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Season Long QBBC Case Study (1 Viewer)

Tau837

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I'm interested in tracking how effective we are as a group in using our QBs.

It is often claimed that a good strategy is to draft 2 or 3 QBs late and play matchups. Personally, I have found QBBC to be difficult, as it is hard to predict when QBs will have their best games. As an example, I had Vick as my main starter last season, and I picked up Romo off the waiver wire when he replaced Bledsoe. From there forward, I think I literally started the lower scoring guy every week. That despite following news, matchups, etc.

So I want to track it in this thread. I'd like to track all situations - strong starters with normal backups and more traditional QBBCs. I'd also welcome thoughts about the costs/benefits of the different situations (e.g., do you have more or less roster spots available for other positions?).

Here is what I suggest. Each person who is interested, make a single post, and edit that post throughout the season. I'll bump the thread each week. But this way we can keep each team's results together for easier analysis.

Of course, I expect everyone to name their starters before the start of each week.

Other suggestions/comments welcome.

 
I'll start.

16 team league, start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 Def. 1/25 passing, 6 points for all TDs, -2 for interceptions; otherwise basically FBG scoring. Short bench, with only 5 bench players.

Week 1

I have Romo, Losman, and Garrard. As of now, Frye is the only starter available on the waiver wire. I just dropped Demetrius Williams for Garrard. I don't see myself playing Garrard, but I figured if he or Losman start off strong, I might be able to trade him off. With 16 teams, starting QBs are very thin.

In general, I intend at this point to pretty much start Romo all season, except for his bye week and of course barring injury. I'll stick with that plan this week, and start Romo at home vs. the Giants rather than Losman at home vs. Denver or Garrard at home vs. Tennessee.

Result: Romo 40.6, Garrard 15.2, Losman 2.5.

Week 2

I'll go with Romo again. I certainly don't expect a repeat performance, but I'll go with Romo again at Miami. Garrard is home vs. Atlanta and Losman is at Pittsburgh.

Result: Romo 21.8, Garrard 17, Losman 8.9.

Week 3

I'll go with Romo again. I cut Losman today for the KC defense, with the Miami defense hurting me so far and Losman performing poorly. Romo has a tough matchup at Chicago, but Garrard is at Denver.

Result: Romo 20.9, Garrard 14.3.

Week 4

I'll go with Romo again, of course. He is home against St. Louis. Meanwhile, my only backup, Garrard, is on bye. After Romo's performance against Chicago, I doubt I will consider benching him this season unless due to injury. Meanwhile, Garrard is QB #13, well worth starting in this 16 team league... will continue to explore trades with him included. It would be outstanding if he came out of the bye with a big game or two.

Result: Romo 35.7. Romo is playing unbelievably well. Owens wasn't even much of a factor today and Glenn was out... I could see him finishing as QB1.

Week 5

Romo is at Buffalo and Garrard is at KC. I will of course stick with Romo. Still looking to move Garrard if possible.

 
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I have Cutler and Leinhart. I see myself starting based on match ups. I see Denver running all over My Bills, so I'm starting Matt.

 
In one league last season, I went with Eli and Favre as my QB combo. It started off great, Eli was fantastic early on. Favre really found his groove mid season. Unfortunately, they both tailed off towards the last third of the season.

They both became so erratic and inconsistent that I never really knew who to start any given week. It completely killed me in the playoffs. Also, waiting til late for a QB absolutely killed me in another league last year.

This season, I had the mindset of relying on one main QB. If a top five QB was available round 4, he would not be available anymore. The latest I waited this season for a QB this year was round 7, and I have no regrets about it. QBBC sounds really nice and shiny in theory, putting it to effective use is another story all together. QBs don't always perform to a matchup as you expect them too.

These are my QB combos this season:

league 1: Bulger (round 4) Cutler (round 13)

league 2: Romo (round 7) Campbell (round 14)

league 3: Brady (round 4) A. Smith (round 15)

These are all 6pt passing TD leagues, league 3 also giving a pt per completion. Like I said, no regrets at all.

 
I don't understand how Romo is a QBBC...but I think I know where you are going with this thread.

I have Hasselbeck pluse Delhomme and Grossman in 1 league.

I am leaning Delhomme against the Rams as Hasselbeck has to play TB and they are usually tough in the secondary...Grossman against the SD secondary could be a sleeper this week but I might have to pass.

