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Shark Pool Mock Draft 2011 - 4 Rounds (1 Viewer)

Sorry for the late post, been out of the house all dayWith the 1.22 pick the Indianapolis Colts select: Corey Liuget, DT IllinoisSure, Solder or Sherrod would make sense to patch up the horrible O-line men, but the Colts have been burned by previous O-line men, and their best O line guy is picked up from the undrafted FA pool (J. Saturday). So the first and most pressing priority would be to take someone who can help stop the run on D.
Excellent.I was gonna post how one of the interior D-Line made more sense to me, but I didn't want to spotlight.
:wall: Exactly why I wanted to leap frog the Colts. A pass rushing, impact DT is desperately needed on the Eagles who have struggled with the interior pass rush for way too long. With that I will make the selection:With the 1.23 pick the Philadelphia Eagles select: Nate Solder, OT ColoradoSolder provides an athletic prospect at the OT position moving forward. A legit franchise LT prospect at this point in the draft are rare so Solder made more sense than Harris or Smith at CB.
Heehee, Sorry Philly! I really do believe the Colts will stay the course with not drafting an Oline. They've been more successful that way than not.
 
With the 1.24 pick the New Orleans Saints select Muhammad Wilkerson DL Temple

Tall, extremely well-built DT who carries his weight well. Has room on frame to add bulk if necessary. Shows better than average speed for size. Consistently fires off the ball and gets into the pads of OL. Strong at point of attack. Can stack and shed as well as any five-technique in this class. Has great size with good lower-body strength and excellent upper body power. Can anchor versus the run but is also very adept at finding the ball, disengaging, pursuing and making the play. Power rusher. Will stand up OL and can bull rush him back into the QB. Finds the ball faster than most five-technique's, shows ability to shed quickly and has adequate-to-good closing burst for a 300-pound DL. Not elite initial burst but shows adequate-to-good first step quickness for his size. Shows strong, quick hands. Not as violent as some elite DT's but can shed quickly. Very functional when it comes to controlling blockers and disengaging when it is time to do so. Would not describe him as relentless but also don't see him taking any plays off. Gives good overall effort. Is tough and flashes a mean streak. Works hard and finishes.

Had a look at Ingram & Jimmy Smith here. Just not sold on Ingram having the physical tools to be successful in the NFL. Jimmy Smith is a great cover corner but only had 3 ints in his college career. With a league low 9 ints the Saints could use someone with better ball skills. Came down to just grabbing the BPA.

 
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With the 1.25 pick the Seattle Seahawks select Jimmy Smith, CB Colorado

Seattle has a lot of holes to fill on both sides of the ball, but this secondary is easily their biggest need. Jimmy Smith is a tall athletic corner with great speed. I think that Seattle takes a long look at Pouncey if he is available here, but secondary is their biggest need.

 
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Let's try this again...

1.12 - Jake Locker, QB Washington

I've actually come around on Locker. His ability to throw on the run is a good skill to have and I like the reports of his technique improving with just a little coaching this offseason. I think he has the talent to be a franchise QB and would be very satisfied if the Vikes selected him.
Report: Locker could be Vikes' pick at No. 12

After doing a "lot of digging," ESPN 1500's Tom Pelissero believes Washington QB Jake Locker could be the Vikings' pick at No. 12 overall.

Locker has generated "comparisons internally" to Brett Favre at Vikings headquarters, and there is a "growing sense around the NFL" that he's Minnesota bound. "He's such a tough-### football player," said one NFC executive, who attributed Locker's poor completion rates to his "motion" being "off." "Now, it's pretty good," added the exec. "He worked on it, fixed it in the offseason." The report states that Tennessee at No. 8 and Washington at No. 10 are also very much in the mix for Locker.
 
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1.20 Tampa Bay selects Ryan Kerrigan.
Sorry I didn't join in the conversation yesterday... wasn't home much and just wanted to get the pick in so the draft could move along. This is who I was targeting here. I think if Bowers drops to 15ish you could see TB trade up to get him. They need some kind of pass rush from the outside as they had none last year. Another guy I would have looked at here was Houston, I took him in the last mock we did, but if Kerrigan is still on the board, he's the pick.
 
