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*** San Francisco 49ers *** Official thread (2 Viewers)

Shanahan weighs pros and cons of Wilks moving down to sideline

Shanahan, drawing from his own experience, explained the advantages and drawbacks of being positioned in the coaching box, away from the players during games.

"I think all that stuff's a little bit overrated," Shanahan said on KNBR's "Tolbert and Copes" show. "There's pluses and minuses to both. I was a coordinator for a long time, and I was on the field for eight of my nine years calling plays, and I was in the box one year. And I loved being in the box for that one year. And the reason was, I enjoyed having a chair and a desk, because you're thinking so much, you're writing stuff down, and, man, is it nice to have a table there, to have everyone away, and kind of always organizing your thoughts and writing stuff, and it can help you call a game better."

There are also significant drawbacks to being separated from the team, factors that Wilks will have to consider during the 49ers' bye week.

"There's also times that, man, I need to talk to this dude, and I don't feel like talking to him on the phone," Shanahan shared. "I need to look him in his eyes and have a conversation with him. There's stuff about that I missed. So, I don't ever think that's the answer or what's wrong."

"Now, I have talked to Steve about possibly coming down," Shanahan said. "One thing I do love about Steve is I think he's a man; he's a leader of men. And I would love, in some instances, to have him down there, to be able to address some guys certain ways, and things like that. And when you do that, there are always stuff you lose from being up top. So there are pluses and minuses to both."

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This is a great move by SF.. This will make their loss to Philly in the NFC title game less..
You have excellent command of the written word.
It's hilarious how some Eagles fans can't comment in here without throwing out jabs.

It IS possible to talk football with rival fans without being a hump, but whatever.
That's fine but then they complain about Dallas fans in their thread.

Just put the trolls on ignore :popcorn:
 
Popped in the Eagles thread and a few are saying Young is overrated. Lol.

Per Next Gen Stats:

Young has generated a career-high 17.2% pressure rate this season. The 49ers now have two of the top five defenders in QB pressures this season:

🔸 Nick Bosa: 41 (4th)
🔸 Young: 40 (5th)
 
Popped in the Eagles thread and a few are saying Young is overrated. Lol.

Per Next Gen Stats:

Young has generated a career-high 17.2% pressure rate this season. The 49ers now have two of the top five defenders in QB pressures this season:

🔸 Nick Bosa: 41 (4th)
🔸 Young: 40 (5th)
I think it's just because he hasn't had much impact in the recent Eagles/Commies games. Young is a strong get for you guys
 
Re: Cornerback situation

They have Samuel Womack and Darrell Luter, Jr both coming off IR soon. Maybe one of them can help the nickel slot issue. Womack has flashed, and IIRC Luter ran a 4.46 at the combine, so he has smothering speed.
 
This is a great move by SF.. This will make their loss to Philly in the NFC title game less..
You have excellent command of the written word.
It's hilarious how some Eagles fans can't comment in here without throwing out jabs.

It IS possible to talk football with rival fans without being a hump, but whatever.
I am not even a Eagles fan...Seriously it was a good move.. Watching the game Sunday, they def need pass rushing help.

That said, their backend of their D is still not there IMO.

I am sorry, I was joking about the loss to Eagles. I should have known after the way you were close to jumping off the Bay Bridge after Sunday's game, it wasn't a good idea.
 
I am sorry, I was joking about the loss to Eagles. I should have known after the way you were close to jumping off the Bay Bridge after Sunday's game, it wasn't a good idea.

You must be new here. After every loss I see red until the next day.

Also, I live in Tampa, so if I was gonna jump off a bridge, it'd be the Skyway.
 
Popped in the Eagles thread and a few are saying Young is overrated. Lol.

Per Next Gen Stats:

Young has generated a career-high 17.2% pressure rate this season. The 49ers now have two of the top five defenders in QB pressures this season:

🔸 Nick Bosa: 41 (4th)
🔸 Young: 40 (5th)
I think it's a little bit of both. Is he having a solid to good season this year? Sure, his next gen stats and 5 sacks show this.

