Saw Zero Dark Thirty (1 Viewer)

[jamil]

I thought it was pretty meh. I definitely found Maya to be annoying and some of her lines were .

I thought it tried to force feed Maya as the defiant hero. The very last scene when the guy on the plane says something like, "you're the only one on this plane, you must be very important", followed a little later with Maya crying was too cheesy for me and not needed.That said, I felt it was pretty good overall and in particular the final raid scene was excellent.

That was when she climaxed all over herself, hence the crying.

 

[DiStefano]

Good, not great. I was expecting the compound raid to be more exciting, but still am glad I went.

I loved that the raid wasn't overdone and was portrayed quite realistically.

Yeah, but I must have missed where they explained there were two backup Chinooks in case the helicopters ran into problems. From the movie, I thought they were going to have to all pile into one helicopter to get back, and all of a sudden there is a third helicopter there. So I had to go back and read about the raid, to find out they had two backups less than 30 mins away, close to the border.

 

[cstu]

Good, not great. I was expecting the compound raid to be more exciting, but still am glad I went.

I loved that the raid wasn't overdone and was portrayed quite realistically.

Yeah, but I must have missed where they explained there were two backup Chinooks in case the helicopters ran into problems. From the movie, I thought they were going to have to all pile into one helicopter to get back, and all of a sudden there is a third helicopter there. So I had to go back and read about the raid, to find out they had two backups less than 30 mins away, close to the border.

They never explained that beforehand so I too was wondering how they were going to get everyone out. Probably did this to create a little more tension during the raid.

 

[cstu]

I thought it was pretty meh. I definitely found Maya to be annoying and some of her lines were .

I thought it tried to force feed Maya as the defiant hero. The very last scene when the guy on the plane says something like, "you're the only one on this plane, you must be very important", followed a little later with Maya crying was too cheesy for me and not needed.That said, I felt it was pretty good overall and in particular the final raid scene was excellent.

I felt the complete opposite about that scene.

 

[sporthenry]

I thought it was pretty meh. I definitely found Maya to be annoying and some of her lines were .

I thought it tried to force feed Maya as the defiant hero. The very last scene when the guy on the plane says something like, "you're the only one on this plane, you must be very important", followed a little later with Maya crying was too cheesy for me and not needed.That said, I felt it was pretty good overall and in particular the final raid scene was excellent.

I felt the complete opposite about that scene.

Yeah, I guess you can sort of interpret her crying anyway but I thought it was an appropriate response. Her whole CIA career was to follow UBL so that was coming to an end not to mention, I think killing UBL sort of brought back the feelings from 9/11 and all the pain he has caused and allowed people like her to finally mourn.

 

[DiStefano]

Good, not great. I was expecting the compound raid to be more exciting, but still am glad I went.

I loved that the raid wasn't overdone and was portrayed quite realistically.

Yeah, but I must have missed where they explained there were two backup Chinooks in case the helicopters ran into problems. From the movie, I thought they were going to have to all pile into one helicopter to get back, and all of a sudden there is a third helicopter there. So I had to go back and read about the raid, to find out they had two backups less than 30 mins away, close to the border.

They never explained that beforehand so I too was wondering how they were going to get everyone out. Probably did this to create a little more tension during the raid.

Yeah, but they never explained it afterwards, either. All they needed was 5-10 seconds of dialogue.

 

[offdee]

I thought it was pretty meh. I definitely found Maya to be annoying and some of her lines were .

I thought it tried to force feed Maya as the defiant hero. The very last scene when the guy on the plane says something like, "you're the only one on this plane, you must be very important", followed a little later with Maya crying was too cheesy for me and not needed.That said, I felt it was pretty good overall and in particular the final raid scene was excellent.

I felt the complete opposite about that scene.

Yeah, I guess you can sort of interpret her crying anyway but I thought it was an appropriate response. Her whole CIA career was to follow UBL so that was coming to an end not to mention, I think killing UBL sort of brought back the feelings from 9/11 and all the pain he has caused and allowed people like her to finally mourn.

The guy said she was very important and would take her anywhere she wanted. Her entire recent life was UBL in a foreign country. She didn't have anywhere (or anybody) to go to, hence the crying.

