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both.Is Toomer's career over or is he planning to come back this year?
both.Is Toomer's career over or is he planning to come back this year?
both.Is Toomer's career over or is he planning to come back this year?
Stevens doesn't have a contract in Seattle. I have my doubts they will invest in him again. Won't be surprised to see Seattle go after Dan Graham. Not sure which I would rather have, but Graham and Stevens appear to be the top TE's on the market.I've been waiting for Hackett to get this type of opportunity. I hope it materializes and he takes full advantage of it.Burleson should be returning kicks again in Seattle next season. I'm very confident in that assessment. I think he has very little chance of getting many reps at WR other than in 4WR sets.I don't think you bump up Branch or Hackett as much as you bump Jeremy Stevens.
Stallworth looked good in the offense...when he was playing. He's too injury prone and the Eagles will not invest the amount of money it will take to re-sign him. Like it or not, Philly has never spent lots of $$ for WR's, except for TO. They've won consistently the last few years with guys like Pinkston, Thrash, and Freddie Mitchell. They have a way and it always works. Yes, ideally they have a speedy WR, but they will give guys like Baskett and Avant the chance.Cant stay healthy? That is a bit overblown. He missed 4 games last year and played 16 games in each of the 2 previous seasons.He had a very good 2005 as a #2 with NO and had an excellent 2006 with Philly with a 19.1 ypc. Look beyond the stats, he looked very good in that offense. He had 725 in 11 games (missed 4 games to injury and sat out the week 17 meaningless game).I'd like to see the Pats sign him although I think Drew Bennett is a better fit for their offense.This Stallworth love is a joke. The guy can't stay healthy and has never cracked 1,000 yards. DJax, if healthy (and that's a lot more promising than it is with Stall) is better.
You can have an opinion, it is just wrong in this case.Pat Patriot said:See me in a year when Baskett puts up 30 catches and 500 yards (if that).Rovers said:Funny, Copper and Henderson are good depth behind Horn, but Baskett sucks and has no chance to develop. Did you say the same thing about Cotchery? Or any number of other rookie WR's that needed a year (or more) to adjust to a pro offense and the NFL?
You know what they say about opinions.... everyone has one, but it's the second part of that cliche that comes to mind here.... fine to express an onpinion, but don't show us the other thing everyone has however.
Baskett's first year stats are similar to Henderson's first year so yes he could develop. I just dont see the same skill set. He doesnt have Henderson's speed. They are not the same type of WR so it is probably a bad anlalogy.
I thought Copper did more with his opportunities than did Baskett and looked better doing so.
At you questioning someone having an opinion on a FF messageboard. What am I NOT supposed to have an opinion?
Ron_Mexico said:both.Pat Patriot said:Is Toomer's career over or is he planning to come back this year?
This is a good question, and I'm surprised it took this long to mention the Packers. Green Bay GM Ted Thompson had a hand in drafting Jackson, so there's a connection. Mike Holmgren and Mike McCarthy learned the West Coast Offense from similar people, so there's a connection. Jackson alongside Driver with Jennings as the #3? I'd love to see that as a Packer fan. Jackson to Green Bay does seem to make sense. The question is, is Thompson willing to move a pick for Jackson? He's generally pretty stingy with draft picks.nightmare said:How would D Jax do in Green Bay?
You have obviously never owned Stallworth. He is injury prone. I got sick of checking the injury reports for this guy and then not being able to play him because he is a game time decision. As a former owner I call him injury prone.I'm not going to quote Jedimaster's post but in response:1. Stallworth was hurt early in the year but he played every game after week 7. He played 16 games in each of the 2 previous seasons. That doesnt sound like a WR that is injury prone to me.2. Reggie Brown had a good year. He played 15 games to Stallworths 11. They actually compliment each other well. So he played 4 more games and had 8 more catches, 70 more yards and 3 more TD's.3. At some point Stallworth would price himself out of an acceptable range but to dismiss him as injury prone is wrong in my estimation. He wants to stay in Philly. I think Philly should slightly overpay the guy to keep him. If he is looking to break the bank, send him on his way. But I wouldnt NOT sign Stallworth because I am confident in Hank Baskett.4. Sounds like you drink the Eagle kool-aid. I hope it is tasty.