With the 1.26 pick the Baltimore Ravens select Derrick Sherrod, Mississippi State

Ravens need a corner here, but Jimmy Smith was stolen right in front of them. Brandon Harris might be a good pick here, but I think it may be a little high for him.

 
Let's try this again...

1.12 - Jake Locker, QB Washington

I've actually come around on Locker. His ability to throw on the run is a good skill to have and I like the reports of his technique improving with just a little coaching this offseason. I think he has the talent to be a franchise QB and would be very satisfied if the Vikes selected him.
Report: Locker could be Vikes' pick at No. 12

After doing a "lot of digging," ESPN 1500's Tom Pelissero believes Washington QB Jake Locker could be the Vikings' pick at No. 12 overall.

Locker has generated "comparisons internally" to Brett Favre at Vikings headquarters, and there is a "growing sense around the NFL" that he's Minnesota bound. "He's such a tough-### football player," said one NFC executive, who attributed Locker's poor completion rates to his "motion" being "off." "Now, it's pretty good," added the exec. "He worked on it, fixed it in the offseason." The report states that Tennessee at No. 8 and Washington at No. 10 are also very much in the mix for Locker.
:bowtie:
 
Stopped by at 9am EST to check draft status and trade PMs.

Ill be back in a couple hours.

* I sent the selection to chinawildman, should I be be gone for too long. at 10am

 
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With the 1.26 pick the Baltimore Ravens select Derrick Sherrod, Mississippi StateRavens need a corner here, but Jimmy Smith was stolen right in front of them. Brandon Harris might be a good pick here, but I think it may be a little high for him.
Typical Baltimore pick. Getting great value that slides to them.
 
Just to get people caught up and can easily see who has/hasn't already been selected:

Atlanta is on the clock.

Round 1

1. Carolina Panthers (Donsmith753) - A.J. Green (WR, Georgia)

2. Denver Broncos (BusMan) - Marcell Dareus (DT, Alabama)

3. Buffalo Bills (Mr. Peterson)
 - Cam Newton (QB, Auburn)

4. Cincinnati Bengals (comet909) - Patrick Peterson (CB, LSU)


5. Arizona Cardinals (Andy Dufresne) - Von Miller (LB, Texas A&M)

*6. Tennessee Titans (shader) - Blaine Gabbert (QB, Missouri) (Titans give up 3.13)

7. San Francisco 49ers (chinawildman) - Julio Jones (WR, Alabama)


*8. Cleveland Browns (gandalas) - Nick Fairley (DT, Auburn) (Cleveland acquires 3.13)

9. Dallas Cowboys (asn4play) - Tyron Smith (OT, USC)

10. Washington Redskins (matttyl) - Robert Quinn (DE, North Carolina)

11. Houston Texans (Yellow Line is Unoffcial) - Da'Quan Bowers (DE, Clemson)

12. Minnesota Vikings (Andy Dufresne) - Jake Locker (QB, Washington)

13. Detroit Lions (eakfootball)
 - Prince Amukamara (CB, Nebraska)

14. St. Louis Rams (Blackjack)
 - Cameron Jordan (DE, California)

15. Miami Dolphins (Dolfan) - Mike Pouncey (OL, Florida)

16. Jacksonville Jaguars (CompetitiveEdgeFootball)
 - Aldon Smith (DE, Missouri)

17. New England Patriots (Tackling Dummies) - J. J. Watt (DE, Wisconsin)

18. San Diego Chargers ( KeeferMan) Anthony Castanzo OT Boston College

19. New York Giants (J Andersson) Gabe Carimi OT, Wisconsin

20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers(Kirby) Ryan Kerrigan (DE, Purdue)

21. Kansas City Chiefs )Kcions) - Phil Taylor (NT, Baylor)

22.Indianapolis Colts (Cipherchris) - Corey Liuget (DT, Illinois)