 

[DiStefano]

I thought it was pretty meh. I definitely found Maya to be annoying and some of her lines were .

I thought it tried to force feed Maya as the defiant hero. The very last scene when the guy on the plane says something like, "you're the only one on this plane, you must be very important", followed a little later with Maya crying was too cheesy for me and not needed.That said, I felt it was pretty good overall and in particular the final raid scene was excellent.

I felt the complete opposite about that scene.

Yeah, I guess you can sort of interpret her crying anyway but I thought it was an appropriate response. Her whole CIA career was to follow UBL so that was coming to an end not to mention, I think killing UBL sort of brought back the feelings from 9/11 and all the pain he has caused and allowed people like her to finally mourn.

The guy said she was very important and would take her anywhere she wanted. Her entire recent life was UBL in a foreign country. She didn't have anywhere (or anybody) to go to, hence the crying.

To me, the perfect ending would have been for her to say: "I want to go home", thus bringing effective closure to the quest. By leaving it hanging, the director essentially left her hanging, with no quest left, and nowhere to go. Which may well be what she intended.

 

[tribecalledjeff]

I thought it was pretty meh. I definitely found Maya to be annoying and some of her lines were .

I thought it tried to force feed Maya as the defiant hero. The very last scene when the guy on the plane says something like, "you're the only one on this plane, you must be very important", followed a little later with Maya crying was too cheesy for me and not needed.That said, I felt it was pretty good overall and in particular the final raid scene was excellent.

I felt the complete opposite about that scene.

Yeah, I guess you can sort of interpret her crying anyway but I thought it was an appropriate response. Her whole CIA career was to follow UBL so that was coming to an end not to mention, I think killing UBL sort of brought back the feelings from 9/11 and all the pain he has caused and allowed people like her to finally mourn.

The guy said she was very important and would take her anywhere she wanted. Her entire recent life was UBL in a foreign country. She didn't have anywhere (or anybody) to go to, hence the crying.

To me, the perfect ending would have been for her to say: "I want to go home", thus bringing effective closure to the quest. By leaving it hanging, the director essentially left her hanging, with no quest left, and nowhere to go. Which may well be what she intended.

That would have been an awful ending. The entire point is that she doesn't know where to go. She doesn't want to go home. All she knows is chasing UBL and now that's over. As you said, she has nowhere to go.

 

[Apple Jack]

I thought it was pretty meh. I definitely found Maya to be annoying and some of her lines were .

I thought it tried to force feed Maya as the defiant hero. The very last scene when the guy on the plane says something like, "you're the only one on this plane, you must be very important", followed a little later with Maya crying was too cheesy for me and not needed.That said, I felt it was pretty good overall and in particular the final raid scene was excellent.

I felt the complete opposite about that scene.

Yeah, I guess you can sort of interpret her crying anyway but I thought it was an appropriate response. Her whole CIA career was to follow UBL so that was coming to an end not to mention, I think killing UBL sort of brought back the feelings from 9/11 and all the pain he has caused and allowed people like her to finally mourn.

The guy said she was very important and would take her anywhere she wanted. Her entire recent life was UBL in a foreign country. She didn't have anywhere (or anybody) to go to, hence the crying.

To me, the perfect ending would have been for her to say: "I want to go home", thus bringing effective closure to the quest. By leaving it hanging, the director essentially left her hanging, with no quest left, and nowhere to go. Which may well be what she intended.

That would have been an awful ending. The entire point is that she doesn't know where to go. She doesn't want to go home. All she knows is chasing UBL and now that's over. As you said, she has nowhere to go.

This. Plus a lot of women exhale after extreme stress with an emotional purge like that. I've seen similar over much less. I think the question just opened the floodgates and there was a lot of stuff in there. But my impression was that at the surface it was wow it's over and I don't know what to do now.

 

[offdee]

I thought it was pretty meh. I definitely found Maya to be annoying and some of her lines were .

I thought it tried to force feed Maya as the defiant hero. The very last scene when the guy on the plane says something like, "you're the only one on this plane, you must be very important", followed a little later with Maya crying was too cheesy for me and not needed.That said, I felt it was pretty good overall and in particular the final raid scene was excellent.