Here is a statement that while innocent on the surface will be the basis for this year's free agent market. I don't really care who the player is, but I suspect we will see a lot of the following:TEAM A evaluates PLAYER X as a $3 million per year player. PLAYER X wants $5 million. "Slightly overpaying" to TEAM A may mean offering $3.5 million. PLAYER X says no and becomes a free agent. With limited free agent talent available and some teams $30 million under the cap, PLAYER X starts getting offers for $6-$6.5 million.While this may be an extreme example, look what's happened in baseball with regard to starting pitchers. Guys with lifetime losing records and 5.00+ ERAs are getting $10-11M per year deals.I suspect that next week we will see some very average players getting insansely overpaid. But what about TEAM A (like Philadelphia . . . or New England . . . or whomever) that has pressing needs but refuses to pay the going rate for free agents? If the Pats didn't want to pay Deion Branch over $6 million a year, does anyone think they will for Stallworth, Bennett, or Lelie?IMO, some of these teams are going to have to pony up a lot more money if they want to get decent players to fill their needs. We can debate if going with an average talent pool will equal above average results, but at some point one would think that that strategy will come back to haunt you. IMO, great players make great teams. Great coaching makes very good teams if the talent across the board isn't there.I think Philly should slightly overpay the guy to keep him. If he is looking to break the bank, send him on his way.
Its closer than you think. Reggie Brown is the best of this group but his stats are close to what Pinkston put up. And Greg Lewis and Freddie Mitchell are more accomplished than Baskett and Avant. Baskett and Avant could prove to be better but have not done so yet.Eagles WRs for 2004 NFC Championship game: Todd Pinkston, Greg Lewis, Freddie MitchellReggie Brown, Hank Baskett, Jason Avant > Todd Pinkston, Greg Lewis, Freddie Mitchell
The Eagles still have Greg Lewis so really it's more like:Reggie Brown and Baskett/Avant > Todd Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell. Even if you would say that Reggie Brown and Baskett/Avant = Todd Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell, Pinkston/Mitchell was a good enough WR corp to win the NFC Championship game and go to the Superbowl. If the Eagles are going to be legitimate contenders, they need to spend their money on the defensive side of the ball, not on their WRs.Its closer than you think. Reggie Brown is the best of this group but his stats are close to what Pinkston put up. And Greg Lewis and Freddie Mitchell are more accomplished than Baskett and Avant. Baskett and Avant could prove to be better but have not done so yet.
Name me all of the defensive FA's you expect the Eagles to sign as opposed to signing Stallworth?Or are you just talking about locking up mediocre talent like Mike Patterson and Trent Cole to long term contracts?The Eagles have ZERO credible LB's and they refuse to take part in free agency. Good luck with that.The Eagles still have Greg Lewis so really it's more like:Reggie Brown and Baskett/Avant > Todd Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell. Even if you would say that Reggie Brown and Baskett/Avant = Todd Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell, Pinkston/Mitchell was a good enough WR corp to win the NFC Championship game and go to the Superbowl. If the Eagles are going to be legitimate contenders, they need to spend their money on the defensive side of the ball, not on their WRs.Its closer than you think. Reggie Brown is the best of this group but his stats are close to what Pinkston put up. And Greg Lewis and Freddie Mitchell are more accomplished than Baskett and Avant. Baskett and Avant could prove to be better but have not done so yet.
What did the Eagles do to get you so p-'d at them?Name me all of the defensive FA's you expect the Eagles to sign as opposed to signing Stallworth?Or are you just talking about locking up mediocre talent like Mike Patterson and Trent Cole to long term contracts?The Eagles have ZERO credible LB's and they refuse to take part in free agency. Good luck with that.The Eagles still have Greg Lewis so really it's more like:Reggie Brown and Baskett/Avant > Todd Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell. Even if you would say that Reggie Brown and Baskett/Avant = Todd Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell, Pinkston/Mitchell was a good enough WR corp to win the NFC Championship game and go to the Superbowl. If the Eagles are going to be legitimate contenders, they need to spend their money on the defensive side of the ball, not on their WRs.Its closer than you think. Reggie Brown is the best of this group but his stats are close to what Pinkston put up. And Greg Lewis and Freddie Mitchell are more accomplished than Baskett and Avant. Baskett and Avant could prove to be better but have not done so yet.
