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San Francisco 49ers 2013 thread (SEE NEW 2014 THREAD) (1 Viewer)

Would you feel better if I told you San Francisco will be home for the NFC Championship game against the Saints?
On a more serious note, Montana, Rice, Rathman, and Kate Upton notwithstanding, I heard yesterday on one of the broadcasts that in the super bowl era, the #5 seed has never hosted the #6 seed for the NFC Championship game.
It's a good thing they said goodbye to the 'stick in such epic fashion! :headbang:

 
weren't the niners' last 2 wins over GB before the Packers (and other teams) figured out Kap and the read offense? Kap being the Kap of last year was a huge difference.
Did they not just go 12-4?
They did, but to me its a little surprising since it was in spite of Kap regressing quite a bit.
OK so what does that have to do with this game?
Like I said, in the last 2 games Kap running wild was a huge factor in the outcome. Now that the league as a whole has somewhat figured out that type of offense, it just makes it kind of interesting? :shrug:
Ummmm no.Kaep's last 2 games vs GB

2012 playoff game: 17 for 31, 263yds, 2tds, 1int, 16rush for 181yds, 2tds

2013 week 1: 27 of 39, 412yds, 3tds, 0int, 7rush for 22yds, 0tds

He beat them with his arm AND his legs in 2012, and with just his arm in week 1 this season. Since that week 1 game, he never even hit 300yds passing in a game...however, his 2nd most passing yards in a game came this past week vs Arizona (292yds)...so maybe Crabtrees return is starting to show effects.

All that said, last season with all the injuries they had going into the playoffs (Justin Smith, Manningham, Kyle Williams, Hunter, etc), I figured they would be one and done, or maybe 2 and done...I never expected them to reach the Super Bowl...this year, they are pretty healthy, and I just dont see them making it to the SB...Kaep isnt the same threat with his legs, and the passing offense still stinks as a whole.
Kaep passed for 310 this week.
Well. Profootballreference had it wrong last night...the point is its nice to see him have a good game at the right time...hopefully it carries over to next week
 
Well. Profootballreference had it wrong last night...the point is its nice to see him have a good game at the right time...hopefully it carries over to next week
Kaep stepped up big time last post season and in the Super Bowl. He just has to get that last few seconds of the SB loss out of his head and not press.

 
Still all everyone talks about is the QB when the niners D this season is clearly not where it was for the past 2 years. CRogers and JSmith just aren't making plays like they used to. This game is going to be a shootout like the past 2 against GB. I think the niners are going to have problems with Lacy, who reminds me of a young SJax. Vernon Davis will have to be a factor as he was in week 1. Crabtree has shown some glimpses the past couple of weeks and he'll need to continue with it.

To be honest, I'm not sure why the niners are favorites in this game. Perhaps rodgers and cobb aren't fully healed? Maybe GB's defense is just really really bad? Either way I don't see the D stopping Rodgers and co. in Lambeau when they had a hard time containing a Julio Jones-less Falcons team at home. Somebody in that secondary really needs to step it up this game… yea I'm talking to you Brock and Reid.

 
The defense is in much better shape than it was during last year's playoffs. Rodgers will still be able to move the ball but there's reason to believe the niners will slow them down much more so than the bears did.

 
The last 2 games the Niners have been shredded for 348 and 407 passing yards and now they get to face Aaron Rodgers. I'd be more concerned about that than Eddie Lacy.

 
The last 2 games the Niners have been shredded for 348 and 407 passing yards and now they get to face Aaron Rodgers. I'd be more concerned about that than Eddie Lacy.
The packers have averaged about 50 yards/ game rushing in the last three meetings. Keeping the packers one dimensional is a big reason the niners have been winning the recent matchups.

 
My biggest concern is how poorly both lines are playing right now. Both lines should be advantages for us vs GB, but our boys got manhandled against AZ. Even the "weak" AZ OL beat up our DL.

 
My biggest concern is how poorly both lines are playing right now. Both lines should be advantages for us vs GB, but our boys got manhandled against AZ. Even the "weak" AZ OL beat up our DL.
I agree. SPecifically the O-line has been really bad. I think they rank near the bottom of the NFL in both pass and run blocking effectiveness on FO. Pretty bad considering it's been referred to as "one of the best" in the NFL.

