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Candidly, I do think you have been a little condescending. We can disagree respectively, which I’ve tried to do. I ceded a point to you above about some players not paying attention out of respectful conversation.
Haven’t discussed kicker. Obviously the extra point was huge, but he did come through with 2 50+ kicks. I’ve been on him all year, I’m a little torn.49ers checklist:
pass-rush firepower
Vet QB depth
Safety
O-line depth that can compete at RT
Center
Kicker
Nickelback
I don’t know about OC in title, but I’ve posted my concern about the brain drain on his staff a bunch of times . This team used to have McDaniel, Lafleur, Slowik, etc in that offensive meeting room. Losing another guy in Kubiak (one of them) to be NO’s OC this year. I know Griese is supposed to be good and reportedly Shanahan has talented young coaches beating down his door for opportunities, but Kyle needs to keep the cycle of smart folks running through to keep the offense fresh. The fact that Shanahan has maintained such a high level to this point even with the departures is another reason why he’s such a valuable coach.
His cerebral QB made it a point to know.
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It sucks Moody held the record for the longest SB FG for mere minutes.Haven’t discussed kicker. Obviously the extra point was huge, but he did come through with 2 50+ kicks. I’ve been on him all year, I’m a little torn.49ers checklist:
pass-rush firepower
Vet QB depth
Safety
O-line depth that can compete at RT
Center
Kicker
Nickelback
Besides the OT rule problem for the 49ers players not knowing, Shanahan admits he felt like it was a field goal type of game. That's a big part of why they lost, they weren't playing aggressively for a touchdown, they were settling for a field goal. Same reason he blew it with the Falcons against the Patriots in the Super Bowl.
Nope. Really bad take
Add Anthony Lynn to the list of departures (to the Commanders).
The first half of this post seems fair. Hindsight is 20/20. You could absolutely be right about that.Nope. Really bad take
A guy playing "not to lose" doesn't go for it on 4th and 4 when a FG ties the game
You also complain that he "didn't run the ball" enough. Threw too many passes. Not exactly a strategy of a coach who is playing "not to lose"
You're just trying to spin this to fit your narrative of "it's Shanahan's fault". He made a decision to take the ball and he certainly didn't play it conservative on that possession. If he goes for it in OT and they don't make it, I guarantee the same people bashing him now would be bashing him for not taking the points. The only TD KC scored in regulation was when they got the muffed punt at the 49er 15, yet you argue that you "absolutely" have to assume KC would get a TD in OT. That's just hindsight being 100 percent correct once again.
It actually was a FG kind of game. KC kicked 4 of them, including the game tying FG with 6 seconds left when they had time to run another play into the end zone. I was really surprised (happily) that KC was trotting out the FG team. The previous play to Kelce took only 4 seconds and I was relieved they didn't try it again. Imagine the grief Reid would have taken for that decision if KC hadn't pulled the game out.
MOP is 100 percent spot on in the above post when he says some of you have this imaginary standard that nobody can live up to. Again, some of it is just some kind of weird hatred of Shanahan beyond losing two close super bowl games. As an aside, I don't recall an OC being blamed for a super bowl loss like Shanahan is for the Falcons collapse. Usually the head coach is the one taking the grief, but not in this case. But willing to bet, had the Falcons won that game, that those same people would not be claiming that Shanahan had a super bowl title on his resume. Only the head coach gets credit for the titles but the OC gets the blame for the loss
Football is a great form of entertainment, but nothing to shed tears over.
Not being a Falcons fan, I can't really comment on that. Just saying that the Shanahan bashers who claim he is 0-3 in super bowls wouldn't be saying he is 1-2 in super bowls if the Falcons had won. Nobody ever credits coordinators for titles, just the head coach.The first half of this post seems fair. Hindsight is 20/20. You could absolutely be right about that.Nope. Really bad take
A guy playing "not to lose" doesn't go for it on 4th and 4 when a FG ties the game
You also complain that he "didn't run the ball" enough. Threw too many passes. Not exactly a strategy of a coach who is playing "not to lose"
You're just trying to spin this to fit your narrative of "it's Shanahan's fault". He made a decision to take the ball and he certainly didn't play it conservative on that possession. If he goes for it in OT and they don't make it, I guarantee the same people bashing him now would be bashing him for not taking the points. The only TD KC scored in regulation was when they got the muffed punt at the 49er 15, yet you argue that you "absolutely" have to assume KC would get a TD in OT. That's just hindsight being 100 percent correct once again.
It actually was a FG kind of game. KC kicked 4 of them, including the game tying FG with 6 seconds left when they had time to run another play into the end zone. I was really surprised (happily) that KC was trotting out the FG team. The previous play to Kelce took only 4 seconds and I was relieved they didn't try it again. Imagine the grief Reid would have taken for that decision if KC hadn't pulled the game out.
MOP is 100 percent spot on in the above post when he says some of you have this imaginary standard that nobody can live up to. Again, some of it is just some kind of weird hatred of Shanahan beyond losing two close super bowl games. As an aside, I don't recall an OC being blamed for a super bowl loss like Shanahan is for the Falcons collapse. Usually the head coach is the one taking the grief, but not in this case. But willing to bet, had the Falcons won that game, that those same people would not be claiming that Shanahan had a super bowl title on his resume. Only the head coach gets credit for the titles but the OC gets the blame for the loss
Football is a great form of entertainment, but nothing to shed tears over.
The second half I disagree with partially. Shanahan got a ton of credit for making Matt Ryan not just a top QB, but the MVP. How crazy is it in retrospect that “Matty Ice” was the league MVP? That season sure looks like an anomaly now eh? Clearly the reason for that success was pure Shanahan. I do agree that he gets an oddly large share of the criticism and the HC gets too much of a pass…..
That's fine. I have no real feeling either way.
I feel like it's more of a dig at Wilks, and probably warranted. I for one hope he's gone, he just isn't a good fit IMO.
That didn't take long.
Maybe. It's hard for us to tell how well prepared they were. I thought it was telling at one point in the second half when Shanahan saw the defense lined up in a formation for a big third down he didn't like and called a timeout to get out of Wilks' play call. Wilks just never seemed to connect with the team this year. He was probably the victim of unfair expectations, having to come in without any of his own people and assimilate entirely to the existing way of doing things, but it didn't click.
Shanahan on Steve Wilks: "It just ended up being not the right fit."
Fire Steve Wilkes just like Arizona, easy to make him the scapegoat as always
No, they are not penalized for firing a coach.
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I don't think they are making him a scapegoat. Salah and Ryans were younger, gung ho type guys. Wilkes was an older, low key guy. Tried it for a year and decided to go another route.
argument here though is who in the world would want that job? Shanahan doesn't seem like a guy to give up much control, the OC would be a dead duck sitting there. you could have an "offense advisor" like Lynn was, but again it may be tough to find someone who would be quality who would want that position, especially now
why in the world would a guy like Vrabel take a job like that, with Shanahan as the head coach. Especially seeing how Wilkes is the scapegoat like he was the biggest reason they lost the SB.
Wilks is the first DC under Shanahan to get fired, the other 2 left to get HC jobs. Wilks wasnt a scapegoat, he wasnt a good fit. With the talent they have on defense, why wouldn't a good coach want to go there? Theyre still an NFC powerhouse and SB contenders.
Yeah maybe. I just think the SF defense is certainly not the reason they lost the SB. You may get a good one depending on how SF can sell it, guess we will see.