Is he living up to the billing of being the #2 overall pick, for his career so far? I would say definitely not. It's usually a tell-tale sign when a team doesn't pick up the 5th year option on a player. Even more so when they were taken #2 overall.

It's honestly a little bit of both. But like I said in initially, it's a good move for you guys and an upgrade a position of need.

FTR, Young did kinda get the best of our LT Mailata for the 1st matchup, but this past matchup, that just happened on Sunday he had 0 pressures, 0 sacks, 0 hurries, 1 tackle.

Mailata is the #1 rated offensive lineman in football.


We will get to see what that matchup looks like and how it plays out in a few weeks. Should be fun!
 
Popped in the Eagles thread and a few are saying Young is overrated. Lol.

Per Next Gen Stats:

Young has generated a career-high 17.2% pressure rate this season. The 49ers now have two of the top five defenders in QB pressures this season:

🔸 Nick Bosa: 41 (4th)
🔸 Young: 40 (5th)
Depends on the Eagle fan, most can recognize talent on rival teams. Then you have one who claims Micah is overrated and can’t be found on the field most of the time.😂 But he’s so delusional that he basically begs for Hurts to fail so he can say “I told you so”. Weird duck for sure…🤓
 
Popped in the Eagles thread and a few are saying Young is overrated. Lol.

Per Next Gen Stats:

Young has generated a career-high 17.2% pressure rate this season. The 49ers now have two of the top five defenders in QB pressures this season:

🔸 Nick Bosa: 41 (4th)
🔸 Young: 40 (5th)
I think it's a little bit of both. Is he having a solid to good season this year? Sure, his next gen stats and 5 sacks show this.

Is he living up to the billing of being the #2 overall pick, for his career so far? I would say definitely not. It's usually a tell-tale sign when a team doesn't pick up the 5th year option on a player. Even more so when they were taken #2 overall.

It's honestly a little bit of both. But like I said in initially, it's a good move for you guys and an upgrade a position of need.

FTR, Young did kinda get the best of our LT Mailata for the 1st matchup, but this past matchup, that just happened on Sunday he had 0 pressures, 0 sacks, 0 hurries, 1 tackle.

Mailata is the #1 rated offensive lineman in football.


We will get to see what that matchup looks like and how it plays out in a few weeks. Should be fun!

He's overrated. He got nearly half of his pressures in one game against Chicago. Against good teams, for the most part, he's usually invisible. It's not like going to SF will make things easier for him pass rushing. Montez Sweat was having an All-Pro year on the other side of him in Washington, and the DTs in Washington are probably better than the 49ers. Young will do fine against bad teams and then when they play good teams you'll be like, "Is Young playing?" It's pretty telling when a team drafts you #2 and doesn't pick up your 5th year option. I'm sure next gen has a stat for that though.
 
49ers finally have the bookend for Bosa they've been missing since 2019.

Can't wait to see what Kocurek brings out of him
 
This is a great move by SF.. This will make their loss to Philly in the NFC title game less..
You have excellent command of the written word.
It's hilarious how some Eagles fans can't comment in here without throwing out jabs.

It IS possible to talk football with rival fans without being a hump, but whatever.
That's fine but then they complain about Dallas fans in their thread.

Just put the trolls on ignore :popcorn:
Oh I have 3 or 4 Eagles fans on ignore. Not gonna let random internet idiots ruin my time here. Couldn't care less what they think anyway.
 
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I’m glad for all of the input from Eagles fans in this thread. I wonder what there thread is like. Do they spend the whole time discussing the 49ers in there as well? Can anyone confirm?

It’s time to let go guys. You realize that playoff game would have went differently last year if the injuries didn’t occur. We all do. It’s okay. It’s a new year. Let go. We have. See you all soon.
 
My first thought when I read about this was Deion signing for the 49ers in 1994. Rent-a-dude for a ring. Yes Chase is no Deion, but Bosa far exceeds Merton Hanks. Bosa/Young is today's Deion/Merton. Not going to be easy.

