Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I think we can safely say #8 with RGIII going to the Skins and Kendall Wright to the Jags as before.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I know it was mentioned over the weekend, but it'd be shocking if a guard went that high.Who else might they consider?
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The Hank
Footballguy
Riding high after yesterday, eh?
My apologies AD, just wanted to put the period at the end of that sentence. 
Now I think that TB could go with Richardson, as that is the consensus right now, I'm just of the belief they'd be better served signing a FA RB to complement what they have there and go and try and rebuild their defense to fit their (likely) new scheme.That's just me though. 
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eakfootball
Footballguy
I confirm it
The Hank
Footballguy
Well there we go, its settled.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
It's true. There should be a few decent free agent RBs to choose from which might push Richardson further down the draft board (but shouldn't since he's better and younger than they are).Now I think that TB could go with Richardson, as that is the consensus right now, I'm just of the belief they'd be better served signing a FA RB to complement what they have there and go and try and rebuild their defense to fit their (likely) new scheme.That's just me though.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Word.
Kirby
Footballguy
9's just not a good spot for them.. they need 2 OL, QB, WR, TE, Rush LB, FS, maybe a CB.I think they trade down irl.
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The Hank
Footballguy
What would their line look like with DeCastro in there?
Kirby
Footballguy
Long - Incognito - Pouncy - DeCastro and I guess Carey back at RT? Maybe Jerry.
The Hank
Footballguy
That looks like a pretty damn good line.
eric rymer
Footballguy
Ok so at 1.9 need meets talent.
Carolina Panthers select Dre Kirkpatrick, CB Alabama
The two biggest needs are D-line and CB. I don't see any D-line player deserving top 10. Dre is that type of talent at CB. I don't have a problem with the guy over the weed. I have a problem with the judgement used 3 months before the draft. But it is just far to great a need to pass up.
Michael Floyd was also strongly considered here. Steve Smith is obviously not getting any younger and could use a compliment/replacement. LaFell, Naanee and Edwards are just not getting is done at the WR2 spot. The final reasoning is that Carolina had the 5th ranked offense and was putrid on defense. I think they'll try to address WR/D-line through FA or in the 2nd round.
ETA: also considered Rieff to bookend the O-line with Gross.
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Carolina Panthers select Dre Kirkpatrick, CB Alabama
The two biggest needs are D-line and CB. I don't see any D-line player deserving top 10. Dre is that type of talent at CB. I don't have a problem with the guy over the weed. I have a problem with the judgement used 3 months before the draft. But it is just far to great a need to pass up.
Michael Floyd was also strongly considered here. Steve Smith is obviously not getting any younger and could use a compliment/replacement. LaFell, Naanee and Edwards are just not getting is done at the WR2 spot. The final reasoning is that Carolina had the 5th ranked offense and was putrid on defense. I think they'll try to address WR/D-line through FA or in the 2nd round.
ETA: also considered Rieff to bookend the O-line with Gross.
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Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Andy, I may be wrong but I am not sure that Riz knows you RE-STARTED the ENTIRE DRAFT sans trades. In the original draft RG III was not there with the fourth pick so he went with Claiborne.
He may not have understood since you did not start at the begining and assumed the first two picks would be the same, restarting the draft at the third pick.
The first two picks up to that point were:
1 Indianapolis Colts - higgins - Andrew Luck, QB - Stanford
2. St. Louis Rams - r0llin_game - Justin Blackmon, QR - Oklahoma St.
Andy you restarted at the third pick and selected:
3. Minnesota Vikings - Andy D - Matt Kalil, OT - USC
Riz jumped in and took:
4. Cleveland Browns - rizzler - Morris Claiborne, CB - LSU
If Riz truly wants Claiborne then fine but he recetly started this thread where he calls RG III the best QB in this draft:
Rizzler says > Robert Griffin #1 QB book it Riz- ...Solidified best QB from the upcoming draft... may not go first.. maybe not even second (the Barkley drink is flowing way too hard), but he WILL be the best QB in this class, and be an elite QB for yrs to come...
