Shark Pool Mock Draft 2011 - 4 Rounds (1 Viewer)

[adrenaline]

You must not be looking in the right places, I've been seeing him ranked around the 4th best WR.

Link?

ESPN Insider

**********************Production 2 2008: (8/0) 14 catches, 186 yards (13.3 avg.), 1 TD. 2009: (12/10) 77 catches, 962 yards (12.5), 5 TDs. 14 carries, 127 yards (9.1), 1 TD. 2010: (11/11) 63 catches, 706 yards (11.2), 7 TDs; 28 carries, 163 yards (5.8), 1 TD.

Height-Weight-Speed 2 Possesses above-average measurables along with good top-end speed for his size.

Durability No durability trait available.

Intangibles 1 Quiet, humble and respectful teammate. Overcame a tough upbringing, Dad has been in and out of jail and brother is currently in jail. He was the first person to attend college from his family and has matured throughout his career.

1 = Exceptional2 = Above average3 = Average4 = Below average5 = Marginal

Wide Receiver Specific Traits

Separation Skills 2 Needs some tweaking in a few areas but overall very polished in this area. Savvy within his stem, does a great job of setting up defenders with tempo and head and shoulder fakes. Fluid athlete for size and does a nice getting in and out of breaks. Can uncover against zone coverage and shows the awareness to set up defenders to create more area within the soft spots. Wades through traffic well. Refined with double moves and does a nice job of selling initial fake.

Ball Skills 1 Appears to have big, natural and strong hands that swallow the ball. Consistently catches the ball away from frame. Has the body control to open up and make catch outside of strike zone. Tracks the deep ball well and doesn't extend arms until last second. Could time leaps a bit better in jump ball situations.

Big play ability 2 Possesses deceiving top-end speed and flashes ability to track the ball vertically. Consistently maximizes yards after the catch. Displays a quick initial burst and is a no non-sense runner that trusts his speed and immediately gets vertical. Does not have elite elusiveness but can make defender miss in space also shows ability to ruin defenders angles if provided a seam.

Competitiveness/ Toughness 2 Shows no fear working the middle of the field. Extremely aggressive attacking the ball in the air. Shows the focus to secure the ball in traffic while absorbing a hit. Gives good effort as a run blocker but could use some refining with technique.

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It's true that they have him ranked as the #4 WR.

But it also lists his Speed as "good top end speed for his size." I think think this is an incorrect assessment.

I don't know who does these rankings adrenaline... and I dunno how much you should be relying on them bro.

Anyone can google a free site & take their word for it I guess.

I guess I know what you're getting at, but some sites that are free are more reputable than sites that you pay for.I guess scouts inc does the scouting here... he may be a decent 2nd tier WR but he's definitely no consensus WR # 4

But drafting is about talent evaluation, and if you think he's a good fit for your team, then you go with it.

Just don't try and make the case that just because you pay for a Disney product that their content is clearly superior.

Pretty sure if you look at where this started it was google masters claiming their content was superior. No harm intended just defending my pick.

None taken man, and you have a right to. I just think you believe in espn.com more than a lot of others around here, so you're not going to get a ton of cred if you throw that name around.

I know this, this is the 1st year I've used ESPN & I must say I'm very satisfied with the content. Just curious if some other place has proven better content or if people just rather trash than pay?

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

I like a lot of ESPN content too. Any veteran draftniks care to share their favorite rankings sites?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I like a lot of ESPN content too. Any veteran draftniks care to share their favorite rankings sites?

Draftcountdown is okay.I prefer NFLDraftScout.

 

[Cipherchris]

Cushing and Ryans will both play inside. Sheard will play outside, Bowers will likly play the line but could play outside as well.

Bowers as a DE in the 3-4?

Like we discussed all the way back when the pick was made, Bowers is a misfit in the 3-4. He needs to be a 4-3 DE not a 3-4 DE or OLB.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

I like a lot of ESPN content too. Any veteran draftniks care to share their favorite rankings sites?

Draftcountdown is okay.I prefer NFLDraftScout.

What do you think of PFW and Walterfootball.com?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I like a lot of ESPN content too. Any veteran draftniks care to share their favorite rankings sites?

