SD goes 0-2 because of one of the worst calls I've ever seen! (1 Viewer)

[Zow]

Regardless, I have the utmost faith Ed will be doing twice as many supersets as punishment on himself.

 

[Tau837]

What a joke!SD is now 0-2 because of the worst call I've ever seen. The sad thing is tomorrow the NFL will issue a statement saying they F---ed up, but oh well. Sorry we could have possibly cost you getting in the playoffs (we'll see but the odds of a team going 0-2 and making the playoffs are slim) but it's just our mistake. What a joke! What is replay for anyway?

First, the call was awful, as was the interception call in the first quarter, another huge missed call by the refs that went against the Chargers. This call was missed in two ways... it was a fumble, but if ruled a pass, then it was a backward pass, since the ball landed behind where it was thrown, meaning the ball should have been considered live anyway.That said, the Chargers started 1-3 last year and still made it to the AFC championship game. I see no reason they can't rally this year as they did last year. It's not how I hoped they would start out, but I'm trying to remain optimistic.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Shanahan was kind enough to give San Diego a mulligan by going for the 2 point conversion. That was a bad call but bad calls happen. Despite the terrible call they still had a chance to win the game and couldn't get it done.

Horrible analysis. San Diego did what they needed to do to win the game. Instead of saying, "they still had a chance to win the game and couldn't get it done" what is more accurate to say is that Denver got a SECOND chance to win the game and DID get it done. How you could possibly take that series of events and say the Chargers are the team that got the mulligan is laughable.

 

[BFS]

Inadvertent whistles happen all the time at every level of football.

If the game was that close, you should have made another play elsewhere.

Its not because you gave up the final 8 points you lost. Its because you gave up 38 in total.

Tell that to Seattle fans who saw Roesthberger go down at the 1 foot line. When it happens to your team, it stings. The chargers did give up 8 points, but if the call is made correctly, we win and aren't given the chance to let Cutler beat us.BFS

 

[Trey]

If you don't like it... Hochuli will kick your ###.

 

[Zow]

I have no connection to either Den or SD, and as a Bills fan I honestly don't know who I was supposed to be rooting for in this game, but I am personally offended by how this played out. San Diego won this game, and the officials handed it right back to Denver. This is a disgrace for the NFL that people will remember for years.Edit: I had Royal in my starting lineup, in case it matters. This is still disgraceful.

Seriously? It was a physical human error and then a stupid rule (created by the league) that was then required to be applied. A "disgrace" is a bit of a stretch. You're a bright man - you really don't see that?

 

[Tau837]

Inadvertent whistles happen all the time at every level of football.

If the game was that close, you should have made another play elsewhere.

Its not because you gave up the final 8 points you lost. Its because you gave up 38 in total.

Well, maybe the other play made elsewhere was the slant Chambers caught and was incorrectly ruled an interception. Which led directly to a Denver TD.For me, it's the fact that both of these bad calls happened and went against the Chargers and led to 15 points for the Broncos that makes it so hard to take.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Didn't you guys see the Buffalo Wild Wings commercial? Hochuli looked into the hood, the patrons told him they wanted overtime, so he tried to give it to them. Shanahan is the real villain here, as always.

 

[Avery]

I have no connection to either Den or SD, and as a Bills fan I honestly don't know who I was supposed to be rooting for in this game, but I am personally offended by how this played out. San Diego won this game, and the officials handed it right back to Denver. This is a disgrace for the NFL that people will remember for years.

Edit: I had Royal in my starting lineup, in case it matters. This is still disgraceful.

No one but Bronco's will remember this by next year.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Perhaps the Broncos would have jumped on the ball without a whistle,

I'm a huge Broncos fan.This is a giant stretch. Nobody but San Diego is jumping on that ball without a whistle. Cutler was the closest to it, and there were 3 defenders surrounding the ball on the ground, and it was picked up immediately.

 

[Tau837]

First of all, yes it was a bad call. Probably as about a bad a call as you can make in that situation.With that said, the Chargers aren't 0-2 because of a bad call. The Chargers are 0-2 because their defense isn't capable of stopping a decent high school offense in the last minute of the game. They have had the lead with less than a minute to play in both games this year, and they lost both of them. If they can't get that fixed, this one bad call won't really mean anything.

 

[Jim Otto]

As bad as the Tuck Rule.

I feel even more hatred for the Donkeys than I did before (if that's possible).