 
I tried to set up a QBBC last year, went with Brunell, Aaron Brooks, and Jake Plummer. :crazy: Had to pick up Steve McNair a few weeks in and rode him as my stud all season long.

Trying it again this year. Alex Smith, Jake Delhomme, and JP Losman. Alex Smith is up in week 1, Delhomme will probably start weeks 2-5.

 
I have Vince Young, Alex Smith, Jason Campbell. I plan on using Young for the most part. That being said I love Campbell, I think he is this year's Philip Rivers. Anyone read the QB projections from Pro Football Prospectus? That's why.

 
I'm interested in tracking how effective we are as a group in using our QBs.It is often claimed that a good strategy is to draft 2 or 3 QBs late and play matchups. Personally, I have found QBBC to be difficult, as it is hard to predict when QBs will have their best games. As an example, I had Vick as my main starter last season, and I picked up Romo off the waiver wire when he replaced Bledsoe. From there forward, I think I literally started the lower scoring guy every week. That despite following news, matchups, etc.So I want to track it in this thread. I'd like to track all situations - strong starters with normal backups and more traditional QBBCs. I'd also welcome thoughts about the costs/benefits of the different situations (e.g., do you have more or less roster spots available for other positions?).Here is what I suggest. Each person who is interested, make a single post, and edit that post throughout the season. I'll bump the thread each week. But this way we can keep each team's results together for easier analysis.Of course, I expect everyone to name their starters before the start of each week.Other suggestions/comments welcome.
1) Manning. 2) Brees. 3) Palmer4) Bulger 5) Kitna6) Brady7) VYoung.8) McNabb.9) TRomo10) BRoethlisberger11) MLeinart.IF you have one of these QBs, its not a QBBC.
 
1) Manning. 2) Brees. 3) Palmer4) Bulger 5) Kitna6) Brady7) VYoung.8) McNabb.9) TRomo10) BRoethlisberger11) MLeinart.IF you have one of these QBs, its not a QBBC.
What if I have 2 of your list? Can I call that QBBC?
That would be called gluttony. LOL. :fishing:
:lol:In my dynasty, I have VY and Ben. I consider that QBBCIn a 2 QB start league, I have Kitna and CPep/McCown, Croyle, and Beck I'd like that to be QBBC for the 2nd spot, but Croyle has disappointed. Although I don't have them, if I were to use QBBC with those not in the top 12, I'd want Campbell and Losman. I'll keep track of those 3 situations.Week 1:Ben @ ClevelandKitna, CPep/McCown (no brainer)Campbell vs. Miami
 
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16 team league, start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 Def. 1/25 passing, 6 points for all TDs, -2 for interceptions; otherwise basically FBG scoring. Short bench, with only 5 bench players.
12 team league, start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1RB/WR/TE Flex, 1K, 1Def. 1/25 passing, 6 point TDs, -1 INT. Only 4 bench spots, so 2QB taken for QBBC: Hasselbeck (RD9) / Cutler (RD10)Week 1

Starting Hass week 1 against TB based on Ultimate Strength of Schedule and the fact that I'm usually more comfortable with established QBs early in the year.

 
I tried a different strategy this year. What always happens to me is I pick someone who is in the "pretty good, not great" list, and someone who is in the "just OK but could break out" list.

This year I picked 2 in the "pretty good" list, drafting them like 7th & 8th round, or 7th & 9th, almost back to back. After selecting tons of WR and RB.

What usually happens to me in past years is that the "pretty good not great" guy doesn't end up being an every week starter, and the "just OK" guy ends up being a disaster.... so trying something different this year.

In one league I have Romo and Roethlisberger.

In another league I couldn't really do this and picked up Vince Young and Brett Favre.

 
Vince Young, Big Ben, and Leinart this year for me. Biggest issue with QBBC is picking the right starter - I found at least 30% of the time I do not (in retrospect - it may be a no brainer before the games start). I question all the QBBC strategy articles that do not account for this expected drop-off in performance from starting the wrong QB.

 
Delhomme and Schwab.

I got Delhomme cheap in an auction and Schuab was the highest available combo according to FBG's QBBC article so I ended up overpaying a little to make sure I got him. Fingers Crossed.

 
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14 team, 3 keeper, PPR, high performance (all TDs = 6pts), start QB/2RB/2WR/TE/K/D

I meant to grab a QB a bit earlier than I often do, 5th to 8th QB off the board, but picking at the turn I just missed a run on QBs and was left with Alex Smith.

