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'Statorama said:
I just picture Obama pulling a Captain McMahon from "Speed"...

"You're all effing FIRED"

I guess the professor will have to do

Hey, I give Obama a pass on this one. He doesn't want to get shot, blown up, etc. He seems like the kind of boss that would give his staffers a little extra rope and be a little more casual...I just don't think he realized how lax it had become.

As much as I disagree with him policy wise, I'm pissed off that the guys who have the job of keeping him safe let him down. He's the President of the United States. Get your act together, do your job, and protect the well being of our nation's leader.
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Woah woah woah! Don't step away from the schtick, Stat!
 
New details emerged Wednesday. A 24-year-old self-described prostitute told The New York Times that she met an agent at a discotheque in Cartagena and after a night of drinking, the pair agreed the agent would pay her $800 for sex at the hotel. The next morning, when the hotel's front desk called because the woman hadn't left, the pair argued over the price."I tell him, 'Baby, my cash money,'" the woman told the newspaper in an interview in Colombia. She said the two argued after the agent initially offered to pay her about $30 and the situation escalated, eventually ending with Colombian law enforcement involved. She said she was eventually paid about $225.
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I figured it was something like this. Probably miscommunication, which then led to an argument over price. There's a big communication gap between $800 and $30.
 
If the guy agreed to pay her a price and then said no, throw him out on his ###. We need to demonstrate for the world that our government employees do not do takesy backsies and the like. Ef this guy. I'm sure he's a hit with the others who have now been outed, as well. What a tool.

 
'Apple Jack said:
If the guy agreed to pay her a price and then said no, throw him out on his ###. We need to demonstrate for the world that our government employees do not do takesy backsies and the like. Ef this guy. I'm sure he's a hit with the others who have now been outed, as well. What a tool.
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If she tried to charge him $800 that's one hellova "gringo tax". I bet he understood it to be 800,000 pesos which would be about $450 at the moment. Who knows. :shrug:
 
'jon_mx said:
'Dragons said:
'jon_mx said:
'Apple Jack said:
'jon_mx said:
'Apple Jack said:
You don't seem to have much of an understanding of how the intelligence community works.
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More than you will ever know.
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I'm thinking not so much. And what Dragons said.
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And Dragon is clueless about clearances.
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And you have a reading comprehension problem.
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Your questioned implied Senators have top secret clearances. That is not true. Elected officials get access to information based on their elected position. None of them undergo a background check.
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Actually it has absolutely nothing to do with their 'Elected Position', but something called 'Need to Know' (and they will usually be immediately de-briefed following).You 'guys-in-the-know' should stop it now... :rolleyes:
 
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'Major said:
Hotel Caribe is a little out of the way. Stay in Old Town when you visit Cartagena. The Sofitel was :moneybag: .I was amazed at how many wimmenz had asss implants down there. They looked like little burras.
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I wanted to stay in the Old City, but preferred an apartment and all the ones I saw there were too small or too expensive.I really, really disliked the ### implants. Ugly.
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Yeah, and you ain't kidding the Sofitel is :moneybag: . Like $300/night :moneybag: . No thanks.
 
'FigJam said:
'jon_mx said:
'Dragons said:
'jon_mx said:
'Apple Jack said:
'jon_mx said:
'Apple Jack said:
You don't seem to have much of an understanding of how the intelligence community works.
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More than you will ever know.
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I'm thinking not so much. And what Dragons said.
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And Dragon is clueless about clearances.
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And you have a reading comprehension problem.
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Your questioned implied Senators have top secret clearances. That is not true. Elected officials get access to information based on their elected position. None of them undergo a background check.
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Actually it has absolutely nothing to do with their 'Elected Position', but something called 'Need to Know' (and they will usually be immediately de-briefed following).You 'guys-in-the-know' should stop it now... :rolleyes:
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No, it has to do with both. Just having a need to know does not cut it, you must have the appropriate clearance level also, or be exempted by your elected position. We were not talking about what is required to access classified information, it was a discussion on clearances. So I am not sure what your point was beyond being an ###.
 