 
My biggest concern is how poorly both lines are playing right now. Both lines should be advantages for us vs GB, but our boys got manhandled against AZ. Even the "weak" AZ OL beat up our DL.
I agree. SPecifically the O-line has been really bad. I think they rank near the bottom of the NFL in both pass and run blocking effectiveness on FO. Pretty bad considering it's been referred to as "one of the best" in the NFL.
I wonder if they'll let Iupati walk. They can't afford to give another massive deal to an offensive linemen if the line isn't performing like one of the best in the league.

 
chinawildman said:
My biggest concern is how poorly both lines are playing right now. Both lines should be advantages for us vs GB, but our boys got manhandled against AZ. Even the "weak" AZ OL beat up our DL.
I agree. SPecifically the O-line has been really bad. I think they rank near the bottom of the NFL in both pass and run blocking effectiveness on FO. Pretty bad considering it's been referred to as "one of the best" in the NFL.
You put Peyton Manning or Drew Brees behind that offensive line, and that offense improves dramatically to where the offensive line could be the best. The 49ers need a big time WR, and another RB to take some of the load off of Gore and Kaep. They have invested heavy in that offensive line for years with 1st round picks. They also play in a sophisticated offensive scheme. They went from Alex Smith's pop gun offense to Kaep's cannonball run and pass within a season and got to the Super Bowl. The O-Iine isn't the issue. It's the QB, WR's (outside of Boldin and Crabs), Vernon Davis, and Greg Roman who need to step up.

 
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chinawildman said:
My biggest concern is how poorly both lines are playing right now. Both lines should be advantages for us vs GB, but our boys got manhandled against AZ. Even the "weak" AZ OL beat up our DL.
I agree. SPecifically the O-line has been really bad. I think they rank near the bottom of the NFL in both pass and run blocking effectiveness on FO. Pretty bad considering it's been referred to as "one of the best" in the NFL.
You put Peyton Manning or Drew Brees behind that offensive line, and that offense improves dramatically to where the offensive line could be the best. The 49ers need a big time WR, and another RB to take some of the load off of Gore and Kaep. They have invested heavy in that offensive line for years with 1st round picks. They also play in a sophisticated offensive scheme. They went from Alex Smith's pop gun offense to Kaep's cannonball run and pass within a season and got to the Super Bowl. The O-Iine isn't the issue. It's the QB, WR's (outside of Boldin and Crabs), Vernon Davis, and Greg Roman who need to step up.
I understand your point, but I just dont think its the secondary player's (backup RBs and WR3-4) fault for the poor OL play. I'm also not sure I'm going to blame Kap's playing style either. I think he's bailed out these turds with his legs more times than he's held the ball too long.

This could be a huge vindication game for the OL

 
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chinawildman said:
My biggest concern is how poorly both lines are playing right now. Both lines should be advantages for us vs GB, but our boys got manhandled against AZ. Even the "weak" AZ OL beat up our DL.
I agree. SPecifically the O-line has been really bad. I think they rank near the bottom of the NFL in both pass and run blocking effectiveness on FO. Pretty bad considering it's been referred to as "one of the best" in the NFL.
You put Peyton Manning or Drew Brees behind that offensive line, and that offense improves dramatically to where the offensive line could be the best. The 49ers need a big time WR, and another RB to take some of the load off of Gore and Kaep. They have invested heavy in that offensive line for years with 1st round picks. They also play in a sophisticated offensive scheme. They went from Alex Smith's pop gun offense to Kaep's cannonball run and pass within a season and got to the Super Bowl. The O-Iine isn't the issue. It's the QB, WR's (outside of Boldin and Crabs), Vernon Davis, and Greg Roman who need to step up.
I understand your point, but I just dont think its the secondary player's (backup RBs and WR3-4) fault for the poor OL play. I'm also not sure I'm going to blame Kap's playing style either. I think he's bailed out these turds with his legs more times than he's held the ball too long.

This could be a huge vindication game for the OL
Kaep checks a lot of plays at the line. When he does that, it's on him to make the play. A lot of times he doesn't because he get's happy feet in the pocket. If a QB doesn't trust his line and breaks from that checked play, stuff ain't gonna work.