23. Philadelphia Eagles (JetMaxx) - Nate Solder (OT, Colorado)

24. New Orleans Saints (adrenaline )
 - Muhammad Wilkerson (DL, Temple)

25. Seattle Seahawks (bleachercreacher) - Jimmy Smith (CB, Colorado)


26. Baltimore Ravens (gerome ) - Derrick Sherrod (OT, Mississippi State)




27. Atlanta Falcons (No Way Jose)


28. New England Patriots (Tackling Dummies)


29. Chicago Bears (Grimace59)

30. New York Jets (Kruppe)

31. Pittsburgh Steelers (BigSteelThrill)

32. Green Bay Packers (fatkid)

Round 2

1. New England Patriots (Tackling Dummies)

2. Buffalo Bills (Mr. Peterson)

3. Cincinnati Bengals (comet909)

4. Denver Broncos (BusMan)

5. Cleveland Browns (gandalas)

6. Arizona Cardinals (Andy Dufresne)

7. Tennessee Titans (shader)

8. Dallas Cowboys (asn4play)

9. Washington Redskins (matttyl)

10. Houston Texans (Yellow Line is Unoffcial)

11. Minnesota Vikings (Andy Dufresne)

12, Detroit Lions (eakfootball)

13. San Francisco 49ers (chinawildman)

14. Denver Broncos (BusMan)

Here's a cheat-sheet of the top remaining players still left. The players are listed in descending order so the first player is considered the highest rated at their position over the next listed player.

Best players left on the board:

QB - QB Christian Ponder Florida State, QB Colin Kaepernick Nevada,

QB Ryan Mallett Arkansas, QB Andy Dalton TCU,

OL - OT Danny Watkins Baylor, OL Benjamin Ijalana Villanova, G/C Stefen Wisniewski Penn State

TE - TE Kyle Rudolph Notre Dame

WR - WR Torrey Smith Maryland, WR Jon Baldwin Pittsburgh, WR Leonard Hankerson Miami, WR/KE Randall Cobb Kentucky,

RB - RB Mark Ingram Alabama, RB Mikel Leshoure Illinois, RB Ryan Williams Virginia Tech

DL - DE Adrian Clayborn Iowa, DE Cameron Heyward Ohio State, DT Marvin Austin North Carolina, DE/DT Christian Ballard Iowa, DT/NT Stephen Paea Oregon State

LB - OLB/DE Akeem Ayers UCLA, OLB/DE Justin Houston Georgia, OLB/DE Brooks Reed Arizona, MLB Martez Wilson Illinois

CB - CB/FS Aaron Williams Texas, CB Brandon Harris Miami

S - FS Rahim Moore UCLA

 
Players taken already by position:

D-Linemen - 12 have already been selected so the next DL taken off the board will be the 13th best player on the D-Line from this draft, if you count Ryan Kerrigan as a D-lineman because he's going to a 4-3 team where he will line up as a down lineman.

O-Linemen - 6

Quaterback - 3

Cornerback - 3

Wide Reciever - 2

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Running Back - 0

Tight End - 0

Linebacker - 0

Safetey - 0

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Seemslike their could be some bargains, especially at running back, possibly linebacker since those positionns haven't been tapped yet.

 
Players taken already by position:

D-Linemen - 12 have already been selected so the next DL taken off the board will be the 13th best player on the D-Line from this draft, if you count Ryan Kerrigan as a D-lineman because he's going to a 4-3 team where he will line up as a down lineman.

O-Linemen - 6

Quaterback - 3

Cornerback - 3

Wide Reciever - 2

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Running Back - 0

Tight End - 0

Linebacker - 0

Safetey - 0

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Seemslike their could be some bargains, especially at running back, possibly linebacker since those positionns haven't been tapped yet.
Von Miller will be considered a LB.
 
Players taken already by position:

D-Linemen - 12 have already been selected so the next DL taken off the board will be the 13th best player on the D-Line from this draft, if you count Ryan Kerrigan as a D-lineman because he's going to a 4-3 team where he will line up as a down lineman.

O-Linemen - 6

Quaterback - 3

Cornerback - 3

Wide Reciever - 2

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Running Back - 0

Tight End - 0

Linebacker - 0

Safetey - 0

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Seemslike their could be some bargains, especially at running back, possibly linebacker since those positionns haven't been tapped yet.
Von Miller will be considered a LB.
Yup, yer right.The raw numbers show that this draft is inded D-Line dominant but at this point in the draft things seem to have equaled out. I doubt very much that anyone would say that Adrian Clayborn is without a doubt the highest rated player left on this draft board. When things even out in a draft their is a reset button that gets pressed and then you have to think globally again and consider the highest rated players at all positions first and then start plucking them off the board.

