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Selling Andre Johnson (1 Viewer)

Breesisdaman

Breesisdaman

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Now with Andre returning and Matt Leinart chunking the rock are you getting anyone to take Andre off your hands? If so who have you gotten in return? I am trying for a RB like Turner, Sproles and maybe I should set my sights lower because Im not getting any bites. Wondering what you guys have managed.

 
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Thanks for suggesting AJ's current value. I think you are fireselling him personally. I am trying to trade for him and offering up D. Bowe and C. Palmer for him (he also lost Schaub). Yes, I'm fireselling Bowe as well, and Palmer I picked up off waivers last week for free. I doubt he bites, but I think I'm offering a deal of now for later. :shrug:

 
You won't get much at the moment. You should wait till he has a good game or else you are looking at something like Benson or Greene type of deal.

 
'LargeMouthBass said:
You won't get much at the moment. You should wait till he has a good game or else you are looking at something like Benson or Greene type of deal.
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Trade deadline for my league is tonight at midnight. Good advise for other owners here though. Wished I had the Luxury of waiting.
 
'Breesisdaman said:
'LargeMouthBass said:
You won't get much at the moment. You should wait till he has a good game or else you are looking at something like Benson or Greene type of deal.
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Trade deadline for my league is tonight at midnight. Good advise for other owners here though. Wished I had the Luxury of waiting.
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I tried last week in a dynasty offering up Boldin. early 2nd(more value in our league as we draft 1st round before NFL draft and 2nd-5th round in august), Bilal Powell and Cameron Jordan. His WR crew was decimated. The guy wanted Colston, Boldin, 1st and SEan Weatherspoon. We did not get a deal done. He needed the victory and went 0-2 and is probably out of it now. I could afford to trade Boldin as he was on my bench.
 
'Breesisdaman said:
Now with Andre returning and Matt Leinart chunking the rock are you getting anyone to take Andre off your hands? If so who have you gotten in return? I am trying for a RB like Turner, Sproles and maybe I should set my sights lower because Im not getting any bites. Wondering what you guys have managed.
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Tough to say. I don't think many people will be prepare to give up very much until a) he proves his hamstring is healthy and b) that he can be productive with Leinart at QB.I know in leagues where I'm a potential buyer I'm taking a definite "wait and see" approach. This late in the season, teams who are in the playoff hunt or contenting for a championship, may not be that likely to give up a whole lot and potentially jeopardize their season for a guy who may not pan out. That said, not everyone is as risk-averse as I am.
 
I'm holding him in my keeper league, but that is a different breed of cat. Even in a redraft though I expect teams to stack the line and stop the run since no one fears Leinhart. It could be that AJ surprises since he is the best friend Matty is going to have out there when they can't run the ball.

 
I'm cautiously optimistic on AJ and am looking to buy. If opposing teams stack the line and dare Leinart to throw, AJ might have success.

 
I've been offering Marshall for AJ for the past 5 weeks and have been declined. Today he's interested :hophead: ... I may try to upgrade my D while I'm at it. Big risk / reward with AJ

 
lol, you sit on him all season waiting and waiting and he is finally about ready to go and you sell him. I would keep him unless you can get full value like Jennings or Wallace. I bought him 3 week ago for Little/Ingram and am very happy and he hasnt even played yet

 
I got him a few weeks ago for Laurent robinson and tolbert. Trying to move him now for Arian Foster (AJ + gore for foster and torrey smith)

 
Keeper league. Was offered a 1st, 3rd and 4th. I have Wallace, D Moore and Boldin and considering it. I have until the start of week 12 to make the call.

 
The AJ owner in my league is totally screwed. He's held on to him this long, and refused to take anything except (healthy) elite players in a trade. Now he's out of the playoff hunt. Poor roster management.

 
I traded him away with A. Benn in dynasty for Bowe and Jamall Charles, about a week after the Hammy. Rebuilding mode.

 
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'CompetitiveEdgeFootball said:
The AJ owner in my league is totally screwed. He's held on to him this long, and refused to take anything except (healthy) elite players in a trade. Now he's out of the playoff hunt. Poor roster management.
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Ours too. Dude has had BJGE and Mathews at RB, and Andre, Steve Johnson, Jenkins and James Jones at WR with Gresham at TE. I offered him combos of Hernandez, Marshall, Reggie Bush, James Starks and a few others and he didn't accept
 
'Tony Reali said:
'CompetitiveEdgeFootball said:
The AJ owner in my league is totally screwed. He's held on to him this long, and refused to take anything except (healthy) elite players in a trade. Now he's out of the playoff hunt. Poor roster management.
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Ours too. Dude has had BJGE and Mathews at RB, and Andre, Steve Johnson, Jenkins and James Jones at WR with Gresham at TE. I offered him combos of Hernandez, Marshall, Reggie Bush, James Starks and a few others and he didn't accept
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I love dead money.
 
