chinawildman
Footballguy
I've been updating the OP pretty consistently, it's got all the information on what's going on in this mock draft.
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Shark Pool Mock Draft 2011 - 4 Rounds (1 Viewer)
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Donsmith753
Footballguy
Cool, hadn't realised that. Thanks.
Kirby
Footballguy
Boo... that's who I was hoping would be here for this pick.Tampa Bay selects... Martez Wilson - LB - Illinois
Ruud and Black are free agents, and Ruud hasn't lived up to expectations.
J Andersson
Footballguy
Time for the New York Football Giants to exercise their 52nd pick.
Well, this had me scratch my head for a few...
I'm more inclined to go with a BPA draft than actual needs (even if I managed to adress one need in the first with Gabe Carimi). If we're still talkings needs LB is the most obvious one. With Martez Wilson gone (a player I think is a tad overrated to go here anyway) Mason Foster would be the sole alternative left. If the G-Men were looking in his direction trading down a bit might be a good idea. In this situation I think they adress the need through free-agency or later in the draft.
On my BPA list I have the following
Brooks Reed, DE/OLB, Arizona
Stefen Wisniewski, OG/C, Penn State
Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami
Lots of QBs (Mallett, Ponder, Dalton)
Christian Ballard, DE/DT, Iowa
Wisniewski would be another solid pick re-tooling an aging offensive line, sure. Hankerson is a bit suspect to me and I like the Giants receiving corps enough to look elsewhere. A QB isn't really a need if not the G-Men need someone to light a fire under Eli's ###? Ballard might be a good one, but I'm leaning towards him being more of a workout warrior than a great player.
In the end I choose a player perhaps better suited for a 3-4 OLB spot but Brooks Reed would bring a lot of versatility. He could be groomed to play SLB or DE depending on the situation. I just think Reed edges just about everyone else left as a player and it's not close (by some draft pundits Reed is getting a late first round grade and I really like him even if that might be pushing it a little too far). Also remember Mathias Kiwanuka is injured and/or a free agent less likely to be re-signed.
Reed could step in right away and the Giants could learn him to play the SLB/DE-spot the same way the had been toying with the idea of learning Kiwanuka the position (Kiwi was injured mostly after that so the experiment went laregely untested). That and the fact that the Giants love to pick defensive linemen would mean that...
with the 52nd pick of the 2011 Shark Pool Mock Draft the New York Football Giants select Brooks Reed, OLB, Arizona
Well, this had me scratch my head for a few...
I'm more inclined to go with a BPA draft than actual needs (even if I managed to adress one need in the first with Gabe Carimi). If we're still talkings needs LB is the most obvious one. With Martez Wilson gone (a player I think is a tad overrated to go here anyway) Mason Foster would be the sole alternative left. If the G-Men were looking in his direction trading down a bit might be a good idea. In this situation I think they adress the need through free-agency or later in the draft.
On my BPA list I have the following
Brooks Reed, DE/OLB, Arizona
Stefen Wisniewski, OG/C, Penn State
Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami
Lots of QBs (Mallett, Ponder, Dalton)
Christian Ballard, DE/DT, Iowa
Wisniewski would be another solid pick re-tooling an aging offensive line, sure. Hankerson is a bit suspect to me and I like the Giants receiving corps enough to look elsewhere. A QB isn't really a need if not the G-Men need someone to light a fire under Eli's ###? Ballard might be a good one, but I'm leaning towards him being more of a workout warrior than a great player.
In the end I choose a player perhaps better suited for a 3-4 OLB spot but Brooks Reed would bring a lot of versatility. He could be groomed to play SLB or DE depending on the situation. I just think Reed edges just about everyone else left as a player and it's not close (by some draft pundits Reed is getting a late first round grade and I really like him even if that might be pushing it a little too far). Also remember Mathias Kiwanuka is injured and/or a free agent less likely to be re-signed.
Reed could step in right away and the Giants could learn him to play the SLB/DE-spot the same way the had been toying with the idea of learning Kiwanuka the position (Kiwi was injured mostly after that so the experiment went laregely untested). That and the fact that the Giants love to pick defensive linemen would mean that...
with the 52nd pick of the 2011 Shark Pool Mock Draft the New York Football Giants select Brooks Reed, OLB, Arizona
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chinawildman
Footballguy
For those that haven't noticed, I've been trying to update the results of the draft one the first page as frequently as possible. Click here.