After the highest rated players are taken teams will re-adjust and think about which positions have the the highest impact/upside etc and then we start to drift back to the quarterback position or they will start to overlook ratings and start to address team needs reguardless of overall rating.

 
No Way Jose was here at 9:44 last night and had to know that his pick would be up sometime this morning... :angry:

Atlanta could go a lot of ways:

Brooks Reed

Ras-I Dowling

Randall Cobb

Mark Ingram

 
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No Way Jose was here at 9:44 last night and had to know that his pick would be up sometime this morning... :angry:Atlanta could go a lot of ways:Brooks ReedRas-I DowlingRandall CobbMark Ingram
Torey Smith?
Yes. Any of the next tier of WRs could be a consideration.
I would think that Kyle Rudolph might be a consideration as well if they think Tony Gonzalez only has a year or two left in him.
 
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No Way Jose was here at 9:44 last night and had to know that his pick would be up sometime this morning... :angry:Atlanta could go a lot of ways:Brooks ReedRas-I DowlingRandall CobbMark Ingram
Torey Smith?
Yes. Any of the next tier of WRs could be a consideration.
I would think that Kyle Rudolph might be a consideration as well if they think Tony Gonzalez only has a year or two left in him.
Yea that'd be an interesting idea too. Atl has very few glaring needs so they have some flexibility, which makes this another interesting pick.
 
No Way Jose was here at 9:44 last night and had to know that his pick would be up sometime this morning... :angry:Atlanta could go a lot of ways:Brooks ReedRas-I DowlingRandall CobbMark Ingram
Torey Smith?
Yes. Any of the next tier of WRs could be a consideration.
I would think that Kyle Rudolph might be a consideration as well if they think Tony Gonzalez only has a year or two left in him.
Didn't Rudolph have a horrible pro day? No way he get's taken in the 1st round. Side note with my pic coming up (Chicago #29) I don;t know where I'll go with the O/D lineman run in the 1st.
 
Side note with my pic coming up (Chicago #29) I don;t know where I'll go with the O/D lineman run in the 1st.
Aren't Briggs and Urlacher like 31 & 33? ;)
Yes they will be during next season. I was planning on LB in round 2 or 3, but with so many who have dropped we'll see at this next pick.Bears would be looking at a SLB, that can move into the MLB spot in a couple years.
 
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Well guys, was busy this morning and never got a PM. I mentioned earlier For guys to PM so let's try to do that. Sorry for the delay. I will have a write up on this later but this deft needs a shake up and with most of the top DE's taken, we feel like we can address the WR and TE positions later and still have a lot to choose from. With Norwood too injured to stay on the field and Snelling a FA along with the fact that Turner is not getting any younger and is basically useless in the passing game. The falcons select.

MARK INGRAM

Sometimes these drafts never go how you think they do and this the case here. Falcons make a splash and add a Heisman trophy winner to their team. Bring on the haters.

 
Could be interested in moving up to the bottom first or up in the second. Here's my ammo:

Round 2: pick 50

Round 2: pick 61

Round 3: pick 82

Round 3: pick 89

Would give pick 50 and then other pick(s) depending on the spot and who's on the board.

Please PM with any questions or proposals...

 
Well guys, was busy this morning and never got a PM. I mentioned earlier For guys to PM so let's try to do that. Sorry for the delay. I will have a write up on this later but this deft needs a shake up and with most of the top DE's taken, we feel like we can address the WR and TE positions later and still have a lot to choose from. With Norwood too injured to stay on the field and Snelling a FA along with the fact that Turner is not getting any younger and is basically useless in the passing game. The falcons select.MARK INGRAMSometimes these drafts never go how you think they do and this the case here. Falcons make a splash and add a Heisman trophy winner to their team. Bring on the haters.
Well.... it's a pick.Now that I think about it a minute... I suppose he's right about his RB situation. Norwood is made of porcelain, Turner seems like the workload might be catching up to him...I don't have a problem with this per se, you could rationally make this pick.
 