1. Stallworth is known very well to be injury prone. Making your claim will get you a lot of :X in the right threads.3. You should never ever overpay for players. Philly and NE both know that well, right Pat? Both teams are known for getting rid of players who want anything more than they are worth (or even asking for as much as they're worth) and getting bargain deals. Besides, they wouldn't rely on Baskett after Stallworth leaves. They would rely on either Brown or someone they bring in. 4.I'm not going to quote Jedimaster's post but in response:1. Stallworth was hurt early in the year but he played every game after week 7. He played 16 games in each of the 2 previous seasons. That doesnt sound like a WR that is injury prone to me.3. At some point Stallworth would price himself out of an acceptable range but to dismiss him as injury prone is wrong in my estimation. He wants to stay in Philly. I think Philly should slightly overpay the guy to keep him. If he is looking to break the bank, send him on his way. But I wouldnt NOT sign Stallworth because I am confident in Hank Baskett.4. Sounds like you drink the Eagle kool-aid. I hope it is tasty.
This year, Brown at #2 with Stallworth at #1 most games will certainly hurt his stats. You're comparing Pinkston playing #1 WR to our #2 this year? They were comparable stat-wise, which, in light of the situation, gives Brown a huge edge.Its closer than you think. Reggie Brown is the best of this group but his stats are close to what Pinkston put up. And Greg Lewis and Freddie Mitchell are more accomplished than Baskett and Avant. Baskett and Avant could prove to be better but have not done so yet.Eagles WRs for 2004 NFC Championship game: Todd Pinkston, Greg Lewis, Freddie MitchellReggie Brown, Hank Baskett, Jason Avant > Todd Pinkston, Greg Lewis, Freddie Mitchell
Pinkston was #1 in 2004? What was TO? a mirage?1. Stallworth is known very well to be injury prone. Making your claim will get you a lot of :X in the right threads.3. You should never ever overpay for players. Philly and NE both know that well, right Pat? Both teams are known for getting rid of players who want anything more than they are worth (or even asking for as much as they're worth) and getting bargain deals. Besides, they wouldn't rely on Baskett after Stallworth leaves. They would rely on either Brown or someone they bring in. 4.I'm not going to quote Jedimaster's post but in response:1. Stallworth was hurt early in the year but he played every game after week 7. He played 16 games in each of the 2 previous seasons. That doesnt sound like a WR that is injury prone to me.3. At some point Stallworth would price himself out of an acceptable range but to dismiss him as injury prone is wrong in my estimation. He wants to stay in Philly. I think Philly should slightly overpay the guy to keep him. If he is looking to break the bank, send him on his way. But I wouldnt NOT sign Stallworth because I am confident in Hank Baskett.4. Sounds like you drink the Eagle kool-aid. I hope it is tasty.
This year, Brown at #2 with Stallworth at #1 most games will certainly hurt his stats. You're comparing Pinkston playing #1 WR to our #2 this year? They were comparable stat-wise, which, in light of the situation, gives Brown a huge edge.Its closer than you think. Reggie Brown is the best of this group but his stats are close to what Pinkston put up. And Greg Lewis and Freddie Mitchell are more accomplished than Baskett and Avant. Baskett and Avant could prove to be better but have not done so yet.Eagles WRs for 2004 NFC Championship game: Todd Pinkston, Greg Lewis, Freddie MitchellReggie Brown, Hank Baskett, Jason Avant > Todd Pinkston, Greg Lewis, Freddie Mitchell
Forgot about Obomanu, was hoping to see some of him last season but he wasn't active for the last game. DJ's lackadaisical attitude is his problem. From drops to lack of entusiasm to soft shoeing would be TDs. Seems that for every game he's a stud he also is a liability.And, honestly, is there any way we can get rid of/stop the Stallworth/Eagles talk? I have to sort through a whole page of posts to get to the 4 or 5 that are on topic. I'm begging you!Shick! said:LINK
Reading through all the Seattle homer comments attached to that article will give you a good feel for what the locals expect. Ben Obomanu is drawing lots of praise in their too.