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
I don't see any quarterback in this draft that will give them a better chance to win right now. They are still rebuilding and it will be at least a couple of years until they can put a good, product on the field. There is no better time to draft a possible franchise QB. I find it crazy that they have not drafted a single QB in any draft since 2003.
CompetitiveEdgeFootball
Footballguy
Most QBs don't come from a pro ready system. Stanzi from Iowa comes from a pro style system, he might be able to start fairly quickly, but certainly his upside isn't that of a 1st or 2nd round QB. So very few QBs will be ready to start for this team now, and be better than an average NFL veteran. Garrard isn't derek Anderson or Jimmy claussen. He did post a 60%+ completion %, and a QB rating over 90 in his 14 starts this year. He's competent. He's getting old, I agree. But he doesn't tend to sit due to injury. I do believe however, that there were only a couple "franchise" QB types in this draft, and I really havent heard many people trying to push ponder into that tier. If we had a shot at a legit can't miss franchise type, then I would probably go for it. I might also have taken a shot on kaepernicks athleticism. Of the remaining QBs left, I like Dalton the best. I may not see him next round, but since I've drafted for need, it's not like I've wasted my picks. MSW is leaving, and although mike thomas can be relevant, he's extremely tiny. The cupboard is bare at WR, and Torrey Smith is a game breaker. If there was a "franchise QB" to take, I may have. It's likely that ponder will end up a competent NFL starter, but I think pushing him into the "franchise" territory is pushing him a little further than he should go. Especially when i already have a competent veteran starting, who knows the system and the offense very well, and has had some success. Hes a good prospect, but not any kind of "special talent." Ponder wouldn't start on this team for at least half a season, maybe more. Smith will likely start immediately.I don't think falling in love with mid range QB talent too early would benefit a franchise with this many holes.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
GD it. Cipherchris was on at 11:00 last night and knew he was on deck. Why couldn't he send someone a list if he wasn't going to be up to make the pick this morning. 
CompetitiveEdgeFootball
Footballguy
Holy toledo.GD it. Cipherchris was on at 11:00 last night and knew he was on deck. Why couldn't he send someone a list if he wasn't going to be up to make the pick this morning.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
To cul everything together so people can keep up:
Round 2
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1. New England Patriots (Tackling Dummies)
J. J. Watt (DE, Wisconsin), Benjamin Ijalana , OT, Villanova
Mikel Leshoure RB, Illinois
2. Buffalo Bills (Mr. Peterson)
Cam Newton (QB, Auburn)
Cameron Heyward - DE - Ohio State
3. Cincinnati Bengals (comet909)
Patrick Peterson (CB, LSU)
Colin Kaepernick , QB Nevada,
4. Denver Broncos (BusMan)
Marcell Dareus (DT, Alabama)
Kyle Rudolph - TE - Notre Dame
5. Cleveland Browns (gandalas)
-Nick Fairley (DT, Auburn)
Jonathan Baldwin WR Pittsburgh
6. Arizona Cardinals (Andy Dufresne)
Von Miller (LB, Texas A&M)
Marcus Cannon OG/OT - TCU
7. Tennessee Titans (shader)
Blaine Gabbert (QB, Missouri)
Aaron Williams CB Texas
8. Dallas Cowboys (asn4play)
Tyron Smith (OT, USC)
Rahim Moore FS UCLA
*9. New Orleans Saints (adrenaline )
Muhammad Wilkerson (DL, Temple)
Tandon Doss WR Indiana
10. Houston Texans (Yellow Line is Unoffcial)
Da'Quan Bowers (DE, Clemson)
Jabaal Sheard DE/OLB Pittsburgh
11. Minnesota Vikings (Andy Dufresne)
Jake Locker (QB, Washington)
Stephen Paea DT Oregon St.