I followed that up in a couple of rounds with Farve and Schaub (by rule, we must roster 3 QBs).

I figure with those three, I should have a viable starter each week, the only problem is picking the right one. Although I believe that if I look back at the end of the season, I will have a top 14 QB each week, meaning a viable starter in a 14 team league, the (obvious) challenge is to pick the right one as I go through the season. Challenging, because it is easy to try to "chase the bus" and go with the guy who was hot the previous week.

I hope that one of these guys separates himself from the rest of the committee early on so I have a "main guy" for I seemed to get burned playing matchups in these situations.

 
A) 14 team dynasty, start 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Flex (RB/WR/TE), PK, DST. 1/25 passing, 6pt tds and -3 ints.

B) 12 team redraft, start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR/TE, PK DST. 1/25 passing, 4pts TD, -1 int

Week 1:

Team A - I have Rivers, Delhomme & Grossman. My thought right now is to primarily use Rivers throughout the season. It will be wait and see with Delhomme & Grossman. I wouldn't hesitate to utilize matchups, once I am confident Jake & Rex won't bust. I plan to start Rivers vs Chi (home game). Delhomme is at STL (this was my only other consideration in wk 1) and Grossman is at SD.

Team B - I have Rothleisberger and Schaub. Same thing as Team A. I plan to use Big Ben primarily and wait and see with Schaub. I am starting Big Ben at CLE over Schaub who is at home vs KC.

Week 2:

I'm in full QBBC mode.

Team A - Big mistake week 1, should have started Delhomme and almost pulled the trigger on Sat. I will play this QBBC until someone emerges. This week is Rivers @NE, Delhomme v HOU and Grossman v KC. I'm thinking Delhomme right now, Grossman second and Rivers last.

Team B - Big Ben (vs BUF) or Schaub (@CAR). I will go with Ben again.

 
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I have Alex Smith and Jason Campbell as my QB's in a 12 team league

4 pt TD's

-1 INT

.04 pts per yard passing

.10 pts per yard running

I am starting Alex in Week 1 vs. the Cards.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
I don't understand how Romo is a QBBC...but I think I know where you are going with this thread.I have Hasselbeck pluse Delhomme and Grossman in 1 league.I am leaning Delhomme against the Rams as Hasselbeck has to play TB and they are usually tough in the secondary...Grossman against the SD secondary could be a sleeper this week but I might have to pass.
I assume you are referring to me having Romo & Losman. I agree, it's not a QBBC. My goal is to track different situations all season, to include those situations in which teams have a single primary starter.Part of what interests me is whether it really is better to wait on drafting QBs. And, if so, is it better to wait just beyond the Manning/Palmer/Brady/Brees/Bulger/McNabb level, or also to wait beyond the next tier and pick up combos like Grossman and Alex Smith?I'm also interested in how bye issues, guys on the waiver wire, short benches, etc. play into the decision-making at QB.I'm hoping this thread will draw a lot of different solutions in for a season long comparison.ETA: My gut feeling is that the benefit of QBBC is overstated on these forums. I think it takes a lot more luck than people are willing to suggest, and more often than not does not really work out. That's kind of what I want to determine with this case study.
 
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BigSteelThrill said:
Just Win Baby said:
I'm interested in tracking how effective we are as a group in using our QBs.It is often claimed that a good strategy is to draft 2 or 3 QBs late and play matchups. Personally, I have found QBBC to be difficult, as it is hard to predict when QBs will have their best games. As an example, I had Vick as my main starter last season, and I picked up Romo off the waiver wire when he replaced Bledsoe. From there forward, I think I literally started the lower scoring guy every week. That despite following news, matchups, etc.So I want to track it in this thread. I'd like to track all situations - strong starters with normal backups and more traditional QBBCs. I'd also welcome thoughts about the costs/benefits of the different situations (e.g., do you have more or less roster spots available for other positions?).Here is what I suggest. Each person who is interested, make a single post, and edit that post throughout the season. I'll bump the thread each week. But this way we can keep each team's results together for easier analysis.Of course, I expect everyone to name their starters before the start of each week.Other suggestions/comments welcome.
1) Manning. 2) Brees. 3) Palmer4) Bulger 5) Kitna6) Brady7) VYoung.8) McNabb.9) TRomo10) BRoethlisberger11) MLeinart.IF you have one of these QBs, its not a QBBC.
See the post I just made above. Maybe I need to change the thread title. I'm interested in comparing results from people using QBBC to people who aren't, with a goal being to see whether there are a lot of teams who are truly better off going QBBC rather than taking a solid starter, such as those you list above.
 