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'jon_mx said:
Please change the headling, it is very misleading....She is an ESCORT, not a prostitute! :banned:
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They are very particular about this down there (the girls, I mean). My overall impression of it is that a prostitute is the lowest class, basically almost like someone who works the street and does it to survive. An escort would be someone who works in the strip club and is doing it for the money, but not necessarily to survive. The line then blurs a little more to prepago and oportunista, who could just be college students who go to the regular club every weekend or whenever they might need a quick buck to buy books or shoes or something.
 
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'TexanFan02 said:
$800 bucks? In Colombia? For a chick with a kid? I would have protested too.
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You must not travel much. It's not like he's picking up some whore off the street. Cartegena is expensive and these high class establishments aren't cheap. I'd say the going gringo rate for her would be at least $200. The price varies for gringos. If you can speak Spanish and have some charm than you could get it down to that rate. $400 a person sounds about right if you have no negotiation skills.
 
'Major said:
'TexanFan02 said:
$800 bucks? In Colombia? For a chick with a kid? I would have protested too.
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You must not travel much. It's not like he's picking up some whore off the street. Cartegena is expensive and these high class establishments aren't cheap. I'd say the going gringo rate for her would be at least $200. The price varies for gringos. If you can speak Spanish and have some charm than you could get it down to that rate. $400 a person sounds about right if you have no negotiation skills.
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:lmao:
 
'Major said:
'TexanFan02 said:
$800 bucks? In Colombia? For a chick with a kid? I would have protested too.
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You must not travel much. It's not like he's picking up some whore off the street. Cartegena is expensive and these high class establishments aren't cheap. I'd say the going gringo rate for her would be at least $200. The price varies for gringos. If you can speak Spanish and have some charm than you could get it down to that rate. $400 a person sounds about right if you have no negotiation skills.
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:popcorn:
 
'Major said:
'TexanFan02 said:
$800 bucks? In Colombia? For a chick with a kid? I would have protested too.
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You must not travel much. It's not like he's picking up some whore off the street. Cartegena is expensive and these high class establishments aren't cheap. I'd say the going gringo rate for her would be at least $200. The price varies for gringos. If you can speak Spanish and have some charm than you could get it down to that rate. $400 a person sounds about right if you have no negotiation skills.
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I'm not sure I'd call Pley Club high class, but I don't think I inquired as to the prices either.
 
'Apple Jack said:
'Major said:
'TexanFan02 said:
$800 bucks? In Colombia? For a chick with a kid? I would have protested too.
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You must not travel much. It's not like he's picking up some whore off the street. Cartegena is expensive and these high class establishments aren't cheap. I'd say the going gringo rate for her would be at least $200. The price varies for gringos. If you can speak Spanish and have some charm than you could get it down to that rate. $400 a person sounds about right if you have no negotiation skills.
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'Jojo the circus boy said:
Last time I was there a few years ago they would usually start at $80-100 and you would negotiated down to $60 or less. Occasionally you would hear $200 but then you would not see that girl leave with anyone.
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In Mexico you can have them for about $50 and stay on the safe side or you can roll the dice and go with a $20 and have your crotch on fire in the morning.
 
'Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
'Jojo the circus boy said:
Last time I was there a few years ago they would usually start at $80-100 and you would negotiated down to $60 or less. Occasionally you would hear $200 but then you would not see that girl leave with anyone.
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In Mexico you can have them for about $50 and stay on the safe side or you can roll the dice and go with a $20 and have your crotch on fire in the morning.
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$50 and stay on the safe side.... :lmao:
 
'Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
'Jojo the circus boy said:
Last time I was there a few years ago they would usually start at $80-100 and you would negotiated down to $60 or less. Occasionally you would hear $200 but then you would not see that girl leave with anyone.
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In Mexico you can have them for about $50 and stay on the safe side or you can roll the dice and go with a $20 and have your crotch on fire in the morning.
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Cartagena is not cheap like most of Mexico. $10-15 a drink at the decent bars.
 
