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Shark Pool Mock Draft 2011 - 4 Rounds (1 Viewer)

Hey Steel are you going to post your pick or should I just post what you PM'd earlier today?
I posted a pick. Was taking in offers.DONT steal my pick. ;)

The Steelers are now willing to offer their 2nd + 3rd to move up in the 2nd.
Good pick was hoping Harris was going to slip to niners in the 2nd... though I hear Steelers traditionally don't choose corners in the first round.Depending on who's available, I may take you up on that trade offer.

 
With pick 1.31 in the draft the Packers Select - Justin Houston - OLB Georgia

Exceptional Size/speed combination. Good productivity in the SEC, posting 10 sacks in 2010 against SEC competition. Durable, leader on the team, active in the community.

I think the Pack has bigger needs elsewhere, but this is the way the draft fell. I don't see an OT or Guard that warrents a pick at this point.

I considered Cameron Heyword, but he just didn't make enough plays throughout his career. I feel like he is just a guy, and we can find guys to help at DE in a 3-4 later.

Stephen Paea was considered, I like the two time Pac 10 DL of the year player. But he is coming off Maniscus surgury, and I am not certain he is mobile enough to play DE.

Marvin Austin won't make Thompson's cut because he bases his evaluation on tape, and Austin doesn't have enough of it.

 
With pick 1.32 in the draft the Packers Select - Justin Houston - OLB Georgia
1.32 ;) I like the pick.

Not sure how the big guy will do in coverage in the 3-4, he could be exploited some in that regards, but should be a dandy LOLB in pass rush -- kind of like a Willie McGinest type that can handle facing up on a OT from time to time.

 
With the first pick in the second round, the Patriots select

Mikel Leshoure, RB, Illinois

I know the track record of NE (not) selecting RBs, but Fred Taylor, Sammie Morris and Kevin Faulk are toast. BJGE and Woodhead carried the water at the end of the season and Leshoure slots into the RBBC at the top of the Patriots depth chart as long as his pass protection is good enough.

 
With the first pick in the second round, the Patriots select

Mikel Leshoure, RB, Illinois

I know the track record of NE (not) selecting RBs, but Fred Taylor, Sammie Morris and Kevin Faulk are toast. BJGE and Woodhead carried the water at the end of the season and Leshoure slots into the RBBC at the top of the Patriots depth chart as long as his pass protection is good enough.
Another fine pick. Good spot and solid need.
 
Hmmm. Two guys I was really hoping would fall to the Bills are both here and I just have to decide who to go with. I'll have a decision in a second.

 
With the 34th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft the Buffalo Bills select:

Cameron Heyward - DE - Ohio State

The Bills desperately need help on D and honestly could go any position and upgrade the defense. I was between Heyward and Brooks Reed. I think Reed would work well in our 3-4 D and we do need a pass rush OLB but Heyward is too good to pass up. I don't think Heyward is even going to be available at this spot but I don't see the Bills passing him up if he is. He's a first round talent and would be a great fit and fill a big hole as a 3-4 DE. He's 2nd only to Watt as the best 5-technique out there but he's not far behind in my opinion. I also think Heyward is versatile enough to play other positions on the line and that will be important seeing that the Bills will be using a hybrid D at times.

 
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49ers have accepted a trade offer from the Steelers to move down.

Steelers receive 2.13

49ers receive 2.31, 3.31, and Pittsburgh's 3rd rounder in 2012

 
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'Donsmith753 said:
'matttyl said:
'Donsmith753 said:
'matttyl said:
'Donsmith753 said:
Carolina is interested in trading up into the second round. 2012 2nd and two 2011 3rds are available.
Depending on who was there at the time, the 2012 2nd (it'll be early) or the two thirds from this year.The Redskins have already traded out of their 2nd round pick, but what would you have given up to move to #41? Obviously the Skins wouldn't have traded out of that pick until it was their turn, and not until hearing from at least a few teams.
Why would the Skins move from an "early" 2nd round pick this year to an "early" 2nd round pick next year without getting something in return for skipping a year? Especially considering the holes we have and the fact that we don't currently have a 3rd or a 4th this year.As for the two 3rd this year, they're combined "value" is over 100 points away from the Skins #41 pick according to the "value chart" - doesn't make sense either.I was seeing if you'd give next year's 2nd and a 3rd this year.
I can see your point, when I posted about moving up I was thinking the last 3rd of the second round.
Oh, my bad. I thought you were talking to me and the former early 2nd pick specifically with your offer. I might be able to do something with my current late 2nd, though.
 
