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[msudaisy26]

is Stafford a buy low, an avoid at all costs or a "take him as a throw in"?

Avoid at all costs even in dynasty for me. This guy has all the talent in the world and just can't put it together except for one magical year in 2011. There are quarterbacks in the league that would kill to have his weapons for the last few years that put up better numbers than he does, and other than this year his line hasn't been average to slightly above average.

 

[jurb26]

Marshawn Lynch. Sell now before the hammy acts up again and they shut him down until the playoffs.

HAHA, Seahawks in the playoffs....

Humor me and list the teams in the NFC that are going to get at least 9 wins beyond GB, ATL, ARI, CAR, and NYG.

There is nothing definitive about this but I could see these teams getting 9 wins. Dal

St. L

Minn

Philly

Wash

Sea has just as good a shot as any of them, but it's not like nobody else in the Confernce will be competing for that spot.

Also, you're making an assumption that any of these teams will need 9 wins to beat Sea out of a spot.

 

[fightingillini]

is Stafford a buy low, an avoid at all costs or a "take him as a throw in"?

Avoid at all costs even in dynasty for me. This guy has all the talent in the world and just can't put it together except for one magical year in 2011. There are quarterbacks in the league that would kill to have his weapons for the last few years that put up better numbers than he does, and other than this year his line hasn't been average to slightly above average.

I would argue that Calvin really made Stafford a better QB than he really is. And now that Calvin is on the decline, I wouldn't touch Stafford with a ten foot pole in a dynasty league.

 

[FUBAR]

Marshawn Lynch. Sell now before the hammy acts up again and they shut him down until the playoffs.

HAHA, Seahawks in the playoffs....

Humor me and list the teams in the NFC that are going to get at least 9 wins beyond GB, ATL, ARI, CAR, and NYG.

E: NYG

W: ARI

N: GB

S: ATL/CAR

WC1: ATL/CAR

WC2: SEA

It's sad, but you're probably right that Seattle makes it. If they beat Carolina I'd even call it likely.

 

[BigBlue_RI]

is Stafford a buy low, an avoid at all costs or a "take him as a throw in"?

I'm ready to cut bait. My only hesitation is I need a QB for week 7 with Cutler being off, and Stafford is playing Da Bears this week. I'm just hoping I can get Romo back by week 11 or 12 with my team in the playoff chase. Right now my only good QB choices from the WW are Flacco or McCown, and I don't like either of them a whole lot better due to coming match-ups, situation currently, etc.

If only Alshon Jeffery and Eddie Lacy turned out to be what I had hoped on draft day....

 

[Anarchy99]

Marshawn Lynch. Sell now before the hammy acts up again and they shut him down until the playoffs.

HAHA, Seahawks in the playoffs....

Humor me and list the teams in the NFC that are going to get at least 9 wins beyond GB, ATL, ARI, CAR, and NYG.

There is nothing definitive about this but I could see these teams getting 9 wins.Dal

St. L

Minn

Philly

Wash

Sea has just as good a shot as any of them, but it's not like nobody else in the Confernce will be competing for that spot.

Also, you're making an assumption that any of these teams will need 9 wins to beat Sea out of a spot.

I think the teams you listed are iffy to get more than 8-9 wins (as things stand now). Similar discussions popped up last year when SEA started slowly (3-3) and some people were ready to write them off. SEA is 2-3 but lost to two undefeated teams on the road (and another tough road loss to the Rams). I am not ready to say they are done just yet.

Historically, they hardly ever lose at home and have been about .500 on the road since Wilson got there. They still have 6 home games left (CAR, ARI, SFO, PIT, CLE, STL). You have to think they probably win 5 of those. That gets them to 7 wins. Their remaining road games are at SFO, DAL, MIN, BAL, and ARI. I think they win at least 3 games there (maybe 4 if Romo is still out). That gets them to 10 wins. As already mentioned, I have a hard time right now seeing DAL, STL, PHI, MIN, or WAS getting to 10 wins. IMO, SEA has the most talented team out of all those teams (especially with Dez and Romo out of action for DAL). Maybe DAL gets healthy. Maybe PHI starts playing better. Maybe MIN is a better team than their record indicates. But for now, I still see SEA as making the playoffs.

