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Sell High Buy Low (1 Viewer)
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msudaisy26
Footballguy
I like the idea of buying low in dynasty on Hill, and Miller. In red raft I am buying Miller. His schedule gets easier, Anderson because I think Denver's line will get better,
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Teams on bye this week with 3 RBs who could be gotten (if you want):
Car - Stewart
NYJ - Ivory
Mia - Miller
Not that any of these are true buy low's, but situations can change. Philbin could be canned and owners might think Ivory had his one good game to sell on. Hopeful theorizing for those of us looking to upgrade at RB2.
Car - Stewart
NYJ - Ivory
Mia - Miller
Not that any of these are true buy low's, but situations can change. Philbin could be canned and owners might think Ivory had his one good game to sell on. Hopeful theorizing for those of us looking to upgrade at RB2.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I just pulled this out of CBS, thought it might be interesting, the top 25 most traded players in CBS ("Trade data represents those accepted from CBSSports.com leagues in the past two weeks"):
1. Carson Palmer QB | ARI James Jones WR | GB C.J. Anderson RB | DEN Andrew Luck QB | IND Calvin Johnson WR | DET Jeremy Hill RB | CIN Donte Moncrief WR | IND Philip Rivers QB | SD Doug Martin RB | TB DeMarco Murray RB | PHI LeSean McCoy RB | BUF Justin Forsett RB | BAL Brandin Cooks WR | NO T.Y. Hilton WR | IND Joseph Randle RB | DAL Frank Gore RB | IND Jeremy Maclin WR | KC Ameer Abdullah RB | DET Dez Bryant WR | DAL Marshawn Lynch RB | SEA Alshon Jeffery WR | CHI Chris Ivory RB | NYJ Matthew Stafford QB | DET Alfred Morris RB | WAS 25. Sammy Watkins WR | BUF
1. Carson Palmer QB | ARI James Jones WR | GB C.J. Anderson RB | DEN Andrew Luck QB | IND Calvin Johnson WR | DET Jeremy Hill RB | CIN Donte Moncrief WR | IND Philip Rivers QB | SD Doug Martin RB | TB DeMarco Murray RB | PHI LeSean McCoy RB | BUF Justin Forsett RB | BAL Brandin Cooks WR | NO T.Y. Hilton WR | IND Joseph Randle RB | DAL Frank Gore RB | IND Jeremy Maclin WR | KC Ameer Abdullah RB | DET Dez Bryant WR | DAL Marshawn Lynch RB | SEA Alshon Jeffery WR | CHI Chris Ivory RB | NYJ Matthew Stafford QB | DET Alfred Morris RB | WAS 25. Sammy Watkins WR | BUF
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
I don't see how Demarco bounces back to be honest.
I'd say you're wrong. Right now I'd rather those other two in PPR for sure unless you have two other great weekly startable RBs
Hartliner
Footballguy
My buy low sell high trade: Darren Sproles and (high)David Johnson for (low)Lamar Miller and Travis Benjamin.
I put in for Miller just because the echo of other posts in the other threads makes sense. You know its the usage of the coach's scheme and not the player's talent in question. Just hoping the dolphins assess and recommit to the run. With the bye week, seems like a perfect time for radical change. Plus the miller owner was almost shocked/suspicious when I mentioned him in the trade and happy to get rid of Miller. Feeling good.
Selling high on David Johnson with Andre Ellington coming back and also Arians comments on D. johnson's game recently.I worry that David Johnson time will always be limited barring injury to both chris. J. And ellington.
I put in for Miller just because the echo of other posts in the other threads makes sense. You know its the usage of the coach's scheme and not the player's talent in question. Just hoping the dolphins assess and recommit to the run. With the bye week, seems like a perfect time for radical change. Plus the miller owner was almost shocked/suspicious when I mentioned him in the trade and happy to get rid of Miller. Feeling good.
Selling high on David Johnson with Andre Ellington coming back and also Arians comments on D. johnson's game recently.I worry that David Johnson time will always be limited barring injury to both chris. J. And ellington.
MattFancy
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I have no idea how you did it but that sounds like a really good deal to me, especially towards the end of the year.
MattFancy
Footballguy
I mean if you told me at the start of the year, I could sell Woodhead/Yeldon for Lacy, I'd do that every time. It's not like Lacy has been bad. And with the format of our league where we only need to start 1 RB and have 3 flex spots, I feel good about being able to throw Ingram into my flex instead of my RB1 spot and still have solid WRs in my lineup every week. Without busting out the shirt, my WRs are Dez, Beckham, Hopkins, Moncrief and Adams.
That changes things a bit for sure. No flex though? If only 1 rb is starting then its worth that move even though its still risky. If you can flex a rb, I woulda kept the other two. Miller isn't doing anything this year... and with bye weeks, possible injuries, etc.
Yeldon is outperforming Lacy so far. He needs a big turnaround to make that trade worthwhile.
MattFancy
Footballguy
We have 3 Flex spots, but my WRs are pretty loaded, so I can load the flex spots with Ingram, Hopkins and Moncrief for now.
If you take away the Seattle game where Lacy got hurt and only had 3 carries, he's averaging more points per game than Yeldon. Yeldon is getting volume for sure, but he's not getting much YPC wise. It took him 22 carries to get 105 yards and 36 of those yards came on a run in OT.
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Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Hopkins? Sell high? Surely they won't be passing as much? In a package what WR's would you want over him? Beckham, Julio? Anyone else?
Anarchy99
Footballguy
This one is a tough call. Hopkins is on pace for 240 targets, which is not going to happen. But the Texans aren't great and should be forced to pass a lot (making garbage time stats pretty likely).