John Maddens Lunchbox said:
BigSteelThrill said:
1) Manning. 2) Brees. 3) Palmer4) Bulger 5) Kitna6) Brady7) VYoung.8) McNabb.9) TRomo10) BRoethlisberger11) MLeinart.IF you have one of these QBs, its not a QBBC.
What if I have 2 of your list? Can I call that QBBC?
For purposes of this thread, yes. I am interested in how well you do in choosing between them.
 
Just Win Baby said:
I'm interested in tracking how effective we are as a group in using our QBs.

It is often claimed that a good strategy is to draft 2 or 3 QBs late and play matchups. Personally, I have found QBBC to be difficult, as it is hard to predict when QBs will have their best games. As an example, I had Vick as my main starter last season, and I picked up Romo off the waiver wire when he replaced Bledsoe. From there forward, I think I literally started the lower scoring guy every week. That despite following news, matchups, etc.

So I want to track it in this thread. I'd like to track all situations - strong starters with normal backups and more traditional QBBCs. I'd also welcome thoughts about the costs/benefits of the different situations (e.g., do you have more or less roster spots available for other positions?).

Here is what I suggest. Each person who is interested, make a single post, and edit that post throughout the season. I'll bump the thread each week. But this way we can keep each team's results together for easier analysis.

Of course, I expect everyone to name their starters before the start of each week.

Other suggestions/comments welcome.
No offense, but couldn't you just keep track of this in an excel spreadsheet and update us around Week 14? I mean of course you can do it here too, but I just envision this thread turning into a whine-fest of "Why didn't I start Alex Smith over Hasselbeck last week?!"

 
Just Win Baby said:
I'm interested in tracking how effective we are as a group in using our QBs.

It is often claimed that a good strategy is to draft 2 or 3 QBs late and play matchups. Personally, I have found QBBC to be difficult, as it is hard to predict when QBs will have their best games. As an example, I had Vick as my main starter last season, and I picked up Romo off the waiver wire when he replaced Bledsoe. From there forward, I think I literally started the lower scoring guy every week. That despite following news, matchups, etc.

So I want to track it in this thread. I'd like to track all situations - strong starters with normal backups and more traditional QBBCs. I'd also welcome thoughts about the costs/benefits of the different situations (e.g., do you have more or less roster spots available for other positions?).

Here is what I suggest. Each person who is interested, make a single post, and edit that post throughout the season. I'll bump the thread each week. But this way we can keep each team's results together for easier analysis.

Of course, I expect everyone to name their starters before the start of each week.

Other suggestions/comments welcome.
No offense, but couldn't you just keep track of this in an excel spreadsheet and update us around Week 14? I mean of course you can do it here too, but I just envision this thread turning into a whine-fest of "Why didn't I start Alex Smith over Hasselbeck last week?!"
How could I track in a spreadsheet what other people are doing with their QB situations? :yes: Of course I can look back after the fact and for any given pair see which one scored more points. But I want to see how well people make their decisions about who to start. That is not something I can track without others posting about their decisionmaking *before* the fact.

 
Losman and Culpepper :yes:

Starting Culpepper against the Lions.

Even though it's a 14 man league, we have short benches (4 spots), so there are some decent waiver options as well - Schaub, Garrard and Delhomme. I'm going for the homerun with C-pepp. We'll see if it plays out.

 
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John Maddens Lunchbox said:
BigSteelThrill said:
1) Manning. 2) Brees. 3) Palmer4) Bulger 5) Kitna6) Brady7) VYoung.8) McNabb.9) TRomo10) BRoethlisberger11) MLeinart.IF you have one of these QBs, its not a QBBC.
What if I have 2 of your list? Can I call that QBBC?
I'll play. I have Bulger/Leinart in one league and Kitna/Leinart in another league. Even though I have 2 from that list, I think Leinart will be a better start than the other two from time to time. I think this will be fun and interesting to track. Week 1 I will go with Kitna in league 1 and Bulger in league 2 and pass on Leinart's first good matchup vs SF
 
Good idea for a thread. For myself, it'll give me an excuse to pay closer attention over the full season to how well I pull off the QBBC. And if you can pool everyone's data together in the end (then obviously post for discussion sometime during the off-season) that'd be really useful, too, methinks.

