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SECOND HALF STUDS....due to changing situations. (1 Viewer)
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mquinnjr
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Vicktimized
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Harvin is the best buy low in the league right now.
His early schedule has been murder, for the most part, against opposing receivers. SD looks a little weaker after the OAK game, but locked everyone down in the prior weeks. Dallas has handcuffed opposing wrs. Denver's done a nice job. Harvin had two productive games to start the year ... his softest matchup after that was WAS and it was a dud, but he also got jobbed by the officials (he scored three times! we've seen the ability is still there, literally playing out before our eyes)
Most of all, his upcoming schedule is fluffy. STL this week. CAR. OAK. The Giants and KC are respectable, though K has given up a td every game to wrs. Then easy ARI and PHI sandwiched around a tough SF game.
Either DBs the likes of Roman Harper and Usama Young contain Harvin, or Harvin goes on a binge.
Edit to add: I do agree, though, with the dismissal of Spiller. He's not bouncing back, IMO. Not a fit for that blocking scheme and Jackson is, but the coaches have to try and mix in a guy with Spiller's pedigree. He's been in trade rumors since preseason and they flipped a pick for Bryce Brown ... they aren't enamored with him, IMO, and unlike Harvin, I don't see where coaches are going to turn to "gear to him more" as an answer.
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cheese
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Some really good points here that have tempered my Miller enthusiasm a little. Another related issue for Lamar is the team not imploding. I think the Dolphins are pretty awful and it will be a lot easier for him to be a RB1 if the team can stay above water.
cheese
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I get tired of the idea that spiller is poorly used. Guys that you have to go THIS far out of your way to utilize are just not that valuable in NFL terms, which is translating to fantasy. He's a niche player and nobody has deemed it worth it to change what they're doing to accommodate him. I don't really blame them. Same can probably said for some of the disappointing wrs harvin and Patterson to some extent.
zamboni
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Agree. People see what they want to see and think that they are capable of coaching better than the guys whose whole careers have been spent on the sidelines. It may just be that as athletic as he is, Spiller has his limitations and is just a situational player in NFL terms.
Sabertooth
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Garcon is a great one. I could see his usage going up. I actually just traded for him in a dynasty league for this reason.
Guys just wanted to say thanks for the great responses. Started this thread to critically analyze situations and I have gotten a ton of info and knowledge. Making decisions on anything in life is ultimately a " leap of faith" but these leaps are smaller when supported by fact.
And for what it's worth I have seen much better analysis here then a lot of the experts throw out, who seem to just play it safe every week.
Spiller....would like to see him on a team like the Saints or Eagles. I know those 2 creative offensive minds would put him in packages to succeed. He is an RBBC back pure and simple IMHO.
And for what it's worth I have seen much better analysis here then a lot of the experts throw out, who seem to just play it safe every week.
Spiller....would like to see him on a team like the Saints or Eagles. I know those 2 creative offensive minds would put him in packages to succeed. He is an RBBC back pure and simple IMHO.
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Rick James
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I get what you're saying and agree to an extent, but the BUF coaching staff makes it very easy for defenses to know what is about to happen. It's like a few years ago when the Saints only ran the ball when Ingram was in the game. If Spiller is in, it's a run. With Fred Jackson, they have the threat of running and passing. Now you could say that the Bills don't think Spiller is a good pass catcher, but I would disagree with that. From what I saw of him at Clemson, he is a great pass catcher.
So there's definitely something weird going on in Buffalo.
Tanner9919
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I like the Johnathan Stewart call,some easy games on the horizon.
Reuben Randle , it's now or never..no Cruz, and only a rookie WR stands in your way.
Mark Ingram.Carson Palmer.Michael Floyd.James Jones ( Carr is constantly looking his way)
Reuben Randle , it's now or never..no Cruz, and only a rookie WR stands in your way.
Mark Ingram.Carson Palmer.Michael Floyd.James Jones ( Carr is constantly looking his way)
Grahamburn
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seahawk 17
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Marshawn Lynch....
