Sell all Vikings after this season. (1 Viewer)

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

The more I read and hear about the Vikings, the more I'm convinced they are selling out for this season and have no plans after it. Of course Favre will be gone (looks around nervously), and there is no one to replace him. Best case scenario is that they draft someone early next year, but in that case you're talking about a 2 year learning curve. I'm convinced Jackson isn't the answer, despite his season in '08, and I think that's the majority opinion.

If I were Sidney Rice, who is in a contract year, I'd make this season an audition for another team in 2011 then cash in as arguably the top WR RFA. Why stick around? Berrian is already a very average player, and the Vikings may not want to keep him. That leaves Harvin, who is talented, but you never know when he'll be available due to his brain cloud, or whatever it is he's got.

Finally, and I'm not trolling here, but I just don't see the Vikings in the superbowl. Anything less would be considered an epic fail in Minnesota. Add in the rumblings that some players don't like Childress, and it's not a stretch to believe he'll be gone after this season, too.

I realize there is some significant speculation in this post, but if all this happens, you've got a team without a QB (or at least with an inexperienced one), a new coaching staff, an aging defense, facing the loss of its #1 WR. This is an 8-8 team, at best, starting in 2011.

AP will likely still be valuable, but his value will never be higher than it is right now. He's the perfect 'sell high' candidate if you move him early in the offseason, because everything that transpires afterward will not help him.

Vikings homers, what's the local thinking over there?

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I think the wheels come off this year. There is no way Favre plays within the system for a full year like he did last season - he's never done that in his entire career and he has even less respect for Chilly than he did last year. He will also miss Chester much more than most people think. The slightest bit of adversity is going to put that whole team on tilt. I'm waiting for the new season win totals to come out so I can fade them. I hope it jumps to 10.5 or so, but I'd be happy if it stayed at 9.5.

 

[Snotbubbles]

The more I read and hear about the Vikings, the more I'm convinced they are selling out for this season and have no plans after it. Of course Favre will be gone (looks around nervously), and there is no one to replace him. Best case scenario is that they draft someone early next year, but in that case you're talking about a 2 year learning curve. I'm convinced Jackson isn't the answer, despite his season in '08, and I think that's the majority opinion.If I were Sidney Rice, who is in a contract year, I'd make this season an audition for another team in 2011 then cash in as arguably the top WR RFA. Why stick around? Berrian is already a very average player, and the Vikings may not want to keep him. That leaves Harvin, who is talented, but you never know when he'll be available due to his brain cloud, or whatever it is he's got.Finally, and I'm not trolling here, but I just don't see the Vikings in the superbowl. Anything less would be considered an epic fail in Minnesota. Add in the rumblings that some players don't like Childress, and it's not a stretch to believe he'll be gone after this season, too.I realize there is some significant speculation in this post, but if all this happens, you've got a team without a QB (or at least with an inexperienced one), a new coaching staff, an aging defense, facing the loss of its #1 WR. This is an 8-8 team, at best, starting in 2011.AP will likely still be valuable, but his value will never be higher than it is right now. He's the perfect 'sell high' candidate if you move him early in the offseason, because everything that transpires afterward will not help him.Vikings homers, what's the local thinking over there?

Don't be surprised if Donovan McNabb signs with Minny this offseason. Childress is his former coach and he knows the system.

 

[Clifford]

I think the wheels come off this year. There is no way Favre plays within the system for a full year like he did last season - he's never done that in his entire career and he has even less respect for Chilly than he did last year. He will also miss Chester much more than most people think. The slightest bit of adversity is going to put that whole team on tilt. I'm waiting for the new season win totals to come out so I can fade them. I hope it jumps to 10.5 or so, but I'd be happy if it stayed at 9.5.

I'm plunking down $50 on the under in Vegas next week.

 

[Warehouse Nasty]

I think the wheels come off this year. There is no way Favre plays within the system for a full year like he did last season - he's never done that in his entire career and he has even less respect for Chilly than he did last year. He will also miss Chester much more than most people think. The slightest bit of adversity is going to put that whole team on tilt. I'm waiting for the new season win totals to come out so I can fade them. I hope it jumps to 10.5 or so, but I'd be happy if it stayed at 9.5.