I'm going QBBC in 2 different leagues. In a third, I have Palmer. (9/12) For my own edification, I'll post a running score relative to the #10 QB for the week in each league -- do I pick a "starter" in a 10-team league?

League One (dynasty): 4 pt/PaTD; 6 pt/RuYd; 1 pt/20 PaYd; 1 pt/10 RuYd; no penalties, 3 pt bonus at 330 yards

Rivers, Grossman, T. Jackson.

Week One:

I'll start Grossman (vs. SD) over Rivers (vs. Chicago). Yeah, it's Grossman. And yeah, it's in SD. But the Chicago pass D is so far and away better than the SD pass D that I felt this was the call. Update 9/12: Not a good week for any of these guys -- Rivers 9, Grossman 7, Jackson 13. (-10) for the week, relative to C. Palmer's 17.

Week Two:

I'll start Grossman (vs. KC) over Rivers (vs. NE) again, because of match-ups. I actually thought of putting in Jackson, figuring Detroit won't stop anyone this year (I don't buy into the McCown hype for a second -- lots of QBs will look good this year against Detroit), but hope for a home-rebound game from Rex. Update 9/19: Dropped Jackson for K. Clemens (17) who sat with Rivers (16) behind Grossman (12). I think I'm done starting Rex for a while. (-7) for the week (relative to Garrard's 19), (-17) for the year (relative to the #10 QB for each week).

Week Three:

I'm starting Rivers (at GB) over Grossman (vs. Dallas) and a recently added Chad Pennington (dropped a TE). Finally got one right! Rivers (27) out-did Grossman (10, and soon to be cut) and Pennington (20). (+4) on the week, relative to D. Anderson's 23, (-13) on the year relative to #10.

Week Four:

For now I've got Pennington at Buffalo in over Rivers vs. KC. Again got one right, though hardly thrilled by the results. Pennington (18) outdid Rivers (10). (-2) on the week (relative to Kitna and Schaub with 20) and (-15) on the year relative to #10

League Two (redraft): 6 pt/allTD; 1 pt/25 PaYd; 1 pt/10 RuYd; -2 pt/INT; 5 pt bonus at 300 yards

Hasselbeck (10th QB drafted, Round 7), Roethlisberger (19th QB drafted, Round 13), and Leinart (13th QB drafted, Round 10).

Week One:

I'm leaning towards Roethlisberger (vs. Cleveland) over Hasselbeck (vs. TB) and Leinart (vs. SF). May switch to Leinart at the last minute. Update 9/12: Actually ended up starting Hasselbeck (18) over Roethlisberger (33) and Leinart (10). Oops. (-3) for the week, relative to C. Palmer's 21.

Week Two:

I've got Hasselbeck in for now...may switch to Roethlisberger. If Hasselbeck out-scores Ben this week, I'll start trusting my initial instinct more, and just stop with the flip-flopping. Started Hasselbeck (20) in the end over Roethlisberger (19) and Leinart (19). (-4) for the week (relative to Schaub's 24) and (-7) for the year.

Week Three:

Starting Hasselbeck (vs. CIN) over Roethlisberger (vs. SF) and Leinart (at Baltimore). Feeling good about this one :popcorn: . Another good call...though not the super-duper performance I was hoping for: Hasselbeck (25) outdid Roethlisberger (13) and Leinart (2). In this league, Hasselbeck was #10. (-7) for the year.

Week Four:

Again looking to start Hasselbeck @SF over Roethlisberger @Arizona. Hasselbeck (24) and Roethlisberger (24) equalled one another and were +1 on #10 (Anderson). Leaving me (-6) for the year relative to #10.

 
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Losman and Culpepper :confused: Starting Culpepper against the Lions.Even though it's a 14 man league, we have short benches (4 spots), so there are some decent waiver options as well - Schaub, Garrard and Delhomme. I'm going for the homerun with C-pepp. We'll see if it plays out.
Start 2 QB: 1 pt/20yds passing, 4 pts/TD pass.Options: Delhomme, Garcia, Culpepper, HuardCulpepper makes my decision tough this week. I also like him as a home run candidate vs. the Lions but Kiffin says he won't disclose who is starting to force the Lions to prepare for both. I think I'll play it safe with Delhomme and Huard (vs. Texans). How is everyone else playing the Raiders QB situation?? Might only be an issue for others who start 2 QBs... if you do, please chime in!
 
Mine, will update after I decide. Nice idea for a thread, BTW.