Now Riz may have ADD and he may bounce off the walls from RG III to Mo Claiborne but I think you should make it clear to him that RG III would be available to him in this scenario.
He may have changed his mind or he may possibly think the Browns will get a QB from some other source but I just wanted him to be clear that RG III was available to him because the draft has been a cluster #@&& up to this point so maybe you should just lock this thread up and begin a fresh new thread starting at the begining so no-one can get confused.
He may not have understood since you did not start at the begining and assumed the first two picks would be the same, restarting the draft at the third pick.
The first two picks up to that point were:
1 Indianapolis Colts - higgins - Andrew Luck, QB - Stanford
2. St. Louis Rams - r0llin_game - Justin Blackmon, QR - Oklahoma St.
Andy you restarted at the third pick and selected:
3. Minnesota Vikings - Andy D - Matt Kalil, OT - USC
Riz jumped in and took:
4. Cleveland Browns - rizzler - Morris Claiborne, CB - LSU
If Riz truly wants Claiborne then fine but he recetly started this thread where he calls RG III the best QB in this draft:
Rizzler says > Robert Griffin #1 QB book it Riz- ...Solidified best QB from the upcoming draft... may not go first.. maybe not even second (the Barkley drink is flowing way too hard), but he WILL be the best QB in this class, and be an elite QB for yrs to come...
Now Riz may have ADD and he may bounce off the walls from RG III to Mo Claiborne but I think you should make it clear to him that RG III would be available to him in this scenario.
He may have changed his mind or he may possibly think the Browns will get a QB from some other source but I just wanted him to be clear that RG III was available to him because the draft has been a cluster #@&& up to this point so maybe you should just lock this thread up and begin a fresh new thread starting at the begining so no-one can get confused.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Thanks, but post #415 makes it clear that he knows what's going on.
eric rymer
Footballguy
He PM'd me early Friday with his draft order and Claiborne was his 1st choice with RG3 second.
1.10 Buffalo Bills Select Quinton Coples DE UNC
This is where TURRIBLE PASS RUSH meets TURRIBLE PICK.
As everyone knows The bills pass rush is an embarrassment. Unfortunately I think all of the DE's are not that great this year but think they have to go DE as well. I was tempted to go Keuchly but I just do not think the Bills will go for him (even though I would prefer it at 10).
If the Bills want a DE I have them in order Coples, Upshaw, Mercilos, Perry. I am hoping they trade down as I think they all are pretty close in my mind so I am hoping they trade down. If they trade down I am fine with it. I however do not think they will trade down and also think they will botch the pick (it is the Bills DUHHHH).
This is where TURRIBLE PASS RUSH meets TURRIBLE PICK.
As everyone knows The bills pass rush is an embarrassment. Unfortunately I think all of the DE's are not that great this year but think they have to go DE as well. I was tempted to go Keuchly but I just do not think the Bills will go for him (even though I would prefer it at 10).
If the Bills want a DE I have them in order Coples, Upshaw, Mercilos, Perry. I am hoping they trade down as I think they all are pretty close in my mind so I am hoping they trade down. If they trade down I am fine with it. I however do not think they will trade down and also think they will botch the pick (it is the Bills DUHHHH).
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scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
It's certainly his choice and I'm no Brown's fan, but if this went down in the real draft I've got to assume the Dawg Pound would be foaming at the mouth.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Thats cool. Just wanted to be sure that he understood.If Mo Claiborne is the guy that the Browns want I think Heckertt will be working the phones to trade-down and pick up extras.I honestly think they had their hearts set on Barkley and would love to pick up extra picks in next year's draft to have extra ammo to move up if they need it to get a crack at him.This year they may do a trial baloon on Kolb and see if that works out but I don't think they will stand pat on the QB position.
rizzler
Footballguy
Bracie, I truly meant to take Claiborne.
For reasons I have stated already. Im putting myself in the shoes of management, who for the most part, seem dedicated to building a defense first.
I hope Im wrong, and we take RG3 (thats what I want), but the organization may want something else...