Six carries in a loss to SD, and six carries in a loss to Dallas. Do we see a pattern here?
Seattle will go back to the recipe that won them a SB. Lynch will be money the 2nd part of the season.
Six carries in a loss to SD, and six carries in a loss to Dallas. Do we see a pattern here?
Seattle will go back to the recipe that won them a SB. Lynch will be money the 2nd part of the season.
For me, the biggest obvious is someone who was mentioned by association but not directly.
Tony Romo.
depending on your league scoring he's been good, but not GREAT. he's been a fringe starter/QB2.
But as his back has gone healthier, as they ease back on Murray a little (they just have to) take a look at this schedule in the second half:
WK7 NYG - has historically owned the Giants
WK 8 WSH - 32nd ranked defense against pass in our scoring system
WK 9 - ARI 27th ranked
WK10 JAC - 29th ranked
WK 11 - BYE
WK 12 - NYG
WK 13 - PHI (28th)
WK 14 - CHI (14th)
WK 15 - PHI
WK 16 - IND (7th - but nothing they do SCARES me)
Not to go into Hyperbole, but what would this site be without it? I believe Romo could be a top 5 QB the rest of the way. I've had several trade offers in my Dynasty league for him, as he's my third QB, behind Foles and Kaepernick, but I think the regression of Foles, and my not complete faith in Kaepernick, has had me holding onto Romo steadfastly, mostly because of this schedule.
Tony Romo.
depending on your league scoring he's been good, but not GREAT. he's been a fringe starter/QB2.
But as his back has gone healthier, as they ease back on Murray a little (they just have to) take a look at this schedule in the second half:
WK7 NYG - has historically owned the Giants
WK 8 WSH - 32nd ranked defense against pass in our scoring system
WK 9 - ARI 27th ranked
WK10 JAC - 29th ranked
WK 11 - BYE
WK 12 - NYG
WK 13 - PHI (28th)
WK 14 - CHI (14th)
WK 15 - PHI
WK 16 - IND (7th - but nothing they do SCARES me)
Not to go into Hyperbole, but what would this site be without it? I believe Romo could be a top 5 QB the rest of the way. I've had several trade offers in my Dynasty league for him, as he's my third QB, behind Foles and Kaepernick, but I think the regression of Foles, and my not complete faith in Kaepernick, has had me holding onto Romo steadfastly, mostly because of this schedule.
HULLOBUDMAN
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I have seen Stewart's name in here a few times and I agree the opportunity is there.
Question: Why does Dodds have him estimated for 9 carries this week in his projections when he has no compettion and playing one of the worst run D in the league?
I found that odd and it almost led me away from picking him up this week but I couldn't find any news saying why he may be limited so I took the plunge. Dodds maybe right but I sure hope he missed on this one.
Question: Why does Dodds have him estimated for 9 carries this week in his projections when he has no compettion and playing one of the worst run D in the league?
I found that odd and it almost led me away from picking him up this week but I couldn't find any news saying why he may be limited so I took the plunge. Dodds maybe right but I sure hope he missed on this one.
SaintsInDome2006
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It might be a good idea to see which positions/teams have the most favorable schedule moving forward too.
Cleveland's looks pretty nice, especially for RBs.
Cleveland's looks pretty nice, especially for RBs.
Kendall The Great
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Next week, he will be in the top ten on Dodds, an upgrade, the SOD,
Day late....yada yada yada.
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msudaisy26
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Can't believe no one mentioned Calvin. If they hold him out until after the bye and his ankle is fully healed, you will have a fresh and healthy Calvin going into the stretch run.
doowain
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Sorry man, but this is just simply not true. In 2012, the only season where Spiller has been used as the feature back (due to injury to Fred Jackson), Spiller finished as RB6 in PPR leagues.cheese said:
207 carries
1244 yards (6.0 ypc)
6 TDs
43 rec
459 yards
2 TDs
ETA: FWIW, I don't think he's been "mis-used" at all. He's being underused. He, unfortunately, is playing on a team where the coaching staff feels that Fred Jackson gives them the best chance to win.