Overall, Hopkins probably won't see too many games with 22 targets like last game . . . but his reception percentage should be better than 40%. With Andre Johnson gone, I think Hopkins is more of a hold than a sell high.
Not sure who else you would have to throw in to get an OBJ or Julio. If I had either of those, I probably wouldn't trade either of them.
MattFancy
Footballguy
Was thinking about him. Passing will probably go down, but who else are they going to throw to? Shorts and Washington are banged up and they don't really have much else outside of he and Foster. I don't think he'll continue the top 5 WR numbers he has so far, but think he'll still be a nice low-end WR1 the rest of the way.
Off the top of my head, I'd take Julio, Brown, Beckham, Green, Thomas and probably Cobb over him right now. Would take a healthy Dez over him too. But other than that, I don't think there's anyone that's clearly better than him right now.
Quez
Footballguy
I just sold high on Chris Ivory and got Dion Lewis in ppr. I figured after that monster performance vs Miami's piss poor run defense, that people might over pay.
I really like Ivory, but Dion Lewis was ranked #6 RB in top 200 & Ivory was like #20. I'm just hoping I don't get Belichicked again.
I really like Ivory, but Dion Lewis was ranked #6 RB in top 200 & Ivory was like #20. I'm just hoping I don't get Belichicked again.
skinsrule05
Footballguy
Feel like I sold high on Hurns trading him and Lamar Miller for TY Hilton.
The other guy was worried about Luck. I am too.
The other guy was worried about Luck. I am too.
MattFancy
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
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MattFancy
Footballguy
Think he still makes for a buy low. I don't think he will put up top 10 numbers the rest of the way, however. We do know that Seattle wants to run the football. How effective they can be is a different story. But when he's healthy, you know they'll feed him the ball.SaintsInDome2006 said:
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Bump for this week.
Oak, TB, StL, and Dal on bye.
Probably last running shot at Lamar Miller, to buy or sell.
Charles owners will be looking for RB help.
Oak, TB, StL, and Dal on bye.
Probably last running shot at Lamar Miller, to buy or sell.
Charles owners will be looking for RB help.
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mbrasi
Footballguy
thunderguns
Footballguy
Attempting to buy Lamar Miller this week. Owners I know are pretty disgusted, but I think the talent is still there. Just a matter of getting carries.
Sir Psycho
Footballguy
I want to sell Evans in a dynasty league.
What's Evans value ?
What's Evans value ?
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I wouldn't. You would be selling extremely low. He should still bring you 2 rookie 2016 firsts one early and one mid, but he is worth more. He is young for a receiver and Winston is young. Plus Lovie is not a good coach for quarterbacks, he will be gone soon and you will be sorry you sold Evans. Just look at McCown. He has a great year filling in for Cutler with the Bears, sucks in Tampa under Lovie and goes to Cleveland and looks good in a small sample size. He is a firm hold, if you own or a buy if you rebuilding.
fightingillini
Footballguy
Buy Lacy low. He's probably not 100% right now, and his bye comes in Week 7. I see a big 2nd half of the year, similar to last year.
fightingillini
Footballguy
mikel0254
Footballguy
You mean you need him this week, or a trade partner won't trade for him because of a bye? If the former, just trade for someone not on bye
MattFancy
Footballguy
I certainly couldn't trust him right now. That offense looks like a mess. Caldwell just doesn't seem like the right coach for Stafford. Way too conservative and that doesn't work with Stafford's sling it around the field mentality.
FUBAR
Footballguy
I received an offer with him and Dem Thomas for Cam and Antonio Brown. While I already rejected that, it does make me wonder if Stafford is even startable (16 team league)
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I might suggest acquiring West or Davis and then selling them high. I think KCC may add a veteran street free agent to the mix (Pierre Thomas?) and the situation will end up a RBBC mess. I don't think any of these backs are on the same talent level as Charles, KCC plays the hot hand and is less successful running the ball, and they end up having to pass more to move the ball. Bottom line, the back du jour might end up putting up low end RB2 or so-so flex numbers but it may be tough as I don't see someone becoming a three down, bell cow RB out of this. IIRC, Charles has the highest ypc average in league history (for guys with 1,000 carries). One would expect whomever replaces him will be less productive.
On a per-game basis, Miller's touches, yards, YPC, and fantasy points in 2015 are right in line with 2013.
2014 might just be the outlier with this guy.
MattFancy
Footballguy
He may be a borderline starter in a 16-teamer. Seems like there's so many QBs that can produce on any given week, that Stafford just doesn't have the value he used to have, Which is crazy considering he probably has more to work with on offense this season than in any prior season in his career.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Just sold Jimmy Graham while he still has value based on his name. Calvin is another id sell who still has some name value. Saw him moved for Kelvin Benjamin and a mid 2016 1st a few weeks ago. Dynasty talking obviously.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Marshawn Lynch. Sell now before the hammy acts up again and they shut him down until the playoffs.
mbrasi
Footballguy
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Dont disagree with this thinking. If so, then the PT Cruiser might break the single game record for targets from Captain Checkdown.
Ive been thinking about trying to buy Calvin but Im worried its more than just a poor offense. I feel that I would rather gamble my 2016 first on finding a guy who might be good for 8 or 9 years than gamble it on finding out if this guy is still good for 2 or 3 years.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I almost posted something similar, but as things stand now, MIN would be the second wildcard at 2-2. At 2-3. SEA doesn't really have a mountain to climb to get into the playoffs, despite how it may seem with a 2-3 record. I don't think it will take much more than a 9-7 to make the playoffs, as the top teams will may have great records and a whole bunch of teams around .500 fighting for the last wildcard spot.
matttyl
Footballguy
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Humor me and list the teams in the NFC that are going to get at least 9 wins beyond GB, ATL, ARI, CAR, and NYG.