'Tackling Dummies said:
1.28, The New England Patriots select Benjamin Ijalana, OT, Villanova

With the uncertainty of Mankins deal and Neal retiring, a need pick here.
I think Dallas would hope he dropped to 40. I guess he's a long way away from there....
 
49ers have accepted a trade offer from the Steelers to move down.

Steelers receive 2.13

49ers receive 2.31, 3.31, and Pittsburgh's 3rd rounder in 2012
Is this going to hold up in a mock next year :lmao:
Either its attempt at a real mock, or it isn't. The 49ers will now enter next year draft with an extra pick and increased mobility.
Man I would have gave the 9ers more of the Saints next years picks than that for the 2.13
 
'Tackling Dummies said:
With the first pick in the second round, the Patriots select

Mikel Leshoure, RB, Illinois

I know the track record of NE (not) selecting RBs, but Fred Taylor, Sammie Morris and Kevin Faulk are toast. BJGE and Woodhead carried the water at the end of the season and Leshoure slots into the RBBC at the top of the Patriots depth chart as long as his pass protection is good enough.
As a pats fan, I would be elated if the pats drafted the way you have. Well done.
 
With the 34th pick in the 2011 Draft the Make believe Bengal's select... Colin Kaepernick QB.

Bengal's just can't ignore QB. I considered Mallet and Ponder. But Jay Gruden's offense puts an emphasis on intelligence than it does on a strong arm. A quarterback would need to make quick reads and, more often than not, only be required to make short to intermediate passes. There won't be nearly as many deep balls as there have been over the last few years.

Thanks.

 
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Tons of picks made after a slow start, lets get caught up:

Round 1

1. Carolina Panthers (Donsmith753) - A.J. Green (WR, Georgia)

2. Denver Broncos (BusMan) - Marcell Dareus (DT, Alabama)

3. Buffalo Bills (Mr. Peterson)
 - Cam Newton (QB, Auburn)

4. Cincinnati Bengals (comet909) - Patrick Peterson (CB, LSU)

5. Arizona Cardinals (Andy Dufresne) - Von Miller (LB, Texas A&M)

*6. Tennessee Titans (shader) - Blaine Gabbert (QB, Missouri) (Titans give up 3.13)

7. San Francisco 49ers (chinawildman) - Julio Jones (WR, Alabama)


*8. Cleveland Browns (gandalas) - Nick Fairley (DT, Auburn) (Cleveland acquires 3.13)

9. Dallas Cowboys (asn4play) - Tyron Smith (OT, USC)

10. Washington Redskins (matttyl) - Robert Quinn (DE, North Carolina)

11. Houston Texans (Yellow Line is Unoffcial) - Da'Quan Bowers (DE, Clemson)

12. Minnesota Vikings (Andy Dufresne) - Jake Locker (QB, Washington)

13. Detroit Lions (eakfootball)
 - Prince Amukamara (CB, Nebraska)

14. St. Louis Rams (Blackjack)
 - Cameron Jordan (DE, California)

15. Miami Dolphins (Dolfan) - Mike Pouncey (OL, Florida)

16. Jacksonville Jaguars (CompetitiveEdgeFootball)
 - Aldon Smith (DE, Missouri)

17. New England Patriots (Tackling Dummies) - J. J. Watt (DE, Wisconsin)

18. San Diego Chargers ( KeeferMan) Anthony Castanzo OT Boston College

19. New York Giants (J Andersson) Gabe Carimi OT, Wisconsin

20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers(Kirby) Ryan Kerrigan (DE, Purdue)

21. Kansas City Chiefs )Kcions) - Phil Taylor (NT, Baylor)

22. Indianapolis Colts (Cipherchris) - Corey Liuget (DT, Illinois)

23. Philadelphia Eagles (JetMaxx) - Nate Solder (OT, Colorado)

24. New Orleans Saints (adrenaline )
 - Muhammad Wilkerson (DL, Temple)

25. Seattle Seahawks (bleachercreacher) - Jimmy Smith (CB, Colorado)


26. Baltimore Ravens (gerome ) - Derrick Sherrod (OT, Mississippi State)


27. Atlanta Falcons (No Way Jose) Mark Ingram (RB, Alabama)

28. New England Patriots (Tackling Dummies) Benjamin Ijalana , OT, Villanova

29. Chicago Bears (Grimace59) Akeem Ayers LB UCLA

*30. New York Jets (Kruppe) The Jets accepted a trade from the San Diego Chargers.