If Jackson is shipped out of town I think it's a lock that Hackett will be a candidate for most-over-hyped potential heading into the new season. I'll have a hard time projecting Hackett or Branch as the Seattle #1. Won't be surprised to see a fairly even split in fantasy production.
He's missed 13 games the last two seasons, and was second in the league in drops 2004, and 2006.Seattle has made it to the Super Bowl, and the playoffs this year without his help. I doubt Seattle is regressing if they trade him.Nobody on Seattle can hold D-Jax jock, i dont get this move. This team is regressing.
See my next post for comments from the Seattle PI.The draft is two months away. That gives us a fairly wide window for a possible trade involving Darrell Jackson and a 2007 draft choice. Some have asked if there's any way Jackson could return next season, given that he knows the team plans to shop him. I would say this: Jackson has handled these sorts of things well. He was productive after the team added Nate Burleson and Deion Branch. He was leading the NFL in touchdown catches late in the season. I see no reason why he wouldn't continue to produce in a Seattle uniform if it comes to that. And I pointed that out in my original story (at least the part about him conceivably returning). …
Let me also address the latest round of rumors suggesting possible issues between Mike Holmgren and Tim Ruskell. As I have said in the past, it's not a perfect situation because Holmgren would like to still be the general manager. However, all evidence I've seen suggests they function well enough to win. A similar report came out in Pro Football Weekly a while back. Holmgren has told me several times that he thinks the organization is in good hands. He has said this in situations where I wasn't interviewing him. If I see evidence of serious problems, I'll follow up and do my best to report on it accurately, fairly and in context. Right now there isn't any reporting of specifics attached to those rumors. …
KJR did ask me about the likelihood of various players returning. I did say it seemed more likely Jackson and Jerramy Stevens would be elsewhere. Some of this could depend on what else happens in free agency. If Bobby Engram has an opportunity to get more playing time in a better situation -- let's use Indianapolis as an example -- I would think he might consider that strongly. The Seahawks appear to be moving forward with Branch, Burleson and Hackett, and possibly Jackson. That might not leave as many plays for Engram. Just something to consider. …
Farnesworth does a consistently better job of reporting the facts. I have to give Sando at the Tacoma News Tribune credit for being correct more often that he's wrong, but he has been wrong in the past on a few occasions. I'm sure we've all been when speculating. Just seems somewhat inappropriate for a beat writer.Seahawks' Ruskell dismisses notion that Jackson is on the block
By CLARE FARNSWORTH
P-I REPORTER
INDIANAPOLIS -- The Seahawks wouldn't trade their leading receiver, would they?
It all depends on the draft-choice compensation another team might be willing to part with to acquire Darrell Jackson.
Jackson is available, sources said Sunday at the NFL scouting combine. But club president Tim Ruskell labeled the situation "combine talk" and stressed that nothing is imminent.
"We get a lot of interest at the combine, people asking about our players," Ruskell said. "We'll listen to anything, but it doesn't mean we're going to do anything.
"In terms of Darrell, he's under contract and we plan on having him back. That's where that stands."
Jackson has three years remaining on the six-year, $25 million contract he signed in 2004, and his escalating base salaries of $3.25 million (2007), $4.75 million (2008) and $4.75 million (2009) could be a deterrent to any clubs that might consider a trade.
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"It's unfortunate that that would be the speculation," Ruskell said. "Because the kid is going, 'Geez, what's going on? They don't love me.' "
Jackson's agent, Brian Mooney, said he was unaware of any trade talk.
"I'm completely in the dark about this," Mooney said. "From our side, Darrell would love to finish his career in Seattle."