I felt the complete opposite about that scene.

Yeah, I guess you can sort of interpret her crying anyway but I thought it was an appropriate response. Her whole CIA career was to follow UBL so that was coming to an end not to mention, I think killing UBL sort of brought back the feelings from 9/11 and all the pain he has caused and allowed people like her to finally mourn.

The guy said she was very important and would take her anywhere she wanted. Her entire recent life was UBL in a foreign country. She didn't have anywhere (or anybody) to go to, hence the crying.

To me, the perfect ending would have been for her to say: "I want to go home", thus bringing effective closure to the quest. By leaving it hanging, the director essentially left her hanging, with no quest left, and nowhere to go. Which may well be what she intended.

That would have been an awful ending. The entire point is that she doesn't know where to go. She doesn't want to go home. All she knows is chasing UBL and now that's over. As you said, she has nowhere to go.

And she doesn't have a "home" to go to. She is essentially already "home" when sitting inside that plane.

 

[sporthenry]

I thought it was pretty meh. I definitely found Maya to be annoying and some of her lines were .

I thought it tried to force feed Maya as the defiant hero. The very last scene when the guy on the plane says something like, "you're the only one on this plane, you must be very important", followed a little later with Maya crying was too cheesy for me and not needed.That said, I felt it was pretty good overall and in particular the final raid scene was excellent.

I felt the complete opposite about that scene.

Yeah, I guess you can sort of interpret her crying anyway but I thought it was an appropriate response. Her whole CIA career was to follow UBL so that was coming to an end not to mention, I think killing UBL sort of brought back the feelings from 9/11 and all the pain he has caused and allowed people like her to finally mourn.

The guy said she was very important and would take her anywhere she wanted. Her entire recent life was UBL in a foreign country. She didn't have anywhere (or anybody) to go to, hence the crying.

To me, the perfect ending would have been for her to say: "I want to go home", thus bringing effective closure to the quest. By leaving it hanging, the director essentially left her hanging, with no quest left, and nowhere to go. Which may well be what she intended.

That would have been an awful ending. The entire point is that she doesn't know where to go. She doesn't want to go home. All she knows is chasing UBL and now that's over. As you said, she has nowhere to go.

I don't think people can claim with certainty why she was crying. It was set this way so it was open for interpretation. Perhaps she was crying for all the friends she lost while chasing UBL? You can interpret it anyway you want, hence probably why it was a good ending if you like that stuff.

 

[DiStefano]

I thought it was pretty meh. I definitely found Maya to be annoying and some of her lines were .

I thought it tried to force feed Maya as the defiant hero. The very last scene when the guy on the plane says something like, "you're the only one on this plane, you must be very important", followed a little later with Maya crying was too cheesy for me and not needed.That said, I felt it was pretty good overall and in particular the final raid scene was excellent.

I felt the complete opposite about that scene.

Yeah, I guess you can sort of interpret her crying anyway but I thought it was an appropriate response. Her whole CIA career was to follow UBL so that was coming to an end not to mention, I think killing UBL sort of brought back the feelings from 9/11 and all the pain he has caused and allowed people like her to finally mourn.

The guy said she was very important and would take her anywhere she wanted. Her entire recent life was UBL in a foreign country. She didn't have anywhere (or anybody) to go to, hence the crying.

To me, the perfect ending would have been for her to say: "I want to go home", thus bringing effective closure to the quest. By leaving it hanging, the director essentially left her hanging, with no quest left, and nowhere to go. Which may well be what she intended.

That would have been an awful ending. The entire point is that she doesn't know where to go. She doesn't want to go home. All she knows is chasing UBL and now that's over. As you said, she has nowhere to go.

And she doesn't have a "home" to go to. She is essentially already "home" when sitting inside that plane.

Well, I disagree; all soldiers want to go home when the battle is ended. But I agree with you that the ending is what the director wanted, for the reasons you state.

 

[cstu]

I thought it was pretty meh. I definitely found Maya to be annoying and some of her lines were .