Draftcountdown is okay.I prefer NFLDraftScout.

What do you think of PFW and Walterfootball.com?

I forget to read PFW, but they're okay.Walterfootball seems like a guy like me, just reading stuff and guessing.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

Walterfootball seems like a guy like me, just reading stuff and guessing.

Hm.I can relate.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

So. Comments on my Paea pick?

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

So. Comments on my Paea pick?

Their vaunted run D hasn't been so vaunted lately, I definitely think this is a direction they could go. Were you considering Ras-I also?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

So. Comments on my Paea pick?

Their vaunted run D hasn't been so vaunted lately, I definitely think this is a direction they could go. Were you considering Ras-I also?

Yes I was. The injury bug scared me away. We already have a bunch of guys that can't stay healthy.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

So. Comments on my Paea pick?

Their vaunted run D hasn't been so vaunted lately, I definitely think this is a direction they could go. Were you considering Ras-I also?

Yes I was. The injury bug scared me away. We already have a bunch of guys that can't stay healthy.

Yeah certainly the kind of pick that gets you a solid draft grade at the end of the day. The vikes aren't that far away from contending with the pack in that division, if locker develops quickly watch out. The defense needs a few patch ups, and some secondary help, but like i said, they're a nice team already.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

someone pm eakfootball?

 

[Grimace59]

So. Comments on my Paea pick?

Their vaunted run D hasn't been so vaunted lately, I definitely think this is a direction they could go. Were you considering Ras-I also?

I can easily see this pick happening if he's there in the 2nd and the Vikes take a QB at 12. If they don't go QB at 12, they will most likely go QB here, but I like the pick as a football fan, but not as a Bears fan.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

So. Comments on my Paea pick?

Their vaunted run D hasn't been so vaunted lately, I definitely think this is a direction they could go. Were you considering Ras-I also?

I can easily see this pick happening if he's there in the 2nd and the Vikes take a QB at 12. If they don't go QB at 12, they will most likely go QB here, but I like the pick as a football fan, but not as a Bears fan.

Solid 2nd round pick, I think he's a safe pick and will be an every down player.

 

[Harjiran]

It would be nice to see an updated OP or a refreshed list of all the picks in one place, so people whose picks are coming up don't have to hunt through all the individual posts.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

It would be nice to see an updated OP or a refreshed list of all the picks in one place, so people whose picks are coming up don't have to hunt through all the individual posts.

Bracie has been johnny on the spot with that, and cheat sheets as well.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Round 1

1. Carolina Panthers (Donsmith753) - A.J. Green (WR, Georgia)

2. Denver Broncos (BusMan) - Marcell Dareus (DT, Alabama)

3. Buffalo Bills (Mr. Peterson)
 - Cam Newton (QB, Auburn)

4. Cincinnati Bengals (comet909) - Patrick Peterson (CB, LSU)

5. Arizona Cardinals (Andy Dufresne) - Von Miller (LB, Texas A&M)

*6. Tennessee Titans (shader) - Blaine Gabbert (QB, Missouri) (Titans give up 3.13)

7. San Francisco 49ers (chinawildman) - Julio Jones (WR, Alabama)


*8. Cleveland Browns (gandalas) - Nick Fairley (DT, Auburn) (Cleveland acquires 3.13)

9. Dallas Cowboys (asn4play) - Tyron Smith (OT, USC)

10. Washington Redskins (matttyl) - Robert Quinn (DE, North Carolina)

11. Houston Texans (Yellow Line is Unoffcial) - Da'Quan Bowers (DE, Clemson)

12. Minnesota Vikings (Andy Dufresne) - Jake Locker (QB, Washington)

13. Detroit Lions (eakfootball)
 - Prince Amukamara (CB, Nebraska)

14. St. Louis Rams (Blackjack)
 - Cameron Jordan (DE, California)

15. Miami Dolphins (Dolfan) - Mike Pouncey (OL, Florida)

16. Jacksonville Jaguars (CompetitiveEdgeFootball)
 - Aldon Smith (DE, Missouri)

17. New England Patriots (Tackling Dummies) - J. J. Watt (DE, Wisconsin)

18. San Diego Chargers ( KeeferMan) Anthony Castanzo OT Boston College

19. New York Giants (J Andersson) Gabe Carimi OT, Wisconsin

20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers(Kirby) Ryan Kerrigan (DE, Purdue)