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chinawildman
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Gotta disagree, Spiller is just not a very good traditional RB. He seems much more effective on draws, screens, counters where he is given the opportunity to either run by defenders or make them miss in space.
From what I've noticed about his play, he seems to be averse to having any defender within a yard of him and is always trying to run away from or juke defenders (some that are being blocked and probably don't even have a shot at tackling him). Probably why he's constantly trying to bounce plays to the outside.
tombonneau
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zamboni
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If Fred gives the team the best chance to win, how is Spiller being underused?
That's where we have to separate fantasy from real NFL terms. Spiller may have great natural ability, but if doesn't translate that well to NFL team success, it goes unused.
ConnSKINS26
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Ball. He comes back around week 9 and all of a sudden they're playing a bunch of terrible run defenses.
Would like to add Jermaine Kearse here......with Harvin trade someone will step up in the Hawks passing
Game. He was Harvins direct backup and has toughness in traffic , is a good blocker, has deep speed and is a good red zone target. Had 7 targets last week against Dallas 3-62 and paced Seatlle at both. Richardson is the other here " due to circumstances " but being a rookie with suspect blocking ability I see him as a 3 wr set guy for now. Sunday will provide a bit more clarity but this is an interesting situation to watch.
Game. He was Harvins direct backup and has toughness in traffic , is a good blocker, has deep speed and is a good red zone target. Had 7 targets last week against Dallas 3-62 and paced Seatlle at both. Richardson is the other here " due to circumstances " but being a rookie with suspect blocking ability I see him as a 3 wr set guy for now. Sunday will provide a bit more clarity but this is an interesting situation to watch.
Jerry Curl
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Jack White
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Jack White
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Yes, and it's the same reason I've been advising people to not get overly excited about Lamar Miller.
T with T
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T with T
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what about Colin Kaepernick? he seems to be hitting stride as a top10 qb going furtherCam is a good call. If he starts running again I think he's a top 5 guy. I also think Carr might end up being a solid QBBC guy.Great thread and good job supporting the names being thrown out.
WR Dez Bryant for same reasons listed above for Witten. Cowboys won't be leading all the time like they have been. Terrance Williams TD pace can't be sustained, and same goes for Murray's usage. Bryant has been really good, but a couple of monster outings are on the horizon. Also realize that the NFC East secondaries can be feasted on, and this weekend is the first division game for Dallas.
TE Jordan Cameron - Think he just wasn't healthy. They like to run and are spreading it a bit in the passing game, but Cameron remains best option in passing game until Gordon comes back. Already has several long receptions this year.
QB Cam - Adding back in 5-10 rushes per game is huge for his value. No consistent running backs to take touches. Olsen playing at a career high level, and Benjamin beasting. Lovely home division games against NO, Atl, and TB still on the schedule. Plus Car DST seems way off versus last year.
RB - Lynch - Top 10 RB despite being past the bye and not being used as much as last year. 3-2 record for Seattle probably the best thing to happen to his value. Beastmode looks as good as ever and will be fed more going forward.
Chaka
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Hard to disagree. Stewart has been teasing owners with unfulfilled potential since 2010.
devouredbychaos
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This brings the lulz. Matthews is far superior, and will reclaim his role when he's back.
SameSongNDance
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Yeah, volume and even playing time hasn't been there for Miller with Moreno out (he's averaged 62% of the offensive snaps and 16 touches per game). It a) makes what he's done more impressive and b) simultaneously makes me dislike his future prospects. He's currently a RB1, I don't know if he finishes the year as a RB1.
I don't think he's actually washed up (he's young) but maybe a little overweight haha. I'm also pretty sure PFF had given him a pretty high elusive rating this year. He was creating a lot of things on his own it's just that CAR's OL is ####### awful. I owned JStew in two leagues but promptly dropped him after his injury because his ceiling is essentially RB3 behind that line, with his injury history. Plus Cam is running again and running well. I don't think he (JStew) is worth the headache.