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First, thank you for not responding to that confusing format. Next...1. Do you really think that Stallworth is a reliable WR that is durable? He has shown a tendency to get injured, and I think it is futile to argue that. Besides, if you are right and he only missed a few games, he still only managed 38 catches.2. The do complement each other well. However, usually the WR that stays healthy and has a better ability running after the catch is more valuable in the WCO. So really, Reggie is more valuable and Stallworth is the speed guy.3. Why would you ever overpay any player? Besides that, how can you argue with the Eagles' track record of letting players go? You don't not sign Stallworth because you are confident in Baskett. You avoid paying an injury prone player who has never been an elite WR a 40 million dollar contract. 4. I really don't like the statement. I am an Eagles fan, but I have backed up my points with objective analysis, and IMO you are the one that is off base in this case. You seem to have little knowledge of Stallworth's true value OR of the Eagles' tendencies the past few years.I'm not going to quote Jedimaster's post but in response:1. Stallworth was hurt early in the year but he played every game after week 7. He played 16 games in each of the 2 previous seasons. That doesnt sound like a WR that is injury prone to me.2. Reggie Brown had a good year. He played 15 games to Stallworths 11. They actually compliment each other well. So he played 4 more games and had 8 more catches, 70 more yards and 3 more TD's.3. At some point Stallworth would price himself out of an acceptable range but to dismiss him as injury prone is wrong in my estimation. He wants to stay in Philly. I think Philly should slightly overpay the guy to keep him. If he is looking to break the bank, send him on his way. But I wouldnt NOT sign Stallworth because I am confident in Hank Baskett.4. Sounds like you drink the Eagle kool-aid. I hope it is tasty.
I would definitely take your knowledge and expertise over Tom Heckert's. He really hasn't shown an ability to evaluate talent, and hasn't been able to make correct decisions about when to release a player. Why don't you interview for the position?"Hank and Jason Avant, I think they've proven they can play and they will be performers for us," Heckert said. Jason Avant caught 7 passes last year. Drink all the Kool-Aid you want but Avant hasnt proven anything yet.
If you really think that an injury prone WR that had 38 catches is worth more than a young, talented D-tackle and an up and coming defensive end...then you know little about true value in the NFL.Name me all of the defensive FA's you expect the Eagles to sign as opposed to signing Stallworth?Or are you just talking about locking up mediocre talent like Mike Patterson and Trent Cole to long term contracts?The Eagles have ZERO credible LB's and they refuse to take part in free agency. Good luck with that.The Eagles still have Greg Lewis so really it's more like:Reggie Brown and Baskett/Avant > Todd Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell. Even if you would say that Reggie Brown and Baskett/Avant = Todd Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell, Pinkston/Mitchell was a good enough WR corp to win the NFC Championship game and go to the Superbowl. If the Eagles are going to be legitimate contenders, they need to spend their money on the defensive side of the ball, not on their WRs.Its closer than you think. Reggie Brown is the best of this group but his stats are close to what Pinkston put up. And Greg Lewis and Freddie Mitchell are more accomplished than Baskett and Avant. Baskett and Avant could prove to be better but have not done so yet.
Look out for Kevin Curtis in Buffalo.I see shicks links doubting the accuracy of them wanting to deal djax but if they are true wouldn't buffalo be looking for someone to put opposite Evans?
Seattle is already regressing and despite the drops and injuries he was tied for 3rd in the league in TD catches on a team that was having real red zone problems. Jackson had 10, all the other WR had 11 combined. Seahawks would miss that production. Branch had only 11 less targets and he ended up with 230 less yards and 6 less touchdowns. Yeh, I think they will miss that production.He's missed 13 games the last two seasons, and was second in the league in drops 2004, and 2006.Seattle has made it to the Super Bowl, and the playoffs this year without his help. I doubt Seattle is regressing if they trade him.