'Major said:
'Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
'Jojo the circus boy said:
Last time I was there a few years ago they would usually start at $80-100 and you would negotiated down to $60 or less. Occasionally you would hear $200 but then you would not see that girl leave with anyone.
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In Mexico you can have them for about $50 and stay on the safe side or you can roll the dice and go with a $20 and have your crotch on fire in the morning.
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Cartagena is not cheap like most of Mexico. $10-15 a drink at the decent bars.
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Yeah, I was paying 10,000 a beer at several places and was NOT happy about it.
 
'jon_mx said:
3 agents out in wake of Secret Service scandal

By ALICIA A. CALDWELL, Associated Press – 30 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Moving swiftly, the Secret Service forced out three agents Wednesday in a prostitution scandal that has embarrassed President Barack Obama. A senior congressman welcomed the move to hold people responsible for the tawdry episode but warned "it's not over."

The agency announced three agents are leaving the service even as separate U.S. government investigations were under way.

The Secret Service did not identify the agents being forced out of the government or eight more it said remain on administrative leave. In a statement, it said one supervisor was allowed to retire and another will be fired for cause. A third employee, who was not a supervisor, has resigned.

The agents were implicated in the prostitution scandal in Colombia that also involved about 10 military service members and as many as 20 women. All the Secret Service employees who were involved had their security clearances revoked.

"These are the first steps," said Rep. Pete King, R-N.Y., chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, which oversees the Secret Service. King said the agency's director, Mark Sullivan, took employment action against "the three people he believes the case was clearest against." But King warned: "It's certainly not over."

King said the agent set to be fired would sue. King said Sullivan had to follow collective bargaining rules but was "moving as quickly as he can. Once he feels the facts are clear, he's going to move."

The embarrassing scandal erupted last week after 11 Secret Service agents were sent home from the colonial-era city of Cartagena on Colombia's Caribbean coast after a night of partying that reportedly ended with at least some of them bringing prostitutes back to their hotel. The special agents and uniformed officers were in Colombia in advance of President Barack Obama's arrival for the Summit of the Americas.

A White House official said Wednesday night that Obama had not spoken directly to Sullivan since the incident unfolded late last week. Obama's senior aides are in close contact with Sullivan and the agency's leadership, said the official, who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

In Washington and Colombia, separate U.S. government investigations were already under way. King said he has assigned four congressional investigators to the probe. The House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, led by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., sought details of the Secret Service investigation, including the disciplinary histories of the agents involved. Secret Service investigators are in Colombia interviewing witnesses.

In a letter to Sullivan, Issa and Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, the committee's ranking Democrat, said the agents "brought foreign nationals in contact with sensitive security information." A potential security breach has been among the concerns raised by members of Congress.

The incident occurred before Obama arrived and was at a different hotel than the president stayed in.

Sen. Chuck Grassley, the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said news of the three agents leaving Secret Service was a positive development.

"I've always said that if heads don't roll, the culture in a federal agency will never change," the Iowa lawmaker said in a statement. "Today's personnel actions, combined with the swift removal and investigation, are positive signs that there is a serious effort to get to the bottom of this scandal."

New details emerged Wednesday. A 24-year-old self-described prostitute told The New York Times that she met an agent at a discotheque in Cartagena and after a night of drinking, the pair agreed the agent would pay her $800 for sex at the hotel. The next morning, when the hotel's front desk called because the woman hadn't left, the pair argued over the price.

"I tell him, 'Baby, my cash money,'" the woman told the newspaper in an interview in Colombia. She said the two argued after the agent initially offered to pay her about $30 and the situation escalated, eventually ending with Colombian law enforcement involved. She said she was eventually paid about $225.

The episode took a sharp political turn when presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney said he would fire the agents involved.