 
I think the 49ers pull out the win, even in the cold. But no matter the outcome, this game is going to take a lot out of either team. More out of SF because of the road trip.

Seattle may be the big winner here. Even if SF wins this game, they're going to be hurting afterwards, and I don't think New Orleans is going to beat Philadelphia.... which makes for a perfect recipe for Seattle fans to gloat about owning us one more time in their house.

Looking back on the season, I really hate Matt Schaub for that stupid mental pick-6 against the 'hawks.... if they win that game, SF is the #1 seed and Seattle has to go deal with all this mess.

/belly#####ing over. :)

 
I think the 49ers pull out the win, even in the cold. But no matter the outcome, this game is going to take a lot out of either team. More out of SF because of the road trip.

Seattle may be the big winner here. Even if SF wins this game, they're going to be hurting afterwards, and I don't think New Orleans is going to beat Philadelphia.... which makes for a perfect recipe for Seattle fans to gloat about owning us one more time in their house.

Looking back on the season, I really hate Matt Schaub for that stupid mental pick-6 against the 'hawks.... if they win that game, SF is the #1 seed and Seattle has to go deal with all this mess.

/belly#####ing over. :)
fantasyHUCKS already sent an email to the league offices about that. He thinks it's unfair how the Hawks won that game and got the #1 seed.

 
The league officials won't do anything. Neither will congress. Nor the president.

That's why I sent my letter to Chuck Norris.

 
I think the 49ers pull out the win, even in the cold. But no matter the outcome, this game is going to take a lot out of either team. More out of SF because of the road trip.

Seattle may be the big winner here. Even if SF wins this game, they're going to be hurting afterwards, and I don't think New Orleans is going to beat Philadelphia.... which makes for a perfect recipe for Seattle fans to gloat about owning us one more time in their house.

Looking back on the season, I really hate Matt Schaub for that stupid mental pick-6 against the 'hawks.... if they win that game, SF is the #1 seed and Seattle has to go deal with all this mess.

/belly#####ing over. :)
yes, that is the reason your 40 whiners didn't win the division. It wasn't that they got humiliated in Seattle 29-3 or that they lost at HOME to the Panthers and Colts. For goodness sakes, just be happy you got lucky beating the hapless Falcons at home also.

 
yes, that is the reason your 40 whiners didn't win the division. It wasn't that they got humiliated in Seattle 29-3 or that they lost at HOME to the Panthers and Colts. For goodness sakes, just be happy you got lucky beating the hapless Falcons at home also.
And you're so attention deprived that you have to respond in a homers thread, to a post that clearly had a level of jest involved. Have a great day, I hope you get laid.

I never said the 49ers should have won the division. But if you can't acknowledge that the difference between the #1 and #5 seed was amazingly narrow this year, you're a blind homer indeed. (And you could just as easily point at your narrow win over the Rams... but I. need. to .stop. feeding. trolls.)

More seriously, congrats. The Seahawks are for real this year. Enjoy it (but in your own thread, ok?)

 
yes, that is the reason your 40 whiners didn't win the division. It wasn't that they got humiliated in Seattle 29-3 or that they lost at HOME to the Panthers and Colts. For goodness sakes, just be happy you got lucky beating the hapless Falcons at home also.
And you're so attention deprived that you have to respond in a homers thread, to a post that clearly had a level of jest involved. Have a great day, I hope you get laid.

I never said the 49ers should have won the division. But if you can't acknowledge that the difference between the #1 and #5 seed was amazingly narrow this year, you're a blind homer indeed. (And you could just as easily point at your narrow win over the Rams... but I. need. to .stop. feeding. trolls.)

More seriously, congrats. The Seahawks are for real this year. Enjoy it (but in your own thread, ok?)
:goodposting:

Read the homer threads. Don't troll the homer threads.