I guess my biggest problem with your counter points is that I am still waiting for evidence of the fact that Stallworth is "injury prone". He has played 44 of 48 games in the last 3 years. That to me is not injury prone. He is not an "elite" receiver and I wouldnt pay him $40 million either but I think $25-30 million is in the ball park. It seems like the Philly front office already has their mind made up. I dont know, maybe they have already exchanged figures and Stallworth and his agent are at $40?I think Stallworth is worth more than Mike Patterson. I also think Stallworth is worth more than Trent Cole.Patterson is a liability. Cole is a good pass rusher and a liability against the rush.If you really think that an injury prone WR that had 38 catches is worth more than a young, talented D-tackle and an up and coming defensive end...then you know little about true value in the NFL.Name me all of the defensive FA's you expect the Eagles to sign as opposed to signing Stallworth?Or are you just talking about locking up mediocre talent like Mike Patterson and Trent Cole to long term contracts?The Eagles have ZERO credible LB's and they refuse to take part in free agency. Good luck with that.The Eagles still have Greg Lewis so really it's more like:Reggie Brown and Baskett/Avant > Todd Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell. Even if you would say that Reggie Brown and Baskett/Avant = Todd Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell, Pinkston/Mitchell was a good enough WR corp to win the NFC Championship game and go to the Superbowl. If the Eagles are going to be legitimate contenders, they need to spend their money on the defensive side of the ball, not on their WRs.Its closer than you think. Reggie Brown is the best of this group but his stats are close to what Pinkston put up. And Greg Lewis and Freddie Mitchell are more accomplished than Baskett and Avant. Baskett and Avant could prove to be better but have not done so yet.
1. He missed 4 games last year and NONE the two previous years.3. There will be a lot of players overpaid this offseason because of the dramatic increase in the salary cap. If you think you are close to a championship, you might go outside of your comfort zone to sign someone. I believe the Pats did this with Colvin a few years back.First, thank you for not responding to that confusing format. Next...1. Do you really think that Stallworth is a reliable WR that is durable? He has shown a tendency to get injured, and I think it is futile to argue that. Besides, if you are right and he only missed a few games, he still only managed 38 catches.I'm not going to quote Jedimaster's post but in response:
1. Stallworth was hurt early in the year but he played every game after week 7. He played 16 games in each of the 2 previous seasons. That doesnt sound like a WR that is injury prone to me.
2. Reggie Brown had a good year. He played 15 games to Stallworths 11. They actually compliment each other well. So he played 4 more games and had 8 more catches, 70 more yards and 3 more TD's.
3. At some point Stallworth would price himself out of an acceptable range but to dismiss him as injury prone is wrong in my estimation. He wants to stay in Philly. I think Philly should slightly overpay the guy to keep him. If he is looking to break the bank, send him on his way. But I wouldnt NOT sign Stallworth because I am confident in Hank Baskett.
4. Sounds like you drink the Eagle kool-aid. I hope it is tasty.
2. The do complement each other well. However, usually the WR that stays healthy and has a better ability running after the catch is more valuable in the WCO. So really, Reggie is more valuable and Stallworth is the speed guy.
3. Why would you ever overpay any player? Besides that, how can you argue with the Eagles' track record of letting players go? You don't not sign Stallworth because you are confident in Baskett. You avoid paying an injury prone player who has never been an elite WR a 40 million dollar contract.
4. I really don't like the statement. I am an Eagles fan, but I have backed up my points with objective analysis, and IMO you are the one that is off base in this case. You seem to have little knowledge of Stallworth's true value OR of the Eagles' tendencies the past few years.
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Reading through all the Seattle homer comments attached to that article will give you a good feel for what the locals expect. Ben Obomanu is drawing lots of praise in their too.
If Jackson is shipped out of town I think it's a lock that Hackett will be a candidate for most-over-hyped potential heading into the new season. I'll have a hard time projecting Hackett or Branch as the Seattle #1. Won't be surprised to see a fairly even split in fantasy production.
You know... I was wondering what everyone thought about the Philadelphia Eagles WR situation. I really lucked out by clicking on this thread about Darrell Jackson.