Picks #50 and #61 go to the Jets and the Chargers use pick 30 to select Adrian Clayborn , DE Iowa

31. Pittsburgh Steelers (BigSteelThrill) CB Brandon Harris Miami

32. Green Bay Packers (fatkid) Justin Houston - OLB Georgia

Round 2

1. New England Patriots (Tackling Dummies)

J. J. Watt (DE, Wisconsin), Benjamin Ijalana , OT, Villanova

Mikel Leshoure RB, Illinois

2. Buffalo Bills (Mr. Peterson)

Cam Newton (QB, Auburn)

Cameron Heyward - DE - Ohio State

3. Cincinnati Bengals (comet909)

Patrick Peterson (CB, LSU)

Colin Kaepernick , QB Nevada,

UP NOW!

4. Denver Broncos (BusMan)

Marcell Dareus (DT, Alabama)

5. Cleveland Browns (gandalas)

6. Arizona Cardinals (Andy Dufresne)

7. Tennessee Titans (shader)

8. Dallas Cowboys (asn4play)

*9. New Orleans Saints (adrenaline )

10. Houston Texans (Yellow Line is Unoffcial)

11. Minnesota Vikings (Andy Dufresne)

12, Detroit Lions (eakfootball)

*13. Pittsburgh Steelers (BigSteelThrill)

14. Denver Broncos (BusMan)

 
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The updated and dwindling cheat-sheet of the top remaining players still left. The players are listed in descending order so the first player is considered the highest rated at their position over the next listed player.

Best players left on the board:

QB - QB Christian Ponder Florida State, QB Ryan Mallett Arkansas, QB Andy Dalton TCU,

OL - OT Danny Watkins Baylor, G/C Stefen Wisniewski Penn State

TE - TE Kyle Rudolph Notre Dame

WR - WR Torrey Smith Maryland, WR Jon Baldwin Pittsburgh, WR Leonard Hankerson Miami, WR/KE Randall Cobb Kentucky,

RB - RB Ryan Williams Virginia Tech

DL - DT Marvin Austin North Carolina, DE/DT Christian Ballard Iowa, DT/NT Stephen Paea Oregon State

LB - OLB/DE Brooks Reed Arizona, MLB Martez Wilson Illinois

CB - CB/FS Aaron Williams Texas

The highest rated player is probably Marvin Austin as he has accepted an invitation to the draft so he is expected to be one of the players taken in the first round.

 
'CompetitiveEdgeFootball said:
I say we give 1.5 hours per pick... make that the clock.Lets give them a defensive piece. That's the way they're bound to go.Houston, Ayers, Rahim Moore are all fine with me.
I can't get online on Sunday >_<
 
With the 36th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft the Denver Broncos select:

Kyle Rudolph - TE - Notre Dame

I hoped for Rudolph all along but was a touch scared the scarcity at the TE position would have driven someone to take him late in the first.

Denver's returning leader at the TE position is Richard Quinn. Josh McDaniels infamously traded up into the second round of the 2009 draft to pick this one-trick (blocking) pony, exhibiting his complete cluelessness in the process. In 2010, Quinn had one catch for nine yards. In Quinn's NFL career, he has one catch for nine yards. Its unclear how many successful blocks he has made.

PMing gandalas.

 
49ers have accepted a trade offer from the Steelers to move down.

Steelers receive 2.13

49ers receive 2.31, 3.31, and Pittsburgh's 3rd rounder in 2012
Is this going to hold up in a mock next year :lmao:
The more the merrier hombre.
Ok I can't trade Kolb but we can trade future picks? :lmao:
Um, well this is how the NFL draft is going to be, so this makes sense.
 
With the 36th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft the Denver Broncos select:

Kyle Rudolph - TE - Notre Dame

I hoped for Rudolph all along but was a touch scared the scarcity at the TE position would have driven someone to take him late in the first.

