Senior Bowl -10 Players That Impressed Me The Most (1 Viewer)

[Bloom]

Just finished watching the game for a 2nd time - These are in no particular order, and by no means are these the ONLY guys that impressed me, just 10 that stood out the most in my notes:Max Jean-Gilles, OG, Georgia - Showed great mean streak, worked well in space for such a big guy. Shut down everything on his side.Davin Joseph, OG, Oklahoma - like MJG, just shut down everything on his side. Once he locked on to his guy, that defender was out of the play. period. Man, what a year for OGs - Setterstrom from Minnesota and Spencer from Pitt were also impressive, and Sims from Ohio State really stood out all week at the shrine game.Tamba Hali, DE, PSU - this guy's motor just does not stop. Marcedes Lewis did bottle him up a few times one on one - so to Lewis for being a more complete TE than I gave him credit for coming in.Lawrence Vickers, FB, Colorado - I got tired of noting "great lead block by Vickers". His runs were also very solid for a FB.DQwell Jackson, LB, Maryland - showed good ability to get through traffic and by far was the best hitter of the LBs. Also forced an INT with delayed pressure - showed great closing speed on the QB.Joel Klopfenstein, TE, Colorado - showed terrific ability to get the ball over and fight through a defender in the air on his TD. very good blocking all game on DEs. Will be a great value pick in this deep class of TEs.Manny Lawson, DE/OLB, NC State - I know Im not the first to say it, but here's your Demarcus Ware of 2006. Showed great ability to disrupt plays with his closing speed and long arms/amazing leaping ability. Another one of the new breed of 3-4 OLBs. DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis - great cuts, great open field speed, pushed the pile, had to be ridden down, no one got good hits on him. A real franchise RB in the making.Freddie Roach, LB, Alabama - looked much better than Ryans, imo. he fought off Olineman to make tackles, including one while he was being blocked. Showed the all important ability for an ILB to get through traffic to make plays. Showed very good fundamentals on his tackling.Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami - Moss=Speed He's the real deal. Clearly at a different level, and gets to his 2nd gear in one or two steps. speed kills, and moss's was lethal on two big plays. Could easily be the #2 WR off the board in April after Holmes.

 

[wannabee]

Bloom, what do you think DeAngelo's Senior Bowl week/game did for his draft value? I see this helping, potentially, him jump White for the second back off the board. But how high could he go?

 

[Bloom]

Bloom, what do you think DeAngelo's Senior Bowl week/game did for his draft value? I see this helping, potentially, him jump White for the second back off the board. But how high could he go?

I think it cemented him in the top 10. The Jets and Packers have to be taking a longer look at him now, and I am buying the parallels between the Gruden/Caddy love and Nolan/DeAngelo love in Mobile, so SF is a good possibility too. Arizona would be nuts to pass on him at 10 if he's still there. We could see 3 Rbs in the top 10 for the 2nd consecutive year if one of these teams also falls in love with White, but I cant justify taking White over Williams, even in a power running attack.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Just finished watching the game for a 2nd time - These are in no particular order, and by no means are these the ONLY guys that impressed me, just 10 that stood out the most in my notes:

Max Jean-Gilles, OG, Georgia - Showed great mean streak, worked well in space for such a big guy. Shut down everything on his side.

Davin Joseph, OG, Oklahoma - like MJG, just shut down everything on his side. Once he locked on to his guy, that defender was out of the play. period. Man, what a year for OGs - Setterstrom from Minnesota and Spencer from Pitt were also impressive, and Sims from Ohio State really stood out all week at the shrine game.

Tamba Hali, DE, PSU - this guy's motor just does not stop. Marcedes Lewis did bottle him up a few times one on one - so to Lewis for being a more complete TE than I gave him credit for coming in.

Lawrence Vickers, FB, Colorado - I got tired of noting "great lead block by Vickers". His runs were also very solid for a FB.

DQwell Jackson, LB, Maryland - showed good ability to get through traffic and by far was the best hitter of the LBs. Also forced an INT with delayed pressure - showed great closing speed on the QB.

Joel Klopfenstein, TE, Colorado - showed terrific ability to get the ball over and fight through a defender in the air on his TD. very good blocking all game on DEs. Will be a great value pick in this deep class of TEs.

Manny Lawson, DE/OLB, NC State - I know Im not the first to say it, but here's your Demarcus Ware of 2006. Showed great ability to disrupt plays with his closing speed and long arms/amazing leaping ability. Another one of the new breed of 3-4 OLBs.

DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis - great cuts, great open field speed, pushed the pile, had to be ridden down, no one got good hits on him. A real franchise RB in the making.

Freddie Roach, LB, Alabama - looked much better than Ryans, imo. he fought off Olineman to make tackles, including one while he was being blocked. Showed the all important ability for an ILB to get through traffic to make plays. Showed very good fundamentals on his tackling.

Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami - Moss=Speed He's the real deal. Clearly at a different level, and gets to his 2nd gear in one or two steps. speed kills, and moss's was lethal on two big plays. Could easily be the #2 WR off the board in April after Holmes.

I agree with all of this, but I had to chuckle at the Lewis comment, because on further review, I think Byrd is really something-- I like him better now. So, I agree with you and Wood today, where I disagreed yesterda, but now you see something in Lewis I have appreciated more than most.

Anyway, nice for Marcedes to dispell the blocking issue, and nice for Byrd to look so complete removed from all that talent at USC.

Others who impressed me.

Kamerion Wimbley is very explosive and hard to handle.

D'Brick with the exception of getting burned once and pushed around a little really does have the feet, balance and strength of a legit franchise LT.

Jerome Harrison showed why he piles up so many yards. Pretty strong rumor says the Falcons love him.

Greenway running down Sinorice was very impressive. He's a baller.

O'Callaghan had that one drive where he was dominant. He strutted off the field.

Lutui had some dominating blocks

Roman Harper was everywhere.

Cedrick Griffin is a terrific Ballhawk.

I like Kyle Williams motor too. Bunkley and Watson get more hype, but I can see Williams grinding it out in the trenches successfully for years to come. It made me wonder how good Wroten is considering LSU coaches voted Wroten the defensive MVP.

Disappointments

Tye Hill

DeMeco Ryans

Derek Hagan

 

[ltaylor]

I am glad to see that many are starting to see Deangelo for what he is: a STUD.

 

[Bri]

I don't follow college football and so I really enjoy reading the threads you start Bloom. Thanks

 

[Bloom]

Just finished watching the game for a 2nd time - These are in no particular order, and by no means are these the ONLY guys that impressed me, just 10 that stood out the most in my notes:

Max Jean-Gilles, OG, Georgia - Showed great mean streak, worked well in space for such a big guy. Shut down everything on his side.

Davin Joseph, OG, Oklahoma - like MJG, just shut down everything on his side. Once he locked on to his guy, that defender was out of the play. period. Man, what a year for OGs - Setterstrom from Minnesota and Spencer from Pitt were also impressive, and Sims from Ohio State really stood out all week at the shrine game.

Tamba Hali, DE, PSU - this guy's motor just does not stop. Marcedes Lewis did bottle him up a few times one on one - so to Lewis for being a more complete TE than I gave him credit for coming in.

Lawrence Vickers, FB, Colorado - I got tired of noting "great lead block by Vickers". His runs were also very solid for a FB.

DQwell Jackson, LB, Maryland - showed good ability to get through traffic and by far was the best hitter of the LBs. Also forced an INT with delayed pressure - showed great closing speed on the QB.

Joel Klopfenstein, TE, Colorado - showed terrific ability to get the ball over and fight through a defender in the air on his TD. very good blocking all game on DEs. Will be a great value pick in this deep class of TEs.

Manny Lawson, DE/OLB, NC State - I know Im not the first to say it, but here's your Demarcus Ware of 2006. Showed great ability to disrupt plays with his closing speed and long arms/amazing leaping ability. Another one of the new breed of 3-4 OLBs.

DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis - great cuts, great open field speed, pushed the pile, had to be ridden down, no one got good hits on him. A real franchise RB in the making.

Freddie Roach, LB, Alabama - looked much better than Ryans, imo. he fought off Olineman to make tackles, including one while he was being blocked. Showed the all important ability for an ILB to get through traffic to make plays. Showed very good fundamentals on his tackling.

Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami - Moss=Speed He's the real deal. Clearly at a different level, and gets to his 2nd gear in one or two steps. speed kills, and moss's was lethal on two big plays. Could easily be the #2 WR off the board in April after Holmes.

I agree with all of this, but I had to chuckle at the Lewis comment, because on further review, I think Byrd is really something-- I like him better now. So, I agree with you and Wood today, where I disagreed yesterda, but now you see something in Lewis I have appreciated more than most.

