bruce Miller, they really should look into bringing Rathman back as well.
Rathman is there. You want him to suit up?
I like this new kid, Sleeping. :lol:

 
Would you feel better if I told you San Francisco will be home for the NFC Championship game against the Saints?
On a more serious note, Montana, Rice, Rathman, and Kate Upton notwithstanding, I heard yesterday on one of the broadcasts that in the super bowl era, the #5 seed has never hosted the #6 seed for the NFC Championship game.

 

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