I thought it tried to force feed Maya as the defiant hero. The very last scene when the guy on the plane says something like, "you're the only one on this plane, you must be very important", followed a little later with Maya crying was too cheesy for me and not needed.That said, I felt it was pretty good overall and in particular the final raid scene was excellent.

I felt the complete opposite about that scene.

Yeah, I guess you can sort of interpret her crying anyway but I thought it was an appropriate response. Her whole CIA career was to follow UBL so that was coming to an end not to mention, I think killing UBL sort of brought back the feelings from 9/11 and all the pain he has caused and allowed people like her to finally mourn.

The guy said she was very important and would take her anywhere she wanted. Her entire recent life was UBL in a foreign country. She didn't have anywhere (or anybody) to go to, hence the crying.

To me, the perfect ending would have been for her to say: "I want to go home", thus bringing effective closure to the quest. By leaving it hanging, the director essentially left her hanging, with no quest left, and nowhere to go. Which may well be what she intended.

That would have been an awful ending. The entire point is that she doesn't know where to go. She doesn't want to go home. All she knows is chasing UBL and now that's over. As you said, she has nowhere to go.

I don't think people can claim with certainty why she was crying. It was set this way so it was open for interpretation. Perhaps she was crying for all the friends she lost while chasing UBL? You can interpret it anyway you want, hence probably why it was a good ending if you like that stuff.

The great thing about the ending is that there are so many reasons she'd be crying - happy over getting UBL, sad thinking about 9/11 and all the people who have been killed/tortured since and sad that she's going back with nothing to go home to.

 

[dgreen]

I thought it was pretty meh. I definitely found Maya to be annoying and some of her lines were .

I thought it tried to force feed Maya as the defiant hero. The very last scene when the guy on the plane says something like, "you're the only one on this plane, you must be very important", followed a little later with Maya crying was too cheesy for me and not needed.That said, I felt it was pretty good overall and in particular the final raid scene was excellent.

I felt the complete opposite about that scene.

Yeah, I guess you can sort of interpret her crying anyway but I thought it was an appropriate response. Her whole CIA career was to follow UBL so that was coming to an end not to mention, I think killing UBL sort of brought back the feelings from 9/11 and all the pain he has caused and allowed people like her to finally mourn.

The guy said she was very important and would take her anywhere she wanted. Her entire recent life was UBL in a foreign country. She didn't have anywhere (or anybody) to go to, hence the crying.

To me, the perfect ending would have been for her to say: "I want to go home", thus bringing effective closure to the quest. By leaving it hanging, the director essentially left her hanging, with no quest left, and nowhere to go. Which may well be what she intended.

That would have been an awful ending. The entire point is that she doesn't know where to go. She doesn't want to go home. All she knows is chasing UBL and now that's over. As you said, she has nowhere to go.

I don't think people can claim with certainty why she was crying. It was set this way so it was open for interpretation. Perhaps she was crying for all the friends she lost while chasing UBL? You can interpret it anyway you want, hence probably why it was a good ending if you like that stuff.

While I think Maya was mostly annoying, I liked the ending. I liked her in the beginning of the movie and the end. The middle was when she was annoying.I was fine with her gaining more confidence and being portrayed as someone who is good at what she does. But, a couple of her lines were just downright horrible. Saying "I'm the mother####er who found this place" and "You're going to kill him for me" just had me .

I'd like to think I'm not being sexist, but maybe I am. Maybe I would have been more ok with those lines if it was a man saying them, but I really think they were just lame and portrayed someone who thought the entire campaign was all about her. If she really said things like that and it accurately portrays who she was, then so be it. It just took away from the movie for me.

 

[cstu]

Well, I disagree; all soldiers want to go home when the battle is ended. But I agree with you that the ending is what the director wanted, for the reasons you state.

This is basically what The Hurt Locker was about so I assume she disagrees.

 

[sporthenry]

I thought it was pretty meh. I definitely found Maya to be annoying and some of her lines were .

I thought it tried to force feed Maya as the defiant hero. The very last scene when the guy on the plane says something like, "you're the only one on this plane, you must be very important", followed a little later with Maya crying was too cheesy for me and not needed.That said, I felt it was pretty good overall and in particular the final raid scene was excellent.