Anyway, nice for Marcedes to dispell the blocking issue, and nice for Byrd to look so complete removed from all that talent at USC.

Others who impressed me.

Kamerion Wimbley is very explosive and hard to handle.

D'Brick with the exception of getting burned once and pushed around a little really does have the feet, balance and strength of a legit franchise LT.

Jerome Harrison showed why he piles up so many yards. Pretty strong rumor says the Falcons love him.

Greenway running down Sinorice was very impressive. He's a baller.

O'Callaghan had that one drive where he was dominant. He strutted off the field.

Lutui had some dominating blocks

Roman Harper was everywhere.

Cedrick Griffin is a terrific Ballhawk.

I like Kyle Williams motor too. Bunkley and Watson get more hype, but I can see Williams grinding it out in the trenches successfully for years to come. It made me wonder how good Wroten is considering LSU coaches voted Wroten the defensive MVP.

Disappointments

Tye Hill

DeMeco Ryans

Derek Hagan

Wimbley had some decent pressure, but left his feet when he had no reason to on one play. He was solid, but didnt have near the impact Lawson did.D'Brick was awesome on most plays, but he still clearly has trouble when a rusher gets across his face. His tendency to want to push everyone upfield and outside will be exploited if he can't fix it, but I expect good coaching to close that hole in his game. He was impressive for sure.

Harrison looked tremendous on that last drive [Maguire] Look at them feet! [/Maguire] he set up his blocks, showed good burst, and more power than I expected.

Greenway was about 5-10 yards ahead of Moss when he started running. I wasnt impressed.

O'Callaghan was impressive too (really so many Olineman stood out, it was hard to pick only a few to list). I saw him pancaking a guy more than once. He also made great seal blocks on the end of the line, and did a very good job getting quicker DEs upfield and harmlessly past the QB. What a great year to be drafting a RT, with a guy like Ryan falling at least to 2nd round (Texans?)

Lutui played a nice game, but didn't bury his guys like Jean-Gilles, or consistently lock em up like Joseph or Setterstrom, he also didn't move in space as well as Spencer. Its not an indictment of Latui as much as props for the other 4. Yet another guy in the great top tier of OGs. Latui was playing a lot lighter than his reported weight at USC, so he could be in an adjustment period. I can't argue with any of these guards as 2nd round picks, and MJG should go in the first.

Harper really stood out and cemented his first day status. Definitely the biggest hitter of the DBs in the game.

Griffin - see my other thread - for how great his INT was, his bread and butter coverage skills were weak and tentative.

Ryans and Hagan are covered in my other thread. Hill got beat bad in zone coverage, but I still think he's the best man cover guy in the draft. The Qbs were not throwing to WR much at all, so we just didnt see it.

 

[Gold Plated Nails]

Bloom, who were you most impressed with? I'd have to say DeAngelo Williams. He really looked fantastic.

 

[Duffy]

Williams did not disappoint. He was very solid all around. What separates him from most other RBs is his vision. He displayed great quickness with some power, but he just looked like he new what he was doing...all the time.

I was a little disappointed we didn't get to see more from Norwood or Addai. Norwood never seemed to be able to get it going...and Addai wasn't given much of an opportunity. I suppose having a lesser QB playing when he was in there didn't help matters, but neither Norwood or Addai did much of anything that I can remember. Norwood's quickness on his kick return was impressive.

There were a couple of RBs that did surprise me...Harrison and Whitehead. Harrison blew me away with his effort and instinct...not to mention quick feet, on the last drive of the game. Everybody keeps saying how small he is, but the guy makes people miss, and displayed considerable power. The Tiki Barber comparisons being thrown around out there look to be valid imo. And Whitehead...wow, the kid can bring it. At 217 lbs, he might not be considered a 'bruising' RB by NFL standards, but don't try to tell him that! I can remember only one run where he didn't physically punish the defense.

At WR Moss made the most of his opportunity, while Hagan continued to struggle mightily with consistency. I was hoping to see more of Stovall after hearing good reviews from the practice sessions. But aside from Moss...I actually came away more impressed by some of the WRs from the Shrine game.

Byrd > Marcedes...at least from what I saw in the Senior Bowl. It will be interesting to see the order in which the TEs come off the board in April...and where they'll be picked in dynasty drafts as well.

Have to agree on Roach. He's got a motor...and the hit he made near the goal line on Robinson was a beauty! Lawson and Hali both helped themselves as well.