 

[Brooklyn70]

Buy low on Michael Floyd especially in dynasty leagues. As he gets more playing time things will get better.

I'm even hoping he changes teams.

Would love to see him go to

Seahawks

Ravens

Panthers

 

[jurb26]

Marshawn Lynch. Sell now before the hammy acts up again and they shut him down until the playoffs.

HAHA, Seahawks in the playoffs....

Humor me and list the teams in the NFC that are going to get at least 9 wins beyond GB, ATL, ARI, CAR, and NYG.

There is nothing definitive about this but I could see these teams getting 9 wins.Dal

St. L

Minn

Philly

Wash

Sea has just as good a shot as any of them, but it's not like nobody else in the Confernce will be competing for that spot.

Also, you're making an assumption that any of these teams will need 9 wins to beat Sea out of a spot.

I think the teams you listed are iffy to get more than 8-9 wins (as things stand now). Similar discussions popped up last year when SEA started slowly (3-3) and some people were ready to write them off. SEA is 2-3 but lost to two undefeated teams on the road (and another tough road loss to the Rams). I am not ready to say they are done just yet.Historically, they hardly ever lose at home and have been about .500 on the road since Wilson got there. They still have 6 home games left (CAR, ARI, SFO, PIT, CLE, STL). You have to think they probably win 5 of those. That gets them to 7 wins. Their remaining road games are at SFO, DAL, MIN, BAL, and ARI. I think they win at least 3 games there (maybe 4 if Romo is still out). That gets them to 10 wins. As already mentioned, I have a hard time right now seeing DAL, STL, PHI, MIN, or WAS getting to 10 wins. IMO, SEA has the most talented team out of all those teams (especially with Dez and Romo out of action for DAL). Maybe DAL gets healthy. Maybe PHI starts playing better. Maybe MIN is a better team than their record indicates. But for now, I still see SEA as making the playoffs.

Moved discussion to playoff thread. Don't think we should clog this up.

 

[JohnnyU]

Buy low on Michael Floyd especially in dynasty leagues. As he gets more playing time things will get better.

I'm even hoping he changes teams.

Would love to see him go to

Seahawks

Ravens

Panthers

I'm not sure if Floyd's ship is ever going to sail. It's probably lying next to the Titanic in the North Atlantic. Sometimes I get the feeling his heart isn't into football.

 

[Short Corner]

Marshawn Lynch. Sell now before the hammy acts up again and they shut him down until the playoffs.

HAHA, Seahawks in the playoffs....

Humor me and list the teams in the NFC that are going to get at least 9 wins beyond GB, ATL, ARI, CAR, and NYG.

I can see DAL, MIN, or STL getting 9 wins and getting in over SEA on tie breakers.

 

[Anarchy99]

SEA hasn't been losing at home. That's the tipping point for them as far as I am concerned.

We know Romo has to miss a minimum of 4 more games (against NYG, SEA, PHI, and TBB). I see them only beating TBB. That would already be 6 losses. If Romo comes back in Week 11 against MIA, DALS still has to play a stretch at GB, the Jets at home, and at BUF. I think they lose two of those, which would give them 8 losses (without even considering any of their other games).

MIN has a really tough last 7 game stretch (GB x 2, ATL, SEA, ARI, NYG in there). I would guess 6 losses out of that (again, ignoring the rest of their schedule). That's already 8 losses.

STL already has 3 losses and most likely will be underdogs against SEA, CIN, and ARI. They are more up and down than a lot of other teams, so who knows how they will do against lesser opponents. They might be the most likely of the DAL / MIN /STL options to get 9 wins.

 

[Short Corner]

SEA hasn't been losing at home. That's the tipping point for them as far as I am concerned.

We know Romo has to miss a minimum of 4 more games (against NYG, SEA, PHI, and TBB). I see them only beating TBB. That would already be 6 losses. If Romo comes back in Week 11 against MIA, DALS still has to play a stretch at GB, the Jets at home, and at BUF. I think they lose two of those, which would give them 8 losses (without even considering any of their other games).