21. Kansas City Chiefs )Kcions) - Phil Taylor (NT, Baylor)

22. Indianapolis Colts (Cipherchris) - Corey Liuget (DT, Illinois)

23. Philadelphia Eagles (JetMaxx) - Nate Solder (OT, Colorado)

24. New Orleans Saints (adrenaline )
 - Muhammad Wilkerson (DL, Temple)

25. Seattle Seahawks (bleachercreacher) - Jimmy Smith (CB, Colorado)


26. Baltimore Ravens (gerome ) - Derrick Sherrod (OT, Mississippi State)


27. Atlanta Falcons (No Way Jose) Mark Ingram (RB, Alabama)

28. New England Patriots (Tackling Dummies) Benjamin Ijalana , OT, Villanova

29. Chicago Bears (Grimace59) Akeem Ayers LB UCLA

*30. New York Jets (Kruppe) The Jets accepted a trade from the San Diego Chargers.

Picks #50 and #61 go to the Jets and the Chargers use pick 30 to select Adrian Clayborn , DE Iowa

31. Pittsburgh Steelers (BigSteelThrill) CB Brandon Harris Miami

32. Green Bay Packers (fatkid) Justin Houston - OLB Georgia

Round 2

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1. New England Patriots (Tackling Dummies)

J. J. Watt (DE, Wisconsin), Benjamin Ijalana , OT, Villanova

Mikel Leshoure RB, Illinois

2. Buffalo Bills (Mr. Peterson)

Cam Newton (QB, Auburn)

Cameron Heyward - DE - Ohio State

3. Cincinnati Bengals (comet909)

Patrick Peterson (CB, LSU)

Colin Kaepernick , QB Nevada,

4. Denver Broncos (BusMan)

Marcell Dareus (DT, Alabama)

Kyle Rudolph - TE - Notre Dame

5. Cleveland Browns (gandalas)

-Nick Fairley (DT, Auburn)

Jonathan Baldwin WR Pittsburgh

6. Arizona Cardinals (Andy Dufresne)

Von Miller (LB, Texas A&M)

Marcus Cannon OG/OT - TCU

7. Tennessee Titans (shader)

Blaine Gabbert (QB, Missouri)

Aaron Williams CB Texas

8. Dallas Cowboys (asn4play)

Tyron Smith (OT, USC)

Rahim Moore FS UCLA

*9. New Orleans Saints (adrenaline )

Muhammad Wilkerson (DL, Temple)

Tandon Doss WR Indiana

10. Houston Texans (Yellow Line is Unoffcial)

Da'Quan Bowers (DE, Clemson)

Jabaal Sheard DE/OLB Pittsburgh

11. Minnesota Vikings (Andy Dufresne)

Jake Locker (QB, Washington)

Stephen Paea DT Oregon St.

UP NOW!

12, Detroit Lions (eakfootball)

Prince Amukamara (CB, Nebraska)

*13. Pittsburgh Steelers (BigSteelThrill)

14. Denver Broncos (BusMan)

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Use these links for cheat sheets of how some of the major draft sites view the remaining players.

PFW

NFP National Football League Post

Draft Countdown rankings

The guy sitkcing out like a sore thumb and who is still available is OL Danny Watkins and the next guy who should have gone in the first round is D-Lineman Marvin Austin.

The QBs are and WRs should go and at least one more RB should go soon as well.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

Use these links for cheat sheets of how some of the major draft sites view the remaining players.

PFW

NFP National Football League Post

Draft Countdown rankings

The guy sitkcing out like a sore thumb and who is still available is OL Danny Watkins and the next guy who should have gone in the first round is D-Lineman Marvin Austin.

The QBs are and WRs should go and at least one more RB should go soon as well.

awesome job man. I've PMd Eakfootball so hopefully he sees it soon.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

The guy sitkcing out like a sore thumb and who is still available is OL Danny Watkins and the next guy who should have gone in the first round is D-Lineman Marvin Austin.The QBs are and WRs should go and at least one more RB should go soon as well.