 

[Bloom]

Williams did not disappoint. He was very solid all around. What separates him from most other RBs is his vision. He displayed great quickness with some power, but he just looked like he new what he was doing...all the time.

I was a little disappointed we didn't get to see more from Norwood or Addai. Norwood never seemed to be able to get it going...and Addai wasn't given much of an opportunity. I suppose having a lesser QB playing when he was in there didn't help matters, but neither Norwood or Addai did much of anything that I can remember. Norwood's quickness on his kick return was impressive.

There were a couple of RBs that did surprise me...Harrison and Whitehead. Harrison blew me away with his effort and instinct...not to mention quick feet, on the last drive of the game. Everybody keeps saying how small he is, but the guy makes people miss, and displayed considerable power. The Tiki Barber comparisons being thrown around out there look to be valid imo. And Whitehead...wow, the kid can bring it. At 217 lbs, he might not be considered a 'bruising' RB by NFL standards, but don't try to tell him that! I can remember only one run where he didn't physically punish the defense.

At WR Moss made the most of his opportunity, while Hagan continued to struggle mightily with consistency. I was hoping to see more of Stovall after hearing good reviews from the practice sessions. But aside from Moss...I actually came away more impressed by some of the WRs from the Shrine game.

Byrd > Marcedes...at least from what I saw in the Senior Bowl. It will be interesting to see the order in which the TEs come off the board in April...and where they'll be picked in dynasty drafts as well.

Have to agree on Roach. He's got a motor...and the hit he made near the goal line on Robinson was a beauty! Lawson and Hali both helped themselves as well.

Norwood and Addai never got a chance to get going. Norwood's fumble was certainly disappointing, but for the most part there was not enough to have a strong feeling either way. Whitehead was very close to the cut off for the ten that impressed me the most. He was a physical, rugged runner, taking the contact to tacklers and sometimes carrying them with him. He looked like a good one-cut runner (denver?). I still don't know if he has the moves or speed to be a featured back in a running offense, but I like his chances of becoming a Verron Haynes type FB/HB tweener - excellent 3rd down back at worst with his set of skills and physical style.Like Norwood and Addai, I dont think most of the WR got enough action to make an opinion either way.

Lewis's only catch (an impressive one on a bullet from Hackney) was wiped out by penalty. I still think Lewis is a more natural pass catching TE than Byrd, although the ease with which Byrd got open downfield was eye-opening. Ive been high on Byrd for a while and was hoping to snag him in the 20s of rookie drafts this Spring. Doesnt look like that will happen now.

 

[Not Really Mel Kiper]

Deangelo Williams and Jean-Giles stood out in my mind. Williams will now be a top ten pick, Im thinking the niners will take him for sure, and Im hoping the Seahawks (homer) take Jean-Giles to replace Gray next year!!

 

[Urinal Mint]

I think DeAngelo Williams is gonna end up being the best RB out of this class. He reminds me of Tomlinson.

 

[bshipper]

I find it interesting that there is no mention of Charlie Whitehurst so far. He outplayed the golden boy Cutler (I realize it was limited action in an all-star game), but he seems to have slipped through. For a guy with his size, projected as a second day pick, I wouldn't mind it if the Bengals took him in the 4th-5th round as Palmer's insurance for the future.I am curious to hear other thoughts on Whitehurst.

 

[Bloom]

I find it interesting that there is no mention of Charlie Whitehurst so far. He outplayed the golden boy Cutler (I realize it was limited action in an all-star game), but he seems to have slipped through. For a guy with his size, projected as a second day pick, I wouldn't mind it if the Bengals took him in the 4th-5th round as Palmer's insurance for the future.

I am curious to hear other thoughts on Whitehurst.

I have to say, I came into the week very biased against Whitehurst. He just seemed like a fraud QB, the kind that looks the part and can make the throws, but will always be undermined by his poor decision making. His performance in the game was the best of any QB, and thats less than 2 months removed from his shoulder surgery. It could also explain why his passes fluttered a little. Still, the thing I was watching the most, the decision making, was excellent. In a class of QBs without any clear #5 guy, Whitehurst could vault into that position if his shoulder checks out.