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Well guys, was busy this morning and never got a PM. I mentioned earlier For guys to PM so let's try to do that. Sorry for the delay. I will have a write up on this later but this deft needs a shake up and with most of the top DE's taken, we feel like we can address the WR and TE positions later and still have a lot to choose from. With Norwood too injured to stay on the field and Snelling a FA along with the fact that Turner is not getting any younger and is basically useless in the passing game. The falcons select.MARK INGRAMSometimes these drafts never go how you think they do and this the case here. Falcons make a splash and add a Heisman trophy winner to their team. Bring on the haters.
I honestly don't think he will last this long, but if he does it will be a steal for Atlanta. I could even see them go with Leshoure if Ingram is already off the board.
 
Well guys, was busy this morning and never got a PM. I mentioned earlier For guys to PM so let's try to do that. Sorry for the delay. I will have a write up on this later but this deft needs a shake up and with most of the top DE's taken, we feel like we can address the WR and TE positions later and still have a lot to choose from. With Norwood too injured to stay on the field and Snelling a FA along with the fact that Turner is not getting any younger and is basically useless in the passing game. The falcons select.MARK INGRAMSometimes these drafts never go how you think they do and this the case here. Falcons make a splash and add a Heisman trophy winner to their team. Bring on the haters.
Well.... it's a pick.Now that I think about it a minute... I suppose he's right about his RB situation. Norwood is made of porcelain, Turner seems like the workload might be catching up to him...I don't have a problem with this per se, you could rationally make this pick.
I can definitely see this, Falcons were linked to couple of the backs in the 2nd and 3rd rounds for a replacement to Turner in a year.
 
No Way Jose was here at 9:44 last night and had to know that his pick would be up sometime this morning... :angry:

Atlanta could go a lot of ways:

Brooks Reed

Ras-I Dowling

Randall Cobb

Mark Ingram
Torey Smith?
Yes. Any of the next tier of WRs could be a consideration.
I would think that Kyle Rudolph might be a consideration as well if they think Tony Gonzalez only has a year or two left in him.
Didn't Rudolph have a horrible pro day? No way he get's taken in the 1st round. Side note with my pic coming up (Chicago #29) I don;t know where I'll go with the O/D lineman run in the 1st.
He had a good pro day and most importanty he showed he was healthy.
 
I'm not sure this is how to "officially" go about doing it, but the Redskins have traded their 2nd round pick (2.09) to the Saints for their 2nd and 3rd round picks (2.24 and 3.24). Please adjust the board accordingly.

Honestly, we'd like to wait to see what is actually still available at that pick before trading down, but in case I don't sign on for a few hours after the pick before me, I don't want to hold up the entire process just for a trade down.

 
I'm not sure this is how to "officially" go about doing it, but the Redskins have traded their 2nd round pick (2.09) to the Saints for their 2nd and 3rd round picks (2.24 and 3.24). Please adjust the board accordingly. Honestly, we'd like to wait to see what is actually still available at that pick before trading down, but in case I don't sign on for a few hours after the pick before me, I don't want to hold up the entire process just for a trade down.
Confirmed!This trade is dead even on the NFL pick value chart. Thanks matttyl!
 
No Way Jose was here at 9:44 last night and had to know that his pick would be up sometime this morning... :angry:

Atlanta could go a lot of ways:

Brooks Reed

Ras-I Dowling

Randall Cobb

Mark Ingram
Torey Smith?
Yes. Any of the next tier of WRs could be a consideration.
I would think that Kyle Rudolph might be a consideration as well if they think Tony Gonzalez only has a year or two left in him.
Didn't Rudolph have a horrible pro day? No way he get's taken in the 1st round. Side note with my pic coming up (Chicago #29) I don;t know where I'll go with the O/D lineman run in the 1st.
He had a good pro day and most importanty he showed he was healthy.
Sorry, re-read what I read before. It talked about a Personnel Director saying this is the worst TE class in a long time, and will propel Kyle into the end of the 1st. Just had worst, and Kyle stuck in my mind. My bad
 
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I have done 2 mock drafts in the Shark Pool and I have ATL taking a rb in both of them.

I had Leshoure instead of Ingram due to having Ingram already off the board.

I wouldnt be surprised at all if ATL went rb in the first and if Ingram is there I would be surprised if they didnt.