 
My biggest concern is how poorly both lines are playing right now. Both lines should be advantages for us vs GB, but our boys got manhandled against AZ. Even the "weak" AZ OL beat up our DL.
I agree. SPecifically the O-line has been really bad. I think they rank near the bottom of the NFL in both pass and run blocking effectiveness on FO. Pretty bad considering it's been referred to as "one of the best" in the NFL.
You put Peyton Manning or Drew Brees behind that offensive line, and that offense improves dramatically to where the offensive line could be the best. The 49ers need a big time WR, and another RB to take some of the load off of Gore and Kaep. They have invested heavy in that offensive line for years with 1st round picks. They also play in a sophisticated offensive scheme. They went from Alex Smith's pop gun offense to Kaep's cannonball run and pass within a season and got to the Super Bowl. The O-Iine isn't the issue. It's the QB, WR's (outside of Boldin and Crabs), Vernon Davis, and Greg Roman who need to step up.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

The niners OL ranks 29th in run blocking, these are all plays involving runs by a running back. You can blame 'nick for maybe audibling into a few bad plays, but aside from that I don't buy it. They also rank 29th in stuffs, which is the RB getting tackled for no gain or behind the LOS, and 28th in power runs (3rd/4th with 2 or fewer to go). You can't blame the guys I've highlighted for these putrid numbers, this is strictly on the O-line.

 
My biggest concern is how poorly both lines are playing right now. Both lines should be advantages for us vs GB, but our boys got manhandled against AZ. Even the "weak" AZ OL beat up our DL.
I agree. SPecifically the O-line has been really bad. I think they rank near the bottom of the NFL in both pass and run blocking effectiveness on FO. Pretty bad considering it's been referred to as "one of the best" in the NFL.
You put Peyton Manning or Drew Brees behind that offensive line, and that offense improves dramatically to where the offensive line could be the best. The 49ers need a big time WR, and another RB to take some of the load off of Gore and Kaep. They have invested heavy in that offensive line for years with 1st round picks. They also play in a sophisticated offensive scheme. They went from Alex Smith's pop gun offense to Kaep's cannonball run and pass within a season and got to the Super Bowl. The O-Iine isn't the issue. It's the QB, WR's (outside of Boldin and Crabs), Vernon Davis, and Greg Roman who need to step up.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

The niners OL ranks 29th in run blocking, these are all plays involving runs by a running back. You can blame 'nick for maybe audibling into a few bad plays, but aside from that I don't buy it. They also rank 29th in stuffs, which is the RB getting tackled for no gain or behind the LOS, and 28th in power runs (3rd/4th with 2 or fewer to go). You can't blame the guys I've highlighted for these putrid numbers, this is strictly on the O-line.
It's also on the play calling- they are consistently running into 8-9 man fronts.

 
After GB kicked the FG, I knew this drive was win or go home. If Rodgers got back on the field I think he would've driven GB for the win. That was really Kaep's time to prove his worth, & he did!!

Great win on the frozen tundra... Kaep came through real big, two huge drives at then end of the game. The game winning drive some big 3rd down conversions, one stepping up and then finding Crab and the other using his wheels. I like what I saw... Sometimes I wish they'd rush more than four on def, but they took care business. Loved what I saw out of Gore too! Big catch at the end of the game (was that 3rd down too? I'm a little drunk) & ran well!

Lets go get some revenge against Carolina! Lets go Niners!!!!!!

 
thecatch said:
My biggest concern is how poorly both lines are playing right now. Both lines should be advantages for us vs GB, but our boys got manhandled against AZ. Even the "weak" AZ OL beat up our DL.
I agree. SPecifically the O-line has been really bad. I think they rank near the bottom of the NFL in both pass and run blocking effectiveness on FO. Pretty bad considering it's been referred to as "one of the best" in the NFL.
You put Peyton Manning or Drew Brees behind that offensive line, and that offense improves dramatically to where the offensive line could be the best. The 49ers need a big time WR, and another RB to take some of the load off of Gore and Kaep. They have invested heavy in that offensive line for years with 1st round picks. They also play in a sophisticated offensive scheme. They went from Alex Smith's pop gun offense to Kaep's cannonball run and pass within a season and got to the Super Bowl. The O-Iine isn't the issue. It's the QB, WR's (outside of Boldin and Crabs), Vernon Davis, and Greg Roman who need to step up.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

The niners OL ranks 29th in run blocking, these are all plays involving runs by a running back. You can blame 'nick for maybe audibling into a few bad plays, but aside from that I don't buy it. They also rank 29th in stuffs, which is the RB getting tackled for no gain or behind the LOS, and 28th in power runs (3rd/4th with 2 or fewer to go). You can't blame the guys I've highlighted for these putrid numbers, this is strictly on the O-line.
It's also on the play calling- they are consistently running into 8-9 man fronts.
Agreed, which is why I left him out of the bolded ppl… Good win today and niners showed a lot of resolve and toughness. Good to see the Crabernick combo coming to life again. I know Harbaugh loves those jumbo formations, but they need to wean themselves out of that. When they had Walker that was an effective set because they still had 2 legit receiving threats in Davis and Walker, but McDonald just hasn't filled Delanie's shoes.