 

[Wadsworth]

I watched the game but have only watched the Tivo of it once so far. My first and biggest impression is something that Bloom touched on; there are a lot of quality O-linemen in this draft. The tackles got a lot of the press during the season and coming into the post season, but the guards have put on a show as well. You can even throw the TEs into this group. Orginally the TE class was thought to be 3 deep. It's obvious that the class goes at least 5 deep and perhaps more, especially when you look at some of the big WRs that could convert. I don't know what the first day record for O-linemen taken in the draft is, but it could be pushed this year. Not only are the O-linemen strong and deep, but there's real weakness at other positions such as WR and groups like QB and RB appear top heavy.

 

[Bloom]

I watched the game but have only watched the Tivo of it once so far. My first and biggest impression is something that Bloom touched on; there are a lot of quality O-linemen in this draft. The tackles got a lot of the press during the season and coming into the post season, but the guards have put on a show as well. You can even throw the TEs into this group. Orginally the TE class was thought to be 3 deep. It's obvious that the class goes at least 5 deep and perhaps more, especially when you look at some of the big WRs that could convert.

I don't know what the first day record for O-linemen taken in the draft is, but it could be pushed this year. Not only are the O-linemen strong and deep, but there's real weakness at other positions such as WR and groups like QB and RB appear top heavy.

Just for comparison's sake, only 3 interior linemen went in the first two rounds last year (Baas-SF, Spencer-SEA, and Mankins-NE). This year, i think at least 2 centers (mangold(OSU), eslinger(Minn)) and 4-5 guards (MJG, Joseph, Lutui, Spencer, Sims, Setterstrom) are legit picks in the first two rounds. There is terrific value to be found in this draft at every position on the Oline. You can get stalwart starters on the interior line and RT in the 2nd and 3rd, and a possible franchise LT anywhere in the 1st, and maybe into the 2nd.

 

[Wadsworth]

I watched the game but have only watched the Tivo of it once so far. My first and biggest impression is something that Bloom touched on; there are a lot of quality O-linemen in this draft. The tackles got a lot of the press during the season and coming into the post season, but the guards have put on a show as well. You can even throw the TEs into this group. Orginally the TE class was thought to be 3 deep. It's obvious that the class goes at least 5 deep and perhaps more, especially when you look at some of the big WRs that could convert.

I don't know what the first day record for O-linemen taken in the draft is, but it could be pushed this year. Not only are the O-linemen strong and deep, but there's real weakness at other positions such as WR and groups like QB and RB appear top heavy.

Just for comparison's sake, only 3 interior linemen went in the first two rounds last year (Baas-SF, Spencer-SEA, and Mankins-NE). This year, i think at least 2 centers (mangold(OSU), eslinger(Minn)) and 4-5 guards (MJG, Joseph, Lutui, Spencer, Sims, Setterstrom) are legit picks in the first two rounds. There is terrific value to be found in this draft at every position on the Oline. You can get stalwart starters on the interior line and RT in the 2nd and 3rd, and a possible franchise LT anywhere in the 1st, and maybe into the 2nd.

I agree. And the only reason few people are talking about the tackles is that this class was already considered very strong and deep at tackle. I wonder what the over/under would be for first day O-linemen in this draft. Any guesses Bloom?

 

[Chaos Commish]

I watched the game but have only watched the Tivo of it once so far. My first and biggest impression is something that Bloom touched on; there are a lot of quality O-linemen in this draft. The tackles got a lot of the press during the season and coming into the post season, but the guards have put on a show as well. You can even throw the TEs into this group. Orginally the TE class was thought to be 3 deep. It's obvious that the class goes at least 5 deep and perhaps more, especially when you look at some of the big WRs that could convert.

I don't know what the first day record for O-linemen taken in the draft is, but it could be pushed this year. Not only are the O-linemen strong and deep, but there's real weakness at other positions such as WR and groups like QB and RB appear top heavy.

Just for comparison's sake, only 3 interior linemen went in the first two rounds last year (Baas-SF, Spencer-SEA, and Mankins-NE). This year, i think at least 2 centers (mangold(OSU), eslinger(Minn)) and 4-5 guards (MJG, Joseph, Lutui, Spencer, Sims, Setterstrom) are legit picks in the first two rounds. There is terrific value to be found in this draft at every position on the Oline. You can get stalwart starters on the interior line and RT in the 2nd and 3rd, and a possible franchise LT anywhere in the 1st, and maybe into the 2nd.

I agree. And the only reason few people are talking about the tackles is that this class was already considered very strong and deep at tackle. I wonder what the over/under would be for first day O-linemen in this draft. Any guesses Bloom?