I felt the complete opposite about that scene.

Yeah, I guess you can sort of interpret her crying anyway but I thought it was an appropriate response. Her whole CIA career was to follow UBL so that was coming to an end not to mention, I think killing UBL sort of brought back the feelings from 9/11 and all the pain he has caused and allowed people like her to finally mourn.

The guy said she was very important and would take her anywhere she wanted. Her entire recent life was UBL in a foreign country. She didn't have anywhere (or anybody) to go to, hence the crying.

To me, the perfect ending would have been for her to say: "I want to go home", thus bringing effective closure to the quest. By leaving it hanging, the director essentially left her hanging, with no quest left, and nowhere to go. Which may well be what she intended.

That would have been an awful ending. The entire point is that she doesn't know where to go. She doesn't want to go home. All she knows is chasing UBL and now that's over. As you said, she has nowhere to go.

And she doesn't have a "home" to go to. She is essentially already "home" when sitting inside that plane.

And just to add on. She does have a home to go to because she had been in Washington for several months at the very least. I forget if she got back exactly as she started writing on the wall or not but either way, she was home for at least 120 days. And are we to assume that after all this time, all she does all day is chase Abu Ahmed? Yes, her overarching thing has been going after UBL but in order to get to UBL, this also required going after other top al-Qaeda leaders of which that is still relevant. Perhaps she is crying because this is a chapter done, but this whole, she doesn't know where to go or what to do seems kinda basic. Where is she going to go? She is going to go back to Langley/Washington DC where she'll get thanked for her service and meet the President. Then, she can either move on or continue to hunt top al-Qaeda leaders and work her way up the ladder.

 

[cstu]

While I think Maya was mostly annoying, I liked the ending. I liked her in the beginning of the movie and the end. The middle was when she was annoying.I was fine with her gaining more confidence and being portrayed as someone who is good at what she does. But, a couple of her lines were just downright horrible. Saying "I'm the mother####er who found this place" and "You're going to kill him for me" just had me .I'd like to think I'm not being sexist, but maybe I am. Maybe I would have been more ok with those lines if it was a man saying them, but I really think they were just lame and portrayed someone who thought the entire campaign was all about her. If she really said things like that and it accurately portrays who she was, then so be it. It just took away from the movie for me.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[FlapJacks]

I liked it a lot. How on earth Argo is winning awards over this is beyond me. Not that I think ZD30 should be winning Best Picture but they are somewhat similar movies and ZD30 has far more depth to it than Argo.

politics

 

[mr roboto]

While I think Maya was mostly annoying, I liked the ending. I liked her in the beginning of the movie and the end. The middle was when she was annoying.I was fine with her gaining more confidence and being portrayed as someone who is good at what she does. But, a couple of her lines were just downright horrible. Saying "I'm the mother####er who found this place" and "You're going to kill him for me" just had me .I'd like to think I'm not being sexist, but maybe I am. Maybe I would have been more ok with those lines if it was a man saying them, but I really think they were just lame and portrayed someone who thought the entire campaign was all about her. If she really said things like that and it accurately portrays who she was, then so be it. It just took away from the movie for me.

My thoughts exactly.

Ok, good. So I'm not the only one. I won't go as far as GG (although what an interesting take) but the Maya character was so strong and driven, she's a caricature. Way too 1 dimensional. In fact, I almost feel like Jessica (who died in the explosion) was shown more as an 'emotional' woman who Maya was constantly showing up. Remember the conversation about money, how Maya claimed that the Al Qeada terrorists wouldn't be motivated by it? Well, Jessica set up a meeting with the doctor predicated on money being a motivating factor. She's so excited that she calls off military protocol and checklists. BAM!!!Maybe that's what happened. Maybe it is true that you have to be single-minded and basically eat, sleep and breathe a job like that. But it sure did feel like there was a feminist current running throughout.ETA: Having said that, I really enjoyed this movie. I thought for the most part Maya was compelling if a bit flat. Better than Argo. Not better than Lincoln.

