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There is no reason why the Rams should take Gholston over C. Long. Absolutely none, C. Long is far more complete of a DE.

 
There is no reason why the Rams should take Gholston over C. Long. Absolutely none, C. Long is far more complete of a DE.
You do realize how ridiculous that sounds, right? Fact is, you don't know, I don't know, NFL teams don't know who will be good or not. Remember when Robert Gallery was a sure-fire blue-chipper, how bout Charles Rogers, how bout David Carr, how bout...would you like me to go on? Now, unless you can see into the future, your statement is rather silly.
 
There is no reason why the Rams should take Gholston over C. Long. Absolutely none, C. Long is far more complete of a DE.
You do realize how ridiculous that sounds, right? Fact is, you don't know, I don't know, NFL teams don't know who will be good or not. Remember when Robert Gallery was a sure-fire blue-chipper, how bout Charles Rogers, how bout David Carr, how bout...would you like me to go on? Now, unless you can see into the future, your statement is rather silly.
How about telling me why the Rams should take Gholston?
 
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Dallas passes on Stewart to reach for Talib and settle for Felix. :goodposting:

He made a great point earlier in the mock about waiting on a corner because of the depth, yet he doesn't apply it to Dallas with ONE of the top three backs available and a half dozen similar corners. Then with the next pick go down and start another tier at RB? I hope he's wrong. It sure doesn't make sense. Neatly fitting Felix to Dallas (Ark connection baloney) and Stewart to Seattle (hometown boy) just seem like lazy projections to me. But who knows? For those who hate this mock, Scott has been as good as any in the past. His 05 mock was impressive.

 
There is no reason why the Rams should take Gholston over C. Long. Absolutely none, C. Long is far more complete of a DE.
You do realize how ridiculous that sounds, right? Fact is, you don't know, I don't know, NFL teams don't know who will be good or not. Remember when Robert Gallery was a sure-fire blue-chipper, how bout Charles Rogers, how bout David Carr, how bout...would you like me to go on? Now, unless you can see into the future, your statement is rather silly.
How about telling me why the Rams should take Gholston?
31 sacks last year?Killer Little old and injury prone?James Hall old and injury prone?Personally, I hope they draft another TE :goodposting:
 
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Dallas passes on Stewart to reach for Talib and settle for Felix. :rolleyes: He made a great point earlier in the mock about waiting on a corner because of the depth, yet he doesn't apply it to Dallas with ONE of the top three backs available and a half dozen similar corners. Then with the next pick go down and start another tier at RB? I hope he's wrong. It sure doesn't make sense. Neatly fitting Felix to Dallas (Ark connection baloney) and Stewart to Seattle (hometown boy) just seem like lazy projections to me. But who knows? For those who hate this mock, Scott has been as good as any in the past. His 05 mock was impressive.
I have loved his mocks in the past, and measure most to his but he seems to have slacked a little this year. Not quite as in tune w/ each team as he has been in the past. IDK, maybe he has a personal life too :confused:
 
There is no reason why the Rams should take Gholston over C. Long. Absolutely none, C. Long is far more complete of a DE.
You do realize how ridiculous that sounds, right? Fact is, you don't know, I don't know, NFL teams don't know who will be good or not. Remember when Robert Gallery was a sure-fire blue-chipper, how bout Charles Rogers, how bout David Carr, how bout...would you like me to go on? Now, unless you can see into the future, your statement is rather silly.
How about telling me why the Rams should take Gholston?
31 sacks last year?Killer Little old and injury prone?James Hall old and injury prone?Personally, I hope they draft another TE :no:
If you read my earlier post, I'm not denying that the Rams need a DE, I just want them to take the right one (Chris Long).
 
There is no reason why the Rams should take Gholston over C. Long. Absolutely none, C. Long is far more complete of a DE.
You do realize how ridiculous that sounds, right? Fact is, you don't know, I don't know, NFL teams don't know who will be good or not. Remember when Robert Gallery was a sure-fire blue-chipper, how bout Charles Rogers, how bout David Carr, how bout...would you like me to go on? Now, unless you can see into the future, your statement is rather silly.
How about telling me why the Rams should take Gholston?
31 sacks last year?Killer Little old and injury prone?James Hall old and injury prone?Personally, I hope they draft another TE :thumbup:
If you read my earlier post, I'm not denying that the Rams need a DE, I just want them to take the right one (Chris Long).
I think Scott Wright said "if you get Gholston's speed and athleticism coming off the edge on the turf in that dome and you could really have something":coffee:eta--my bad, i missed your earlier post about Long. thought you were anti DE
 
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There is no reason why the Rams should take Gholston over C. Long. Absolutely none, C. Long is far more complete of a DE.
You do realize how ridiculous that sounds, right? Fact is, you don't know, I don't know, NFL teams don't know who will be good or not. Remember when Robert Gallery was a sure-fire blue-chipper, how bout Charles Rogers, how bout David Carr, how bout...would you like me to go on? Now, unless you can see into the future, your statement is rather silly.
How about telling me why the Rams should take Gholston?
31 sacks last year?Killer Little old and injury prone?James Hall old and injury prone?Personally, I hope they draft another TE :kicksrock:
If you read my earlier post, I'm not denying that the Rams need a DE, I just want them to take the right one (Chris Long).
I think Scott Wright said "if you get Gholston's speed and athleticism coming off the edge on the turf in that dome and you could really have something":shrug:
I would do the happy-happy jig if Gholston goes before Long.Long is a two way player right now, and there are legit questions as to whether Gholston will ever be force vs. the run. I think it is craziness that Gholston may be ranked over Long, personally.
 