I gotta feeling this is going to work out. All the Eagle crap about the Commanders mismanaging Young. Whatever. Randy Moss sucked when he went to the Raiders, and then he went to the Patriots. Good teams know how to get the best out of the best. The 49ers know how.
 
My first thought when I read about this was Deion signing for the 49ers in 1994. Rent-a-dude for a ring. Yes Chase is no Deion, but Bosa far exceeds Merton Hanks. Bosa/Young is today's Deion/Merton. Not going to be easy.

I gotta feeling this is going to work out. All the Eagle crap about the Commanders mismanaging Young. Whatever. Randy Moss sucked when he went to the Raiders, and then he went to the Patriots. Good teams know how to get the best out of the best. The 49ers know how.
It's nowhere near when the 49ers signed Deion Sanders for the '94 season FFS. Steve Young, Jerry Rice, Ricky Watters, Harris Barton,. Steve Wallace, William "Bar None" Floyd, Brent Jones, John Taylor, Ed Norton Jr, Eric Davis, Merton Hanks, Bryant Young, Lee Woodall...

It's not even close to it.

Because I haven't even included the Cowboys roster in 94.
 
My first thought when I read about this was Deion signing for the 49ers in 1994. Rent-a-dude for a ring. Yes Chase is no Deion, but Bosa far exceeds Merton Hanks. Bosa/Young is today's Deion/Merton. Not going to be easy.

I gotta feeling this is going to work out. All the Eagle crap about the Commanders mismanaging Young. Whatever. Randy Moss sucked when he went to the Raiders, and then he went to the Patriots. Good teams know how to get the best out of the best. The 49ers know how.
It's nowhere near when the 49ers signed Deion Sanders for the '94 season FFS. Steve Young, Jerry Rice, Ricky Watters, Harris Barton,. Steve Wallace, William "Bar None" Floyd, Brent Jones, John Taylor, Ed Norton Jr, Eric Davis, Merton Hanks, Bryant Young, Lee Woodall...

It's not even close to it.

Because I haven't even included the Cowboys roster in 94.
There was no parity back then. The salary cap was maybe in its first year. There were really only three teams to speak of in the NFC for pretty much all of the 1990s. That's no longer.

We are in an era where one signing can tip a very good team to a great team.

9ers were what, 3-4 before getting McCaffrey last year? They win out and they And they go to the NFC championship.

One player added to a pretty loaded team can make all the difference, especially these days.

And I don't like the 9ers. Wish I saw this differently.
 
My first thought when I read about this was Deion signing for the 49ers in 1994. Rent-a-dude for a ring. Yes Chase is no Deion, but Bosa far exceeds Merton Hanks. Bosa/Young is today's Deion/Merton. Not going to be easy.

I gotta feeling this is going to work out. All the Eagle crap about the Commanders mismanaging Young. Whatever. Randy Moss sucked when he went to the Raiders, and then he went to the Patriots. Good teams know how to get the best out of the best. The 49ers know how.
It's nowhere near when the 49ers signed Deion Sanders for the '94 season FFS. Steve Young, Jerry Rice, Ricky Watters, Harris Barton,. Steve Wallace, William "Bar None" Floyd, Brent Jones, John Taylor, Ed Norton Jr, Eric Davis, Merton Hanks, Bryant Young, Lee Woodall...

It's not even close to it.

Because I haven't even included the Cowboys roster in 94.
There was no parity back then. The salary cap was maybe in its first year. There were really only three teams to speak of in the NFC for pretty much all of the 1990s. That's no longer.

We are in an era where one signing can tip a very good team to a great team.

9ers were what, 3-4 before getting McCaffrey last year? They win out and they And they go to the NFC championship.

One player added to a pretty loaded team can make all the difference, especially these days.

And I don't like the 9ers. Wish I saw this differently.
Go back and tell us who the coaches were in the NFC that won Super Bowls before the Salary Cap was mandated.