Romney told radio host Laura Ingraham on Wednesday that "I'd clean house" at the Secret Service.

"The right thing to do is to remove people who have violated the public trust and have put their play time and their personal interests ahead of the interests of the nation," Romney said.

While Romney suggested to Ingraham that a leadership problem led to the scandal, he told a Columbus, Ohio, radio station earlier that he has confidence in Sullivan, the head of the agency.

"I believe the right corrective action will be taken there and obviously everyone is very, very disappointed," Romney said. "I think it will be dealt with (in) as aggressive a way as is possible given the requirements of the law."

When asked, the Romney campaign would not say whether he had been briefed on the situation or was relying upon media reports for details.

At least 10 military personnel who were staying at the same hotel are also being investigated for misconduct.

Two U.S. military officials have said they include five Army Green Berets. One of the officials said the group also includes two Navy Explosive Ordinance Disposal technicians, two Marine dog handlers and an Air Force airman. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is still under way.

Secret Service's Office of Professional Responsibility, which handles that agency's internal affairs, is investigating, and the Homeland Security Department's inspector general also has been notified.

Sullivan, who this week has briefed lawmakers behind closed doors, said he has referred to the case to an independent government investigator.

Secret Service investigators have interviewed all of the hotel's maids and cleaning ladies as part of its investigation, according to a person familiar with the investigation. The person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the person was not authorized to speak publicly about the ongoing probe, said investigators have not found any drugs or drug paraphernalia in the agents' rooms.

King said the agency was "reasonably confident" that drug use was not an issue with the three agents forced out on Wednesday. But he said Secret Service investigators would continue to look into whether drugs played a role in the incident as it continues talking to the other eight agents involved.

"Everything is on the table," the congressman said.

Col. Scott Malcom, a spokesman of U.S. Southern Command, which organized the military team assigned to support the Secret Service's mission in Cartagena, said Wednesday that an Air Force colonel is leading the military investigation and arrived in Colombia with a military lawyer Tuesday morning.

The troops are suspected of violating curfews set by their commanders.

"They were either not in their room or they showed up to their room late while all this was going on or they were in their room with somebody who shouldn't be there," Malcom said.

Lawmakers have called for a thorough investigation and have suggested they would hold oversight hearings, though none has yet been scheduled. The incident is expected to come up next week on Wednesday when Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano appears before the Senate Judiciary Committee for a previously scheduled oversight hearing.

House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, said that for now, he is interested in what actually happened. He did not address how much responsibility Obama should bear for the scandal or whether Congress should hold hearings on it.
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$800 for a Colombian hooker? These guys ought to be fired for stupidity.
 
'bueno said:
'jon_mx said:
3 agents out in wake of Secret Service scandal

By ALICIA A. CALDWELL, Associated Press – 30 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Moving swiftly, the Secret Service forced out three agents Wednesday in a prostitution scandal that has embarrassed President Barack Obama. A senior congressman welcomed the move to hold people responsible for the tawdry episode but warned "it's not over."

The agency announced three agents are leaving the service even as separate U.S. government investigations were under way.

The Secret Service did not identify the agents being forced out of the government or eight more it said remain on administrative leave. In a statement, it said one supervisor was allowed to retire and another will be fired for cause. A third employee, who was not a supervisor, has resigned.

The agents were implicated in the prostitution scandal in Colombia that also involved about 10 military service members and as many as 20 women. All the Secret Service employees who were involved had their security clearances revoked.

"These are the first steps," said Rep. Pete King, R-N.Y., chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, which oversees the Secret Service. King said the agency's director, Mark Sullivan, took employment action against "the three people he believes the case was clearest against." But King warned: "It's certainly not over."

King said the agent set to be fired would sue. King said Sullivan had to follow collective bargaining rules but was "moving as quickly as he can. Once he feels the facts are clear, he's going to move."

