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With pick 1.31 in the draft the Steelers select CB Brandon Harris Miami.
I posted a pick. Was taking in offers.DONT steal my pick.Hey Steel are you going to post your pick or should I just post what you PM'd earlier today?
Good pick was hoping Harris was going to slip to niners in the 2nd... though I hear Steelers traditionally don't choose corners in the first round.Depending on who's available, I may take you up on that trade offer.I posted a pick. Was taking in offers.DONT steal my pick.Hey Steel are you going to post your pick or should I just post what you PM'd earlier today?![]()
The Steelers are now willing to offer their 2nd + 3rd to move up in the 2nd.
Sent you a pm... /guido voiceDepending on who's available, I may take you up on that trade offer.
1.32With pick 1.32 in the draft the Packers Select - Justin Houston - OLB Georgia
I like the pick.Another fine pick. Good spot and solid need.With the first pick in the second round, the Patriots select
Mikel Leshoure, RB, Illinois
I know the track record of NE (not) selecting RBs, but Fred Taylor, Sammie Morris and Kevin Faulk are toast. BJGE and Woodhead carried the water at the end of the season and Leshoure slots into the RBBC at the top of the Patriots depth chart as long as his pass protection is good enough.
Confirmed.This trade involved some serious discussion on QB Dennis Dixon as well.49ers have accepted a trade offer from the Steelers to move down.
Steelers receive 2.13
49ers receive 2.31, 3.31, and Pittsburgh's 3rd rounder in 2012
< Trade talks are exciting.Is this going to hold up in a mock next year49ers have accepted a trade offer from the Steelers to move down.
Steelers receive 2.13
49ers receive 2.31, 3.31, and Pittsburgh's 3rd rounder in 2012

Either its attempt at a real mock, or it isn't. The 49ers will now enter next year draft with an extra pick and increased mobility.Is this going to hold up in a mock next year49ers have accepted a trade offer from the Steelers to move down.
Steelers receive 2.13
49ers receive 2.31, 3.31, and Pittsburgh's 3rd rounder in 2012![]()
The more the merrier hombre.Is this going to hold up in a mock next year49ers have accepted a trade offer from the Steelers to move down.
Steelers receive 2.13
49ers receive 2.31, 3.31, and Pittsburgh's 3rd rounder in 2012![]()
Oh, my bad. I thought you were talking to me and the former early 2nd pick specifically with your offer. I might be able to do something with my current late 2nd, though.'Donsmith753 said:I can see your point, when I posted about moving up I was thinking the last 3rd of the second round.'matttyl said:Why would the Skins move from an "early" 2nd round pick this year to an "early" 2nd round pick next year without getting something in return for skipping a year? Especially considering the holes we have and the fact that we don't currently have a 3rd or a 4th this year.As for the two 3rd this year, they're combined "value" is over 100 points away from the Skins #41 pick according to the "value chart" - doesn't make sense either.I was seeing if you'd give next year's 2nd and a 3rd this year.'Donsmith753 said:'matttyl said:Depending on who was there at the time, the 2012 2nd (it'll be early) or the two thirds from this year.The Redskins have already traded out of their 2nd round pick, but what would you have given up to move to #41? Obviously the Skins wouldn't have traded out of that pick until it was their turn, and not until hearing from at least a few teams.'Donsmith753 said:Carolina is interested in trading up into the second round. 2012 2nd and two 2011 3rds are available.
Hint: These players will not actually be on these teams next year either. HTH.Is this going to hold up in a mock next year49ers have accepted a trade offer from the Steelers to move down.
Steelers receive 2.13
49ers receive 2.31, 3.31, and Pittsburgh's 3rd rounder in 2012![]()
I think Dallas would hope he dropped to 40. I guess he's a long way away from there....'Tackling Dummies said:1.28, The New England Patriots select Benjamin Ijalana, OT, Villanova
With the uncertainty of Mankins deal and Neal retiring, a need pick here.
You don't know thatHint: These players will not actually be on these teams next year either. HTH.Is this going to hold up in a mock next year49ers have accepted a trade offer from the Steelers to move down.
Steelers receive 2.13
49ers receive 2.31, 3.31, and Pittsburgh's 3rd rounder in 2012![]()

Man I would have gave the 9ers more of the Saints next years picks than that for the 2.13Either its attempt at a real mock, or it isn't. The 49ers will now enter next year draft with an extra pick and increased mobility.Is this going to hold up in a mock next year49ers have accepted a trade offer from the Steelers to move down.
Steelers receive 2.13
49ers receive 2.31, 3.31, and Pittsburgh's 3rd rounder in 2012![]()
Ok I can't trade Kolb but we can trade future picks?The more the merrier hombre.Is this going to hold up in a mock next year49ers have accepted a trade offer from the Steelers to move down.
Steelers receive 2.13
49ers receive 2.31, 3.31, and Pittsburgh's 3rd rounder in 2012![]()