And if we DO go the defensive route, well there's no better pick at that spot than Claiborne. We basically catapult ourselves into elite pass DEF territory (close already), ans build up from there.
dont like my pick?
For reasons I have stated already. Im putting myself in the shoes of management, who for the most part, seem dedicated to building a defense first.
I hope Im wrong, and we take RG3 (thats what I want), but the organization may want something else...
And if we DO go the defensive route, well there's no better pick at that spot than Claiborne. We basically catapult ourselves into elite pass DEF territory (close already), ans build up from there.
dont like my pick?
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rizzler
Footballguy
Trade down to who? The Bucs are gonna grab Claiborne with raging hard-ons if we pass on him, at the no5 pick
The Hank
Footballguy
Haden/Claiborne would be scary.
The Hank
Footballguy
eric rymer
Footballguy
maybe salivating. lol. From the feedback in the Browns forum I don't think we'd be that upset. It would really lock up that secondary in a pass first division. We still have another 1st and an early 2nd to work with to address our offensive woes.
I really think this is who we wanted. From Rizzler:
Sent 20 January 2012 - 10:11 AM
#4 Overall
In Order: 1) Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
if gone: 2) Robert Griffin, QB, Baylor
if gone: 3) Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama.
Can you please post this reasoning as well, if I get Claiborne or Kirkpatrick.
"Surprise, surprise... a CB. Now, some of you may have expected me to take RG3, and I would have. But I'm going a different direction with this pick.
Haden is a star in the making, while Sheldon Brown really picked it up this year. Problem is, Brown is becoming (is) an old man. Skrine and Patterson could be good replacements, but I have a better idea up my sleeve.
The Browns will use this pick to bolster their defense with an elite talent to compliment Joe Haden. In a division where D is king, the Browns go balls deep and make their pass defense the envy of the NFL.
pick: Morris Claiborne OR Dre Kirkpatrick.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
What if it were to go down like this, and RG3 and the Redskins come to Cleveland in 2012 and tear up their elite pass defense? Wouldn't that be something?
I believe there is overthinking in these things. We're talking about a potential franchise QB here.
rizzler
Footballguy
Im not overthinking. I want and hope we take RG3... ask ANYONE who reads my posts.I just have a gut feeling we go defense (which I am NOT keen on, when RG3 is there... but if we do, it better be Claiborne)
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
You're the GM. Make your pick based on what you would do if running the franchise.In 2009 the majority of Lions fans I know (live in MI) wanted Aaron Curry with the 1st overall pick. They did not believe Stafford was the right pick there. Aaron Curry was a can't miss. The guys I know who said this don't talk about it anymore. If your team blows and you have an early pick in the draft with a potential franchise QB sitting there, you take him imo. Especially if your current QB is Colt McCoy.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Duckboy, you're on.
Hopefully Stinkin Ref is around a bit more than on the weekends.
Hopefully Stinkin Ref is around a bit more than on the weekends.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
I just wanted to make sure you understood that RG III was there since it seemed like you wanted him.I think the organization is going to make a move for a QB. Browns owner Randy Lerner makes it crystal clear a change is needed at QB.
Randy Lerner interview...
the quarterback situation, telling Trivisonno: "I'm not a talent evaluator, to say the least, or anything like one. At some point as a Browns fan when you look around and see Pittsburgh needing a quarterback and dealing with Kordell Stewart or dealing with Tommy Maddox or whatever. ... They made a move. They committed to the move and they've succeeded with that move.
"Baltimore with Kyle Boller and that didn't work out. And they tried and made a move and got [Joe] Flacco. I think one of the things that is crucial right now is to take a significant step forward is to try if you can to get this quarterback situation settled."
Trivisonno asked: "Can that quarterback, from the owner's perspective, be Colt McCoy?"
Lerner said: "I suddenly lose the ability to speak when I'm asked that question."
When Heckertt took over the Browns pass defense was atrocious and Heck had a history of nailing DB picks. Haden was there with his first pick, no brainer. He loved TJ. His first two picks were defensive backs.