No word of a lie, two weeks ago I offered DeMarco Murray and Brandon Marshall. He denied, and told me he wanted Fitzgerald. So I laughed, and started Roy Helu against him and put high week on him :thumbup:

 
'djjosee said:
I've been offering Marshall for AJ for the past 5 weeks and have been declined. Today he's interested :hophead: ... I may try to upgrade my D while I'm at it. Big risk / reward with AJ
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I have Marshall and was offered AJ. Im on the fence since 1. AJ is coming back from surgery 2. Leinhart. Marshall has started to look better but 1.He's absent in the endzone and 2. Matt Moore. I'm locked into playoffs so I can afford to let AJ sit till week 13. Any advice from the pool?
 
I think if you've waited this long... you just roll with him. Unless you can get something WITH Marshall here... If he has a bench stash like Kendall Hunter, high upside RBs, then I might consider it. I just feel like if you're already locked into the playoffs there's no sense in trading AJ for $.75 on the dollar. I wouldn't worry too much about Leinart. AJ is the kind of WR that will make a below average QB look competent.

 
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'CompetitiveEdgeFootball said:
The AJ owner in my league is totally screwed. He's held on to him this long, and refused to take anything except (healthy) elite players in a trade. Now he's out of the playoff hunt. Poor roster management.
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I don't know who was offered to him obviously but my first reaction is that it wasn't poor roster management. Johnson when health is a fantasy stud. We all know that. He's a Top 3 WR, arguably WR1. Getting anything less than another elite player in return is selling low, especially since there was reason to believe Johnson would still be able to play a meaningful amount of the season (i.e. returning after this week's bye). Unless someone knew Schaub was going to get hurt and likely be lost for the season I don't think Johnson owners who didn't Sell Low made a mistake. Stuff happens. No way to see this coming, especially considering Schaub has been quite durable the past couple of seasons.
 
Yeah but if he's your first round draft pick, that's supposed to be the highest producing player on your roster. How my league is- there's 4-5 teams vying for the 2nd and 3rd money spots. I have first place locked at 9-1. But instead of having all that production locked on your bench (and there were reports that he would be out until his bye week since very early in the year) it's a wise move to get some kind of value for your first round pick. Especially in a league this close.

Selling low is one thing, but doing the homework here and listening to people in the know, AJ has never been ready to return this season, with the exception of the week he suffered his setback. Trading him for Jennings in week 2 is one thing, but if by week 6, he's still not making much progress and you're in a tight playoff race, it's absolutely the right move to try and get a a couple decent players with good upside for him.

It's part of being a savvy FF player to know when to move your blue chip players- when to give up and sell.

 
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'CompetitiveEdgeFootball said:
Yeah but if he's your first round draft pick, that's supposed to be the highest producing player on your roster. How my league is- there's 4-5 teams vying for the 2nd and 3rd money spots. I have first place locked at 9-1. But instead of having all that production locked on your bench (and there were reports that he would be out until his bye week since very early in the year) it's a wise move to get some kind of value for your first round pick. Especially in a league this close.Selling low is one thing, but doing the homework here and listening to people in the know, AJ has never been ready to return this season, with the exception of the week he suffered his setback. Trading him for Jennings in week 2 is one thing, but if by week 6, he's still not making much progress and you're in a tight playoff race, it's absolutely the right move to try and get a a couple decent players with good upside for him.
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It depends on what's being offered, though. I'm not Selling Low when the worst-case scenario is he returns for Week 12 and gives me five weeks of potentially elite production as he typically does when healthy. Assuming people were trying to get Johnson on the cheap, I think his owner did the right thing holding onto him considering there hasn't been the slightest indication before Monday that Schaub's health was going to be at stake. But this is where bad luck can bite you in the behind. Assuming Schaub hadn't gotten hurt, I think Johnson was looking great the rest of the way. Top 10 QB, best running attack in the game to provide offensive balance and a favorable schedule. Schaub and Johnson owners were looking real good in my opinion coming out of this week's bye until Schaub got hurt.
 