Sanders was a shutdown corner that was signed for the reason of Michael Irvin alone. The 49ers defensive backfield is not near the '94 team, one can argue that the '94 defensive front 7 is better than current one in '23 even with the aqustion of Chase Young. Guess who the coordiantors were in '94? Ray Rhodes and Mike Shanahan. You're trying to compare this current team to '94 because of Coach Prime?
 
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My first thought when I read about this was Deion signing for the 49ers in 1994. Rent-a-dude for a ring. Yes Chase is no Deion, but Bosa far exceeds Merton Hanks. Bosa/Young is today's Deion/Merton. Not going to be easy.

I gotta feeling this is going to work out. All the Eagle crap about the Commanders mismanaging Young. Whatever. Randy Moss sucked when he went to the Raiders, and then he went to the Patriots. Good teams know how to get the best out of the best. The 49ers know how.
It's nowhere near when the 49ers signed Deion Sanders for the '94 season FFS. Steve Young, Jerry Rice, Ricky Watters, Harris Barton,. Steve Wallace, William "Bar None" Floyd, Brent Jones, John Taylor, Ed Norton Jr, Eric Davis, Merton Hanks, Bryant Young, Lee Woodall...

It's not even close to it.

Because I haven't even included the Cowboys roster in 94.
There was no parity back then. The salary cap was maybe in its first year. There were really only three teams to speak of in the NFC for pretty much all of the 1990s. That's no longer.

We are in an era where one signing can tip a very good team to a great team.

9ers were what, 3-4 before getting McCaffrey last year? They win out and they And they go to the NFC championship.

One player added to a pretty loaded team can make all the difference, especially these days.

And I don't like the 9ers. Wish I saw this differently.
Go back and tell us who the coaches were in the NFC that won Super Bowls before the Salary Cap was mandated.

Sanders was a shutdown corner that was signed for the reason of Michael Irvin alone. The 49ers defensive backfield is not near the '94 team, one can argue that the '94 defensive front 7 is better than current one in '23 even with the aqustion of Chase Young. Guess who the coordiantors were in '94? Ray Rhodes and Mike Shanahan. You're trying to compare this current team to '94 because of Coach Prime?
No, not what I'm saying. I'm saying the impact of the Young signing is possibly as impactful as signing Deion, just not as sexy given the equity that, seemingly, exists in the NFL today compared to then (never mind Deion was front page news for reasons outside of outstanding play).

Put another way, in today's NFL, it's rare to see an acquisition that strikingly tips the scale in your favor, but this, to me, might be one.

In 1994, when the 9ers got Sanders, in my mind, as a diehard Packer fan, the season was over. 9er Super Bowl was inevitable, and yes, he was signed to beat the Cowboys. Only difference was back then, there were three loaded teams in the NFC and it stayed that way for a decade.

We were only one year into free agency then. The League was top heavy, so a big signing meant adding a star to a roster of stars. Not true today, but a big signing can be impactful. It's not often you see the signing of an impact player that changes everything in today's NFL. I think this could be that.

Now the ***** in the armor is the Purdy question. The 9ers can do this because they're not paying for a superstar quarterback. Young, Aikman, Favre. We're a far cry from that.
 
My first thought when I read about this was Deion signing for the 49ers in 1994. Rent-a-dude for a ring. Yes Chase is no Deion, but Bosa far exceeds Merton Hanks. Bosa/Young is today's Deion/Merton. Not going to be easy.

I gotta feeling this is going to work out. All the Eagle crap about the Commanders mismanaging Young. Whatever. Randy Moss sucked when he went to the Raiders, and then he went to the Patriots. Good teams know how to get the best out of the best. The 49ers know how.
It's nowhere near when the 49ers signed Deion Sanders for the '94 season FFS. Steve Young, Jerry Rice, Ricky Watters, Harris Barton,. Steve Wallace, William "Bar None" Floyd, Brent Jones, John Taylor, Ed Norton Jr, Eric Davis, Merton Hanks, Bryant Young, Lee Woodall...

It's not even close to it.

Because I haven't even included the Cowboys roster in 94.
There was no parity back then. The salary cap was maybe in its first year. There were really only three teams to speak of in the NFC for pretty much all of the 1990s. That's no longer.

