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Shady Commish - Need Input (1 Viewer)

Is commish abusing his powers?

  • Yes, horrible abuse of powers

    Votes: 18 78.3%
  • Maybe, but nothing to really get upset over

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • No, he hasn't done anything that bad

    Votes: 3 13.0%

  • Total voters
    23

skins001

Footballguy
My friend is in the first year of a work league, $160ish buy in. I help him with a few tips on managing his team from time to time, and have been noticing some very shady commish behavior. I appreciate your input - please let me know if I'm overreacting.

1) Waivers run on Thursday and Saturday mornings. There is no FA period. On Sept 21, he changed this to make the 2nd waivers of the week run on Sunday morning. I told my friend that it is not fair or ethical to change any rules when the draft has happened (let alone part way through the season).

2) Thurs 10/27 Waivers run as normal at 1:45 AM, SD has first priority and grabbed Tashard Choice. 3 teams did not make any waiver pickups. Later that day, at 12:01 pm, commish allows SD to pick up Jared Cook and a Kicker. All players are on waivers, next available chance should have been Sunday morning. I tell my friend to talk to the commish about it, and he said that it's a glitch in the CBS system that if you add/drop 2 people it'll give you the top 2 on your waivers list automatically. I haven't played CBS before, but this seems far fetched to me. Commish also says it doesn't matter because ER would have first priority anyways (untrue because he picked up someone during the waiver period when not every team did). I feel that it is unfair that he is allowed to pick up players outside the normal waivers process.

3) Sun 10/30 I am looking at the matchup, at 1PM the opponent "DH" has an illegal roster. He is starting 3 flex options (Lance Moore, Robert Meachem, and Ricky Wiliams), when we are only allowed 1. He has an open WR slot and an open TE slot. These 3 flex players are all playing at 1PM. Under the league rules page, illegal rosters are scored as zero points. At 8:28 PM, Ricky Williams was moved from Flex to Bench, Meachem was moved from Flex to WR, and Jermichael Finley (on bye - his only TE) was moved from Bench to TE. He now has an active roster and scores 66 points. My friend ends up winning the matchup regardless. However, total points are a tie breaker for standings. Regardless of the outcome, I feel that this was wrong because it may affect standings due to the extra 66 pts this team received.

4) Sun 11/6 I see that the opponent "WW" has not picked up a DST for the matchup after the sunday morning waivers have already run. WW's IDP is on bye, and does not have another DST on the team. I check the matchup when the games start, and see that Falcons DST is now on WW's team bench, manually awarded at 11:41 AM. Lion's DST is still Active, and Falcon's are already playing the Colts. Mon 11/7 6:29 PM the commish manually moves Lions DST to WW's bench and activates Falcons DST. This is more than a full day after Falcons DST has played. It will probably not end up affecting the machup outcome, but I feel it is unfair for the same reason as #3. This is 18pts someone should not have, and could be the difference later.

I apologize for this being so long, but I wanted to lay out all the evidence out there for my friend. I think it is unfair that some people get special treatment, and that the commish abuses his powers. It's my friend's first year in a fantasy football league and he may not fully understand how bad these commish moves are. Or am I overreacting (wouldn't be the first time)? A sanity check would be nice. What would you do? This is a work league, so rocking the boat has to be done the right way. But it's also a money league for a good amount of money.

Thanks.

EDIT: to correct #2

 
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whats there to say? just tell him to find another league.
I'd like to give my friend some responses with you guys' opinions to be able to either point to this thread when he makes his case or drop the issue...
I think youve done a good enough job laying everything out. I dunno what kind of help you need from a bunch of strangers when you have witnessed first hand all this nonsense.
 
kind of weird that not filling out all your spots gives you an auto-zero, no?

but yes clearly shady

 
whats there to say? just tell him to find another league.
I'd like to give my friend some responses with you guys' opinions to be able to either point to this thread when he makes his case or drop the issue...
I think youve done a good enough job laying everything out. I dunno what kind of help you need from a bunch of strangers when you have witnessed first hand all this nonsense.
Mainly because the commish obviously doesn't think it's nonsense. But if the replies in this thread are like 10:1 thinking it's ridiculous he can go back and make his point. Or if it's the other way around I can stop overreacting. Maybe the better question is, shady or not?
 
I dont view it as shady, i see it as stupid. You have rules, you follow them otherwise whats the point? we will just make it up as we go and see fit. NO!

 
I dont view it as shady, i see it as stupid. You have rules, you follow them otherwise whats the point? we will just make it up as we go and see fit. NO!
Especially not with a $160 buy in. For that kind of money the league should be a little more professional than that.
 
Changing rules in midstream is unacceptable barring a league vote (assuming there is a provision for such a vote in the rules). The lineup changes outlined above are completely unethical. I would never participate in this dude's league again.

 
First mistake was joining a significant money league with people that he works with. It's about the equivalent of dating someone where you work. There's too much chance of someone getting upset or being unethical, and then having it affect one's job negatively as they have to deal with the person.

 
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Ok.

It seems there is a consensus that it's shady.

The real issue is what to do about it. This is a work league so there are a great number of variables in play. Where is he on the totem pole position-wise? Is he well-liked to the point he could raise the issue and not cause a problem for himself at work? Is this a career or just a job? Are these co-workers also social friends or literally just co-workers? Is his boss the commish? Lots of questions like that.....