 

[jonessed]

I realize it's a rule that if a ref blows the whistle that a play is dead but... they get some calls wrong sometimes and they're reversed -- why can't a wrongly blown whistle be reversed? I don't get it..

Once the whistle blows the play stops and the players, theoretically, stop.Perhaps the Broncos would have jumped on the ball without a whistle, who knows, but you can't put all the players back where they were are tell them to scramble for the ball on the count of three.Human error. Not much you can do about it. Part of the game, I guess.

None of the players heard the whistle. The outcome would have been exactly the same. To a degree, the NFL has to rely on the competence of their refs. They already drill it in their head to hold off on blowing the whistle. If they really want to see reffing improve at this point I think they have to institute some kind of penalty for bonehead calls like this. I'm not holding my breath though. I doubt they even make much mention of it.

 

[Avery]

Perhaps the Broncos would have jumped on the ball without a whistle,

I'm a huge Broncos fan.This is a giant stretch. Nobody but San Diego is jumping on that ball without a whistle. Cutler was the closest to it, and there were 3 defenders surrounding the ball on the ground, and it was picked up immediately.

I'm aware it's a stretch but you a ref can't blow the whistle to end a play and then go back and say, "This is what would have happened if I didn't blow the whistle."There just isn't any gray area there.

 

[FantasyTrader]

And can someone explain how I can see the replay in my living room but the play can't be reviewed because replay isn't available? Here's a thought, pedal your a** around 180 degrees and take a look at the 2 story big screen behind you.

 

[moleculo]

the one positive from this game league-wise is that the next SD/DEN game (12/28) will be HUGE - likely deciding AFCW title, lots of bad blood between the teams, and a blossoming QB rivalry that could be one of the NFL's best for years to come.

 

[Challenge Everything]

Reminded me of the Jerry Rice fumble against the Packers in the playoffs. Except I don't think the NFL had replay at that time. Sucks that the Chargers lost a game due to a call but unlike the Packers game, the Chargers have 14+ games to showcase their talent.

 

[mad sweeney]

Inadvertent whistles happen all the time at every level of football.

If the game was that close, you should have made another play elsewhere.

Its not because you gave up the final 8 points you lost. Its because you gave up 38 in total.

Well, maybe the other play made elsewhere was the slant Chambers caught and was incorrectly ruled an interception. Which led directly to a Denver TD.For me, it's the fact that both of these bad calls happened and went against the Chargers and led to 15 points for the Broncos that makes it so hard to take.

It is hard to take, especially on the same day that the refs spot SF 17 points through phantom or non calls.

 

[jeff1013]

What a joke!SD is now 0-2 because of the worst call I've ever seen. The sad thing is tomorrow the NFL will issue a statement saying they F---ed up, but oh well. Sorry we could have possibly cost you getting in the playoffs (we'll see but the odds of a team going 0-2 and making the playoffs are slim) but it's just our mistake. What a joke! What is replay for anyway?

While i agree it was a bad call...you must be very young for this to be the worst call you have ever seen.

 

[Tau837]

What a joke!SD is now 0-2 because of the worst call I've ever seen. The sad thing is tomorrow the NFL will issue a statement saying they F---ed up, but oh well. Sorry we could have possibly cost you getting in the playoffs (we'll see but the odds of a team going 0-2 and making the playoffs are slim) but it's just our mistake. What a joke! What is replay for anyway?

While i agree it was a bad call...you must be very young for this to be the worst call you have ever seen.

Well, tell us about some of the ones you have seen that you would deem worse.

 

[FantasyTrader]

First of all, yes it was a bad call. Probably as about a bad a call as you can make in that situation.With that said, the Chargers aren't 0-2 because of a bad call. The Chargers are 0-2 because their defense isn't capable of stopping a decent high school offense in the last minute of the game. They have had the lead with less than a minute to play in both games this year, and they lost both of them. If they can't get that fixed, this one bad call won't really mean anything.

NNNNope. I'm pretty sure they're 0-2 because of that bad call. Doesn't matter if the Broncos were down 7 on the last drive and the score was 0-7 or the score was 96-89.

 

[Buffaloes]

San Diego goes 0-2 because of the call?

They still had a chance to stop Denver on 4th and Goal and then again on the 2 point conversion didn't they?

 

[faulkfan]

A bad call didn't make the defense give up 10 yards in two plays for the TD, and then give up the 2-point conversion.