Vikings fan. It would be very interesting if the Vikings pursued Jackson, given the venom between Vikings & Seahawks last year over Hutchinson. Man, that was ugly. Don't see how the Vikes could/would play the game. They NEED someone like him though. Burleson would currently be our #1 guy....From what I've read, the Vikes are currently interested in Ashlie Lelie but are well known over the past year to blow smoke up the fans' arses.Who knows? Weirder things have happened.Man, some of u guys really no how to throw a thread off track. Dynasty speaking: Branch bumps up 10-15 spots or so to 20-25. Hackett bumps up 10 spots or so to 35-40 rangeI think the real winner here will be Burleson. Ya, he's disappeared the last few years without CPeps deep ball, but I think he has what it takes to be a top 25 WR.
DawgStyle said:Vikings fan. It would be very interesting if the Vikings pursued Jackson, given the venom between Vikings & Seahawks last year over Hutchinson. Man, that was ugly. Don't see how the Vikes could/would play the game. They NEED someone like him though. Burleson would currently be our #1 guy....Man, some of u guys really no how to throw a thread off track.
Dynasty speaking:
Branch bumps up 10-15 spots or so to 20-25.
Hackett bumps up 10 spots or so to 35-40 range
I think the real winner here will be Burleson. Ya, he's disappeared the last few years without CPeps deep ball, but I think he has what it takes to be a top 25 WR.
From what I've read, the Vikes are currently interested in Ashlie Lelie but are well known over the past year to blow smoke up the fans' arses.
Burleson would NOT be the #1 WR on Seattle if Jackson left. He's a #2 at best and maybe #3 behind the guy in the slot, Bobby Engram. Hackett would become the #1 in Seattle but if DJax leaves look for Seattle to bring in a talented WR to take over his spot. Burleson did a great job on special teams last year but he's been a huge disappointment at WR. Considering what they paid for him it has to rank as Seattle's worst player decision, ever! They got caught being too emotional about how they lost Hutch (which was their fault) and when you make decisions based on emotion, well you know the rest ...........
Who knows? Weirder things have happened.
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Burleson would NOT be the #1 WR on Seattle if Jackson left. He's a #3 at best and maybe #4 behind the guy in the slot, Bobby Engram. Branch would become the #1 in Seattle, with Hackett #2, but if DJax leaves look for Seattle to bring in a talented WR to take over his spot. Burleson did a great job on special teams last year but he's been a huge disappointment at WR. Considering what they paid for him it has to rank as Seattle's worst player decision, ever! They got caught being too emotional about how they lost Hutch (which was their fault) and when you make decisions based on emotion, well you know the rest ...........
In terms of Cap then it would cost the Seahawks 0.75million to trade him this year (NFLPA does not agree with the 2008 salary - they say it is 4m).Link
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Jackson has three years remaining on the six-year, $25 million contract he signed in 2004, and his escalating base salaries of $3.25 million (2007), $4.75 million (2008) and $4.75 million (2009) could be a deterrent to any clubs that might consider a trade.
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First off, sorry I am once again hijacking...this will be the last time. I definitely disagree with your opinions about Trent Cole and Patterson, but we will see what the future holds for them and their performance will change your opinion. I think there are few GMs in the league that would prefer a WR that has shown he isn't elite and MAY have some injury concerns over two young, promising D lineman.Next, you may be right. I tend to think that Stallworth has injury concerns, and has had difficulty staying 100% healthy the last few seasons due to hamstring problems. If he didn't miss a lot of games, I know he was on the injury report a few times, and it affected his play. But let's say that you are right and he hasn't been injured that often. Then what has kept him from putting up #1 WR statistics? If he is so talented, and deserves a contract in the 30-40 million range, why was New Orleans willing to trade him for a middle round pick and an aging backup linebacker? I think he has demonstrated throughout his career that he is a very good #2 WR, which doesn't warrant the contract he is requesting. Whether it is due to injuries, or he just isn't that good, he hasn't been that effective on the field. The Eagles can find another WR to stretch the field without paying that kind of money.1. He missed 4 games last year and NONE the two previous years.3. There will be a lot of players overpaid this offseason because of the dramatic increase in the salary cap. If you think you are close to a championship, you might go outside of your comfort zone to sign someone. I believe the Pats did this with Colvin a few years back.First, thank you for not responding to that confusing format. Next...1. Do you really think that Stallworth is a reliable WR that is durable? He has shown a tendency to get injured, and I think it is futile to argue that. Besides, if you are right and he only missed a few games, he still only managed 38 catches.I'm not going to quote Jedimaster's post but in response:
1. Stallworth was hurt early in the year but he played every game after week 7. He played 16 games in each of the 2 previous seasons. That doesnt sound like a WR that is injury prone to me.