MIN has a really tough last 7 game stretch (GB x 2, ATL, SEA, ARI, NYG in there). I would guess 6 losses out of that (again, ignoring the rest of their schedule). That's already 8 losses.

STL already has 3 losses and most likely will be underdogs against SEA, CIN, and ARI. They are more up and down than a lot of other teams, so who knows how they will do against lesser opponents. They might be the most likely of the DAL / MIN /STL options to get 9 wins.

They barely beat (and arguably should have lost) the worst team in the league at home. While I think SEA is the most likely of the teams listed for the 6th spot, I wouldn't get too comfortable. If they don't tighten things up they could easily slip up and lose a game or two at home.

 

[shadyridr]

Im wondering if Julius Thomas can be a good buy low. Didnt do much his first game but Bortles looks competent. Could be a TE1 from here on out, no?

 

[Anarchy99]

SEA hasn't been losing at home. That's the tipping point for them as far as I am concerned.

We know Romo has to miss a minimum of 4 more games (against NYG, SEA, PHI, and TBB). I see them only beating TBB. That would already be 6 losses. If Romo comes back in Week 11 against MIA, DALS still has to play a stretch at GB, the Jets at home, and at BUF. I think they lose two of those, which would give them 8 losses (without even considering any of their other games).

MIN has a really tough last 7 game stretch (GB x 2, ATL, SEA, ARI, NYG in there). I would guess 6 losses out of that (again, ignoring the rest of their schedule). That's already 8 losses.

STL already has 3 losses and most likely will be underdogs against SEA, CIN, and ARI. They are more up and down than a lot of other teams, so who knows how they will do against lesser opponents. They might be the most likely of the DAL / MIN /STL options to get 9 wins.

They barely beat (and arguably should have lost) the worst team in the league at home. While I think SEA is the most likely of the teams listed for the 6th spot, I wouldn't get too comfortable. If they don't tighten things up they could easily slip up and lose a game or two at home.

Lots of teams have almost lost this year. Even if the play against DET was called correctly, SEA would still have had 1:45 left to score with two timeouts left. The Seahawks were in trouble last year and then won 9 out of 10 to close the season. We'll have to see how the season progresses . . .

 

[jurb26]

SEA hasn't been losing at home. That's the tipping point for them as far as I am concerned.

We know Romo has to miss a minimum of 4 more games (against NYG, SEA, PHI, and TBB). I see them only beating TBB. That would already be 6 losses. If Romo comes back in Week 11 against MIA, DALS still has to play a stretch at GB, the Jets at home, and at BUF. I think they lose two of those, which would give them 8 losses (without even considering any of their other games).

MIN has a really tough last 7 game stretch (GB x 2, ATL, SEA, ARI, NYG in there). I would guess 6 losses out of that (again, ignoring the rest of their schedule). That's already 8 losses.

STL already has 3 losses and most likely will be underdogs against SEA, CIN, and ARI. They are more up and down than a lot of other teams, so who knows how they will do against lesser opponents. They might be the most likely of the DAL / MIN /STL options to get 9 wins.

They barely beat (and arguably should have lost) the worst team in the league at home. While I think SEA is the most likely of the teams listed for the 6th spot, I wouldn't get too comfortable. If they don't tighten things up they could easily slip up and lose a game or two at home.

Lots of teams have almost lost this year. Even if the play against DET was called correctly, SEA would still have had 1:45 left to score with two timeouts left.

This is pure speculation. We have no idea what might have happened if that play was called correctly. All we really know is Det had the ball at the 1 with a first down. How long it took them to score, if they score at all, is totally undetermined.

 

[Anarchy99]

SEA hasn't been losing at home. That's the tipping point for them as far as I am concerned.

We know Romo has to miss a minimum of 4 more games (against NYG, SEA, PHI, and TBB). I see them only beating TBB. That would already be 6 losses. If Romo comes back in Week 11 against MIA, DALS still has to play a stretch at GB, the Jets at home, and at BUF. I think they lose two of those, which would give them 8 losses (without even considering any of their other games).