Week 1:

1) Rivers over Campbell

2) Leinart or Cutler?

3) Brees over Jackson

4) Hasselbeck or Losman?

5) Rivers over Schaub

6) Rivers or Cutler - Going with Cutler due to Rivers' difficult matchup vs CHI

7) Young or Favre?

So need to make 4 decisions.

 
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I usually wait late on a QB. This year I did the same. I drafted Hasselback in the 9th round. 11th round came around and Jay Cutler was left, who was way higher rated than anyone else left on my board. Round 16 I took Jake Delhomme. We do have a 10 man bench by the way so this works better than in some other leagues. Looking at the matchups I come out with a season schedule like this.....

Wk 1 - Delhomme at St. Louis

Wk 2 - Hasselback at Arizona

Wk 3 - Hasselback vs Cincy

Wk 4 - Cutler at Indy

Wk 5 - Delhomme at NO

Wk 6 - Hasselback vs NO

Wk 7 - Hasselback vs St. Louis

Wk 8 - Delhomme vs Indy

Wk 9 - Cutler at Detroit

Wk 10 - Cutler at KC/Delhomme at ATL/Hasselback vs SF

Wk 11 - Cutler vs Ten

Wk 12 - Hasselback at St. Louis

Wk 13 - Delhomme vs. San Fran

Wk 14 - Hasselback vs Arizona

Wk 15 - Cutler at Houston

Wk 16 - Cutler at SD/Delhomme vs Dallas

Unfortunately the worst matchups of the whole year are week 16, my league championship game if I was to make it. But breaking it down you get

3 games vs St. Louis

2 games vs New Orleans

2 games vs Indianapolis

2 games vs Arizona

All high powered offenses with bad to horrid defenses. The remaining games are against teams like Det, Ten, Cincy, Houston, etc....

Any thoughts on this strategy?

 
Just Win Baby said:
I'm interested in tracking how effective we are as a group in using our QBs.

It is often claimed that a good strategy is to draft 2 or 3 QBs late and play matchups. Personally, I have found QBBC to be difficult, as it is hard to predict when QBs will have their best games. As an example, I had Vick as my main starter last season, and I picked up Romo off the waiver wire when he replaced Bledsoe. From there forward, I think I literally started the lower scoring guy every week. That despite following news, matchups, etc.

So I want to track it in this thread. I'd like to track all situations - strong starters with normal backups and more traditional QBBCs. I'd also welcome thoughts about the costs/benefits of the different situations (e.g., do you have more or less roster spots available for other positions?).

Here is what I suggest. Each person who is interested, make a single post, and edit that post throughout the season. I'll bump the thread each week. But this way we can keep each team's results together for easier analysis.

Of course, I expect everyone to name their starters before the start of each week.

Other suggestions/comments welcome.
No offense, but couldn't you just keep track of this in an excel spreadsheet and update us around Week 14? I mean of course you can do it here too, but I just envision this thread turning into a whine-fest of "Why didn't I start Alex Smith over Hasselbeck last week?!"
How could I track in a spreadsheet what other people are doing with their QB situations? :lmao: Of course I can look back after the fact and for any given pair see which one scored more points. But I want to see how well people make their decisions about who to start. That is not something I can track without others posting about their decisionmaking *before* the fact.
Ohh, ok. I thought this was going to serve as a personal study of your team.
 
Good thread idea. I'm generally opposed to the QBBC idea since, lik you, I feel that picking the correct QB each week is difficult. But I kind of got forced into it by our draft and will see how it plays out.

14 team league, start 1 QB. 6 pts for all TDs, .05 per passing yard, .10 per rushing yards, -1 for INTs.

I have Alex Smith, Jason Campbell and Joey Harrington

Week 1: Starting Alex Smith

Week 2: Starting Jason Campbell vs. Eagles over Smith vs. Rams and Harrington vs. Jags.

Results: 7 points from Alex Smith. Good for the 4th lowest score out of 14 starters. Campbell would have given me 11 points, Harrington would have matched Smith's 7.

 
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I'm trying this theory in one of my 12 teamers of mostly guppies. All TD's are 6 pts.

I drafted Favre, Cutler, and Campbell.

I think I'm going with Favre in week 1.

 
ETA: My gut feeling is that the benefit of QBBC is overstated on these forums. I think it takes a lot more luck than people are willing to suggest, and more often than not does not really work out. That's kind of what I want to determine with this case study.
I agree. In one of my leagues I grabbed Rivers, Cutler, and Schaub. Going with Rivers week 1.
 