Second year he made the trade-down. The team had switched its defensive scheme, just as in his first year Heckert saw the glaring need we were in dire need of D-Linemen and had to try to fill other holes.
First two picks, defensive linemen.
This year?
What is the glaring need?
Anyone can check the stats where the Browns finished 30th in scoring, and then pick and choose any number of offensive stats. Our pass defense is already in the top-five. If they listen to Randy Lerner it seems he has an opinion. When Holgren signed on some of his first words were to the effect that it all begins with the quarterback.
I think they were set to go with Barkley and now they may have downshifted to Kolb since it appears that Miami is going to make a big play for Flynn.
RG III is very raw, at least two or three years away from getting up to speed IMHO if he went to a WCO team. He may be available when the Browns pick and I would imagine Washington does want him. That scenario could set the table for getting extra picks for next year.
I don't think Claiborne is the guy they want. The Browns finished in the top-five in pass defense and it earned them a 4-12 record.
Odd that the New York Giants and the New England Patriots are top-five in pass offense. The G-Men strength is rushing the passer up front.
If I were to build a dominating defense that is where I would start, up front with pass rushers. This draft is deep with DBs. I think a quality one will be there for the taking at the 22nd pick but I am not sure that is what Heckertt will do there.
Right now I am not sure what happens with our top pick but our most glaring need is not with our top-five pass defense. Just my humble-O.
rizzler
Footballguy
Id agree with this if haden's opposite wasnt on his last legs.it'll be very interesting to see what they do.Im sure ill get bum hurt, when they draft richardsonRight now I am not sure what happens with our top pick but our most glaring need is not with our top-five pass defense. Just my humble-O.
rizzler
Footballguy
Id agree with this if haden's opposite wasnt on his last legs.it'll be very interesting to see what they do.Im sure ill get bum hurt, when they draft richardsonRight now I am not sure what happens with our top pick but our most glaring need is not with our top-five pass defense. Just my humble-O.
eric rymer
Footballguy
VeryI just wanted to make sure you understood that RG III was there since it seemed like you wanted him.I think the organization is going to make a move for a QB. Browns owner Randy Lerner makes it crystal clear a change is needed at QB.
Randy Lerner interview...
the quarterback situation, telling Trivisonno: "I'm not a talent evaluator, to say the least, or anything like one. At some point as a Browns fan when you look around and see Pittsburgh needing a quarterback and dealing with Kordell Stewart or dealing with Tommy Maddox or whatever. ... They made a move. They committed to the move and they've succeeded with that move.
"Baltimore with Kyle Boller and that didn't work out. And they tried and made a move and got [Joe] Flacco. I think one of the things that is crucial right now is to take a significant step forward is to try if you can to get this quarterback situation settled."
Trivisonno asked: "Can that quarterback, from the owner's perspective, be Colt McCoy?"
Lerner said: "I suddenly lose the ability to speak when I'm asked that question."
When Heckertt took over the Browns pass defense was atrocious and Heck had a history of nailing DB picks. Haden was there with his first pick, no brainer. He loved TJ. His first two picks were defensive backs.
Second year he made the trade-down. The team had switched its defensive scheme, just as in his first year Heckert saw the glaring need we were in dire need of D-Linemen and had to try to fill other holes.
First two picks, defensive linemen.
This year?
What is the glaring need?
Anyone can check the stats where the Browns finished 30th in scoring, and then pick and choose any number of offensive stats. Our pass defense is already in the top-five. If they listen to Randy Lerner it seems he has an opinion. When Holgren signed on some of his first words were to the effect that it all begins with the quarterback.
I think they were set to go with Barkley and now they may have downshifted to Kolb since it appears that Miami is going to make a big play for Flynn.
RG III is very raw, at least two or three years away from getting up to speed IMHO if he went to a WCO team. He may be available when the Browns pick and I would imagine Washington does want him. That scenario could set the table for getting extra picks for next year.
I don't think Claiborne is the guy they want. The Browns finished in the top-five in pass defense and it earned them a 4-12 record.