I was just saying this same thing earlier today. Harvin is a mess with the headaches, Rice is far from healthy, the Favre circus is a nightmare and all this rumblings about Childress are, put together, a bad omen. I get the feeling this team somewhat implodes this year.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I think the wheels come off this year. There is no way Favre plays within the system for a full year like he did last season - he's never done that in his entire career and he has even less respect for Chilly than he did last year. He will also miss Chester much more than most people think. The slightest bit of adversity is going to put that whole team on tilt. I'm waiting for the new season win totals to come out so I can fade them. I hope it jumps to 10.5 or so, but I'd be happy if it stayed at 9.5.

I was just saying this same thing earlier today. Harvin is a mess with the headaches, Rice is far from healthy, the Favre circus is a nightmare and all this rumblings about Childress are, put together, a bad omen. I get the feeling this team somewhat implodes this year.

Doubt it. Too much talent.

 

[Doug B]

I think the wheels come off this year. There is no way Favre plays within the system for a full year like he did last season - he's never done that in his entire career and he has even less respect for Chilly than he did last year. He will also miss Chester much more than most people think. The slightest bit of adversity is going to put that whole team on tilt. I'm waiting for the new season win totals to come out so I can fade them. I hope it jumps to 10.5 or so, but I'd be happy if it stayed at 9.5.

This is about where I'm at, too. It's hard to think that this generally solid squad could drop down to eight or nine wins ... but I can see it. I cannot see them repeating 2009.

 

[JohnnyU]

Sounds like a lot wishful thinking from Packers and Bears fans. Look for Minnesota to draft Ryan Mallett next year (they won't have an early enough of a pick for Locker or Luck). A rookie QB doesn't automatically spell doom either. I agree that T Jackson isn't the answer.

 

[John 14:6]

I definitely agree they're selling out for this year and I don't think they'll implode. They faced plenty of adversity last year with the Brett Favre drama, the reported preseason "schism," Harvin's migraines, Brett and Brad bickering on the sideline. I think they have enough talent and veteran leadership to overcome what's going on so far this year.

Next year, though, if Brett and Rice are gone and several key players older, they could be in trouble. However, I won't be selling Peterson or Harvin. If they can sign some good free agents, certain Vikings can still be very productive fantasy options. And something this regime has shown is they are more than willing to go after big name players (Allen, Favre).

 

[zoobird]

Whether you expect them to implode this year or next, now is probably the time to 'sell' if you're in a position to - for example, if you have Minn. receivers in a keeper league. Don't wait until it's obvious to everyone else.

 

[MAC_32]

Re, this season: remember the so called schism last season? I wouldn't be concerned about them falling apart this season. It could happen, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Next season could be bad if Favre doesn't return (ha!) again, but there may also not be any NFL next season so I don't fault the Vikes at all for going for it all now.

 

[TheFanatic]

I definitely agree they're selling out for this year and I don't think they'll implode. They faced plenty of adversity last year with the Brett Favre drama, the reported preseason "schism," Harvin's migraines, Brett and Brad bickering on the sideline. I think they have enough talent and veteran leadership to overcome what's going on so far this year.

All of this happened beyond the 11 month collective memory of the Shark Pool so very few remember it being a train wreck waiting to happen last year that turned into fantasy gold. They're going to be fine this year. Winning cures all ills. Double digit wins this year, minimum....

 

[BlueBandit24]

Sounds like a lot wishful thinking from Packers and Bears fans. Look for Minnesota to draft Ryan Mallett next year (they won't have an early enough of a pick for Locker or Luck). A rookie QB doesn't automatically spell doom either. I agree that T Jackson isn't the answer.

I think Mallett goes Top 10 and could go number one overall. I doubt the Vikings are in a position to draft him.I am a Vikings fan, so I am always braced for an implosion of some sort. However, I think there is a bit too much doom and gloom in the OP. The Wilf's are willing to shell out cash and I am guessing that some guys due a significant raise soon (Peterson, Rice, Greenway) will get it. A lot of young talent is still on hand, though I would expect some turnover as key guys such as Winfield, P. Williams and McKinnie age. And of course, there is no quarterback of the future.

 

[Clifford]

Again, people are completely discounting the fact that this DID happen last season. That's the difference. All the media drama was easier to get over precisely because it was the first time last year. People need to realize that last year was the honeymoon. This is the marriage. And marriage SUCKS.