2. Reggie Brown had a good year. He played 15 games to Stallworths 11. They actually compliment each other well. So he played 4 more games and had 8 more catches, 70 more yards and 3 more TD's.
3. At some point Stallworth would price himself out of an acceptable range but to dismiss him as injury prone is wrong in my estimation. He wants to stay in Philly. I think Philly should slightly overpay the guy to keep him. If he is looking to break the bank, send him on his way. But I wouldnt NOT sign Stallworth because I am confident in Hank Baskett.
4. Sounds like you drink the Eagle kool-aid. I hope it is tasty.
2. The do complement each other well. However, usually the WR that stays healthy and has a better ability running after the catch is more valuable in the WCO. So really, Reggie is more valuable and Stallworth is the speed guy.
3. Why would you ever overpay any player? Besides that, how can you argue with the Eagles' track record of letting players go? You don't not sign Stallworth because you are confident in Baskett. You avoid paying an injury prone player who has never been an elite WR a 40 million dollar contract.
4. I really don't like the statement. I am an Eagles fan, but I have backed up my points with objective analysis, and IMO you are the one that is off base in this case. You seem to have little knowledge of Stallworth's true value OR of the Eagles' tendencies the past few years.
4. What has not been objective about my analysis. If a player plays in 92% of games over a 3 year stretch, I find it hard to call that player injury prone. Injury prone players usually dont make it to the end of the year. Stallworth was pretty strong in the Playoffs. I live in Philly but am a Pats fan. I follow the Eagles very closely. I know how they operate. I know their tendencies. I'm not arguing that the Eagles will let Stallworth walk but I agree with Ray Dittinger and Glenn Macnow, they shouldnt let him walk.
My guess is you'll hearing nothing until possibly draft day.benson_will_lead_the_way said:anything new here?anybody have any idea if he is staying or going as some of these WR's are signing now.
I'm really surprised teams like SF, MIN, etc haven't made a move. They certainly need WR veteran leadership/experience on their team.http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?...p;tb=1&pb=1
Notes on Holmgren, Jackson, Allen and Leiweke
Posted by Mike Sando @ 08:17:46 pm
The first full day of the NFL meetings has finished. I've recently filed two stories for the paper, and I'll be grabbing some dinner shortly. No one else remains in the media tent -- the last remaining holdout just departed -- so I must be doing something wrong. Before bailing, I'll pass along a few tidbits, a few of which will be developed further in our Tuesday coverage.
Seahawks CEO Tod Leiweke was instrumental in the $430 million revenue-sharing plan adopted by a 30-2 vote today. He was part of an eight-member committee, along with Houston Texans owner Bob McNair and others, that spent the last year working toward this agreement. Their proposal passed by an 8-0 vote in committee. Its passage represented a major victory for new commissioner Roger Goodell.
The Seahawks' efforts to trade Darrell Jackson haven't gained much traction yet. The team appears more likely to keep him at this point, although things can certainly change, particularly on draft day.
Coach Mike Holmgren was pretty optimistic about the offense today when I asked him about the offensive line and the situation at tight end. He likes Marcus Pollard. He expressed confidence in Rob Sims and Chris Spencer. He said he won't be worried if Chris Gray returns, figuring they'll be OK at right guard if they can choose between Floyd Womack, Gray and one or two draft choices.
The digital media committee, chaired by Hawks owner Paul Allen, is not meeting here in Phoenix. Allen is not attending these meetings. But I have spoken to a few members of the committee. We'll explore that one a little later this week.