Odd that the New York Giants and the New England Patriots are top-five in pass offense. The G-Men strength is rushing the passer up front.
If I were to build a dominating defense that is where I would start, up front with pass rushers. This draft is deep with DBs. I think a quality one will be there for the taking at the 22nd pick but I am not sure that is what Heckertt will do there.
Right now I am not sure what happens with our top pick but our most glaring need is not with our top-five pass defense. Just my humble-O.
That's makes makes these pre-combine mocks so interesting is that they can go in so many directions and still make some sense.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
1) There is no quality pass rusher to take at #4 this year.2) They were #2 in pass defense because they were #30 in rush defense.If I were to build a dominating defense that is where I would start, up front with pass rushers. This draft is deep with DBs. I think a quality one will be there for the taking at the 22nd pick but I am not sure that is what Heckertt will do there.Right now I am not sure what happens with our top pick but our most glaring need is not with our top-five pass defense. Just my humble-O.
The Hank
Footballguy
If I were the Browns, I'd try and trade up from my 2nd 1st rounder and get Luke Kuechly from Boston College.They need linebackers.1) There is no quality pass rusher to take at #4 this year.2) They were #2 in pass defense because they were #30 in rush defense.If I were to build a dominating defense that is where I would start, up front with pass rushers. This draft is deep with DBs. I think a quality one will be there for the taking at the 22nd pick but I am not sure that is what Heckertt will do there.Right now I am not sure what happens with our top pick but our most glaring need is not with our top-five pass defense. Just my humble-O.
eric rymer
Footballguy
Kuechly is a MLB. I don't know about the rest but I am OK with Jackson at MLB. I really think our LB weakness is the OLB spot. I've not done much homework on him but can he play OLB? Maybe a guy like Upshaw instead.If I were the Browns, I'd try and trade up from my 2nd 1st rounder and get Luke Kuechly from Boston College.They need linebackers.1) There is no quality pass rusher to take at #4 this year.2) They were #2 in pass defense because they were #30 in rush defense.If I were to build a dominating defense that is where I would start, up front with pass rushers. This draft is deep with DBs. I think a quality one will be there for the taking at the 22nd pick but I am not sure that is what Heckertt will do there.Right now I am not sure what happens with our top pick but our most glaring need is not with our top-five pass defense. Just my humble-O.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Not sure if you understood but I'll clarify.If I were to build a dominating defense I would start up front with pass rushers.That is what I would do. This draft doesn't change how I would build a dominating defense. I never said I would draft a pass rusher at #4 because no-one rates that pick in this draft AFIC. My statement was in response to the explanation behind the Claiborne selection.If the Browns do wind up taking Claiborne I have no doubt he would be a great DB but the incremental gains would improve the overall defense in which way? By drafting a DB would it boost the run defense?And do you think that the 30th worst scoring team had any effect on opposing teams running the ball on the Browns?If they only require a small lead they can attain it by running the ball while at the same time they manage the field by stacking the box and forcing the Browns to pass assuring a TOP lead to help wear down the defense. So the rush defense argument works better against drafting a defensive back especially since you point out the rush defense was spotty. The issue is right defensive end and that is where most NFL teams have their best pass rusher. If one doesn't rate the fourth pick the team won't force it. I think they will weigh DEs with the 22nd pick, their may be one or two interesting prospects at that point in the draft but this draft is deep at DB so I am confident that a DB will be available at that point.I'm still not sure what the Browns want to do with their top pick.1) There is no quality pass rusher to take at #4 this year.2) They were #2 in pass defense because they were #30 in rush defense.If I were to build a dominating defense that is where I would start, up front with pass rushers. This draft is deep with DBs. I think a quality one will be there for the taking at the 22nd pick but I am not sure that is what Heckertt will do there.Right now I am not sure what happens with our top pick but our most glaring need is not with our top-five pass defense. Just my humble-O.