12. Detroit Lions (eakfootball) - Prince Amukamara (CB, Nebraska)
Randall Cobb (WR, Kentucky)
*13. . Pittsburgh Steelers (BigSteelThrill) CB Brandon Harris Miami
Marcus Gilbert (OT, Florida
14. Denver Broncos (BusMan)
Marcell Dareus (DT, Alabama)
Kyle Rudolph - TE - Notre Dame
Marvin Austin (DT, North Carolina)
15. St. Louis Rams (Blackjack) - Cameron Jordan (DE, California)
Ryan Williams (RB, Virginia Tech
16. Oakland Raiders (Harjiran) -
Danny Watkins (OT, Baylor)
17. Jacksonville Jaguars (CompetitiveEdgeFootball) - Aldon Smith (DE, Missouri)
Torrey Smith (WR, Maryland)
*18. New York Jets (Kruppe) -
Allen Bailey (DE, Miami) 3
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers(Kirby) Ryan Kerrigan (DE, Purdue)
Martez Wilson (LB, Illinois)
20. New York Giants (J Andersson) Gabe Carimi OT, Wisconsin
Brooks Reed (OLB, Arizona)
21. Indianapolis Colts (Cipherchris)
22. Philadelphia Eagles (JetMaxx)
23. Kansas City Chiefs ( KCitons)
*24. Washington Redskins (matttyl)
25. Seattle Seahawks (bleachercreacher)
26. Baltimore Ravens (gerome )
27. Atlanta Falcons (No Way Jose)
28. New England Patriots (Tackling Dummies)
*29. New York Jets (Kruppe)
30. Chicago Bears (Grimace59)
31. San Francisco 49ers (chinawildman)
*32. Green Bay Packers (fatkid)
Round 3
Use these links for cheat sheets of how some of the major draft sites view the remaining players.
PFW
NFP National Football League Post
Draft Countdown rankings
Round 2
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1. New England Patriots (Tackling Dummies)
J. J. Watt (DE, Wisconsin), Benjamin Ijalana , OT, Villanova
Mikel Leshoure RB, Illinois
2. Buffalo Bills (Mr. Peterson)
Cam Newton (QB, Auburn)
Cameron Heyward - DE - Ohio State
3. Cincinnati Bengals (comet909)
Patrick Peterson (CB, LSU)
Colin Kaepernick , QB Nevada,
4. Denver Broncos (BusMan)
Marcell Dareus (DT, Alabama)
Kyle Rudolph - TE - Notre Dame
5. Cleveland Browns (gandalas)
-Nick Fairley (DT, Auburn)
Jonathan Baldwin WR Pittsburgh
6. Arizona Cardinals (Andy Dufresne)
Von Miller (LB, Texas A&M)
Marcus Cannon OG/OT - TCU
7. Tennessee Titans (shader)
Blaine Gabbert (QB, Missouri)
Aaron Williams CB Texas
8. Dallas Cowboys (asn4play)
Tyron Smith (OT, USC)
Rahim Moore FS UCLA
*9. New Orleans Saints (adrenaline )
Muhammad Wilkerson (DL, Temple)
Tandon Doss WR Indiana
10. Houston Texans (Yellow Line is Unoffcial)
Da'Quan Bowers (DE, Clemson)
Jabaal Sheard DE/OLB Pittsburgh
11. Minnesota Vikings (Andy Dufresne)
Jake Locker (QB, Washington)
Stephen Paea DT Oregon St.
12. Detroit Lions (eakfootball) - Prince Amukamara (CB, Nebraska)
Randall Cobb (WR, Kentucky)
*13. . Pittsburgh Steelers (BigSteelThrill) CB Brandon Harris Miami
Marcus Gilbert (OT, Florida
14. Denver Broncos (BusMan)
Marcell Dareus (DT, Alabama)
Kyle Rudolph - TE - Notre Dame
Marvin Austin (DT, North Carolina)
15. St. Louis Rams (Blackjack) - Cameron Jordan (DE, California)
Ryan Williams (RB, Virginia Tech
16. Oakland Raiders (Harjiran) -
Danny Watkins (OT, Baylor)
17. Jacksonville Jaguars (CompetitiveEdgeFootball) - Aldon Smith (DE, Missouri)
Torrey Smith (WR, Maryland)
*18. New York Jets (Kruppe) -
Allen Bailey (DE, Miami) 3
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers(Kirby) Ryan Kerrigan (DE, Purdue)
Martez Wilson (LB, Illinois)
20. New York Giants (J Andersson) Gabe Carimi OT, Wisconsin
Brooks Reed (OLB, Arizona)
21. Indianapolis Colts (Cipherchris)
22. Philadelphia Eagles (JetMaxx)
23. Kansas City Chiefs ( KCitons)
*24. Washington Redskins (matttyl)
25. Seattle Seahawks (bleachercreacher)
26. Baltimore Ravens (gerome )
27. Atlanta Falcons (No Way Jose)
28. New England Patriots (Tackling Dummies)
*29. New York Jets (Kruppe)
30. Chicago Bears (Grimace59)
31. San Francisco 49ers (chinawildman)
*32. Green Bay Packers (fatkid)
Round 3
Use these links for cheat sheets of how some of the major draft sites view the remaining players.