Denver's returning leader at the TE position is Richard Quinn. Josh McDaniels infamously traded up into the second round of the 2009 draft to pick this one-trick (blocking) pony, exhibiting his complete cluelessness in the process. In 2010, Quinn had one catch for nine yards. In Quinn's NFL career, he has one catch for nine yards. Its unclear how many successful blocks he has made.

PMing gandalas.
Who is the OC in Denver? John Fox's offenses traditionally haven't featured the TE position much.
 
With the 36th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft the Denver Broncos select:

Kyle Rudolph - TE - Notre Dame

I hoped for Rudolph all along but was a touch scared the scarcity at the TE position would have driven someone to take him late in the first.

Denver's returning leader at the TE position is Richard Quinn. Josh McDaniels infamously traded up into the second round of the 2009 draft to pick this one-trick (blocking) pony, exhibiting his complete cluelessness in the process. In 2010, Quinn had one catch for nine yards. In Quinn's NFL career, he has one catch for nine yards. Its unclear how many successful blocks he has made.

PMing gandalas.
Who is the OC in Denver? John Fox's offenses traditionally haven't featured the TE position much.
Mike McCoy. He was an offensive asst under fox in car before leaving for Den in 08. He's the den OC now, but if he will run foxs old system or something more updated remains to be seen. Car through it's run of playoff contention never had a TE this athletic... So was it never featured because it's not part of Fox's system, or because he just never came upon the personnell?
 
Andy, any interest in Kolb for AZ's 2 & 3? I know you personally aren't high on him but AZ is in the real world and would likely do this trade in a heartbeat.

 
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Andy, any interest in Kolb for AZ's 2 & 3? I know you personally aren't high on him but AZ is in the real world and would likely do this trade in a heartbeat.
Interested, but haven't we established here that player trades aren't allowed (mimicking the real-life draft at this point)?
 
With the 36th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft the Denver Broncos select:

Kyle Rudolph - TE - Notre Dame

I hoped for Rudolph all along but was a touch scared the scarcity at the TE position would have driven someone to take him late in the first.

Denver's returning leader at the TE position is Richard Quinn. Josh McDaniels infamously traded up into the second round of the 2009 draft to pick this one-trick (blocking) pony, exhibiting his complete cluelessness in the process. In 2010, Quinn had one catch for nine yards. In Quinn's NFL career, he has one catch for nine yards. Its unclear how many successful blocks he has made.

PMing gandalas.
Who is the OC in Denver? John Fox's offenses traditionally haven't featured the TE position much.
Mike McCoy. He was an offensive asst under fox in car before leaving for Den in 08. He's the den OC now, but if he will run foxs old system or something more updated remains to be seen. Car through it's run of playoff contention never had a TE this athletic... So was it never featured because it's not part of Fox's system, or because he just never came upon the personnell?
Fox is a head coach with a background on the defensive side of the ball. That said, its clear Fox prefers his offense balanced. McCoy is likely to stick with the offense McDaniels installed, unless they make some accommodations for Tebow or Fox tells him to achieve a higher run/pass ratio. I think it makes a lot of sense to have a good pass-catching TE if Tebow is going to be the quarterback. He'll need a safety valve when he's doing his scramble thing.The Broncos have needs all over the team, especially on defense, so I could have easily gone with that side of the ball. But I wanted Rudolph for an extra dimension on offense.

 
With the 36th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft the Denver Broncos select:

Kyle Rudolph - TE - Notre Dame

I hoped for Rudolph all along but was a touch scared the scarcity at the TE position would have driven someone to take him late in the first.

Denver's returning leader at the TE position is Richard Quinn. Josh McDaniels infamously traded up into the second round of the 2009 draft to pick this one-trick (blocking) pony, exhibiting his complete cluelessness in the process. In 2010, Quinn had one catch for nine yards. In Quinn's NFL career, he has one catch for nine yards. Its unclear how many successful blocks he has made.

PMing gandalas.
Who is the OC in Denver? John Fox's offenses traditionally haven't featured the TE position much.
Mike McCoy. He was an offensive asst under fox in car before leaving for Den in 08. He's the den OC now, but if he will run foxs old system or something more updated remains to be seen. Car through it's run of playoff contention never had a TE this athletic... So was it never featured because it's not part of Fox's system, or because he just never came upon the personnell?
Fox has been a defensive coach his entire career. I don't really think he has an offensive system.