This is a poor argument that has very little logic to it. Actually, the defense held them twice inside the two and then created a situation where the opposing QB fumbled the ball and they recovered. They did everything they are supposed to do and their reward was to have the Ref act like some dude officiating his first high school game. If you give a good offense enough chances they will score. They should never have had the last two chances.

 

[jeff1013]

anytime there has been an advertant whistle...has happened alot of times.

im not saying it is wrong...im saying inadvertant whistles have long been a part of the problem of replay.

 

[jeff1013]

anytime there has been an advertant whistle...has happened alot of times. im not saying it is wrong...im saying inadvertant whistles have long been a part of the problem of replay.

 

[Challenge Everything]

Well, tell us about some of the ones you have seen that you would deem worse.

I would start with the worst calls in the games that mattered most... i.e. playoffs. 1) Tuck Rule - while technically correct, the rule is still speculative.2) Green Bay vs. San Francisco - Jerry Rice fumble that was not a fumble. 3) Not a playoff game I don't believe but Testaverde's phantom touchdown.

 

[j3r3m3y]

What a joke!SD is now 0-2 because of the worst call I've ever seen. The sad thing is tomorrow the NFL will issue a statement saying they F---ed up, but oh well. Sorry we could have possibly cost you getting in the playoffs (we'll see but the odds of a team going 0-2 and making the playoffs are slim) but it's just our mistake. What a joke! What is replay for anyway?

They lost two games because of one bad call? Amazing.

 

[FantasyTrader]

anytime there has been an advertant whistle...has happened alot of times. im not saying it is wrong...im saying inadvertant whistles have long been a part of the problem of replay.

Jeff. Honest question. How lit did you get this afternoon?

 

[moleculo]

A bad call didn't make the defense give up 10 yards in two plays for the TD, and then give up the 2-point conversion.

This is a poor argument that has very little logic to it. Actually, the defense held them twice inside the two and then created a situation where the opposing QB fumbled the ball and they recovered. They did everything they are supposed to do and their reward was to have the Ref act like some dude officiating his first high school game. If you give a good offense enough chances they will score. They should never have had the last two chances.

at " created a situation where the opposing QB fumbled the ball". The Cutler fumble was an unforced error. Basically what happened here was SD was unable to capitalize on an unforced error, due to a ref's mistake. I will readily admit that the ref blew the call, but don't act like SD earned that fumble.

 

[BusMan]

I may be one of the biggest Bronco homers on these boards, and I agree - SD got robbed. Despite some fantastic offensive performances, Denver did not deserve this win.But, I'll take it anyways!

This is 100% my take as well.

 

[Skino]

So San Diego lets Denver drive all the way down to the 2, Cutler is throwing what very well could be a touchdown pass and the ball slips out of his hands. The refs blow the call and SD had the game stolen from them? I'm not buying. It was indeed a bad call, but the only reason they wouldn't have been 0-2 if that stood is because of sheer luck of a human being making a mistake he doesn't normally make (Cutler).

 

[jeff1013]

Well, tell us about some of the ones you have seen that you would deem worse.

I would start with the worst calls in the games that mattered most... i.e. playoffs. 1) Tuck Rule - while technically correct, the rule is still speculative.2) Green Bay vs. San Francisco - Jerry Rice fumble that was not a fumble. 3) Not a playoff game I don't believe but Testaverde's phantom touchdown.

how about any controversial call in the seattle-pittsburgh championship game a few years back...lolducking all the steelers fans.

 

[Tau837]

anytime there has been an advertant whistle...has happened alot of times. im not saying it is wrong...im saying inadvertant whistles have long been a part of the problem of replay.

So you can't actually cite any worse calls, yet you were criticizing the OP for saying it's the worst call he has seen?And to imply any inadvertent whistle is equally bad is ridiculous. If the call was made correctly, the Chargers win, period. Since they lost, it is arguable that this call cost them a win. Most inadvertent whistles do not have that kind of weight.

 

[jeff1013]

anytime there has been an advertant whistle...has happened alot of times. im not saying it is wrong...im saying inadvertant whistles have long been a part of the problem of replay.

Jeff. Honest question. How lit did you get this afternoon?

not sure i understand this question...there have been tons of inadvertant whistles that have ruined a replay. do you expect me to remember each one?