I considered Watkins for both the Cardinals and the Vikings picks.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

After being fortunate enough to get Prince in the 1st, I think the Lions address their LB needs here and grab Bruce Carter. I've seen him go as low as mid-3rd in some mocks but all indications are that the ACL will be fine and he'll be healthy for his rookie season. Without the injury he would've been a 1st round pick for sure and if he can get back to that level of play then the Lions defense could improve a lot with these first two picks.

Another option is Ryan Williams since they're looking for another a back to pair with Jahvid. Also, I'm not too sure which OL options are left on the board though and whether or not should go that route instead...

 

[Andy Dufresne]

All joking aside, the Lions could use a WR and there are some good ones available at this time.

 

[Harjiran]

Thanks Bracie.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

They could even take Watkins... they need all the help they can get keeping Stafford healthy and upright.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Maybe Martez Wilson?

 

[Grimace59]

After being fortunate enough to get Prince in the 1st, I think the Lions address their LB needs here and grab Bruce Carter. I've seen him go as low as mid-3rd in some mocks but all indications are that the ACL will be fine and he'll be healthy for his rookie season. Without the injury he would've been a 1st round pick for sure and if he can get back to that level of play then the Lions defense could improve a lot with these first two picks.Another option is Ryan Williams since they're looking for another a back to pair with Jahvid. Also, I'm not too sure which OL options are left on the board though and whether or not should go that route instead...

I can see the Lions grabbing Thomas from KState in the 3rd at RB, he would be great compliment to Best for the Lions.

 

[JetMaxx]

Watkins is somewhat raw and 27 yrs old? He seems like a great prospect but that has to hurt his value in the eyes of pro scouts.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Watkins is somewhat raw and 27 yrs old? He seems like a great prospect but that has to hurt his value in the eyes of pro scouts.

Some might view the age as a plus in that they'd be dealing with a more mature player and possibly not have as many personality issues.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

Watkins is somewhat raw and 27 yrs old? He seems like a great prospect but that has to hurt his value in the eyes of pro scouts.

Some might view the age as a plus in that they'd be dealing with a more mature player and possibly not have as many personality issues.

True story. Ton of diva O-Linemen dividing locker rooms these days.;D

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Watkins is somewhat raw and 27 yrs old? He seems like a great prospect but that has to hurt his value in the eyes of pro scouts.

Some might view the age as a plus in that they'd be dealing with a more mature player and possibly not have as many personality issues.

True story. Ton of diva O-Linemen dividing locker rooms these days.;D

Okay how about "irresponsibility" issues.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

Watkins is somewhat raw and 27 yrs old? He seems like a great prospect but that has to hurt his value in the eyes of pro scouts.

Some might view the age as a plus in that they'd be dealing with a more mature player and possibly not have as many personality issues.

True story. Ton of diva O-Linemen dividing locker rooms these days.;D

Okay how about "irresponsibility" issues.

*cough Barret Robbins cough*

 

[Ridgelake]

The guy sitkcing out like a sore thumb and who is still available is OL Danny Watkins and the next guy who should have gone in the first round is D-Lineman Marvin Austin.The QBs are and WRs should go and at least one more RB should go soon as well.

I considered Watkins for both the Cardinals and the Vikings picks.

I'd have been happy to see him with a Star on his helmet with pick 40. Dallas needs to replace Bigg Davis who lost the ability to move last year. And the other guard, Kosier, is a FA and 33 years old to boot. Watkins is considered by many the top "plug and play" guard in this draft. And he's potentially got the ability to play tackle.

 

[Donnybrook]

49ers have accepted a trade offer from the Steelers to move down.

Steelers receive 2.13

49ers receive 2.31, 3.31, and Pittsburgh's 3rd rounder in 2012

No wonder teams choose to trade on the clock. I have to ask if you (san fran) would have traded down wih Ponder still on the board.

 

[Blackjacks]

49ers have accepted a trade offer from the Steelers to move down.