 
Congrats to the 9ers on beating the Pack again.

Just have our number right now...and the fans on here know how to post and act without being tools that others can be.

Hats off...and GL next week, should be a fun game.

 
thecatch said:
My biggest concern is how poorly both lines are playing right now. Both lines should be advantages for us vs GB, but our boys got manhandled against AZ. Even the "weak" AZ OL beat up our DL.
I agree. SPecifically the O-line has been really bad. I think they rank near the bottom of the NFL in both pass and run blocking effectiveness on FO. Pretty bad considering it's been referred to as "one of the best" in the NFL.
You put Peyton Manning or Drew Brees behind that offensive line, and that offense improves dramatically to where the offensive line could be the best. The 49ers need a big time WR, and another RB to take some of the load off of Gore and Kaep. They have invested heavy in that offensive line for years with 1st round picks. They also play in a sophisticated offensive scheme. They went from Alex Smith's pop gun offense to Kaep's cannonball run and pass within a season and got to the Super Bowl. The O-Iine isn't the issue. It's the QB, WR's (outside of Boldin and Crabs), Vernon Davis, and Greg Roman who need to step up.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/olThe niners OL ranks 29th in run blocking, these are all plays involving runs by a running back. You can blame 'nick for maybe audibling into a few bad plays, but aside from that I don't buy it. They also rank 29th in stuffs, which is the RB getting tackled for no gain or behind the LOS, and 28th in power runs (3rd/4th with 2 or fewer to go). You can't blame the guys I've highlighted for these putrid numbers, this is strictly on the O-line.
It's also on the play calling- they are consistently running into 8-9 man fronts.
Agreed, which is why I left him out of the bolded ppl… Good win today and niners showed a lot of resolve and toughness. Good to see the Crabernick combo coming to life again. I know Harbaugh loves those jumbo formations, but they need to wean themselves out of that. When they had Walker that was an effective set because they still had 2 legit receiving threats in Davis and Walker, but McDonald just hasn't filled Delanie's shoes.
The Niners had a lot of success sending out 5 wr and just letting Kaepernick run. Sometimes it's just much more effective to run out of those spread situations and that is something it has seemed like Roman has had trouble recognizing. They did it today though and it saved their season.

 
Maybe I'm drunk, but I thought this was a horribly officiated game. No PI calls in the endzone in the 1st qtr, Crabs was mugged twice. NO holding calls all game vs the Packer OL. The most blatant was the reverse choke hold McDonald was put in when he was sacking Rodgers on 4th-2...right in front of the ump. Glad the refs didnt decide the game.

VD still doesn't seem to be his aggressive self, and I'm worried about PWilly missing tackles (or is Lacy that good?). I'm popping another. Cheers, Niner fans.

And cheers to the great Pack fans for a helluva game.

 
Maybe I'm drunk, but I thought this was a horribly officiated game. No PI calls in the endzone in the 1st qtr, Crabs was mugged twice. NO holding calls all game vs the Packer OL. The most blatant was the reverse choke hold McDonald was put in when he was sacking Rodgers on 4th-2...right in front of the ump. Glad the refs didnt decide the game.

VD still doesn't seem to be his aggressive self, and I'm worried about PWilly missing tackles (or is Lacy that good?). I'm popping another. Cheers, Niner fans.

And cheers to the great Pack fans for a helluva game.
They were not calling PI on anyone...which was good...let both team's DBs be physical.

I think the hold on the almost sack was just lost in the shuffle of Rodgers escaping.

 
Maybe I'm drunk, but I thought this was a horribly officiated game. No PI calls in the endzone in the 1st qtr, Crabs was mugged twice. NO holding calls all game vs the Packer OL. The most blatant was the reverse choke hold McDonald was put in when he was sacking Rodgers on 4th-2...right in front of the ump. Glad the refs didnt decide the game.