 
With the 36th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft the Denver Broncos select:

Kyle Rudolph - TE - Notre Dame

I hoped for Rudolph all along but was a touch scared the scarcity at the TE position would have driven someone to take him late in the first.

Denver's returning leader at the TE position is Richard Quinn. Josh McDaniels infamously traded up into the second round of the 2009 draft to pick this one-trick (blocking) pony, exhibiting his complete cluelessness in the process. In 2010, Quinn had one catch for nine yards. In Quinn's NFL career, he has one catch for nine yards. Its unclear how many successful blocks he has made.

PMing gandalas.
Who is the OC in Denver? John Fox's offenses traditionally haven't featured the TE position much.
Mike McCoy. He was an offensive asst under fox in car before leaving for Den in 08. He's the den OC now, but if he will run foxs old system or something more updated remains to be seen. Car through it's run of playoff contention never had a TE this athletic... So was it never featured because it's not part of Fox's system, or because he just never came upon the personnell?
Fox is a head coach with a background on the defensive side of the ball. That said, its clear Fox prefers his offense balanced. McCoy is likely to stick with the offense McDaniels installed, unless they make some accommodations for Tebow or Fox tells him to achieve a higher run/pass ratio. I think it makes a lot of sense to have a good pass-catching TE if Tebow is going to be the quarterback. He'll need a safety valve when he's doing his scramble thing.The Broncos have needs all over the team, especially on defense, so I could have easily gone with that side of the ball. But I wanted Rudolph for an extra dimension on offense.
My best guess- they return to a bit more balance, since mcd's run/pass ratio was just silly unbalanced. Don't mean going totally conservative and run first, but closer to 50-50
 
Good Morning all!

Just got into the office...

With the 5th pick in the 2nd round, the Cleveland Browns select WR Jonathan Baldwin, and hope to get another productive PITT receiver ala Larry Fitzgerald.

 
'Tackling Dummies said:
With the first pick in the second round, the Patriots select

Mikel Leshoure, RB, Illinois

I know the track record of NE (not) selecting RBs, but Fred Taylor, Sammie Morris and Kevin Faulk are toast. BJGE and Woodhead carried the water at the end of the season and Leshoure slots into the RBBC at the top of the Patriots depth chart as long as his pass protection is good enough.
As a pats fan, I would be elated if the pats drafted the way you have. Well done.
Thanks, but trying to mimic Belichick is a losing prop. I know it's been said before, but having the three picks between 1.17 and 2.1 is living right, but he'll most likely move at least once there. Not to be too rigid, but my though process was best available DE at 17, interior O-line at 28 and see what's on the board at 2.1. The 2.1 probably has the most value after the first day ends and a particular player is still there for an anxious team.
 
I don't think Baldwin would be the 3rd WR off the board.
I considered Torry Smith, but I LOVE the fact that Baldwin has been working with Fitzgerald and Darelle Revis the past couple of weeks. We all know that WRs benefit greatly from attending Fitz's camp every year, so the fact that he is getting this personal attention from the NFLs best CB and WR (arguably) before he is even drafted speaks volumes to me.I just love his size and the connection to Fitz above all.
 
Pick #38 (2.06) - Marcus Cannon, OG/OT - TCU

I'm going on the assumption that they're going to sign a veteran QB. Their entire interior offensive line are free agents. Cannon can play either guard or tackle and is the road grader type that I think Whiz is looking for.

 
I don't think Baldwin would be the 3rd WR off the board.
I considered Torry Smith, but I LOVE the fact that Baldwin has been working with Fitzgerald and Darelle Revis the past couple of weeks. We all know that WRs benefit greatly from attending Fitz's camp every year, so the fact that he is getting this personal attention from the NFLs best CB and WR (arguably) before he is even drafted speaks volumes to me.I just love his size and the connection to Fitz above all.
:hophead: exactly my thought. Having passed up on Julio, Baldwin is the next best thing IMHO.
 
Pick #38 (2.06) - Marcus Cannon, OG/OT - TCU

I'm going on the assumption that they're going to sign a veteran QB. Their entire interior offensive line are free agents. Cannon can play either guard or tackle and is the road grader type that I think Whiz is looking for.
LOVE IT! but is he a top 2nd round pick?
 

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