 

[Clifford]

I definitely agree they're selling out for this year and I don't think they'll implode. They faced plenty of adversity last year with the Brett Favre drama, the reported preseason "schism," Harvin's migraines, Brett and Brad bickering on the sideline. I think they have enough talent and veteran leadership to overcome what's going on so far this year.

All of this happened beyond the 11 month collective memory of the Shark Pool so very few remember it being a train wreck waiting to happen last year that turned into fantasy gold. They're going to be fine this year. Winning cures all ills. Double digit wins this year, minimum....

Go look at their first game. Then look at games 4-9. Setting yourself up where you have to win just to keep your team from turning into Vesuvius is not a good way to go into the season.I'll say it again: if they lose to the Saints and Brett looks noticeable rusty during that game, watch out. ESPN will literally talk about nothing else all week. Players that resented Favre's treatment will begin rumbling louder. Childress will be called out in the media and his players will turn against him even more. There will be enough dysfunction to where they could conceivably lose another game to Miami. It would take a miracle passed through Congress for them to lose to the Lions, but they could be going into a bye week 1-2. They then face the Jets, Cowboys, and Packers.Just saying you don't want to be in a position where a few early losses could completely unhinge the team, and that's where they are.

 

[TheFanatic]

And if they beat the Saints?

 

[Clifford]

Then they probably win the next two and only lose to the Jets, Packers (2x), Giants, Eagles, and maybe the Pats. It's a tough call because except for the stretch after the bye they have a pretty cake schedule. Getting the Bears and Lions twice is a very nice situation for them.

I just can't see this being a team this year. It's already a collection of individuals since they don't have a coach. Introduce a few elements of division, things could get ugly.

 

[JohnnyU]

Sounds like a lot wishful thinking from Packers and Bears fans. Look for Minnesota to draft Ryan Mallett next year (they won't have an early enough of a pick for Locker or Luck). A rookie QB doesn't automatically spell doom either. I agree that T Jackson isn't the answer.

I think Mallett goes Top 10 and could go number one overall. I doubt the Vikings are in a position to draft him.I am a Vikings fan, so I am always braced for an implosion of some sort. However, I think there is a bit too much doom and gloom in the OP. The Wilf's are willing to shell out cash and I am guessing that some guys due a significant raise soon (Peterson, Rice, Greenway) will get it. A lot of young talent is still on hand, though I would expect some turnover as key guys such as Winfield, P. Williams and McKinnie age. And of course, there is no quarterback of the future.

No way Mallett goes before Jake Locker or Andrew Luck.

 

[BlueBandit24]

Sounds like a lot wishful thinking from Packers and Bears fans. Look for Minnesota to draft Ryan Mallett next year (they won't have an early enough of a pick for Locker or Luck). A rookie QB doesn't automatically spell doom either. I agree that T Jackson isn't the answer.

I think Mallett goes Top 10 and could go number one overall. I doubt the Vikings are in a position to draft him.I am a Vikings fan, so I am always braced for an implosion of some sort. However, I think there is a bit too much doom and gloom in the OP. The Wilf's are willing to shell out cash and I am guessing that some guys due a significant raise soon (Peterson, Rice, Greenway) will get it. A lot of young talent is still on hand, though I would expect some turnover as key guys such as Winfield, P. Williams and McKinnie age. And of course, there is no quarterback of the future.

No way Mallett goes before Jake Locker or Andrew Luck.

Agree to disagree. I've learned that saying no way - especially this far in advance - is unwise when it comes to the NFL Draft. I think the Vikings would have to settle for second-tier QB prospect if they're after one in the 1st round next year.

 

[Mister CIA]

Three years ago I thought the Giants were on the verge of scoring the #1 overall in the 2008 draft and that Tom Coughlin was toast. This is tied for first place on my list of NFL things I've been wrong about. ... It's a long list.

 

[ArcticEdge]

I think the wheels come off this year. There is no way Favre plays within the system for a full year like he did last season - he's never done that in his entire career and he has even less respect for Chilly than he did last year. He will also miss Chester much more than most people think. The slightest bit of adversity is going to put that whole team on tilt. I'm waiting for the new season win totals to come out so I can fade them. I hope it jumps to 10.5 or so, but I'd be happy if it stayed at 9.5.