Just so we are clear there are no pass rushers to take at #10 this year either lol. I just do not like the rushers this year.1) There is no quality pass rusher to take at #4 this year.2) They were #2 in pass defense because they were #30 in rush defense.If I were to build a dominating defense that is where I would start, up front with pass rushers. This draft is deep with DBs. I think a quality one will be there for the taking at the 22nd pick but I am not sure that is what Heckertt will do there.
Right now I am not sure what happens with our top pick but our most glaring need is not with our top-five pass defense. Just my humble-O.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I think the Seahawks could take Floyd or Kuechly.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
You're right, I didn't and still don't.So who is it, exactly, that you're advocating they take?Not sure if you understood but I'll clarify.If I were to build a dominating defense I would start up front with pass rushers.1) There is no quality pass rusher to take at #4 this year.2) They were #2 in pass defense because they were #30 in rush defense.If I were to build a dominating defense that is where I would start, up front with pass rushers. This draft is deep with DBs. I think a quality one will be there for the taking at the 22nd pick but I am not sure that is what Heckertt will do there.
Right now I am not sure what happens with our top pick but our most glaring need is not with our top-five pass defense. Just my humble-O.
That is what I would do.
This draft doesn't change how I would build a dominating defense. I never said I would draft a pass rusher at #4 because no-one rates that pick in this draft AFIC. My statement was in response to the explanation behind the Claiborne selection.
If the Browns do wind up taking Claiborne I have no doubt he would be a great DB but the incremental gains would improve the overall defense in which way? By drafting a DB would it boost the run defense?
And do you think that the 30th worst scoring team had any effect on opposing teams running the ball on the Browns?
If they only require a small lead they can attain it by running the ball while at the same time they manage the field by stacking the box and forcing the Browns to pass assuring a TOP lead to help wear down the defense.
So the rush defense argument works better against drafting a defensive back especially since you point out the rush defense was spotty.
The issue is right defensive end and that is where most NFL teams have their best pass rusher. If one doesn't rate the fourth pick the team won't force it. I think they will weigh DEs with the 22nd pick, their may be one or two interesting prospects at that point in the draft but this draft is deep at DB so I am confident that a DB will be available at that point.
I'm still not sure what the Browns want to do with their top pick.
rizzler
Footballguy
well, he keeps referring to #30 offense.. says no to RG3..so, it's wright or richardsonYou're right, I didn't and still don't.So who is it, exactly, that you're advocating they take?Not sure if you understood but I'll clarify.If I were to build a dominating defense I would start up front with pass rushers.1) There is no quality pass rusher to take at #4 this year.2) They were #2 in pass defense because they were #30 in rush defense.If I were to build a dominating defense that is where I would start, up front with pass rushers. This draft is deep with DBs. I think a quality one will be there for the taking at the 22nd pick but I am not sure that is what Heckertt will do there.
Right now I am not sure what happens with our top pick but our most glaring need is not with our top-five pass defense. Just my humble-O.
That is what I would do.
This draft doesn't change how I would build a dominating defense. I never said I would draft a pass rusher at #4 because no-one rates that pick in this draft AFIC. My statement was in response to the explanation behind the Claiborne selection.
If the Browns do wind up taking Claiborne I have no doubt he would be a great DB but the incremental gains would improve the overall defense in which way? By drafting a DB would it boost the run defense?
And do you think that the 30th worst scoring team had any effect on opposing teams running the ball on the Browns?
If they only require a small lead they can attain it by running the ball while at the same time they manage the field by stacking the box and forcing the Browns to pass assuring a TOP lead to help wear down the defense.
So the rush defense argument works better against drafting a defensive back especially since you point out the rush defense was spotty.
The issue is right defensive end and that is where most NFL teams have their best pass rusher. If one doesn't rate the fourth pick the team won't force it. I think they will weigh DEs with the 22nd pick, their may be one or two interesting prospects at that point in the draft but this draft is deep at DB so I am confident that a DB will be available at that point.
I'm still not sure what the Browns want to do with their top pick.
Thanks for the email Andy. Given how things have fallen with the reboot and with Coples now off the board:
1.11 Seattle Seahawks - Luke Kuechly, LB, BC
Same argument as before - will have options at DT/WR next round. Strong candidate to trade down with someone who see a player they need here (Martin/Reiff?) but no trades makes this the pick.