PFW
NFP National Football League Post
Draft Countdown rankings
CompetitiveEdgeFootball
Footballguy
Kudos to Bracie and chinawildman for doing a really nice job keeping everyone informed with whats going on.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Seriously. It's 11:00. :fingerstapping:
Spike
Footballguy
You have Denver listed at 4 and 14.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
They have two second-round draft selections due to the trade with Miami, I showed both second-round picks in order of selection so as to not cause confusion.This shows picks and breaks out first round selections on the top line listed with the + (plus sign) so everyone can see the first round selection and the others were taken in the second round.
* (traded pick)
+ (first round selections)
Round 2
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1. New England Patriots (Tackling Dummies)
+J. J. Watt (DE, Wisconsin), Benjamin Ijalana , OT, Villanova
Mikel Leshoure RB, Illinois
2. Buffalo Bills (Mr. Peterson)
+Cam Newton (QB, Auburn)
Cameron Heyward - DE - Ohio State
3. Cincinnati Bengals (comet909)
+Patrick Peterson (CB, LSU)
Colin Kaepernick , QB Nevada,
4. Denver Broncos (BusMan)
+Marcell Dareus (DT, Alabama)
Kyle Rudolph - TE - Notre Dame
5. Cleveland Browns (gandalas)
+Nick Fairley (DT, Auburn)
Jonathan Baldwin WR Pittsburgh
6. Arizona Cardinals (Andy Dufresne)
+Von Miller (LB, Texas A&M)
Marcus Cannon OG/OT - TCU
7. Tennessee Titans (shader)
+Blaine Gabbert (QB, Missouri)
Aaron Williams CB Texas
8. Dallas Cowboys (asn4play)
+Tyron Smith (OT, USC)
Rahim Moore FS UCLA
*9. New Orleans Saints (adrenaline )
+Muhammad Wilkerson (DL, Temple)
Tandon Doss WR Indiana
10. Houston Texans (Yellow Line is Unoffcial)
+Da'Quan Bowers (DE, Clemson)
Jabaal Sheard DE/OLB Pittsburgh
11. Minnesota Vikings (Andy Dufresne)
+Jake Locker (QB, Washington)
Stephen Paea DT Oregon St.
12. Detroit Lions (eakfootball) -
+Prince Amukamara (CB, Nebraska)
Randall Cobb (WR, Kentucky)
*13. . Pittsburgh Steelers (BigSteelThrill)
+CB Brandon Harris Miami
Marcus Gilbert (OT, Florida
14. Denver Broncos (BusMan)
+Marcell Dareus (DT, Alabama)
Kyle Rudolph - TE - Notre Dame
Marvin Austin (DT, North Carolina)
15. St. Louis Rams (Blackjack) -
+Cameron Jordan (DE, California)
Ryan Williams (RB, Virginia Tech
16. Oakland Raiders (Harjiran) -
Danny Watkins (OT, Baylor)
17. Jacksonville Jaguars (CompetitiveEdgeFootball) -
+Aldon Smith (DE, Missouri)
Torrey Smith (WR, Maryland)
*18. New York Jets (Kruppe) -
Allen Bailey (DE, Miami) 3
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers(Kirby)
+Ryan Kerrigan (DE, Purdue)
Martez Wilson (LB, Illinois)
20. New York Giants (J Andersson)
+Gabe Carimi OT, Wisconsin
Brooks Reed (OLB, Arizona)
21. Indianapolis Colts (Cipherchris)
22. Philadelphia Eagles (JetMaxx)
23. Kansas City Chiefs ( KCitons)
*24. Washington Redskins (matttyl)
25. Seattle Seahawks (bleachercreacher)
26. Baltimore Ravens (gerome )
27. Atlanta Falcons (No Way Jose)
28. New England Patriots (Tackling Dummies)
*29. New York Jets (Kruppe)
30. Chicago Bears (Grimace59)
31. San Francisco 49ers (chinawildman)
*32. Green Bay Packers (fatkid)
Cipherchris
Footballguy
Hey we were about 3 picks away from mine before I called it a night.