We are in an era where one signing can tip a very good team to a great team.

9ers were what, 3-4 before getting McCaffrey last year? They win out and they And they go to the NFC championship.

One player added to a pretty loaded team can make all the difference, especially these days.

And I don't like the 9ers. Wish I saw this differently.
Go back and tell us who the coaches were in the NFC that won Super Bowls before the Salary Cap was mandated.

Sanders was a shutdown corner that was signed for the reason of Michael Irvin alone. The 49ers defensive backfield is not near the '94 team, one can argue that the '94 defensive front 7 is better than current one in '23 even with the aqustion of Chase Young. Guess who the coordiantors were in '94? Ray Rhodes and Mike Shanahan. You're trying to compare this current team to '94 because of Coach Prime?
No, not what I'm saying. I'm saying the impact of the Young signing is possibly as impactful as signing Deion, just not as sexy given the equity that, seemingly, exists in the NFL today compared to then (never mind Deion was front page news for reasons outside of outstanding play).

Put another way, in today's NFL, it's rare to see an acquisition that strikingly tips the scale in your favor, but this, to me, might be one.

In 1994, when the 9ers got Sanders, in my mind, as a diehard Packer fan, the season was over. 9er Super Bowl was inevitable, and yes, he was signed to beat the Cowboys. Only difference was back then, there were three loaded teams in the NFC and it stayed that way for a decade.

We were only one year into free agency then. The League was top heavy, so a big signing meant adding a star to a roster of stars. Not true today, but a big signing can be impactful. It's not often you see the signing of an impact player that changes everything in today's NFL. I think this could be that.

Now the ***** in the armor is the Purdy question. The 9ers can do this because they're not paying for a superstar quarterback. Young, Aikman, Favre. We're a far cry from that.
He's a DE not a DB or a S. Or Fred Warner. Is he a nice cheap addition to a defense with an already stout front 7? Sure, but he's coming from a defense that was 31st in PA. WAS let him go because he wasn't going to be a franchise players like Bosa is with the 49ers. They let him go for a 3rd round comp pick. Sure he was a DROTY. So was Aldon Smith.
 
Popped in the Eagles thread and a few are saying Young is overrated. Lol.

Per Next Gen Stats:

Young has generated a career-high 17.2% pressure rate this season. The 49ers now have two of the top five defenders in QB pressures this season:

🔸 Nick Bosa: 41 (4th)
🔸 Young: 40 (5th)
It’s a meaningless stat. I’ve watched every Washington game for 30+ years. Chase runs by the qb too deep and gets credit for making him move up in the pocket a step He is among the least disciplined DE in the nfl. You can assume they will run at him as he vacates his gap responsibility time after time. Theres a reason we didn’t take his 5th year option. Which is unheard of for a 2nd pick in the draft. He makes himself look good while ruining the defensive structure.
 
Popped in the Eagles thread and a few are saying Young is overrated. Lol.

Per Next Gen Stats:

Young has generated a career-high 17.2% pressure rate this season. The 49ers now have two of the top five defenders in QB pressures this season:

🔸 Nick Bosa: 41 (4th)
🔸 Young: 40 (5th)
It’s a meaningless stat. I’ve watched every Washington game for 30+ years. Chase runs by the qb too deep and gets credit for making him move up in the pocket a step He is among the least disciplined DE in the nfl. You can assume they will run at him as he vacates his gap responsibility time after time. Theres a reason we didn’t take his 5th year option. Which is unheard of for a 2nd pick in the draft. He makes himself look good while ruining the defensive structure.
Is it good enough to be a late 3rd round pick though? Because that’s what we paid for him.
 
SF defense dropped in my league due to the bye. Any chance their defense returns to elite status with the addition of Young and a possible reset with coaching philosophy.?
 
Popped in the Eagles thread and a few are saying Young is overrated. Lol.