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'packersfan said:
'CompetitiveEdgeFootball said:
Yeah but if he's your first round draft pick, that's supposed to be the highest producing player on your roster. How my league is- there's 4-5 teams vying for the 2nd and 3rd money spots. I have first place locked at 9-1. But instead of having all that production locked on your bench (and there were reports that he would be out until his bye week since very early in the year) it's a wise move to get some kind of value for your first round pick. Especially in a league this close.Selling low is one thing, but doing the homework here and listening to people in the know, AJ has never been ready to return this season, with the exception of the week he suffered his setback. Trading him for Jennings in week 2 is one thing, but if by week 6, he's still not making much progress and you're in a tight playoff race, it's absolutely the right move to try and get a a couple decent players with good upside for him.
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It depends on what's being offered, though. I'm not Selling Low when the worst-case scenario is he returns for Week 12 and gives me five weeks of potentially elite production as he typically does when healthy. Assuming people were trying to get Johnson on the cheap, I think his owner did the right thing holding onto him considering there hasn't been the slightest indication before Monday that Schaub's health was going to be at stake. But this is where bad luck can bite you in the behind. Assuming Schaub hadn't gotten hurt, I think Johnson was looking great the rest of the way. Top 10 QB, best running attack in the game to provide offensive balance and a favorable schedule. Schaub and Johnson owners were looking real good in my opinion coming out of this week's bye until Schaub got hurt.
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But if "the rest of the way" is when you're already out of playoff contention, then it's the wrong move to hold onto him. I offered DeMarco Murray and Brandon Marshall 2 weeks ago, and I was denied. He told me he wanted Larry Fitzgerald. (I own fitz, calvin and marshall in a 10 team ppr.) He's now just about out of the money. It's a situational thing. There is no black and white answer to questions like this, but I'm illustrating an example of when he should have moved his 1st round pick.
 
Here is what I tried in thinking I will sell AJ.

My league is coming down to the wire with Friday the cutoff for trades. The league has also does not have the best track history of trades among the 10 of us. I was offered Greg Jennings for Ryan Mathews and Marques Colston. I was not really interested in letting either Mathews or Colston go to be honest and I have done really well this season sitting at 9-1.

I countered the offer with Andre Johnson and Willis McGahee for Jennings and Best. I am not really sure what the status of Best is but I thought I would toss it out there for this owner. I am sick of AJ and willing to part ways with him. Just curious on the thoughts of this one. I know Best has been really good but he is not playing currently. I figured he offered me Jennings and I countered with AJ. I know that McGahee is not the best but still capable too.

We will see what they think.

 
'CompetitiveEdgeFootball said:
'packersfan said:
'CompetitiveEdgeFootball said:
Yeah but if he's your first round draft pick, that's supposed to be the highest producing player on your roster. How my league is- there's 4-5 teams vying for the 2nd and 3rd money spots. I have first place locked at 9-1. But instead of having all that production locked on your bench (and there were reports that he would be out until his bye week since very early in the year) it's a wise move to get some kind of value for your first round pick. Especially in a league this close.Selling low is one thing, but doing the homework here and listening to people in the know, AJ has never been ready to return this season, with the exception of the week he suffered his setback. Trading him for Jennings in week 2 is one thing, but if by week 6, he's still not making much progress and you're in a tight playoff race, it's absolutely the right move to try and get a a couple decent players with good upside for him.
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It depends on what's being offered, though. I'm not Selling Low when the worst-case scenario is he returns for Week 12 and gives me five weeks of potentially elite production as he typically does when healthy. Assuming people were trying to get Johnson on the cheap, I think his owner did the right thing holding onto him considering there hasn't been the slightest indication before Monday that Schaub's health was going to be at stake. But this is where bad luck can bite you in the behind. Assuming Schaub hadn't gotten hurt, I think Johnson was looking great the rest of the way. Top 10 QB, best running attack in the game to provide offensive balance and a favorable schedule. Schaub and Johnson owners were looking real good in my opinion coming out of this week's bye until Schaub got hurt.
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But if "the rest of the way" is when you're already out of playoff contention, then it's the wrong move to hold onto him. I offered DeMarco Murray and Brandon Marshall 2 weeks ago, and I was denied. He told me he wanted Larry Fitzgerald. (I own fitz, calvin and marshall in a 10 team ppr.) He's now just about out of the money. It's a situational thing. There is no black and white answer to questions like this, but I'm illustrating an example of when he should have moved his 1st round pick.
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I'm not completely disagreeing and the Murray/Marshall offer was definitely one I would've considered if I was a Johnson owner, especially if I needed RB help. That said, if it was me I would've accepted his counter and traded Fitz for Johnson. And now I would be hating myself. :)
 