 

[Apple Jack]

I got the feeling those two lines that came off as cringe-worthy in a movie context were actually said. What little I've read about her paints a picture of somebody who could say those things. She's apparently pissed off a lot of people in the CIA in her time there and was recently denied a promotion. You'd probably have to be a special brand of ###hole to find Bin Laden and not get at least a courtesy title bump.

And I don't think she gained confidence, I think she was overflowing with confidence when she got to Pakistan. At least as portrayed in the film. For starters, she told the station chief on her way in the door flat out that she didn't want to be there. That's not a woman lacking in confidence.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I forget where I read it now, but some ex analysts said that Maya was an amalgam of a bunch of women that had been working the Al Qaeda file as early as the mid 1990s called 'the Sisterhood'.

Both Seals (the one that wrote the book and the one from the article 'The Shooter') claim that the portrayal of her is pretty accurate though. She did tell them 'It's 100% he's there' and was so adamant that they believed her. Also, she really was at the base when they returned with the body. The guy who shot OBL actually gave the rest of the clip from his weapon, which is pretty awesome.

 

[Raider Nation]

Started to watch this the other day. After watching them torture a guy for a half hour ( ), I tapped out.

Did I miss anything?

 

[flapgreen]

Fantastic movie.

 

[mr roboto]

Did the torture scenes really bother people that much? It's a movie.

 

[Raider Nation]

Did the torture scenes really bother people that much? It's a movie.

"Bother" isn't the right word. It just got old fast. We got the point.

 

[mr roboto]

Did the torture scenes really bother people that much? It's a movie.

"Bother" isn't the right word. It just got old fast. We got the point.

I know. But part of the controversy was the torture scenes.

 

[Tom Hagen]

Started to watch this the other day. After watching them torture a guy for a half hour ( ), I tapped out.Did I miss anything?

Spoiler

bin Laden dies

 

[flapgreen]

Put him in the box!

 

[Apple Jack]

Did the torture scenes really bother people that much? It's a movie.

"Bother" isn't the right word. It just got old fast. We got the point.

I know. But part of the controversy was the torture scenes.

They only controversy I've seen was not about people finding the scenes off-putting, but anti-torture people saying that the film glorified torture by showing it as instrumental in getting him.I don't recall the torture scenes being any longer than what made sense for the story.

Put him in the box!

My worst nightmare.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Did the torture scenes really bother people that much? It's a movie.

I didn't think they were overdone or that there were too many.

 

[mr roboto]

Did the torture scenes really bother people that much? It's a movie.

"Bother" isn't the right word. It just got old fast. We got the point.

I know. But part of the controversy was the torture scenes.

They only controversy I've seen was not about people finding the scenes off-putting, but anti-torture people saying that the film glorified torture by showing it as instrumental in getting him.I don't recall the torture scenes being any longer than what made sense for the story.

Put him in the box!

My worst nightmare.

Makes sense. Did the film accurately portray the cause of intel leading to UBL coming from the detainee program? If so, then it's just the way it happened.

 

[DiStefano]

I'm ok with people saying we shouldn't torture. We probably should not. I would like to think that we didn't.

What I am not ok with is people saying that torture never yields anything worthwhile. Maybe not always, but I'm sure it sometimes does.

 

[flapgreen]

Did the torture scenes really bother people that much? It's a movie.

I didn't think they were overdone or that there were too many.

Much less gruesome than most movies.

 

[beer 302]

Did the torture scenes really bother people that much? It's a movie.

"Bother" isn't the right word. It just got old fast. We got the point.

I know. But part of the controversy was the torture scenes.

But the same people sit through Saw 7 and enjoy it

 

[Fennis]

Did the torture scenes really bother people that much? It's a movie.

"Bother" isn't the right word. It just got old fast. We got the point.

I know. But part of the controversy was the torture scenes.

But the same people sit through Saw 7 and enjoy it

The torture controversy for the movie had nothing to do with showing torture.

 

[beer 302]

Did the torture scenes really bother people that much? It's a movie.

"Bother" isn't the right word. It just got old fast. We got the point.

I know. But part of the controversy was the torture scenes.