 

[jeff1013]

anytime there has been an advertant whistle...has happened alot of times. im not saying it is wrong...im saying inadvertant whistles have long been a part of the problem of replay.

So you can't actually cite any worse calls, yet you were criticizing the OP for saying it's the worst call he has seen?And to imply any inadvertent whistle is equally bad is ridiculous. If the call was made correctly, the Chargers win, period. Since they lost, it is arguable that this call cost them a win. Most inadvertent whistles do not have that kind of weight.

As i said earlier...i did not say it wasnt a bad call. I am just implying to say it was the worst call is going abit far. sorry!

 

[FantasyTrader]

A bad call didn't make the defense give up 10 yards in two plays for the TD, and then give up the 2-point conversion.

This is a poor argument that has very little logic to it. Actually, the defense held them twice inside the two and then created a situation where the opposing QB fumbled the ball and they recovered. They did everything they are supposed to do and their reward was to have the Ref act like some dude officiating his first high school game. If you give a good offense enough chances they will score. They should never have had the last two chances.

at " created a situation where the opposing QB fumbled the ball". The Cutler fumble was an unforced error. Basically what happened here was SD was unable to capitalize on an unforced error, due to a ref's mistake. I will readily admit that the ref blew the call, but don't act like SD earned that fumble.

I think you misunderstood his point.

 

[a_troll00]

Well, tell us about some of the ones you have seen that you would deem worse.

I would start with the worst calls in the games that mattered most... i.e. playoffs. 1) Tuck Rule - while technically correct, the rule is still speculative.2) Green Bay vs. San Francisco - Jerry Rice fumble that was not a fumble. 3) Not a playoff game I don't believe but Testaverde's phantom touchdown.

how about any controversial call in the seattle-pittsburgh championship game a few years back...lolducking all the steelers fans.

To this day, I still feel that the refs ruined that Super Bowl... and I didn't even have a dog in the fight.

 

[jeff1013]

Well, tell us about some of the ones you have seen that you would deem worse.

I would start with the worst calls in the games that mattered most... i.e. playoffs. 1) Tuck Rule - while technically correct, the rule is still speculative.2) Green Bay vs. San Francisco - Jerry Rice fumble that was not a fumble. 3) Not a playoff game I don't believe but Testaverde's phantom touchdown.

how about any controversial call in the seattle-pittsburgh championship game a few years back...lolducking all the steelers fans.

To this day, I still feel that the refs ruined that Super Bowl... and I didn't even have a dog in the fight.

same here!!!

 

[Tau837]

Well, tell us about some of the ones you have seen that you would deem worse.

I would start with the worst calls in the games that mattered most... i.e. playoffs. 1) Tuck Rule - while technically correct, the rule is still speculative.2) Green Bay vs. San Francisco - Jerry Rice fumble that was not a fumble. 3) Not a playoff game I don't believe but Testaverde's phantom touchdown.

You can't cite a call that was made correctly according to the rules (i.e., the Tuck Rule), since it was not actually a bad call, just a bad rule.I'm not familiar with #2. #3 was a big driver that led to the NFL adopting instant replay. However, I would argue that this one is worse, because they failed on 3 counts in live action:1. Ruling it a pass and not a fumble.2. Not ruling it a backward pass.3. Not holding off on the whistle just in case, knowing that replay could correct it if they let it go and it was truly an incomplete pass.

 

[FantasyTrader]

So San Diego lets Denver drive all the way down to the 2, Cutler is throwing what very well could be a touchdown pass and the ball slips out of his hands. The refs blow the call and SD had the game stolen from them? I'm not buying. It was indeed a bad call, but the only reason they wouldn't have been 0-2 if that stood is because of sheer luck of a human being making a mistake he doesn't normally make (Cutler).

 

[JGalligan]

I realize it's a rule that if a ref blows the whistle that a play is dead but... they get some calls wrong sometimes and they're reversed -- why can't a wrongly blown whistle be reversed? I don't get it..

Once the whistle blows the play stops and the players, theoretically, stop.Perhaps the Broncos would have jumped on the ball without a whistle, who knows, but you can't put all the players back where they were are tell them to scramble for the ball on the count of three.Human error. Not much you can do about it. Part of the game, I guess.

But still...It makes a bit more sense the way you put it, though.

 

[FantasyTrader]

anytime there has been an advertant whistle...has happened alot of times. im not saying it is wrong...im saying inadvertant whistles have long been a part of the problem of replay.