Steelers receive 2.13

49ers receive 2.31, 3.31, and Pittsburgh's 3rd rounder in 2012

No wonder teams choose to trade on the clock. I have to ask if you (san fran) would have traded down wih Ponder still on the board.

I agree unless they are really sold on Alex Smith or want ot be really bad this year and get Luck next year.

 

[Harjiran]

49ers have accepted a trade offer from the Steelers to move down.

Steelers receive 2.13

49ers receive 2.31, 3.31, and Pittsburgh's 3rd rounder in 2012

No wonder teams choose to trade on the clock. I have to ask if you (san fran) would have traded down wih Ponder still on the board.

Ponder is still on the board, no?

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

49ers have accepted a trade offer from the Steelers to move down.

Steelers receive 2.13

49ers receive 2.31, 3.31, and Pittsburgh's 3rd rounder in 2012

No wonder teams choose to trade on the clock. I have to ask if you (san fran) would have traded down wih Ponder still on the board.

Ponder is still on the board, no?

Ponder is still on the board.

 

[chinawildman]

49ers have accepted a trade offer from the Steelers to move down.

Steelers receive 2.13

49ers receive 2.31, 3.31, and Pittsburgh's 3rd rounder in 2012

No wonder teams choose to trade on the clock. I have to ask if you (san fran) would have traded down wih Ponder still on the board.

Yea Ponder's still there, but then so are alot of other guys. Kaepernick going so early was a surprise, I thought for sure I had a shot at him at 2.13. Would've like a higher pick than 2.31, but I get to make one more pick in this mock than before so meh:

 

[eakfootball]

2.12 Lions select Randall Cobb-WR-Kentucky

 

[BigSteelThrill]

2.12 Lions select Randall Cobb-WR-Kentucky

 

[eakfootball]

After being fortunate enough to get Prince in the 1st, I think the Lions address their LB needs here and grab Bruce Carter. I've seen him go as low as mid-3rd in some mocks but all indications are that the ACL will be fine and he'll be healthy for his rookie season. Without the injury he would've been a 1st round pick for sure and if he can get back to that level of play then the Lions defense could improve a lot with these first two picks.Another option is Ryan Williams since they're looking for another a back to pair with Jahvid. Also, I'm not too sure which OL options are left on the board though and whether or not should go that route instead...

I can see the Lions grabbing Thomas from KState in the 3rd at RB, he would be great compliment to Best for the Lions.

I consider Thomas the 13th best back in the draft so thats unlikely.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

2.12 Lions select Randall Cobb-WR-Kentucky

Great 2nd tier WR. And the Detroit offense becomes even more dangerous.

 

[eakfootball]

Maybe Martez Wilson?

Wilson would have been the pick if Cobb had been gone.

 

[Blackjacks]

Maybe Martez Wilson?

Wilson would have been the pick if Cobb had been gone.

Did u pm BigSteelThrill?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

With the 2.13 the Pttsburgh Steelers select Marcus Gilbert OT Florida.

[*]A true passblocking LT at the NFL level, exactly what both the Steelers pass offense and Big Ben need.

[*]Solid body of work at an elite level program that played versus the nations best competition.

[*]Should be ready to play and fighting for a starting job at the onset.

[*]However he is Not a mauler in the run game.

[*]Has a ton of upside. He even played a couple years with Maurkice.

[*]The Steelers already interviewed him at the combine and had one of their official visits with him.

[*]In Mayocks latests updates he has him solidly in the 2nd with a real possibilty that he is a late 1st round (20-32) selection.

[*]I almost took him with pick #31 - in fact I sent the pick to chinawildman as my selection if I wasnt around.

The Steelers are done in this draft.

Brandon Harris CB

Marcus Gilbert LT

 

[eakfootball]

The Texans select from Pittsburgh DE/OLB Jabaal Sheard

I don't get this pick. Sheard would be the 4th OLB after Williams, Bowers, and Barwi. I also don't get the texans switch to the 3-4 since Williams is better as a 4-3 end, Okoye is best as a 4-3 tackle, and Cushing is better at OLB then inside in a 3-4. Plus they don't have a nose tackle.