Per Next Gen Stats:

Young has generated a career-high 17.2% pressure rate this season. The 49ers now have two of the top five defenders in QB pressures this season:

🔸 Nick Bosa: 41 (4th)
🔸 Young: 40 (5th)
It’s a meaningless stat. I’ve watched every Washington game for 30+ years. Chase runs by the qb too deep and gets credit for making him move up in the pocket a step He is among the least disciplined DE in the nfl. You can assume they will run at him as he vacates his gap responsibility time after time. Theres a reason we didn’t take his 5th year option. Which is unheard of for a 2nd pick in the draft. He makes himself look good while ruining the defensive structure.
This kind of reminds me of when the phins paid a boatload for N Suh, only to see him just "do what he wanted" on the field instead of playing to the defensive structure. Perhaps having Bosa (I belive they were also teamates at tOSU) may make a difference there as well.

9ers loading up for a championship run. Looks like Eagles, Detroit, and SF vs the rest of the NFC

No one in the AFC did very much, so still Jax, Cinci, Miami, KC, and the Bills with the Steelers maybe playing spoiler
 
Theres a reason we didn’t take his 5th year option. Which is unheard of for a 2nd pick in the draft
Pfffft. We traded 3 firsts for a guy we took at #3 overall, he played about 16 quarters, and then we traded him to a hated rival for a 4th round pick.

Now THATS unheard of.

Look. We got an upgrade over what we have at that position, and we got him for peanuts. That's it. End of story.

Maybe he hated playing for a dysfunctional organization, in a dump of a city and stadium. Maybe being reunited with Bosa will bring out what made him such a high draft pick. Or maybe he will just be happy to be on a contender and will play better.

All I know is It's gonna be fun to see how it all plays out.
 
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I’m glad for all of the input from Eagles fans in this thread. I wonder what there thread is like. Do they spend the whole time discussing the 49ers in there as well? Can anyone confirm?

It’s time to let go guys. You realize that playoff game would have went differently last year if the injuries didn’t occur. We all do. It’s okay. It’s a new year. Let go. We have. See you all soon.
Feel free to come in any time! If you look, our page seems to have the most discussion by far than any other team! We discuss the Eagles mainly, but are not blind to the rest of the NFL and how are team currently stacks up.

The bolded seems to be a bit of projection, but thats ok. The Eagles were 3rd in turnover differential last season, 4th in INTs. You are confident had you had Purdy you would have won. I'm confident, given the fact he has a season under his belt and has like 6 turnovers the past 3 weeks or so, that we would have forced a few either way.

But you are right, new season and all. Congrats on the Young addition, he should make a difference, comparatively. Will see you shortly in Philadelphia! But until then, feel free to stop by our team thread anytime!
 
But you are right, new season and all. Congrats on the Young addition, he should make a difference, comparatively. Will see you shortly in Philadelphia!

If you're not a fan of the team the thread is about, please keep the discussion mostly to this.

The other teams dropping in and taking their little totally predictable slaps at the team being discussed is one of the more lame parts of this forum.

Everyone, please do way less of that.
 
But you are right, new season and all. Congrats on the Young addition, he should make a difference, comparatively. Will see you shortly in Philadelphia!

If you're not a fan of the team the thread is about, please keep the discussion mostly to this.

The other teams dropping in and taking their little totally predictable slaps at the team being discussed is one of the more lame parts of this forum.

Everyone, please do way less of that.
I'm not sure if you are reading this as sarcastic or not, but I'm being genuine. I said the same thing to wingnut. Its a good addition. But if those are the rules to only talk about the team in the team thread, I will follow them!
 
NFL QBR rank through Week 8.

1. Josh Allen
2. Patrick Mahomes
3. Brock Purdy
4. Justin Herbert
5. Tua Tagovailoa

Crazy that Purdy is still up there even after 3 sub par games.
 
I’m glad for all of the input from Eagles fans in this thread. I wonder what there thread is like. Do they spend the whole time discussing the 49ers in there as well? Can anyone confirm?