But the same people sit through Saw 7 and enjoy it

The torture controversy for the movie had nothing to do with showing torture.

Yea I realize we are talking about 2 different controversies, thanks for pointing it out

 

[Apple Jack]

Did the torture scenes really bother people that much? It's a movie.

"Bother" isn't the right word. It just got old fast. We got the point.

I know. But part of the controversy was the torture scenes.

But the same people sit through Saw 7 and enjoy it

The torture controversy for the movie had nothing to do with showing torture.

Yea I realize we are talking about 2 different controversies, thanks for pointing it out

You're still missing it.

 

[beer 302]

Did the torture scenes really bother people that much? It's a movie.

"Bother" isn't the right word. It just got old fast. We got the point.

I know. But part of the controversy was the torture scenes.

But the same people sit through Saw 7 and enjoy it

The torture controversy for the movie had nothing to do with showing torture.

Yea I realize we are talking about 2 different controversies, thanks for pointing it out

You're still missing it.

So are you

 

[Apple Jack]

I watched it for the second time last night. It's better than I thought and now probably my favorite from last year, and Chastain is better than I gave her credit for. I also was confused with the helicopters the first time due to them not showing or even mentioning backup helicopters, knowing that the real life backups were Chinooks, and then them having a third stealth (which I wasn't sure was a third or a second the first time) unload more assets. That made the raid a bit disorienting on first watch. Great flick.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

The "Easter bunny" brought me this & Lincoln tonight. Excellent flick so far. Almost raid time....

Maya is pretty attractive.

ETA: I thought this was excellent. My heart was pounding away during the compound raid. Fantastic.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

I let my 10-year-old watch Die Hard. Child abuse?

was it Die Hard 3? If so, I am making a citizens arrest that you made him watch that POS.

I think you meant Die Hard 4. Die Hard 3 is better than 2.

The first 3 are all awesome. Yeah, I said it.

 

[lumpy19]

Finally watched this last night, really enjoyed the movie. The raid scene was so intense, loved it.

 

[17seconds]

I saw it about 2 months ago. Disappointed in the structure of the movie.

I didn't like that the first hour was pretty much all torture. Also didn't like that there was hardly anything about planning/practicing the raid. I would not have told the story that way.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Did the torture scenes really bother people that much? It's a movie.

So is Schindler's List.

 

[Penguin]

Also didn't like that there was hardly anything about planning/practicing the raid. I would not have told the story that way.

I was surprised at that too. I thought they built a replica of the compound and practiced the raid for months before the actual mission.

 

[jdoggydogg]

The "it's just a movie" thing doesn't work for me.

People are being tortured all over the world without any pending charges and without any oversight or regard to the Geneva convention. That this appears in a film doesn't make it any less horrifying.

 

[Apple Jack]

Also didn't like that there was hardly anything about planning/practicing the raid. I would not have told the story that way.

I was surprised at that too. I thought they built a replica of the compound and practiced the raid for months before the actual mission.

The raid was punching it through at the goal line. This movie is about the drive. Finding him is the more interesting story.

 

[17seconds]

Did the torture scenes really bother people that much? It's a movie.

So is Schindler's List.

I'm pretty sure most people who didn't like the torture feel like I do. There was just too much time spent on it. Which is why I said I didn't like the structure of the movie. Felt like the movie went nowhere for the first hour, then the middle got good, then all of a sudden they do the raid and it's over. meh. Cut 30mins out of the first half and add 30mins later as a suspensful planning of the raid.

 

[sporthenry]

Also didn't like that there was hardly anything about planning/practicing the raid. I would not have told the story that way.

I was surprised at that too. I thought they built a replica of the compound and practiced the raid for months before the actual mission.

Yeah, they did. I was surprised by that too. I thought it would be more action and following Seal Team 6 and less intelligence backed. I still think it was a good movie but I would have went at it more from their standpoint and I for sure thought the replica compound and the military aspect would have been more interesting than a girl writing numbers on glass.

I didn't really have any concerns with the torture. I didn't really think it was that overdone and think it was somewhat integral. Maybe they could have shortened the sequence but I didn't find it dragging on, at least compared with other parts of the movie.