I heard an interesting comment comparing Long to Gholston. You can teach Gholston better technique, but you can't teach Long how to get quicker. I don't think Long is a lock over Gholston at all.

 
I heard an interesting comment comparing Long to Gholston. You can teach Gholston better technique, but you can't teach Long how to get quicker. I don't think Long is a lock over Gholston at all.
Ask a Raider fan about taking the athlete over the football player. I'll take the football player. And the other things Long brings to the field cannot be discounted.Not that Gholston is a workout warrior. But Gholston may not get much bigger. If not, he better be a 12 sack edge rusher. I am not sure I see that explosive first step from Gholston.
 
I heard an interesting comment comparing Long to Gholston. You can teach Gholston better technique, but you can't teach Long how to get quicker. I don't think Long is a lock over Gholston at all.
How's that theory working out for Al Davis?Crap, you beat me to it...

Playing speed will be close. Suggs was too slow also. Long moves like a CB w/ power. Beautiful balance and quickness w/ fluidity. Cromarte was the only player at the combine w/ better feet. .1 seconds will matter less than the 10 pounds, excellent hands and krazy motor Long has over Gholston. If you need that killer pass rusher, take a look at Groves @ the top of the 2nd.

 
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I heard an interesting comment comparing Long to Gholston. You can teach Gholston better technique, but you can't teach Long how to get quicker. I don't think Long is a lock over Gholston at all.
How's that theory working out for Al Davis?Crap, you beat me to it...

Playing speed will be close. Suggs was too slow also. Long moves like a CB w/ power. Beautiful balance and quickness w/ fluidity. Cromarte was the only player at the combine w/ better feet. .1 seconds will matter less than the 10 pounds, excellent hands and krazy motor Long has over Gholston. If you need that killer pass rusher, take a look at Groves @ the top of the 2nd.
That's what I am excited about. There are 7 year vets that don't use their hands as well as Son of Howie.Anyway, regarding the mock, I just happen to think that Scott kind of reacts to what others are saying and kind of follows the herd. I don't think his sources are as good as others and I think you get more profiles and deeper analysis elsewhere. It's a fine site, and hey, it's free, but I am not crazy about the site.

 
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Anyway, regarding the mock, I just happen to think that Scott kind of reacts to what others are saying and kind of follows the herd. I don't think his sources are as good as others and I think you get more profiles and deeper analysis elsewhere. It's a fine site, and hey, it's free, but I am not crazy about the site.
Scott's a minor leaguer when compared to major media pundits assigned to the draft beat, but he is authentic. He has sincere sources, scouts, coaches, etc. He has driven the conversation a few times in the past, not followed it. He was the first (I knew of) to raise Bunkley and Ware high in DL rankings. In both cases the media seemed to follow him. I agree his site is lightweight, rankings archives are unimpressive, profiles are not substantial. Most of it stems from it being a one man operation, but he's a good man and completely devoted to the topic. I can assure you he listens to very few outside opinions unless they are well-sourced. He's his own man.
 
i think the rams will take j. long if he is there... maybe the MIA gaffe about a defensive pillar means this will happen... somebody should get signed in a few days, so rams may be on the clock before sat (could they commence negotitaions before draft, too?)...

if he is gone, i like dorsey or c. long better than gholston... gholston could have highest upside of any of these guys (or anybody in draft?), but he could be one-dimensional... freeney is, but he is faster & quicker than gholston...

if you think dorsey could be a near sapp & c. long might be better than kerney... i'd take dorsey... i think he is best defensive player of the draft, & he is player more than anybody else i have heard characterized as best overall player in the draft (if healthy, which he appears to be)...

i acknowledge DE more pressing need, but imo dorsey may be better enough than c. long (if j. long gone) to justify BPA over team need (for instance, i would be heavily bummed if they took mcfadden, using BPA as justification)...

good point about c. long's excellent hands... that will really help expedite his learning curve... he is supposedly a historically good prospect in that dept.

i thing gholston's floor may not be same as j. long, dorsey & c. long, & imo this pick HAS to turn into a blue chip, franchise cornerstone player, so i think its better to be safe than sorry... i will be really happy with any of those three... i won't be disappointed if they take j. long at expense of defense... but if you scratched me deep, i'm hoping they emerge with dorsey...

in 2nd, hoping CB/WR from group of sweed, cason, flowers, kelly falls...

 
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