 

[eakfootball]

With the 2.13 the Pttsburgh Steelers select Marcus Gilbert OT Florida.

[*]A true passblocking LT at the NFL level, exactly what both the Steelers pass offense and Big Ben need.

[*]Solid body of work at an elite level program that played versus the nations best competition.

[*]Should be ready to play and fighting for a starting job at the onset.

[*]However he is Not a mauler in the run game.

[*]Has a ton of upside. He even played a couple years with Maurkice.

[*]The Steelers already interviewed him at the combine and had one of their official visits with him.

[*]In Mayocks latests updates he has him solidly in the 2nd with a real possibilty that he is a late 1st round (20-32) selection.

[*]I almost took him with pick #31 - in fact I sent the pick to chinawildman as my selection if I wasnt around.

The Steelers are done in this draft.

Brandon Harris CB

Marcus Gilbert LT

Gilbert has no chance to be a LT in the NFL. He is big and doesn't move well. A RT or G in the NFL. Still positions of need for the steelers, but not a LT.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

With the 2.13 the Pttsburgh Steelers select Marcus Gilbert OT Florida.

[*]A true passblocking LT at the NFL level, exactly what both the Steelers pass offense and Big Ben need.

[*]Solid body of work at an elite level program that played versus the nations best competition.

[*]Should be ready to play and fighting for a starting job at the onset.

[*]However he is Not a mauler in the run game.

[*]Has a ton of upside. He even played a couple years with Maurkice.

[*]The Steelers already interviewed him at the combine and had one of their official visits with him.

[*]In Mayocks latests updates he has him solidly in the 2nd with a real possibilty that he is a late 1st round (20-32) selection.

[*]I almost took him with pick #31 - in fact I sent the pick to chinawildman as my selection if I wasnt around.

The Steelers are done in this draft.

Brandon Harris CB

Marcus Gilbert LT

Gilbert has no chance to be a LT in the NFL. He is big and doesn't move well. A RT or G in the NFL. Still positions of need for the steelers, but not a LT.

Im going to fully disagree with you. He doesnt kick-slide like Water Jones, but few do.Compare the combine tapes of his movement vs say Carimi, he more more fluid, agile and mobile, while carrying more weight. Not as long though.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

2.12 Lions select Randall Cobb-WR-Kentucky

 

[Yellow Line is Unoffcial]

Cushing and Ryans will both play inside. Sheard will play outside, Bowers will likly play the line but could play outside as well.

Bowers as a DE in the 3-4?

Like we discussed all the way back when the pick was made, Bowers is a misfit in the 3-4. He needs to be a 4-3 DE not a 3-4 DE or OLB.

How many teams play just a 3-4? How many teams play only a 4-3? How many teams rotate DLs? How many teams play an ameba defense? How many teams zone blitz and drop DLs into coverage? To pigeon hole a player as on a 4-3 this or a 3-4 that is a mistake. To pass on a player of Bowers talent because he may not be a perfect fit into the system you are running today is a mistake. Two years ago Denver ran a 4-3 last year they ran a 3-4 this year they will run a 4-3 Things change drafting for a system is almost as bad as drafting strictly fo need.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

Cushing and Ryans will both play inside. Sheard will play outside, Bowers will likly play the line but could play outside as well.

Bowers as a DE in the 3-4?

Like we discussed all the way back when the pick was made, Bowers is a misfit in the 3-4. He needs to be a 4-3 DE not a 3-4 DE or OLB.

How many teams play just a 3-4? How many teams play only a 4-3? How many teams rotate DLs? How many teams play an ameba defense? How many teams zone blitz and drop DLs into coverage? To pigeon hole a player as on a 4-3 this or a 3-4 that is a mistake. To pass on a player of Bowers talent because he may not be a perfect fit into the system you are running today is a mistake. Two years ago Denver ran a 4-3 last year they ran a 3-4 this year they will run a 4-3 Things change drafting for a system is almost as bad as drafting strictly fo need.

In general....Teams pick one or the other as their base, and lots of the time optimize their personnel for that base. You're right, a lot of teams give different looks, but their base 3/4-4/3 unit is the most frequent package used.