It’s time to let go guys. You realize that playoff game would have went differently last year if the injuries didn’t occur. We all do. It’s okay. It’s a new year. Let go. We have. See you all soon.
Feel free to come in any time! If you look, our page seems to have the most discussion by far than any other team! We discuss the Eagles mainly, but are not blind to the rest of the NFL and how are team currently stacks up.

The bolded seems to be a bit of projection, but thats ok. The Eagles were 3rd in turnover differential last season, 4th in INTs. You are confident had you had Purdy you would have won. I'm confident, given the fact he has a season under his belt and has like 6 turnovers the past 3 weeks or so, that we would have forced a few either way.

But you are right, new season and all. Congrats on the Young addition, he should make a difference, comparatively. Will see you shortly in Philadelphia! But until then, feel free to stop by our team thread anytime!
I’m unbothered by most of your all’s jabs (not from you) and I don’t care who posts wherever. I must have been in a mood when I posted what I did last night - which is out of character for me. I was being a bit sarcastic and myself and my elderly parents are dealing with a rough case of Covid at the moment so I’m not sure if it was conveyed in that manner. Anyway, I don’t know if the 49ers for sure would have won that playoff game last year without the injuries but I feel confident that it would have been a heck of a game. Sucked for the season to end on that note.

I actually like that Eagles team, in spite of the majority of their fans being insufferable 😉, and rooted for them during the Super Bowl. I always felt that the only thing that could possibly hold this 49ers team back this year would be injuries, but that hasn’t been the only thing, they gotta get the defensive side of the ball sorted out. There really aren’t any significant injuries there - they are just underperforming or Wilks’ scheme isn’t working or probably it’s a combination of the two. This offense, even when averaging over 30 ppg, seems to be fueled from the defense providing the spark. Be that from turnovers or a sack providing great field position.

I hope we provide a good game here in a month. I don’t think your team has looked as solid as last year’s but they are still winning - which ultimately is all that matters.
 
I’m glad for all of the input from Eagles fans in this thread. I wonder what there thread is like. Do they spend the whole time discussing the 49ers in there as well? Can anyone confirm?

It’s time to let go guys. You realize that playoff game would have went differently last year if the injuries didn’t occur. We all do. It’s okay. It’s a new year. Let go. We have. See you all soon.
Feel free to come in any time! If you look, our page seems to have the most discussion by far than any other team! We discuss the Eagles mainly, but are not blind to the rest of the NFL and how are team currently stacks up.

The bolded seems to be a bit of projection, but thats ok. The Eagles were 3rd in turnover differential last season, 4th in INTs. You are confident had you had Purdy you would have won. I'm confident, given the fact he has a season under his belt and has like 6 turnovers the past 3 weeks or so, that we would have forced a few either way.

But you are right, new season and all. Congrats on the Young addition, he should make a difference, comparatively. Will see you shortly in Philadelphia! But until then, feel free to stop by our team thread anytime!
I’m unbothered by most of your all’s jabs (not from you) and I don’t care who posts wherever. I must have been in a mood when I posted what I did last night - which is out of character for me. I was being a bit sarcastic and myself and my elderly parents are dealing with a rough case of Covid at the moment so I’m not sure if it was conveyed in that manner. Anyway, I don’t know if the 49ers for sure would have won that playoff game last year without the injuries but I feel confident that it would have been a heck of a game. Sucked for the season to end on that note.

I actually like that Eagles team, in spite of the majority of their fans being insufferable 😉, and rooted for them during the Super Bowl. I always felt that the only thing that could possibly hold this 49ers team back this year would be injuries, but that hasn’t been the only thing, they gotta get the defensive side of the ball sorted out. There really aren’t any significant injuries there - they are just underperforming or Wilks’ scheme isn’t working or probably it’s a combination of the two. This offense, even when averaging over 30 ppg, seems to be fueled from the defense providing the spark. Be that from turnovers or a sack providing great field position.

I hope we provide a good game here in a month. I don’t think your team has looked as solid as last year’s but they are still winning - which ultimately is all that matters.
Aww man dude, I'm sorry to hear about the folks. I wish them the best! Covid still is a bit of a thing going around and I guess unfortunately its here to stay.