VD still doesn't seem to be his aggressive self, and I'm worried about PWilly missing tackles (or is Lacy that good?). I'm popping another. Cheers, Niner fans.

And cheers to the great Pack fans for a helluva game.
The officiating was consistent and I prefer the hands off approach to playoff games. Games played on "the frozen tundra of Lambeau Field" shouldn't be decided by flags anyway.

 
Maybe I'm drunk, but I thought this was a horribly officiated game. ...

The most blatant was the reverse choke hold McDonald was put in when he was sacking Rodgers on 4th-2...right in front of the ump.
That was horrible. Luckily, the Niners won despite that play. :)

 
Maybe I'm drunk, but I thought this was a horribly officiated game. No PI calls in the endzone in the 1st qtr, Crabs was mugged twice. NO holding calls all game vs the Packer OL. The most blatant was the reverse choke hold McDonald was put in when he was sacking Rodgers on 4th-2...right in front of the ump. Glad the refs didnt decide the game.

VD still doesn't seem to be his aggressive self, and I'm worried about PWilly missing tackles (or is Lacy that good?). I'm popping another. Cheers, Niner fans.

And cheers to the great Pack fans for a helluva game.
I only remember one time that Pwil was able to hit Lacy square and miss. But he was tackled immediately by Reid who stopped him cold right after. Bowman had a few missed tackles as well. Vernon did looked skitish until his TD grab. And that catch on 2nd and 8 on the last drive hit both hands and should have been caught, was a non factor after Kaep picked up the 1st next play anyhow. It was pretty bad officiating, in the sense that it seemed like only two flags were thrown all game and they let everything go. I am glad they did though, I prefer to not notice the refs are there. I do think they missed a few holds, but I also think that another crew throws the flag when Brock hits Nelson just before the ball gets there, so I think it went both ways pretty consistent.

On that last fg, was the guy who almost blocked it flagged for offsides? I couldn't catch what the ref was saying.

Great win for the Niners. Didn't give up the big play all game, but did let them dink and dunk, but overall the defense looked solid. Aldon did look like something was bothering him all game, glad he toughed it out. Brooks is the DMVP for our team right now. He's always making the big play.

 
Also, Cox was solid, but why did he play over Wright? Can't find anything about it. Will be good to have Rogers back for next week.

 
Also, Cox was solid, but why did he play over Wright? Can't find anything about it. Will be good to have Rogers back for next week.
Pretty sure Wright has his own hamstring issues. I'm not complaining, I think cox is the more complete corner at this point, Wright seems a bit contact shy plus Cox is a pretty decent punt returner should he be needed in that capacity. I believe the announcers said he was manning the slot and until the 4th quarter Cobb was mostly negated which meant Cox was doing a pretty decent job as nickel corner.

 
...and damn I'm gonna be a huge Saints fan this week.

GEAUX SAINTS
Because you're scared of earning a win?
I was rooting hard for the Pack this week. I'm not here to judge.
I don't get it. I was at a 49'er party and as soon as it was over they were #### talking about beating the Seahawks. Hi, we both have too win games next weekend first. :crazy:
So what are you doing in this thread then?

 
chinawildman said:
Spin said:
Also, Cox was solid, but why did he play over Wright? Can't find anything about it. Will be good to have Rogers back for next week.
Pretty sure Wright has his own hamstring issues. I'm not complaining, I think cox is the more complete corner at this point, Wright seems a bit contact shy plus Cox is a pretty decent punt returner should he be needed in that capacity. I believe the announcers said he was manning the slot and until the 4th quarter Cobb was mostly negated which meant Cox was doing a pretty decent job as nickel corner.
Yah, I thought Cox played really well, I was just surprised to see him out there.

 
chinawildman said:
seahawk 17 said:
proninja said:
seahawk 17 said:
5Rings said:
...and damn I'm gonna be a huge Saints fan this week.

GEAUX SAINTS
Because you're scared of earning a win?
I was rooting hard for the Pack this week. I'm not here to judge.
I don't get it. I was at a 49'er party and as soon as it was over they were #### talking about beating the Seahawks. Hi, we both have too win games next weekend first. :crazy:
So what are you doing in this thread then?
We have to remember that Hawk fans have never been here before and therefore don't know what to expect nor how to act.

 

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