The team runs too much (3rd most) and passes too little (4th least) so his ceiling is capped. He buoys his floor with rushing yards, however. I've been leaning on Kaep in one league and I'm pleased but that's mostly because I can count on his ~20 ppg. There's a lot less variance with Kaep.what about Colin Kaepernick? he seems to be hitting stride as a top10 qb going furtherCam is a good call. If he starts running again I think he's a top 5 guy. I also think Carr might end up being a solid QBBC guy.Great thread and good job supporting the names being thrown out.
WR Dez Bryant for same reasons listed above for Witten. Cowboys won't be leading all the time like they have been. Terrance Williams TD pace can't be sustained, and same goes for Murray's usage. Bryant has been really good, but a couple of monster outings are on the horizon. Also realize that the NFC East secondaries can be feasted on, and this weekend is the first division game for Dallas.
TE Jordan Cameron - Think he just wasn't healthy. They like to run and are spreading it a bit in the passing game, but Cameron remains best option in passing game until Gordon comes back. Already has several long receptions this year.
QB Cam - Adding back in 5-10 rushes per game is huge for his value. No consistent running backs to take touches. Olsen playing at a career high level, and Benjamin beasting. Lovely home division games against NO, Atl, and TB still on the schedule. Plus Car DST seems way off versus last year.
RB - Lynch - Top 10 RB despite being past the bye and not being used as much as last year. 3-2 record for Seattle probably the best thing to happen to his value. Beastmode looks as good as ever and will be fed more going forward.
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Tanner9919
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D. McFadden
chinawildman
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Percy Harvin. The immediate reaction to this trade is that Russell Wilson -> Geno Smith is a downgrade.
... until you realize that the actual downgrade for Harvin's production came when he went from Ponder -> Wilson. Curious also why the Jets waived David Nelson, their "starter" at WR by snapcount to make room for Harvin. Could be that they're counting on Percy to be an every down player.
... until you realize that the actual downgrade for Harvin's production came when he went from Ponder -> Wilson. Curious also why the Jets waived David Nelson, their "starter" at WR by snapcount to make room for Harvin. Could be that they're counting on Percy to be an every down player.
Slider
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Far superior? I realize you own him and all but if Oliver doesn't get hurt for 8 games his first 3 years he probably has a leg up. Also not sure what you're watching that you saw far superior. I own neither but both looked pretty good.
Hoot McGoot
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Traded Bradshaw and Sanders for Calvin yesterday in case anyone is trying to determine value. I feel I maybe paid a little high atm but we're talking a possibly fully healthy calvin week 10+. I'll take it.
SecondString
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Derek Carr. Okay, a stretch to say he will be a "stud", but will become and will remain to be a very serviceable fantasy QB.
Chaka
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For 2-3 weeks then MJD for another 2-3 then either back to McFadden (if he's healthy again) Marcel Reese or Latavius Murray for lack of any other options.
T with T
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T with T
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are u kidding man? u think u paid a little high of a price for Megatron get real.. sanders and bradshaw LOL you got away with highway robbery LMAO. Laugh to the bank and keep the dumb comments off the board... Please Geez o peats LMAO
doowain
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Did you laugh off only one cheek at a time? If not that second LMAO needs to be edited to a LOL.
BustedKnuckles
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SameSongNDance
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Hoot McGoot
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I would ask you to do the same thing. I also said 'I feel I maybe' but after your reaction, I guess I did pretty well.T with T said:
buymeagoat
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Looks like he is not the TE to have on Dallas. I agreed with you until today. Witten is a shadow of his former self and seems to be utilized mainly as a blocking TE at this point. Romo barely looks at him anymore. The romance has cooled!
SaintsInDome2006
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Anyone see any of these predictions coming true, or any new thoughts based on what is happening?
ETA, best one I've seen so far:
ETA, best one I've seen so far:
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Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
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