Although I need some suggestions because at this point it's hard to pick someone
Colts needs are OT, RB, SS and wR
Although I need some suggestions because at this point it's hard to pick someone
Colts needs are OT, RB, SS and wR
matttyl
Footballguy
Considering I'm picking 3 picks after you, I should refrain from giving input.
Grimace59
Footballguy
There's been some rummors that the Colts may go RB in the 2nd or 3rd round. On the draft recap post above has some good prospect info links.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Okay. I was a bit harsh. I can see how you'd think it would take longer than this to get through three picks.:molassesinjanuary:
Kirby
Footballguy
Leonard Hankerson
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Rodney Hudson
Cipherchris
Footballguy
Okay the next highest rated OT on my list is Jame Carpenter.
So with the 2.21 The Indianapolis Colts select OT James Carpenter from Alabama.
Projected as a RT the team my use their 2nd overall to find Ryan Diem's replacement. Diem is becoming a liability in the right side of the line. I would've liked to pick a good LT but I haven't done my research on who is the best LT left available. But with carpenter's size and speed I'm sure he can play the leftside as well. No rb or wr warrants a 2nd round pick for indy at the moment
So with the 2.21 The Indianapolis Colts select OT James Carpenter from Alabama.
Projected as a RT the team my use their 2nd overall to find Ryan Diem's replacement. Diem is becoming a liability in the right side of the line. I would've liked to pick a good LT but I haven't done my research on who is the best LT left available. But with carpenter's size and speed I'm sure he can play the leftside as well. No rb or wr warrants a 2nd round pick for indy at the moment
matttyl
Footballguy
We are 2-3 picks away from the Skins next pick, and I need to head out and may not be back for a bit. Who should I PM my picks to so that they can make it for me. Also, the Skins are always interested in trading down if anyone wants to move up and get someone (assuming it's not someone I want!!).
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
He won't be able to play the left side.But he could be a starter for years and years at the right side. I was considering trading up for him for the Cardinals.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Send it to me.
Cipherchris
Footballguy
Well atleast the colts have Diem's replacement
JetMaxx
Footballguy
With selection 2.22 the Philadelphia Eagles select Rodney Hudson, OG FSU
Despite the clear need for a talent upgrade on the OL, I certainly did not go into this draft intending to pick 2 OL with the first 2 picks. The draft easily could have gone defense/defense with the first 2 picks as I really wanted Corey Liuget in the first and Brooks Reed in the second only to miss out on both by a pick or 2.
That being said, I'm very pleased to have added Solder and Hudson to the OL mix. Hudson is a leader type that can play right away at OG with the potential of moving to C in a year or two and leading the OL for the next 10 yrs. If this played out in the real world, I would love to see what these guys could do under the tutelage of Howard Mudd.
The only other serious option for this pick Ras-I Dowling but his injuries are a concern and I like to take a sure thing with early selections. Defense hasn't been addressed via the draft but I expect FA additions on that side of the ball if the draft plays out like this.
1.23 Nate Solder, OT COL
2.22 Rodney Hudson, OG FSU
Despite the clear need for a talent upgrade on the OL, I certainly did not go into this draft intending to pick 2 OL with the first 2 picks. The draft easily could have gone defense/defense with the first 2 picks as I really wanted Corey Liuget in the first and Brooks Reed in the second only to miss out on both by a pick or 2.
That being said, I'm very pleased to have added Solder and Hudson to the OL mix. Hudson is a leader type that can play right away at OG with the potential of moving to C in a year or two and leading the OL for the next 10 yrs. If this played out in the real world, I would love to see what these guys could do under the tutelage of Howard Mudd.
The only other serious option for this pick Ras-I Dowling but his injuries are a concern and I like to take a sure thing with early selections. Defense hasn't been addressed via the draft but I expect FA additions on that side of the ball if the draft plays out like this.
1.23 Nate Solder, OT COL
2.22 Rodney Hudson, OG FSU
Blackjacks
Footballguy
I like to get feedback about my picks,
Any thoughts about Ryan Williams to the Rams with their 2nd round pick?