And I'm with you about your team. They seem to be underperforming a bit, but still should get one of the top spots in the NFC, but in might be a battle with Seattle for that division. Lot of season left to play and hoping our squads stay injury free at least for our matchup later in the season. May the best team win that game. You guys got such a loaded team its hard to see them not turning it around.
 
Food for thought:

If the Niners don't go on a 3 game skid, they probably stand pat at the trade deadline.

Now we have a 3 down player opposite Bosa, which should allow for more rotations at DE on both sides.

And like fantasycurse said, he's got something to prove/play for. Just going from a bad team to a contender can do wonders for work ethic and attitude.

The move has almost zero downside and a ton of upside.
 
Nick Wagoner:

One takeaway from Lynch this am: they didn't want to deal a bunch of picks again this year. The Young deal made sense because of how the comp picks shake out and potential to recoup one if Young walks in FA. But SF increasingly top heavy salary wise and need to balance that out with young, cheap talent through the draft.
 
To get an idea of how far and fast the defense has fallen off, check out the graphs Here (upper right quadrant is where you want to be)

Top: Weeks 1-5. The 49ers are on the right (good pass defense) but below average with their run defense.

Bottom: Weeks 6-8. The 49ers are in the bottom left: Bad pass and run defense.

The constant: Below average run defense from a team that was a top-2 run D past 2 seasons
 
Hopefully Young will make an impact, but I found something alarming while looking for reasons for our run defense problems. This is from an article that came out just after we signed Hargrave:


Q: What's one area you'd call Hargraves biggest weakness?

A: Two things jump to mind here: run defense and consistency. Where he finished in PFF rankings among interior defenders in run defense:

He was 100th out of 142 in 2022.

He was 124th out of 129 in 2021.

He was 107th out of 133 in 2020.

As always, PFF grades must be taken with a grain of salt. And one must consider they graded him as a good run defender when he was more of a two-gapper in Pittsburgh. But it’s not difficult to envision why Hargrave could have issues against the run. Measuring in at 6’1”, 309 pounds (via Mockdraftable), he’s not the biggest interior defender you’ll ever see. Some offensive linemen will be able to control him.



Well there's part of the problem right there. He's just not good against the run. I couldnt find run grades for 49er interior D line for last season, but Im betting they rank way higher.
 
Popped in the Eagles thread and a few are saying Young is overrated. Lol.

Per Next Gen Stats:

Young has generated a career-high 17.2% pressure rate this season. The 49ers now have two of the top five defenders in QB pressures this season:

🔸 Nick Bosa: 41 (4th)
🔸 Young: 40 (5th)
I think it's a little bit of both. Is he having a solid to good season this year? Sure, his next gen stats and 5 sacks show this.

Is he living up to the billing of being the #2 overall pick, for his career so far? I would say definitely not. It's usually a tell-tale sign when a team doesn't pick up the 5th year option on a player. Even more so when they were taken #2 overall.

It's honestly a little bit of both. But like I said in initially, it's a good move for you guys and an upgrade a position of need.

FTR, Young did kinda get the best of our LT Mailata for the 1st matchup, but this past matchup, that just happened on Sunday he had 0 pressures, 0 sacks, 0 hurries, 1 tackle.

Mailata is the #1 rated offensive lineman in football.


We will get to see what that matchup looks like and how it plays out in a few weeks. Should be fun!

He's overrated. He got nearly half of his pressures in one game against Chicago. Against good teams, for the most part, he's usually invisible. It's not like going to SF will make things easier for him pass rushing. Montez Sweat was having an All-Pro year on the other side of him in Washington, and the DTs in Washington are probably better than the 49ers. Young will do fine against bad teams and then when they play good teams you'll be like, "Is Young playing?" It's pretty telling when a team drafts you #2 and doesn't pick up your 5th year option. I'm sure next gen has a stat for that though.
I'm a Commanders fan. This analysis is correct.

You might get some hustle out of him while he's still playing for his next contract. If you guys pay him now... You'll wish you'd kept the pick.
 

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