MIN has a really tough last 7 game stretch (GB x 2, ATL, SEA, ARI, NYG in there). I would guess 6 losses out of that (again, ignoring the rest of their schedule). That's already 8 losses.

STL already has 3 losses and most likely will be underdogs against SEA, CIN, and ARI. They are more up and down than a lot of other teams, so who knows how they will do against lesser opponents. They might be the most likely of the DAL / MIN /STL options to get 9 wins.

They barely beat (and arguably should have lost) the worst team in the league at home. While I think SEA is the most likely of the teams listed for the 6th spot, I wouldn't get too comfortable. If they don't tighten things up they could easily slip up and lose a game or two at home.

Lots of teams have almost lost this year. Even if the play against DET was called correctly, SEA would still have had 1:45 left to score with two timeouts left.

This is pure speculation. We have no idea what might have happened if that play was called correctly. All we really know is Det had the ball at the 1 with a first down. How long it took them to score, if they score at all, is totally undetermined.

I totally agree as there is no counter argument. We don't know what we don't know. All we would have to work with would be 1st and 10 DET inside the one yard with 1:45 remaining. We don't know for certain that DET would have even scored at all from the one yard line (although one would think they could have gotten into the end zone after running time off the clock). I would not have guessed that Megatron would fumble a foot from the goal line either or SEA would have thrown an INT to end the SB. Crazy things happen in football.

 

[jurb26]

SEA hasn't been losing at home. That's the tipping point for them as far as I am concerned.

We know Romo has to miss a minimum of 4 more games (against NYG, SEA, PHI, and TBB). I see them only beating TBB. That would already be 6 losses. If Romo comes back in Week 11 against MIA, DALS still has to play a stretch at GB, the Jets at home, and at BUF. I think they lose two of those, which would give them 8 losses (without even considering any of their other games).

MIN has a really tough last 7 game stretch (GB x 2, ATL, SEA, ARI, NYG in there). I would guess 6 losses out of that (again, ignoring the rest of their schedule). That's already 8 losses.

STL already has 3 losses and most likely will be underdogs against SEA, CIN, and ARI. They are more up and down than a lot of other teams, so who knows how they will do against lesser opponents. They might be the most likely of the DAL / MIN /STL options to get 9 wins.

They barely beat (and arguably should have lost) the worst team in the league at home. While I think SEA is the most likely of the teams listed for the 6th spot, I wouldn't get too comfortable. If they don't tighten things up they could easily slip up and lose a game or two at home.

Lots of teams have almost lost this year. Even if the play against DET was called correctly, SEA would still have had 1:45 left to score with two timeouts left.

This is pure speculation. We have no idea what might have happened if that play was called correctly. All we really know is Det had the ball at the 1 with a first down. How long it took them to score, if they score at all, is totally undetermined.

I totally agree as there is no counter argument. We don't know what we don't know. All we would have to work with would be 1st and 10 DET inside the one yard with 1:45 remaining. We don't know for certain that DET would have even scored at all from the one yard line (although one would think they could have gotten into the end zone after running time off the clock). I would not have guessed that Megatron would fumble a foot from the goal line either or SEA would have thrown an INT to end the SB. Crazy things happen in football.

Given the way Det's season has gone. Stanford fumbles the snap on the 1st down play, Sea recovers and the lose anyway.

 

[Tom Skerritt]

12-team Redraft league. I have depth at RB. (Gurley, Lewis, Blount, Jennings, JStew) Just traded Gurley and Graham for Latavius Murray and Gronk.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Any new thoughts this week?

Sell low: - if you haven't done it I can't imagine what it would take to deal Joe Randle at this point. Already just a 3 quarter back he looks like he is about to go into a 60/40 or 50/50 share with Michael. I mean what would you not accept at this point? I don't agree with the criticisms of him, but man this looks bleak, he could lose all value by end of wek 7 or 8.

CJ Anderson - Sell low or buy low? Or drop?