Any thoughts about Ryan Williams to the Rams with their 2nd round pick?
chinawildman
Footballguy
I've read the Rams are looking for a back to complement SJax, is your thinking that they're maybe looking for more of a replacement? Kind of the same situation in SF, where Gore is in the last year of his contract. They're talking about getting another back in there to complement him, but I think the writing is on the wall that the person may be more of future replacement.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Since I mocked Jordan to the Rams myself, I like that pick.I also think Williams makes sense. He'll extend Jackson's career by a year or two and keep him fresher as the season wears on.I'm not buying that they're looking for a WR.
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chinawildman
Footballguy
PM me your picks and I will post.
Tackling Dummies
Footballguy
I am and think that a RB selection slots in later on their board. Not than Williams is a poor choice, but there's (to me) a more pressing need at WR than RB right here.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
But any WR they take at this point isn't much of an upgrade over what they have - other than the fact the new guy would be healthy.I think they're going to roll with Avery, Clayton, Amendola, and Alexander.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
And if the above can stay healthy thats not bad (add in Gilyard, not ready to give up on him yet)
The McDaniels offense is about spreading it out. Amendola mirrors Welker and a healthy Alexander is your Moss (no I am not comparing the two but I am talking about how they will fill in the offense. Donnie Avery could be exceptional with Bradford's accuracy and Clayton looked great early on last year. Unless they get Julio Jones they will not draft a wr in the first 3 rounds. Actually there is still 1 WR we are looking at with our next pick.
Grimace59
Footballguy
I was so hoping he would be there at pick 2.30, I'm realizing the bears should have traded back from pick 29 when there were no tackles of value on both sides of the ball at that spot other than Austin (Too many character issues for the bears to take in the 1st). Early 2nd we could have grabbed interior line man like Hudson, or Martez Wilson who the would groom for the MLB spot. Ayers was taken because it seemed at the time to be the BPA, and could fill the open spot at the SLB, really starting the second guess the BPA for Ayers after having done more research.
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Tackling Dummies
Footballguy
Probably, but that is an underwhelming bunch and a incoming WR does not have a high bar to exceed to get significant snaps.'Andy Dufresne said:
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
How long are you planning on waiting?'KCitons said:
matttyl
Footballguy
Can this be like the time when a team didn't make their pick by the bell, so the next team ran up and made their pick?
Too early to go RB in my opinion. They've been working out a lot of RB's but I think the demise of SJax is being predicted a little too soon. I think they will go with someone small and shifty in the later rounds to be a complement. They've supposedly looked at/worked out more than a half a dozen different RB's so they will definitely be drafting one at some point, just a matter of how high.'Blackjacks said:
Grimace59
Footballguy
I can see them grabbing Quiz, or Kendal Hunter, if either slip to the 4th or 5th round.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
You could be right but I watched every game of the Rams last year and they were missing explosion type players. If I gopt Julio in the first round this probably wouldnt be the pick but going defense in the first put me very happily going after Williams.I also think that at best Jackson has 2 years left in the NFL as a starter-good player. With only a 2nd yr qb, as good as he looked, you still need to be able to run the ball. Like I stated this will help Steven prolong his career and stay healthier.I am nopt taking anything anyway from Jackson. That guy plays as hard as anyone but I saw alot of 3 yards and a cloud of dirt last year. I think Williams would help that change.Just my 2 cents though, thanks for the feedback
Cipherchris
Footballguy
Quiz, Hunter, Taiwan, or White can make good complimentary back. But SJax is also on the downside of his career. So I think Williams make sense as he is being groomed for the eventual feature role, while right now he is spelling Jax. And the Williams pick make sense, because he may not be durable, and splitting carry with Jax now will help him become a great back in the near future.
KCitons
Footballguy
sorry guys, I messed up.
I have been knee deep in grease this afternoon fixing my wifes car.
I thought I sent chinawildman a response to his trade offer, but I actually sent it to jetmaxx.
I resent to chinawildman just now.
I thought that everything would have been moving forward.
Sorry again.
I have been knee deep in grease this afternoon fixing my wifes car.
I thought I sent chinawildman a response to his trade offer, but I actually sent it to jetmaxx.
I resent to chinawildman just now.
I thought that everything would have been moving forward.