As a pats fan, I would be elated if the pats drafted the way you have. Well done.'Tackling Dummies said:With the first pick in the second round, the Patriots select
Mikel Leshoure, RB, Illinois
I know the track record of NE (not) selecting RBs, but Fred Taylor, Sammie Morris and Kevin Faulk are toast. BJGE and Woodhead carried the water at the end of the season and Leshoure slots into the RBBC at the top of the Patriots depth chart as long as his pass protection is good enough.
I can't get online on Sunday >_<'CompetitiveEdgeFootball said:I say we give 1.5 hours per pick... make that the clock.Lets give them a defensive piece. That's the way they're bound to go.Houston, Ayers, Rahim Moore are all fine with me.
I think expanding weekend hours (or skipping them) is pretty normal around here.I can't get online on Sunday >_<'CompetitiveEdgeFootball said:I say we give 1.5 hours per pick... make that the clock.Lets give them a defensive piece. That's the way they're bound to go.Houston, Ayers, Rahim Moore are all fine with me.
Who said you can't trade Kolb?Ok I can't trade Kolb but we can trade future picks?The more the merrier hombre.Is this going to hold up in a mock next year49ers have accepted a trade offer from the Steelers to move down.
Steelers receive 2.13
49ers receive 2.31, 3.31, and Pittsburgh's 3rd rounder in 2012![]()
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I'll give you my 2nd round pick in 2012 for him.Clearly not the Mock Draft commish...Kolb anyone? A 2,3,2 can get it done at this point.

I'll give you my 2nd round pick in 2012 for him.Clearly not the Mock Draft commish...Kolb anyone? A 2,3,2 can get it done at this point.![]()