Without knowing any more about the "work league" dynamics, I think your friend needs to err on the side of caution, maybe raise the issue jokingly, but definitely do not stir the pot. I think he plays out the season to the best of his ability, see what happens, and makes the decision next year as to whether he wants to play again in that league.

But definitely in no way would I do something that would in any way, shape, or form lessen my standing from a work standpoint over a $160 fantasy football league. Ain't worth it. Like I said though, a lot depends on the dynamics. If I knew for sure I was already in a good spot work wise, I think I'd probably confront the issue head on and ask how and why those moves happened. If for no other reason than to ensure they don't happen again.

 
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3) Sun 10/30 I am looking at the matchup, at 1PM the opponent "DH" has an illegal roster. He is starting 3 flex options (Lance Moore, Robert Meachem, and Ricky Wiliams), when we are only allowed 1. He has an open WR slot and an open TE slot. These 3 flex players are all playing at 1PM. Under the league rules page, illegal rosters are scored as zero points. At 8:28 PM, Ricky Williams was moved from Flex to Bench, Meachem was moved from Flex to WR, and Jermichael Finley (on bye - his only TE) was moved from Bench to TE. He now has an active roster and scores 66 points. My friend ends up winning the matchup regardless. However, total points are a tie breaker for standings. Regardless of the outcome, I feel that this was wrong because it may affect standings due to the extra 66 pts this team received.

4) Sun 11/6 I see that the opponent "WW" has not picked up a DST for the matchup after the sunday morning waivers have already run. WW's IDP is on bye, and does not have another DST on the team. I check the matchup when the games start, and see that Falcons DST is now on WW's team bench, manually awarded at 11:41 AM. Lion's DST is still Active, and Falcon's are already playing the Colts. Mon 11/7 6:29 PM the commish manually moves Lions DST to WW's bench and activates Falcons DST. This is more than a full day after Falcons DST has played. It will probably not end up affecting the machup outcome, but I feel it is unfair for the same reason as #3. This is 18pts someone

should not have, and could be the difference later.
We? I thought this was a friend's team?In any case I would go to the commissioner and ask why he is manipulating starting rosters after those players games have already completed. I can't see a circumstance where that is kosher but at the very least he should have emailed the rest of the league to tell them why he was doing it. By not saying anything it sure makes it look like he was doing it counting on or hoping that no one would notice.

The integrity of the league has been tainted and I think if I were your "friend" I would ask for my money back.

 
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3) Sun 10/30 I am looking at the matchup, at 1PM the opponent "DH" has an illegal roster. He is starting 3 flex options (Lance Moore, Robert Meachem, and Ricky Wiliams), when we are only allowed 1. He has an open WR slot and an open TE slot. These 3 flex players are all playing at 1PM. Under the league rules page, illegal rosters are scored as zero points. At 8:28 PM, Ricky Williams was moved from Flex to Bench, Meachem was moved from Flex to WR, and Jermichael Finley (on bye - his only TE) was moved from Bench to TE. He now has an active roster and scores 66 points. My friend ends up winning the matchup regardless. However, total points are a tie breaker for standings. Regardless of the outcome, I feel that this was wrong because it may affect standings due to the extra 66 pts this team received.

4) Sun 11/6 I see that the opponent "WW" has not picked up a DST for the matchup after the sunday morning waivers have already run. WW's IDP is on bye, and does not have another DST on the team. I check the matchup when the games start, and see that Falcons DST is now on WW's team bench, manually awarded at 11:41 AM. Lion's DST is still Active, and Falcon's are already playing the Colts. Mon 11/7 6:29 PM the commish manually moves Lions DST to WW's bench and activates Falcons DST. This is more than a full day after Falcons DST has played. It will probably not end up affecting the machup outcome, but I feel it is unfair for the same reason as #3. This is 18pts someone

should not have, and could be the difference later.
We? I thought this was a friend's team?In any case I would go to the commissioner and ask why he is manipulating starting rosters after those players games have already completed. I can't see a circumstance where that is kosher but at the very least he should have emailed the rest of the league to tell them why he was doing it. By not saying anything it sure makes it look like he was doing it counting on or hoping that no one would notice.

The integrity of the league has been tainted and I think if I were your "friend" I would ask for my money back.
What should be done? Its a work league so go office space on the commish...then tell him to stop or money back. Explain the pts factor as well.
 
Changing rules in midstream is unacceptable barring a league vote (assuming there is a provision for such a vote in the rules). The lineup changes outlined above are completely unethical. I would never participate in this dude's league again.
^^^^ This. Especially in money leagues - you play by the rules ONLY!
 
Is there a chance that the moves in question were called in/told directly to the Commish & he just waited to make the moves until he had access to the website?

 
Is there a chance that the moves in question were called in/told directly to the Commish & he just waited to make the moves until he had access to the website?
Even if this was the case he should have let everyone know what he was doing and why he was doing it. You can't just make lineup changes once games have started/completed without letting people know.
 
First mistake was joining a significant money league with people that he works with. It's about the equivalent of dating someone where you work. There's too much chance of someone getting upset or being unethical, and then having it affect one's job negatively as they have to deal with the person.
I have been working from home on my own since 2003, but even I know this is not going to end well. While I am not going to say this is "shady" (yet), I do think at best, the Commish is wickedly unorganized and in way over his head...at best.
 

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