Turner is wearing down

 
I'm not sure this is how to "officially" go about doing it, but the Redskins have traded their 2nd round pick (2.09) to the Saints for their 2nd and 3rd round picks (2.24 and 3.24). Please adjust the board accordingly. Honestly, we'd like to wait to see what is actually still available at that pick before trading down, but in case I don't sign on for a few hours after the pick before me, I don't want to hold up the entire process just for a trade down.
Confirmed!This trade is dead even on the NFL pick value chart. Thanks matttyl!
Is Ted Thompson the trade up kind of guy? I thought he was more likely to trade down. Aren't we doing this how we think the franchise we selected would do it?
 
I'm not sure this is how to "officially" go about doing it, but the Redskins have traded their 2nd round pick (2.09) to the Saints for their 2nd and 3rd round picks (2.24 and 3.24). Please adjust the board accordingly. Honestly, we'd like to wait to see what is actually still available at that pick before trading down, but in case I don't sign on for a few hours after the pick before me, I don't want to hold up the entire process just for a trade down.
Confirmed!This trade is dead even on the NFL pick value chart. Thanks matttyl!
Is Ted Thompson the trade up kind of guy? I thought he was more likely to trade down. Aren't we doing this how we think the franchise we selected would do it?
Pretty sure any team would move any direction if it thought it was gaining value.And what players they are projecting to be there, or not be there, goes a long way in the determination.
 
I'm not sure this is how to "officially" go about doing it, but the Redskins have traded their 2nd round pick (2.09) to the Saints for their 2nd and 3rd round picks (2.24 and 3.24). Please adjust the board accordingly. Honestly, we'd like to wait to see what is actually still available at that pick before trading down, but in case I don't sign on for a few hours after the pick before me, I don't want to hold up the entire process just for a trade down.
Confirmed!This trade is dead even on the NFL pick value chart. Thanks matttyl!
Is Ted Thompson the trade up kind of guy? I thought he was more likely to trade down. Aren't we doing this how we think the franchise we selected would do it?
Pretty sure any team would move any direction if it thought it was gaining value.And what players they are projecting to be there, or not be there, goes a long way in the determination.
I was just going to say that I don't remember Ted Thompson ever trading up but then I remembered he traded up to get Clay Mathews, right?
 
I'm not sure this is how to "officially" go about doing it, but the Redskins have traded their 2nd round pick (2.09) to the Saints for their 2nd and 3rd round picks (2.24 and 3.24). Please adjust the board accordingly. Honestly, we'd like to wait to see what is actually still available at that pick before trading down, but in case I don't sign on for a few hours after the pick before me, I don't want to hold up the entire process just for a trade down.
Confirmed!This trade is dead even on the NFL pick value chart. Thanks matttyl!
Is Ted Thompson the trade up kind of guy? I thought he was more likely to trade down. Aren't we doing this how we think the franchise we selected would do it?
Pretty sure any team would move any direction if it thought it was gaining value.And what players they are projecting to be there, or not be there, goes a long way in the determination.
I was just going to say that I don't remember Ted Thompson ever trading up but then I remembered he traded up to get Clay Mathews, right?
Yep, and then traded up again in the 3rd for Morgan Burnett.
 
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I'm not sure this is how to "officially" go about doing it, but the Redskins have traded their 2nd round pick (2.09) to the Saints for their 2nd and 3rd round picks (2.24 and 3.24). Please adjust the board accordingly. Honestly, we'd like to wait to see what is actually still available at that pick before trading down, but in case I don't sign on for a few hours after the pick before me, I don't want to hold up the entire process just for a trade down.
Confirmed!This trade is dead even on the NFL pick value chart. Thanks matttyl!
Is Ted Thompson the trade up kind of guy? I thought he was more likely to trade down. Aren't we doing this how we think the franchise we selected would do it?
Pretty sure any team would move any direction if it thought it was gaining value.And what players they are projecting to be there, or not be there, goes a long way in the determination.
I was just going to say that I don't remember Ted Thompson ever trading up but then I remembered he traded up to get Clay Mathews, right?
Yep, and then traded up again in the 3rd for Morgan Burnett.
Either way, Ted Thompson doesn't work for the Redskins or the Saints.
 

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