I'm trying to edit a long piece on the lineman, but I have other things to do. The record for first round OL is 8. I thought it was six, but there was an 8 OL first round in the mid 90s. I think 8 is really pushing it for this first round, and I still cannot decide what the supply'ss affect on the demand will be. Just scanning the list of top 3 round grades, and I think the over/under should be 15-18??One player not getting media props who had an almost spectacular week after a bad first day of practice is Ryan Cook. I listed rankings from a friend who was there and paying very close attention to the lineman, and he had Cook at #8. Greater than Trueblood, Joseph, Mangold, Setterstrom, Spencer and Jean-Gilles.

I'll discuss him better and why he grades so high soon, but to validate that, my friend sat with a scout on the plane ride home. He wasn't much for having his brain picked, but he did say no lineman did more to increase his draft position than Ryan Cook.

Finally, Scout.com was nice enough to make this recap free for the public, and it seems to validate the Cook reports (article):

D’brickashaw Ferguson, the left-tackle from Virginia already considered an early draft choice, cemented his status as a top five selection. Ferguson stonewalled opponents all week and was rarely beat. If he's still around when the 49ers pick in the first round, San Francisco will have to give serious consideration to a player who still has plenty of room to grow.

Nick Mangold from Ohio State was possibly the best Senior Bowl center of the past five years. Like Ferguson, he was relentless against opponents, not giving up an inch of room and looked unbeatable all week. Mangold significantly elevated his draft stock and will receive consideration in the late part of Round 1. He's another prospect that will be considered for San Francisco's top pick in Round 2.

Pittsburgh’s Charles Spencer, Oklahoma’s Davin Joseph also stood out for the North. Ryan Cook from New Mexico was the lone blocker from the South squad who was given high grades from scouts.

In a nutshell, among the really big dudes over 320, Cook had the best hands and feet. He excelled at three different positions and was stoning players who everyone else struggled with. He and Jonathan Scott made it look effortless, but Cook did it at tackle, guard and center. Someone to think about who doesn't get much attention, but is very talented... and nasty.

 

[Barry Jive and The Uptown Five]

I'm trying to edit a long piece on the lineman, but I have other things to do. The record for first round OL is 8. I thought it was six, but there was an 8 OL first round in the mid 90s. I think 8 is really pushing it for this first round, and I still cannot decide what the supply'ss affect on the demand will be. Just scanning the list of top 3 round grades, and I think the over/under should be 15-18??

It's often a contrary effect, despite what many think. And it's especially true for the lineman. When there is a large pool of quality players, the trend is to suppress their draft status. Teams will invest their top picks for guys that they really like at positions where they have clear-cut favorites. When there's 8-10 guys with similar grades, the war rooms will wait and take the one that falls to them, creating greater value.If the war rooms agree with everyone here on the large number of OL prospects, the OL might actualy see a drop in their ACTUAL draft position, despite having higher grades.

 

[cosmonaut]

I'm trying to edit a long piece on the lineman, but I have other things to do.  The record for first round OL is 8. I thought it was six, but there was an 8 OL first round in the mid 90s.  I think 8 is really pushing it for this first round, and I still cannot decide what the supply'ss affect on the demand will be.  Just scanning the list of top 3 round grades, and I think the over/under should be 15-18??

It's often a contrary effect, despite what many think. And it's especially true for the lineman. When there is a large pool of quality players, the trend is to suppress their draft status. Teams will invest their top picks for guys that they really like at positions where they have clear-cut favorites. When there's 8-10 guys with similar grades, the war rooms will wait and take the one that falls to them, creating greater value.If the war rooms agree with everyone here on the large number of OL prospects, the OL might actualy see a drop in their ACTUAL draft position, despite having higher grades.

Not only this, but I think it invites trading down. If I want an OL and there's 6 in the same tier on the board, I start calling around and see who wants to move up a few spots and grab that explosive pass rusher, QB or RB still on the board.

 

[malaka]

Great thread, one of the best I have read this year.

 

[Chaos Commish]

First Day 0-Lineman:(off the top of my head if I forget someone, and in no particular order.)1. Ferguson2. Justice3. Winston4. Scott5. McNeill6. Jean-Gilles7. Colledge8. Whitworth9. O'Callaghan10. Lutui11. Joseph12. Mangold13. Eslinger14. Trueblood15. Spencer16. Spitz17. Sims18. CookI doubt any of these fall to day 2, but it's possible for three or four of them. Likewise, there's a few others who could end up in the first day.