I was just saying this same thing earlier today. Harvin is a mess with the headaches, Rice is far from healthy, the Favre circus is a nightmare and all this rumblings about Childress are, put together, a bad omen. I get the feeling this team somewhat implodes this year.

Austin huh? Maybe you and Keith Brooking can start your own club..

 

[The Real Yoda]

The end of this season is likely too late...if you do want to unload any of them the time is now.

But the shark move is to wait and then acquire them cheaply.

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

The end of this season is likely too late...if you do want to unload any of them the time is now.But the shark move is to wait and then acquire them cheaply.

Naw, people know (I use this word loosely) Brent Farvee's not coming back, so the long-term value isn't going to fool anyone. In that case, you might as well use them this season. I'm suggesting you sell immediately following the playoffs-- before these other speculations I've made come to pass.

 

[kwille]

I am a Vikings fan, so I am always braced for an implosion of some sort.

 

[smackdaddies]

I think the wheels come off this year. There is no way Favre plays within the system for a full year like he did last season - he's never done that in his entire career and he has even less respect for Chilly than he did last year. He will also miss Chester much more than most people think. The slightest bit of adversity is going to put that whole team on tilt. I'm waiting for the new season win totals to come out so I can fade them. I hope it jumps to 10.5 or so, but I'd be happy if it stayed at 9.5.

I was just saying this same thing earlier today. Harvin is a mess with the headaches, Rice is far from healthy, the Favre circus is a nightmare and all this rumblings about Childress are, put together, a bad omen. I get the feeling this team somewhat implodes this year.

Doubt it. Too much talent.

As a queens hater, I agree. the vikes have a strong team. Even with Tavaris as QB, at worst they are 8-8. and a pretty good scoring machine. Not as high scoring as with Farve - so say slide to no worse than 12th best scoring team. I actually think queens players might rate as a buy in dynastyedit - i rate them as a possible buy because there are so many haters - get the right one and you can likely get good value

 

[Warehouse Nasty]

I think the wheels come off this year. There is no way Favre plays within the system for a full year like he did last season - he's never done that in his entire career and he has even less respect for Chilly than he did last year. He will also miss Chester much more than most people think. The slightest bit of adversity is going to put that whole team on tilt. I'm waiting for the new season win totals to come out so I can fade them. I hope it jumps to 10.5 or so, but I'd be happy if it stayed at 9.5.

I was just saying this same thing earlier today. Harvin is a mess with the headaches, Rice is far from healthy, the Favre circus is a nightmare and all this rumblings about Childress are, put together, a bad omen. I get the feeling this team somewhat implodes this year.

Austin huh? Maybe you and Keith Brooking can start your own club..

Update?

 

[Doug B]

I think the wheels come off this year. There is no way Favre plays within the system for a full year like he did last season - he's never done that in his entire career and he has even less respect for Chilly than he did last year. He will also miss Chester much more than most people think. The slightest bit of adversity is going to put that whole team on tilt. I'm waiting for the new season win totals to come out so I can fade them. I hope it jumps to 10.5 or so, but I'd be happy if it stayed at 9.5.

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

Yep. Told ya!

 

[jojoh07]

Yep. Told ya!

Want a cookie ??

 

[2Squirrels1Nut]

I definitely agree they're selling out for this year and I don't think they'll implode. They faced plenty of adversity last year with the Brett Favre drama, the reported preseason "schism," Harvin's migraines, Brett and Brad bickering on the sideline. I think they have enough talent and veteran leadership to overcome what's going on so far this year.

All of this happened beyond the 11 month collective memory of the Shark Pool so very few remember it being a train wreck waiting to happen last year that turned into fantasy gold. They're going to be fine this year. Winning cures all ills. Double digit wins this year, minimum....

Stick to grilling.

 

[Donnybrook]

Yep. Told ya!

This is an 8-8 team, at best, starting in 2011..........

So are you saying that the Vikings will soon be going on a winning streak.

 

[2Squirrels1Nut]

This is an 8-8 team, at best, starting in 2011..........

So are you saying that the Vikings will soon be going on a winning streak.

Do you know what year this is?