Um, well this is how the NFL draft is going to be, so this makes sense.Ok I can't trade Kolb but we can trade future picks?The more the merrier hombre.Is this going to hold up in a mock next year49ers have accepted a trade offer from the Steelers to move down.
Steelers receive 2.13
49ers receive 2.31, 3.31, and Pittsburgh's 3rd rounder in 2012![]()
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Who is the OC in Denver? John Fox's offenses traditionally haven't featured the TE position much.With the 36th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft the Denver Broncos select:
Kyle Rudolph - TE - Notre Dame
I hoped for Rudolph all along but was a touch scared the scarcity at the TE position would have driven someone to take him late in the first.
Denver's returning leader at the TE position is Richard Quinn. Josh McDaniels infamously traded up into the second round of the 2009 draft to pick this one-trick (blocking) pony, exhibiting his complete cluelessness in the process. In 2010, Quinn had one catch for nine yards. In Quinn's NFL career, he has one catch for nine yards. Its unclear how many successful blocks he has made.
PMing gandalas.
Mike McCoy. He was an offensive asst under fox in car before leaving for Den in 08. He's the den OC now, but if he will run foxs old system or something more updated remains to be seen. Car through it's run of playoff contention never had a TE this athletic... So was it never featured because it's not part of Fox's system, or because he just never came upon the personnell?Who is the OC in Denver? John Fox's offenses traditionally haven't featured the TE position much.With the 36th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft the Denver Broncos select:
Kyle Rudolph - TE - Notre Dame
I hoped for Rudolph all along but was a touch scared the scarcity at the TE position would have driven someone to take him late in the first.
Denver's returning leader at the TE position is Richard Quinn. Josh McDaniels infamously traded up into the second round of the 2009 draft to pick this one-trick (blocking) pony, exhibiting his complete cluelessness in the process. In 2010, Quinn had one catch for nine yards. In Quinn's NFL career, he has one catch for nine yards. Its unclear how many successful blocks he has made.
PMing gandalas.
Interested, but haven't we established here that player trades aren't allowed (mimicking the real-life draft at this point)?Andy, any interest in Kolb for AZ's 2 & 3? I know you personally aren't high on him but AZ is in the real world and would likely do this trade in a heartbeat.
Fox is a head coach with a background on the defensive side of the ball. That said, its clear Fox prefers his offense balanced. McCoy is likely to stick with the offense McDaniels installed, unless they make some accommodations for Tebow or Fox tells him to achieve a higher run/pass ratio. I think it makes a lot of sense to have a good pass-catching TE if Tebow is going to be the quarterback. He'll need a safety valve when he's doing his scramble thing.The Broncos have needs all over the team, especially on defense, so I could have easily gone with that side of the ball. But I wanted Rudolph for an extra dimension on offense.Mike McCoy. He was an offensive asst under fox in car before leaving for Den in 08. He's the den OC now, but if he will run foxs old system or something more updated remains to be seen. Car through it's run of playoff contention never had a TE this athletic... So was it never featured because it's not part of Fox's system, or because he just never came upon the personnell?Who is the OC in Denver? John Fox's offenses traditionally haven't featured the TE position much.With the 36th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft the Denver Broncos select:
Kyle Rudolph - TE - Notre Dame
I hoped for Rudolph all along but was a touch scared the scarcity at the TE position would have driven someone to take him late in the first.
Denver's returning leader at the TE position is Richard Quinn. Josh McDaniels infamously traded up into the second round of the 2009 draft to pick this one-trick (blocking) pony, exhibiting his complete cluelessness in the process. In 2010, Quinn had one catch for nine yards. In Quinn's NFL career, he has one catch for nine yards. Its unclear how many successful blocks he has made.
PMing gandalas.
Fox has been a defensive coach his entire career. I don't really think he has an offensive system.Mike McCoy. He was an offensive asst under fox in car before leaving for Den in 08. He's the den OC now, but if he will run foxs old system or something more updated remains to be seen. Car through it's run of playoff contention never had a TE this athletic... So was it never featured because it's not part of Fox's system, or because he just never came upon the personnell?Who is the OC in Denver? John Fox's offenses traditionally haven't featured the TE position much.With the 36th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft the Denver Broncos select:
Kyle Rudolph - TE - Notre Dame
I hoped for Rudolph all along but was a touch scared the scarcity at the TE position would have driven someone to take him late in the first.
Denver's returning leader at the TE position is Richard Quinn. Josh McDaniels infamously traded up into the second round of the 2009 draft to pick this one-trick (blocking) pony, exhibiting his complete cluelessness in the process. In 2010, Quinn had one catch for nine yards. In Quinn's NFL career, he has one catch for nine yards. Its unclear how many successful blocks he has made.
PMing gandalas.
My best guess- they return to a bit more balance, since mcd's run/pass ratio was just silly unbalanced. Don't mean going totally conservative and run first, but closer to 50-50Fox is a head coach with a background on the defensive side of the ball. That said, its clear Fox prefers his offense balanced. McCoy is likely to stick with the offense McDaniels installed, unless they make some accommodations for Tebow or Fox tells him to achieve a higher run/pass ratio. I think it makes a lot of sense to have a good pass-catching TE if Tebow is going to be the quarterback. He'll need a safety valve when he's doing his scramble thing.The Broncos have needs all over the team, especially on defense, so I could have easily gone with that side of the ball. But I wanted Rudolph for an extra dimension on offense.Mike McCoy. He was an offensive asst under fox in car before leaving for Den in 08. He's the den OC now, but if he will run foxs old system or something more updated remains to be seen. Car through it's run of playoff contention never had a TE this athletic... So was it never featured because it's not part of Fox's system, or because he just never came upon the personnell?Who is the OC in Denver? John Fox's offenses traditionally haven't featured the TE position much.With the 36th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft the Denver Broncos select:
Kyle Rudolph - TE - Notre Dame
I hoped for Rudolph all along but was a touch scared the scarcity at the TE position would have driven someone to take him late in the first.
Denver's returning leader at the TE position is Richard Quinn. Josh McDaniels infamously traded up into the second round of the 2009 draft to pick this one-trick (blocking) pony, exhibiting his complete cluelessness in the process. In 2010, Quinn had one catch for nine yards. In Quinn's NFL career, he has one catch for nine yards. Its unclear how many successful blocks he has made.
PMing gandalas.
Thanks, but trying to mimic Belichick is a losing prop. I know it's been said before, but having the three picks between 1.17 and 2.1 is living right, but he'll most likely move at least once there. Not to be too rigid, but my though process was best available DE at 17, interior O-line at 28 and see what's on the board at 2.1. The 2.1 probably has the most value after the first day ends and a particular player is still there for an anxious team.As a pats fan, I would be elated if the pats drafted the way you have. Well done.'Tackling Dummies said:With the first pick in the second round, the Patriots select
Mikel Leshoure, RB, Illinois
I know the track record of NE (not) selecting RBs, but Fred Taylor, Sammie Morris and Kevin Faulk are toast. BJGE and Woodhead carried the water at the end of the season and Leshoure slots into the RBBC at the top of the Patriots depth chart as long as his pass protection is good enough.
I considered Torry Smith, but I LOVE the fact that Baldwin has been working with Fitzgerald and Darelle Revis the past couple of weeks. We all know that WRs benefit greatly from attending Fitz's camp every year, so the fact that he is getting this personal attention from the NFLs best CB and WR (arguably) before he is even drafted speaks volumes to me.I just love his size and the connection to Fitz above all.I don't think Baldwin would be the 3rd WR off the board.
I considered Torry Smith, but I LOVE the fact that Baldwin has been working with Fitzgerald and Darelle Revis the past couple of weeks. We all know that WRs benefit greatly from attending Fitz's camp every year, so the fact that he is getting this personal attention from the NFLs best CB and WR (arguably) before he is even drafted speaks volumes to me.I just love his size and the connection to Fitz above all.I don't think Baldwin would be the 3rd WR off the board.
exactly my thought. Having passed up on Julio, Baldwin is the next best thing IMHO.LOVE IT! but is he a top 2nd round pick?Pick #38 (2.06) - Marcus Cannon, OG/OT - TCU
I'm going on the assumption that they're going to sign a veteran QB. Their entire interior offensive line are free agents. Cannon can play either guard or tackle and is the road grader type that I think Whiz is looking for.
He is to a team like the Cardinals.LOVE IT! but is he a top 2nd round pick?Pick #38 (2.06) - Marcus Cannon, OG/OT - TCU
I'm going on the assumption that they're going to sign a veteran QB. Their entire interior offensive line are free agents. Cannon can play either guard or tackle and is the road grader type that I think Whiz is looking for.