The embarrassing scandal erupted last week after 11 Secret Service agents were sent home from the colonial-era city of Cartagena on Colombia's Caribbean coast after a night of partying that reportedly ended with at least some of them bringing prostitutes back to their hotel. The special agents and uniformed officers were in Colombia in advance of President Barack Obama's arrival for the Summit of the Americas.

A White House official said Wednesday night that Obama had not spoken directly to Sullivan since the incident unfolded late last week. Obama's senior aides are in close contact with Sullivan and the agency's leadership, said the official, who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

In Washington and Colombia, separate U.S. government investigations were already under way. King said he has assigned four congressional investigators to the probe. The House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, led by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., sought details of the Secret Service investigation, including the disciplinary histories of the agents involved. Secret Service investigators are in Colombia interviewing witnesses.

In a letter to Sullivan, Issa and Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, the committee's ranking Democrat, said the agents "brought foreign nationals in contact with sensitive security information." A potential security breach has been among the concerns raised by members of Congress.

The incident occurred before Obama arrived and was at a different hotel than the president stayed in.

Sen. Chuck Grassley, the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said news of the three agents leaving Secret Service was a positive development.

"I've always said that if heads don't roll, the culture in a federal agency will never change," the Iowa lawmaker said in a statement. "Today's personnel actions, combined with the swift removal and investigation, are positive signs that there is a serious effort to get to the bottom of this scandal."

New details emerged Wednesday. A 24-year-old self-described prostitute told The New York Times that she met an agent at a discotheque in Cartagena and after a night of drinking, the pair agreed the agent would pay her $800 for sex at the hotel. The next morning, when the hotel's front desk called because the woman hadn't left, the pair argued over the price.

"I tell him, 'Baby, my cash money,'" the woman told the newspaper in an interview in Colombia. She said the two argued after the agent initially offered to pay her about $30 and the situation escalated, eventually ending with Colombian law enforcement involved. She said she was eventually paid about $225.

The episode took a sharp political turn when presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney said he would fire the agents involved.

Romney told radio host Laura Ingraham on Wednesday that "I'd clean house" at the Secret Service.

"The right thing to do is to remove people who have violated the public trust and have put their play time and their personal interests ahead of the interests of the nation," Romney said.

While Romney suggested to Ingraham that a leadership problem led to the scandal, he told a Columbus, Ohio, radio station earlier that he has confidence in Sullivan, the head of the agency.

"I believe the right corrective action will be taken there and obviously everyone is very, very disappointed," Romney said. "I think it will be dealt with (in) as aggressive a way as is possible given the requirements of the law."

When asked, the Romney campaign would not say whether he had been briefed on the situation or was relying upon media reports for details.

At least 10 military personnel who were staying at the same hotel are also being investigated for misconduct.

Two U.S. military officials have said they include five Army Green Berets. One of the officials said the group also includes two Navy Explosive Ordinance Disposal technicians, two Marine dog handlers and an Air Force airman. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is still under way.

Secret Service's Office of Professional Responsibility, which handles that agency's internal affairs, is investigating, and the Homeland Security Department's inspector general also has been notified.

Sullivan, who this week has briefed lawmakers behind closed doors, said he has referred to the case to an independent government investigator.

Secret Service investigators have interviewed all of the hotel's maids and cleaning ladies as part of its investigation, according to a person familiar with the investigation. The person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the person was not authorized to speak publicly about the ongoing probe, said investigators have not found any drugs or drug paraphernalia in the agents' rooms.

King said the agency was "reasonably confident" that drug use was not an issue with the three agents forced out on Wednesday. But he said Secret Service investigators would continue to look into whether drugs played a role in the incident as it continues talking to the other eight agents involved.

"Everything is on the table," the congressman said.

Col. Scott Malcom, a spokesman of U.S. Southern Command, which organized the military team assigned to support the Secret Service's mission in Cartagena, said Wednesday that an Air Force colonel is leading the military investigation and arrived in Colombia with a military lawyer Tuesday morning.