1.11 Seattle Seahawks - Luke Kuechly, LB, BC
Same argument as before - will have options at DT/WR next round. Strong candidate to trade down with someone who see a player they need here (Martin/Reiff?) but no trades makes this the pick.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
I'm pretty clear about what I WOULD DO IF I WERE BUILDING A DOMINATING DEFENSE.I WOULD GET PASS RUSHERS.
Does that mean if I hold the fourth pick and my team has a glaring need at, QB, WR, ORT, RB, DE, CB, FS, OLB, that I am painted into a corner and have to take a pass rusher because I said I would build a dominating defense with pass rushers? No. How I would build a dominating defense doesn't dictate the talent available to me in the draft, nor does it mean I put on blinders to other glaring needs on the team.
Who would I take with the Browns top pick in this draft? I honestly haven't done the right amount of research yet. Their isn't a ticking time bomb ready to go off, their is plenty of time for me to check each prospect out.
I do love RG III but he honestly is not a good fit for a WCO. I think he would take longer to get up to speed than some believe for a WCO team so I think both the Cleveland and Miami draft boards rate him a tic lower. He probably is up there on the Browns board below Luck and Kahlil.
Yeah Kahalil.
If he fell to the Browns they would take him in a heartbeat and stack that line for the next decade but he won't be there so if no trades happen the choice would be between RG III and Blackmon if he's there.
Any team picking in the top-five of this draft holds a golden ticket. Tom Heckertt knows he is going to get a blue-chip prospect with his top-four pick.
Cleveland Browns general manager Tom Heckert said, “It’s gonna be tough to screw that one up, I think.”
I don't know what they plan on doing and right now I haven't done enough research on these guys. I need to see a lot more before I spy something that stands out about each of the top prospects but I know what I would do if I wanted to build a dominating defense. I don't have to reserch how I would build a dominating D, TERRORIZE THE QUARTERBACK with a relentless pass rush.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Better consider the Chiefs.....that's the pick we just can't seem to make happen in this mock.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I'm pretty clear about what I WOULD DO IF I WERE BUILDING A DOMINATING DEFENSE.I WOULD GET PASS RUSHERS.
Does that mean if I hold the fourth pick and my team has a glaring need at, QB, WR, ORT, RB, DE, CB, FS, OLB, that I am painted into a corner and have to take a pass rusher because I said I would build a dominating defense with pass rushers? No. How I would build a dominating defense doesn't dictate the talent available to me in the draft, nor does it mean I put on blinders to other glaring needs on the team.
Who would I take with the Browns top pick in this draft? I honestly haven't done the right amount of research yet. Their isn't a ticking time bomb ready to go off, their is plenty of time for me to check each prospect out.
I do love RG III but he honestly is not a good fit for a WCO. I think he would take longer to get up to speed than some believe for a WCO team so I think both the Cleveland and Miami draft boards rate him a tic lower. He probably is up there on the Browns board below Luck and Kahlil.
Yeah Kahalil.
If he fell to the Browns they would take him in a heartbeat and stack that line for the next decade but he won't be there so if no trades happen the choice would be between RG III and Blackmon if he's there.
Any team picking in the top-five of this draft holds a golden ticket. Tom Heckertt knows he is going to get a blue-chip prospect with his top-four pick.
Cleveland Browns general manager Tom Heckert said, “It’s gonna be tough to screw that one up, I think.”
I don't know what they plan on doing and right now I haven't done enough research on these guys. I need to see a lot more before I spy something that stands out about each of the top prospects but I know what I would do if I wanted to build a dominating defense. I don't have to reserch how I would build a dominating D, TERRORIZE THE QUARTERBACK with a relentless pass rush.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I think KC would take Reily Reiff.
yellowdog
Footballguy
I second.
eric rymer
Footballguy
most mocks I've seen have them taking OT but Rieff was already gone. seems like a solid pick.
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