Jeff. Honest question. How lit did you get this afternoon?

not sure i understand this question...there have been tons of inadvertant whistles that have ruined a replay. do you expect me to remember each one?

Never mind. Was an attempt at humor, implying, "How drunk did you get today?" because I can't comprehend what you wrote.

 

[therokie0070]

Human error or did he have 20,000 on denver!!!!!! In the last two weeks I have never seen such horse #### for officals, last week we said they were rusty this week I say they suck ###!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[bentley]

Well, tell us about some of the ones you have seen that you would deem worse.

I would start with the worst calls in the games that mattered most... i.e. playoffs. 1) Tuck Rule - while technically correct, the rule is still speculative.2) Green Bay vs. San Francisco - Jerry Rice fumble that was not a fumble. 3) Not a playoff game I don't believe but Testaverde's phantom touchdown.

Mike Renfro in the 1980 AFC Championship game should also be on the list.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

I don't want to read through 90+ posts, but I was curious if anyone has brought up this point, which makes it an even worse call... The ball was "thrown" backwards. Even if his hand was coming forward before the ball came out it would have been a fumble.

 

[jeff1013]

anytime there has been an advertant whistle...has happened alot of times. im not saying it is wrong...im saying inadvertant whistles have long been a part of the problem of replay.

Jeff. Honest question. How lit did you get this afternoon?

not sure i understand this question...there have been tons of inadvertant whistles that have ruined a replay. do you expect me to remember each one?

Never mind. Was an attempt at humor, implying, "How drunk did you get today?" because I can't comprehend what you wrote.

maybe u should ask yourself the same question than. To think this was the worst calls ever because of an inadvertant whistle would make me think the same thing. Inadvertant whistles have ruined many replays. if you dont think so than maybe u had a few also?? Just saying....

 

[WisWolvrns]

Well, tell us about some of the ones you have seen that you would deem worse.

I would start with the worst calls in the games that mattered most... i.e. playoffs. 1) Tuck Rule - while technically correct, the rule is still speculative.2) Green Bay vs. San Francisco - Jerry Rice fumble that was not a fumble. 3) Not a playoff game I don't believe but Testaverde's phantom touchdown.

Don't forget that forward... ruled backward... lateral in the Bills/Tenn playoff game...

 

[EaglesNest]

First of all, yes it was a bad call. Probably as about a bad a call as you can make in that situation.With that said, the Chargers aren't 0-2 because of a bad call. The Chargers are 0-2 because their defense isn't capable of stopping a decent high school offense in the last minute of the game. They have had the lead with less than a minute to play in both games this year, and they lost both of them. If they can't get that fixed, this one bad call won't really mean anything.

Actually, that's a stupid post. I wasn't going to say anything till I saw you say it was a good one. The Chargers are 0 - 2 because of the bad call rather than being 1 - 1. In close games Refs are supposed to make the right calls. On a play like that there was no excuse to blow the whistle. No excuse whatsoever. It's a long season, but every game counts. No matter how their defense played, they would have won the game despite playing poorly. In case you didn't realize, Denver did some things poorly as well.

 

[moleculo]

imagine a situation where your D has been shreaded all day. With the game on the line, the opposing O has the ball, 2nd and goal from the one, driving for the game tying TD. The end result of the play is 3rd and goal from the 10.

Without knowing the circumstances of the play, wouldn't one be happy about the results of this play?

 

[FantasyTrader]

anytime there has been an advertant whistle...has happened alot of times.

im not saying it is wrong...im saying inadvertant whistles have long been a part of the problem of replay.

Jeff. Honest question. How lit did you get this afternoon?

not sure i understand this question...there have been tons of inadvertant whistles that have ruined a replay. do you expect me to remember each one?

Never mind. Was an attempt at humor, implying, "How drunk did you get today?" because I can't comprehend what you wrote.

maybe u should ask yourself the same question than. To think this was the worst calls ever because of an inadvertant whistle would make me think the same thing. Inadvertant whistles have ruined many replays. if you dont think so than maybe u had a few also?? Just saying....

No, you're still not understanding. "anytime there has been an advertant whistle...has happened alot of times." I LITERALLY cannot comprehend that. Is it a question? A statement? An attempt at a sentence? Not trying to be a smart**, I literally did not understand you. Also, I'll need you to point out where in this thread I've said I thought this was one of the worst calls ever. I never even hinted at that.