The troops are suspected of violating curfews set by their commanders.

"They were either not in their room or they showed up to their room late while all this was going on or they were in their room with somebody who shouldn't be there," Malcom said.

Lawmakers have called for a thorough investigation and have suggested they would hold oversight hearings, though none has yet been scheduled. The incident is expected to come up next week on Wednesday when Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano appears before the Senate Judiciary Committee for a previously scheduled oversight hearing.

House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, said that for now, he is interested in what actually happened. He did not address how much responsibility Obama should bear for the scandal or whether Congress should hold hearings on it.
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$800 for a Colombian hooker? These guys ought to be fired for stupidity.
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You must not travel much (or so I've been told).

 
'TexanFan02 said:
'bueno said:
'jon_mx said:
3 agents out in wake of Secret Service scandal

By ALICIA A. CALDWELL, Associated Press – 30 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Moving swiftly, the Secret Service forced out three agents Wednesday in a prostitution scandal that has embarrassed President Barack Obama. A senior congressman welcomed the move to hold people responsible for the tawdry episode but warned "it's not over."

The agency announced three agents are leaving the service even as separate U.S. government investigations were under way.

The Secret Service did not identify the agents being forced out of the government or eight more it said remain on administrative leave. In a statement, it said one supervisor was allowed to retire and another will be fired for cause. A third employee, who was not a supervisor, has resigned.

The agents were implicated in the prostitution scandal in Colombia that also involved about 10 military service members and as many as 20 women. All the Secret Service employees who were involved had their security clearances revoked.

"These are the first steps," said Rep. Pete King, R-N.Y., chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, which oversees the Secret Service. King said the agency's director, Mark Sullivan, took employment action against "the three people he believes the case was clearest against." But King warned: "It's certainly not over."

King said the agent set to be fired would sue. King said Sullivan had to follow collective bargaining rules but was "moving as quickly as he can. Once he feels the facts are clear, he's going to move."

The embarrassing scandal erupted last week after 11 Secret Service agents were sent home from the colonial-era city of Cartagena on Colombia's Caribbean coast after a night of partying that reportedly ended with at least some of them bringing prostitutes back to their hotel. The special agents and uniformed officers were in Colombia in advance of President Barack Obama's arrival for the Summit of the Americas.

A White House official said Wednesday night that Obama had not spoken directly to Sullivan since the incident unfolded late last week. Obama's senior aides are in close contact with Sullivan and the agency's leadership, said the official, who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

In Washington and Colombia, separate U.S. government investigations were already under way. King said he has assigned four congressional investigators to the probe. The House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, led by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., sought details of the Secret Service investigation, including the disciplinary histories of the agents involved. Secret Service investigators are in Colombia interviewing witnesses.

In a letter to Sullivan, Issa and Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, the committee's ranking Democrat, said the agents "brought foreign nationals in contact with sensitive security information." A potential security breach has been among the concerns raised by members of Congress.

The incident occurred before Obama arrived and was at a different hotel than the president stayed in.

Sen. Chuck Grassley, the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said news of the three agents leaving Secret Service was a positive development.

"I've always said that if heads don't roll, the culture in a federal agency will never change," the Iowa lawmaker said in a statement. "Today's personnel actions, combined with the swift removal and investigation, are positive signs that there is a serious effort to get to the bottom of this scandal."

New details emerged Wednesday. A 24-year-old self-described prostitute told The New York Times that she met an agent at a discotheque in Cartagena and after a night of drinking, the pair agreed the agent would pay her $800 for sex at the hotel. The next morning, when the hotel's front desk called because the woman hadn't left, the pair argued over the price.

"I tell him, 'Baby, my cash money,'" the woman told the newspaper in an interview in Colombia. She said the two argued after the agent initially offered to pay her about $30 and the situation escalated, eventually ending with Colombian law enforcement involved. She said she was eventually paid about $225.