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Not a true QBBC like I have done in the past but I have Romo and Eli.

Starting Romo Week 1 vs Giants.

Hopefully I don't need to start Eli much this year

 
BigSteelThrill said:
1) Manning. 2) Brees. 3) Palmer4) Bulger 5) Kitna6) Brady7) VYoung.8) McNabb.9) TRomo10) BRoethlisberger11) MLeinart.IF you have one of these QBs, its not a QBBC.
So if I had Leinart and Rivers, I should blindly start Leinart every week without playing matchups? :shock: Manning, Palmer, McNabb, Brady, Bulger and Brees are QB1s who start every week. Everyone else = matchups and backups need consideration.
 
BigSteelThrill said:
1) Manning. 2) Brees. 3) Palmer4) Bulger 5) Kitna6) Brady7) VYoung.8) McNabb.9) TRomo10) BRoethlisberger11) MLeinart.IF you have one of these QBs, its not a QBBC.
So if I had Leinart and Rivers, I should blindly start Leinart every week without playing matchups? :bag: Manning, Palmer, McNabb, Brady, Bulger and Brees are QB1s who start every week. Everyone else = matchups and backups need consideration.
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I have Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning.

Week 1: Roethlisberger against Cleveland. Benching Manning against Dallas.

Do you want us to include our scoring systems?

 
I have Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning.Week 1: Roethlisberger against Cleveland. Benching Manning against Dallas.Do you want us to include our scoring systems?
We can refine this as we go. Bottom line is I want to be able to judge whether a given poster's strategy with QBs was successful or not at the end of the season. I'll probably go in to my post every week and post something brief about the result in terms of fantasy points. It's free form here, so include whatever you think is relevant to assessing your strategy.
 
I have Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning.Week 1: Roethlisberger against Cleveland. Benching Manning against Dallas.Do you want us to include our scoring systems?
We can refine this as we go. Bottom line is I want to be able to judge whether a given poster's strategy with QBs was successful or not at the end of the season. I'll probably go in to my post every week and post something brief about the result in terms of fantasy points. It's free form here, so include whatever you think is relevant to assessing your strategy.
:goodposting: for later.Rough week this week, but may pick up on this Wk 2.
 
Losman and Culpepper :lmao: Starting Culpepper against the Lions.Even though it's a 14 man league, we have short benches (4 spots), so there are some decent waiver options as well - Schaub, Garrard and Delhomme. I'm going for the homerun with C-pepp. We'll see if it plays out.
Since McCown was named the starter, I dropped Culpepper and picked up Delhomme. Worked out well. I'm keeping him as my QB for next week as well.
 
1) Manning. 2) Brees. 3) Palmer4) Bulger 5) Kitna6) Brady7) VYoung.8) McNabb.9) TRomo10) BRoethlisberger11) MLeinart.IF you have one of these QBs, its not a QBBC.
What if I have 2 of your list? Can I call that QBBC?
That would be called gluttony. LOL. :lmao:
:lol:In my dynasty, I have VY and Ben. I consider that QBBCIn a 2 QB start league, I have Kitna and CPep/McCown, Croyle, and Beck I'd like that to be QBBC for the 2nd spot, but Croyle has disappointed. Although I don't have them, if I were to use QBBC with those not in the top 12, I'd want Campbell and Losman. I'll keep track of those 3 situations.Week 1:Ben @ Cleveland :lmao: :thumbup: Campbell vs. Miami :thumbup:
I should probably erase my 2 QB league, as it's not QBBC right now. 2 for 2 then. Campbell didn't light it up, but he did better than Losman.Going with Ben and Campbell again in week 2.
 
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Well, I started Big Ben over Kitna against Peyton Manning. In our league Kitna tied Manning and Big Ben won by one point. I tried to convince the commissioner this year that he had to boost QB points because the relative value between them was too small. I plan on doing an analysis after the year (year one of this league) of all the QB's.