Sorry again.
chinawildman
Footballguy
I still don't show any response from you? Are you accepting the trade? If so, I'll post the trade and make my pick.
chinawildman
Footballguy
Alright KCitons, I assume by the nature of your response that you've accepted the trade and I've got a date w/ the wife so to keep this thing moving:
49ers trade 3.12 and 3.31 for the Chiefs' 2.23
49ers trade 3.12 and 3.31 for the Chiefs' 2.23
KCitons
Footballguy
yeah, thats the one. for some reason your original pm does not show up in my inbox anymore. I had to go and respond through to you through email.
I agree to the trade.
Again, my fault. things have been hectic here today. I've been watching this draft every hour for the past 3 days. It just figures, as soon as its my pick, my wifes car breaks down.
I agree to the trade.
Again, my fault. things have been hectic here today. I've been watching this draft every hour for the past 3 days. It just figures, as soon as its my pick, my wifes car breaks down.
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chinawildman
Footballguy
With the 55th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, the San Francisco 49ers select:
Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas
Look, before the 49er lynch mob gets fired up, hear me out. Mallett made a trip to visit the 49ers this week, and before then I had pretty much written him off due to the tremendous amount of negative press he gets for his "character issues". So when I found out the niners were interested in him, I did the usual googling of scouting reports and youtube clips…
"Just watched some Blaine Gabbert highlights, Mallet looks like Dan Marino compared to that guy" - video response in one of the ids.
And I agree wholeheartedly. It's hard to put into words, but Mallett just looks so natural playing quarterback, whereas Newton and Gabbert look stiff, manufactured. He actually LOOKS LIKE an NFL quarterback already. He puts tremendous touch on his deep passes and fades, while still able to zip passes into tight windows. All the stuff about Mallett being slow, immobile… who cares? He looks pretty darn good throwing on the run, buying time, and evading pressure in the pocket.
Then I found these 2 articles. The 2nd of which is a real gem if you have the patience to read through it (I believe a similar article was done on Cam Newton posted in another thread).
[*]Why Mallett works in Harbaugh's WCO
[*]In-depth (real long) analysis of Ryan Mallett on the field and off
First link is about why Mallett would fit Harbaugh's offense. The second article is a study into his "character issues" followed by a huge video compilation and analysis of Mallett's game, most of which I agree with. The short of it is that all ex-teammates, coaches vouch for Mallett as a student of the game, a hard worker, with supreme confidence. The scouting analysis concluded that he has very good accuracy coupled with great pocket awareness. If you've got the time, it's a great read.
There you have it, Ryan Mallett to Julio Jones in 2012. Watch out NFC West.
Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas
Look, before the 49er lynch mob gets fired up, hear me out. Mallett made a trip to visit the 49ers this week, and before then I had pretty much written him off due to the tremendous amount of negative press he gets for his "character issues". So when I found out the niners were interested in him, I did the usual googling of scouting reports and youtube clips…
"Just watched some Blaine Gabbert highlights, Mallet looks like Dan Marino compared to that guy" - video response in one of the ids.
And I agree wholeheartedly. It's hard to put into words, but Mallett just looks so natural playing quarterback, whereas Newton and Gabbert look stiff, manufactured. He actually LOOKS LIKE an NFL quarterback already. He puts tremendous touch on his deep passes and fades, while still able to zip passes into tight windows. All the stuff about Mallett being slow, immobile… who cares? He looks pretty darn good throwing on the run, buying time, and evading pressure in the pocket.
Then I found these 2 articles. The 2nd of which is a real gem if you have the patience to read through it (I believe a similar article was done on Cam Newton posted in another thread).
[*]Why Mallett works in Harbaugh's WCO
[*]In-depth (real long) analysis of Ryan Mallett on the field and off
First link is about why Mallett would fit Harbaugh's offense. The second article is a study into his "character issues" followed by a huge video compilation and analysis of Mallett's game, most of which I agree with. The short of it is that all ex-teammates, coaches vouch for Mallett as a student of the game, a hard worker, with supreme confidence. The scouting analysis concluded that he has very good accuracy coupled with great pocket awareness. If you've got the time, it's a great read.
There you have it, Ryan Mallett to Julio Jones in 2012. Watch out NFC West.
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'Blackjacks said:
to Andy and Blackjacks. I'd be on board with taking Julio Jones in the first round, but not a complementary receiver in round 2. I've been seeing a certain Miami receiver in that spot a lot, and it makes me cringe.I like the Ryan Williams pick. You could argue that there will still be interesting RB prospects on the board in rounds 3-4, but Williams was probably the best value on the board (or one of them).