The episode took a sharp political turn when presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney said he would fire the agents involved.

Romney told radio host Laura Ingraham on Wednesday that "I'd clean house" at the Secret Service.

"The right thing to do is to remove people who have violated the public trust and have put their play time and their personal interests ahead of the interests of the nation," Romney said.

While Romney suggested to Ingraham that a leadership problem led to the scandal, he told a Columbus, Ohio, radio station earlier that he has confidence in Sullivan, the head of the agency.

"I believe the right corrective action will be taken there and obviously everyone is very, very disappointed," Romney said. "I think it will be dealt with (in) as aggressive a way as is possible given the requirements of the law."

When asked, the Romney campaign would not say whether he had been briefed on the situation or was relying upon media reports for details.

At least 10 military personnel who were staying at the same hotel are also being investigated for misconduct.

Two U.S. military officials have said they include five Army Green Berets. One of the officials said the group also includes two Navy Explosive Ordinance Disposal technicians, two Marine dog handlers and an Air Force airman. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is still under way.

Secret Service's Office of Professional Responsibility, which handles that agency's internal affairs, is investigating, and the Homeland Security Department's inspector general also has been notified.

Sullivan, who this week has briefed lawmakers behind closed doors, said he has referred to the case to an independent government investigator.

Secret Service investigators have interviewed all of the hotel's maids and cleaning ladies as part of its investigation, according to a person familiar with the investigation. The person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the person was not authorized to speak publicly about the ongoing probe, said investigators have not found any drugs or drug paraphernalia in the agents' rooms.

King said the agency was "reasonably confident" that drug use was not an issue with the three agents forced out on Wednesday. But he said Secret Service investigators would continue to look into whether drugs played a role in the incident as it continues talking to the other eight agents involved.

"Everything is on the table," the congressman said.

Col. Scott Malcom, a spokesman of U.S. Southern Command, which organized the military team assigned to support the Secret Service's mission in Cartagena, said Wednesday that an Air Force colonel is leading the military investigation and arrived in Colombia with a military lawyer Tuesday morning.

The troops are suspected of violating curfews set by their commanders.

"They were either not in their room or they showed up to their room late while all this was going on or they were in their room with somebody who shouldn't be there," Malcom said.

Lawmakers have called for a thorough investigation and have suggested they would hold oversight hearings, though none has yet been scheduled. The incident is expected to come up next week on Wednesday when Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano appears before the Senate Judiciary Committee for a previously scheduled oversight hearing.

House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, said that for now, he is interested in what actually happened. He did not address how much responsibility Obama should bear for the scandal or whether Congress should hold hearings on it.
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$800 for a Colombian hooker? These guys ought to be fired for stupidity.
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You must not travel much (or so I've been told).
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You should get out more, bro.
 
I'm still underwhelmed by this story. If they violated the rules for their job, they should be held accountable in whatever way is appropriate. But the attention this story is getting is overblown.

 
'Dragons said:
I'm still underwhelmed by this story. If they violated the rules for their job, they should be held accountable in whatever way is appropriate. But the attention this story is getting is overblown.
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Agreed but a story involving hookers and Obama's peeps equals surefire ratings.
 
'Major said:
'Dragons said:
I'm still underwhelmed by this story. If they violated the rules for their job, they should be held accountable in whatever way is appropriate. But the attention this story is getting is overblown.
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Agreed but a story involving hookers and Obama's peeps equals surefire ratings.
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I, for one, wish it would just go away. I really didn't think it would blow up the way it did. And the last thing we need is for our stupid activist society or our stupid reactionary government to start sticking their noses where they don't belong.
 
Report: White House knew of prostitution-scandal link

Government documents and interviews show that White House aides were given information suggesting a presidential advance team member hosted a prostitute in a South America hotel room in 2012, The Washington Post reported.

The news organization also reported that there was no follow-up investigation on the information.