 
In one of my leagues I ended up drafting a true QBBC ... this one is made up of Alex Smith (selected as QB15 at 10.03) and Jake Delhomme (selected as QB22 at 15.10) <_< ... here we go:

Week 1: Started Alex Smith (6pts) over Jake Delhomme (27pts) ===> LOSS

Week 2: Started Jake Delhomme (32pts) over Alex Smith (3pts) ===>WIN

Week 3: Started Jake Delhomme (16 pts) over Alex Smith (15 pts) ===>WIN

*** Due to Delhomme's injury and Smith's suckiness, I picked up and will start Steve McNair in Wk 4 ***

Week 4: Started Steve McNair (19pts) over Alex Smith (0pts) ===> LOSS

*** Dropped Alex Smith to the WW for other depth needs ***

Week 5: Started Steve McNair (9pts) over Delhomme (0pts) ===> LOSS

*** Dropped Delhomme & picked up Huard vs. CIN -- Warner was gone; McNair was a GTD scratch ***

Week 6: Started Damon Huard (22pts) over Steve McNair (0pts) ===> LOSS

*** Dropped McNair & picked up Garcia vs. DET -- Garrard was gone; going for match-ups ***

Week 7: Started Jeff Garcia (24pts) over Damon Huard (5pts) ===>WIN

*** Hmph, guess I'm glad I missed out on Garrard! Sticking with Garcia during Huard's bye week ... nothing else out there ***

Week 8: Started Jeff Garcia (14pts) over Damon Huard (0pts - bye) ===>WIN

Week 9: Started Jeff Garcia (15pts) over Damon Huard (16pts) ===>WIN

*** Thinking of drinking the Steve McNair koolaid again this week vs. CIN with Garcia on a bye ***

Week 10: TBD

YTD as-started QB ranking (total points through week 7): QB#8 (157 pts)

YTD best-ball QBBC ranking (total points through week 7): QB#4 (179 pts) --> this tracks the running total as if all my decisions had been correct

Brady sits at QB#1 with 314pts. Romo is QB#2 with 211pts and Anderson is QB#3 with 186pts.

:thumbup:

Through week 9 and still going better than I thought. Picked up a few W's and am back to a tie for 1st in my division!

 
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I will tell you tomorow after Alex Smith Plays.

I did start Smith and Schaub, leaving Garcia and Delhomme (ouch) on the bench.

Week One update

QBBC officially sucks. Alex Smith blew two of my teams out of the water.

 
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Just a note on evaluating the final results. To me, "success" will not mean that I picked the highest scoring player every time or even necessarily the majority of the time, because that isn't my expectation of what I'm going to get out of a QBBC.

My expectation is that I'm going to take some QBs taken later than others in my league, and I'm going to get as good of production as QBs taken earlier than mine. So I'd consider success to mean scoring around the fantasy league average at QB though I was the 11th team out of 12 to draft a QB.

My QBBC

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I have Hasselbeck, Losman and Grossman. 6 pt TDs, -3 INT/fumble, standard yardage.

Fantasy point results with starter in bold.

Week 1: Hasselbeck 15.58, Grossman 2.80, Losman 2.18. Was outscored by opposing team's QB. (Kitna 26.26).

Season total FP: 15.58

Current league rank in QB scoring: 6th

 
Just a note on evaluating the final results. To me, "success" will not mean that I picked the highest scoring player every time or even necessarily the majority of the time, because that isn't my expectation of what I'm going to get out of a QBBC.My expectation is that I'm going to take some QBs taken later than others in my league, and I'm going to get as good of production as QBs taken earlier than mine. So I'd consider success to mean scoring around the fantasy league average at QB though I was the 11th team out of 12 to draft a QB.
:)I encourage everyone to judge their results in the way that makes sense to them and post in this thread about it. This is not very scientific but I'm hoping to learn something through the exercise.
 
Just a note on evaluating the final results. To me, "success" will not mean that I picked the highest scoring player every time or even necessarily the majority of the time, because that isn't my expectation of what I'm going to get out of a QBBC.

My expectation is that I'm going to take some QBs taken later than others in my league, and I'm going to get as good of production as QBs taken earlier than mine. So I'd consider success to mean scoring around the fantasy league average at QB though I was the 11th team out of 12 to draft a QB.

My QBBC

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I have Hasselbeck, Losman and Grossman. 6 pt TDs, -3 INT/fumble, standard yardage.

Fantasy point results with starter in bold.

Week 1: Hasselbeck 15.58, Grossman 2.80, Losman 2.18. Was outscored by opposing team's QB. (Kitna 26.26).

Season total FP: 15.58

Current league rank in QB scoring: 6th
Thats cool. For me to have Hassle, Gross and Losman... would be 1 starting QB with 2 back ups. Only a top 5 defense would make me rethink Hass. I mean look at Losman and Grossman. :thumbup:

 

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