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'packersfan said:
'CompetitiveEdgeFootball said:
'packersfan said:
'CompetitiveEdgeFootball said:
Yeah but if he's your first round draft pick, that's supposed to be the highest producing player on your roster. How my league is- there's 4-5 teams vying for the 2nd and 3rd money spots. I have first place locked at 9-1. But instead of having all that production locked on your bench (and there were reports that he would be out until his bye week since very early in the year) it's a wise move to get some kind of value for your first round pick. Especially in a league this close.Selling low is one thing, but doing the homework here and listening to people in the know, AJ has never been ready to return this season, with the exception of the week he suffered his setback. Trading him for Jennings in week 2 is one thing, but if by week 6, he's still not making much progress and you're in a tight playoff race, it's absolutely the right move to try and get a a couple decent players with good upside for him.
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It depends on what's being offered, though. I'm not Selling Low when the worst-case scenario is he returns for Week 12 and gives me five weeks of potentially elite production as he typically does when healthy. Assuming people were trying to get Johnson on the cheap, I think his owner did the right thing holding onto him considering there hasn't been the slightest indication before Monday that Schaub's health was going to be at stake. But this is where bad luck can bite you in the behind. Assuming Schaub hadn't gotten hurt, I think Johnson was looking great the rest of the way. Top 10 QB, best running attack in the game to provide offensive balance and a favorable schedule. Schaub and Johnson owners were looking real good in my opinion coming out of this week's bye until Schaub got hurt.
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But if "the rest of the way" is when you're already out of playoff contention, then it's the wrong move to hold onto him. I offered DeMarco Murray and Brandon Marshall 2 weeks ago, and I was denied. He told me he wanted Larry Fitzgerald. (I own fitz, calvin and marshall in a 10 team ppr.) He's now just about out of the money. It's a situational thing. There is no black and white answer to questions like this, but I'm illustrating an example of when he should have moved his 1st round pick.
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I'm not completely disagreeing and the Murray/Marshall offer was definitely one I would've considered if I was a Johnson owner, especially if I needed RB help. That said, if it was me I would've accepted his counter and traded Fitz for Johnson. And now I would be hating myself. :)
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yes, I held on Fitz. :thumbup:
 
'wasted space 25 said:
Dude just offered his ANdre for my CJ2k. What to do here???? I need a WR and dont need CJ but can use him as a flex. THoughts?
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I'd have to see your rosters, but you'll be waiting 2 weeks on AJ and when he's ready to roll it's probably going to be leinart throwing the ball. Don't expect full on 100% AJ production. He'll still be a WR1. PM me with your rosters and I'll tell you if I think it's a good move to trade him.
 
ive been trying to get AJ for 3 weeks... finally after the AJ owner gets to 3-7, he sends me an offer for Mendenhall. i accepted, got RB depth. also, AJ owner had no RBs besides Tolbert due to injuries. another team offered him an injured DMC last week, fwiw.

 
'boonesfarm4me said:
ive been trying to get AJ for 3 weeks... finally after the AJ owner gets to 3-7, he sends me an offer for Mendenhall. i accepted, got RB depth. also, AJ owner had no RBs besides Tolbert due to injuries. another team offered him an injured DMC last week, fwiw.
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A lot of team owners tend to go down with the ship when it comes to their 1st round picks. It's a skill you can't teach, when to sell on your blue chip players. Because under circumstances like AJ and CJ2K this year, they become an anchor that weighs your team down, until you're out of the money.
 
I traded for AJ 2 weeks ago in a 1 player keeper, giving up Pierre Thomas, Manningham and a 2012 6th. The AJ owner had 1 win at the time and it was his last year to keep him.

 
I was offered Julio Jones and Mario Manningham for him today. Tempting, but I've waited on AJ this long it's tough to trade him the week before he gets back...

 
Dynasty, standard scoring.

One week ago, traded

Mendy

Redman

BJGE

Andre Johnson

for

Hillis

Hardesty

Michael Bush

Hakeem Nicks

 
Redraft 0.5 PPR start 3 WR this week I traded Julio, Decker and Rivers for AJ.

I have Fitzgerald, Harvin and DMoore to start for the next few weeks until I see if AJ is healthy, so to me it was worth the risk of trading away bench depth at this point in the season. To the AJ owner, he's desperate and angry and also had Schaub, so I guess it worked for him too. Ten year league full of mistrust amongst owners, so trading is very hard to do.

 
In a 1 QB keeper league, I just lost Matt Schaub so I dealt Andre (R2 keeper value) for QB Josh Freeman (R7 keeper value) straight up. Freeman's been solid yardage wise and I expect him to settle down TD/INT wise for the rest of the season while improving next year.

I love AJ when he's healthy but I have a team full of talent yet injury prone guys (Schaub, Johnson, Colston, and Gates) so I wasn't looking to keep Johnson at his round value given the fact this is the 2nd year he's missed games due to injury.

 
In a keep 2 league I just traded AJ and a 2nd rounder next year for Welker. I will be able to get the second rounder back in the off season though.

 
Just made a deal in our 16 team PPR.

I gave Jackie Battle + Denarius Moore in exchange for Andre Johnson.

Both teams are on the verge of the playoffs. Since it's a very deep league with semi-small benches, I was starting both Moore and Battle this week, meaning I'll have to hit the waivers for a replacement RB. The best available replacement level RBs are Taiwan Jones, Keiland Williams, and Thomas Jones.

Basically, I took a huge hit this week and will probably lose in order to make the trade. I still like it a lot.

 
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