Beckham and Cobb - where are these guys going? Beckham has a hamstring injury of undetermined nature going into a MNF game and Cobb seems to be having a couple poor weeks with reports of still being limited in practice.

 

[timbrah_ho]

What about Woodhead in PPR? Gordon got more targets on MNF...might be time to sell high

 

[MattFancy]

What about Woodhead in PPR? Gordon got more targets on MNF...might be time to sell high

Moved on from Woodhead last week. With Gates back and them wanting to get Gordon more involved, I don't see how Woodhead keeps his current pace.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I want to sell Evans in a dynasty league.

What's Evans value ?

Just talking this year, redraft, Evans was targeted twice near the goal line last game. He's on bye.

He had a string second half and I'm guessing people want to unload him. And I while I do hate Winston as a QB and the TB offense this talent seems too terrific to remain stuck in the mud. Winston just has to throw it up to him.

 

[Parmcat]

I just took a flyer on Calvin. It is a TD only league, and I hope he can put up some angry numbers a few times.

It cost me a 3rd and Ertz.

I hope he has something left

 

[Robotron]

Eli, Ivory > Eldemen in one league

Matt Ryan, moncreif> lynch in another.

Feeling good about both. Especially the second. I may be charged with trade rape. Both teams needed QB's. First year playing. In 4x10 team nuff public leagues. First post

 

[Saboo]

BUY

Calvin Johnson

Matthew Stafford

They have had a vicious schedule to this point. Going forward the Lions have a much easier schedule.

 

[Ever Present Lurker]

Sell High - I just traded away James Jones, WR, Green Bay in a PPR keeper league. So much of Jones has been on TDs and big plays that I feel like he has to come back to earth somewhat. Add in the realistic possibility that Lacy becomes more involved as the weather gets colder and I felt like now was a good time to move Jones.

Buy Low - I think Lamar Miller has a good chance to be a solid buy low. Miami has ignored the running game and Miller's numbers have suffered because of it. With the coaching change and a bye-week to adjust their mindsets, there's a distinct possibility that Lamar Miller picks up the pace.

Not coincidentally, I traded away James Jones for Lamar Miller.

 

[shadyridr]

I'm trying to buy low on miller too. Unlike the other bust rbs his only negative has been usage and i think that will change. Just offered duke and hillman for him. Hope that's enough.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

BUY

Calvin Johnson

Matthew Stafford

They have had a vicious schedule to this point. Going forward the Lions have a much easier schedule.

If they keep imploding they will go the way of the Phins, buy then if they make changes after the bye. (IMO)

 

[Van Dyman]

I'm trying to buy low on miller too. Unlike the other bust rbs his only negative has been usage and i think that will change. Just offered duke and hillman for him. Hope that's enough.

I'm contemplating offering Duke+something for Miller, too. Let us know if he bites.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Any new thoughts on RBs as the trading deadline looms in many leagues?

 

[msudaisy26]

Any new thoughts on RBs as the trading deadline looms in many leagues?

Matt Jones, Antonio Andrews, and Blount.

 

[foxco]

Any new thoughts on RBs as the trading deadline looms in many leagues?

Matt Jones, Antonio Andrews, and Blount.

I kind of like Starks as well, and you may be able to get him cheap if the owner thinks Lacy is going to win the job back.

 

[Sabertooth]

I really like James Jones as a buy low right now. I think the Packers become unstuck in a big way this weekend. 20 PPR points for Jones.

 

[Arodin]

I really like James Jones as a buy low right now. I think the Packers become unstuck in a big way this weekend. 20 PPR points for Jones.

I'd like to agree, but afraid at least 12 of those 20 ppr points end up on Adams' stat sheet rather than Jones'.

 

[Sabertooth]

Plenty of room for both.

 

[Evil G]

Trade Deadline moves:

Sell High: Freeman (Atlanta's offense looks strained, I smell a regression coming out of the bye and possible long term share with Coleman...then again, most of the guys in the League where I have him detect the same thing)

Buy Low: Bortles (an improving offense, terrific WRs, schedule down the stretch/playoffs is terrific. I see him as being a really good dynasty buy, especially in 2QB and SuperFlex leagues)