At the time details became public regarding the allegations, the White House denied anyone from the administration was involved. Almost two dozen members of the military and Secret Service were let go or punished in the scandal involving a trip to Cartagena, Colombia.

The Secret Service shared first-hand accounts and hotel documents offering details on at least two occasions with administration officials, including former White House Council Kathryn Ruemmler, the Post reported. Each time, Ruemmler and her team interviewed the presidential advance team member and concluded there was no wrongdoing, according to the Post.

The presidential advance team scopes out locations before a presidential trip, making sure they are secure and ironing out logistical details.

In addition, the lead investigator with the inspector general's office in the Department of Homeland Security reported to U.S. Senate staff members that he felt pressure from his superiors to withhold evidence, seeing as it was an election year, the Post reported.

"We were directed at the time ... to delay the report of the investigation until after the 2012 election," the Post reported that David Nieland, lead investigator, told Senate staffers.

Nieland also said his superiors told him to alter or withhold some information because it was "potentially embarrassing to the administration,' the Post reported.

Charles Edwards, then-acting inspector general, told Senate staffers that any changes to information in a report on the allegations was part of the "normal editing process," according to the Post.

White House spokesman Eric Schultz told the Post that the administration did not interfere with the investigation.

"As was reported more than two years ago, the White House conducted an internal review that did not identify any inappropriate behavior on the part of the White House advance team," the Post quoted Schultz as saying.

The presidential advance team member, White House volunteer Jonathan Dach, then a 25-year-old Yale University law student, through his lawyer denied hiring a prostitute or bringing anyone to his hotel room, according to the Post.

Dach is a policy adviser with the State Department.
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jamny said:
Report: White House knew of prostitution-scandal link

Government documents and interviews show that White House aides were given information suggesting a presidential advance team member hosted a prostitute in a South America hotel room in 2012, The Washington Post reported.

The news organization also reported that there was no follow-up investigation on the information.

At the time details became public regarding the allegations, the White House denied anyone from the administration was involved. Almost two dozen members of the military and Secret Service were let go or punished in the scandal involving a trip to Cartagena, Colombia.

The Secret Service shared first-hand accounts and hotel documents offering details on at least two occasions with administration officials, including former White House Council Kathryn Ruemmler, the Post reported. Each time, Ruemmler and her team interviewed the presidential advance team member and concluded there was no wrongdoing, according to the Post.

The presidential advance team scopes out locations before a presidential trip, making sure they are secure and ironing out logistical details.

In addition, the lead investigator with the inspector general's office in the Department of Homeland Security reported to U.S. Senate staff members that he felt pressure from his superiors to withhold evidence, seeing as it was an election year, the Post reported.

"We were directed at the time ... to delay the report of the investigation until after the 2012 election," the Post reported that David Nieland, lead investigator, told Senate staffers.

Nieland also said his superiors told him to alter or withhold some information because it was "potentially embarrassing to the administration,' the Post reported.

Charles Edwards, then-acting inspector general, told Senate staffers that any changes to information in a report on the allegations was part of the "normal editing process," according to the Post.

White House spokesman Eric Schultz told the Post that the administration did not interfere with the investigation.

"As was reported more than two years ago, the White House conducted an internal review that did not identify any inappropriate behavior on the part of the White House advance team," the Post quoted Schultz as saying.

The presidential advance team member, White House volunteer Jonathan Dach, then a 25-year-old Yale University law student, through his lawyer denied hiring a prostitute or bringing anyone to his hotel room, according to the Post.

Dach is a policy adviser with the State Department.
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I'd like to say I'm shocked at this, but I'm not :no:

 
It is amazing that threads like this just wilt and die. No really it is not.

What the FFA needs is a Republican in the White House so we can once again see all the outrage come back.

 
GrandpaRox said:
It is amazing that threads like this just wilt and die. No really it is not.

What the FFA needs is a Republican in the White House so we can once again see all the outrage come back.
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Yeah, the lack of outrage during the last 6 years is appalling.

 
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