Bob Lee Swagger
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Yeah, but I can't watch another season of this garbage.
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Shark Pool mock draft - three rounds. Draft started (1 Viewer)
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Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Ridgelake
Footballguy
Dallas considered Ocho Cinco. But the salary cap implications coupled with the potential for a colossal meltdown when combined with TO just was too great of a risk.
Instead, Dallas chose to "roll over" the extra first rounder for another year, picking up a mid-second for their trouble. Dallas still has #28 and now 2 second rounders. Having 28 available really provided the freedom to make this move. Dallas will still get an excellent player at 28. There are about 6-7 that I have rated about equal right now.
Instead, Dallas chose to "roll over" the extra first rounder for another year, picking up a mid-second for their trouble. Dallas still has #28 and now 2 second rounders. Having 28 available really provided the freedom to make this move. Dallas will still get an excellent player at 28. There are about 6-7 that I have rated about equal right now.
yellowdog
Footballguy
FUBAR
Footballguy
Not at all, just got called away from the desk.Andy's right, and Chicago is playing like Cleveland this year.1.22 Chicago: Brian Brohm, QB LouisvilleI think Bears fans would be pleased with Otah and Brohm. We'll have to sign turner in FA and make some other moves.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
yeah. what's going on? he made the trade and was here for about 15 minutes with no pick.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
This would be tempting as hell for the Titans, who need a WR. The deal is pick #24 for Ocho Cinco? Any TEN homers want to weigh in on this?
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
I'm willing to listen to offers for my early second rounder.
Fill needs, please. We have a lot of them.
Fill needs, please. We have a lot of them.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
Totally sound logic from top to bottom. 85 is not a good fit for Dallas. I do hope Jerry shows interest to raise the price on the Skins/Eagles. Good deal Ridge. The board didn't really fall the Cowboys way and based on that, making this trade is well done. Hopefully the player we discussed falls to 28.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
DeShawn Jackson would be a better option - and could help with KR/PR which they'll need if they are pushing for 2008 with their current team.....
yellowdog
Footballguy
This would be tempting as hell for the Titans, who need a WR. The deal is pick #24 for Ocho Cinco? Any TEN homers want to weigh in on this?
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
damn.Oh well, chalking this up to fun and nothing even remotely close to reality. Way too many trades.....including 1st rounders in 2009. It's like playing with monopoly money.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
With pick 1.23 the Pittsburgh Steelers select...
Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College
Steelers need line help in the worst way and while a DE like Philip Merling is tantalizing, the OL needs the most work, especially if Faneca and Starks both bolt. Cherilus is a seasoned tackle whose stock would be higher if not for a lackluster senior year. However, I firnmly believe his struggles were due to the move from RT to LT - he simply doesn't have the lateral quickness to handle speed rushers and as such, would be a liability in pass coverage on the left side. However, he fits the mold of a Steelers RT to a T, he's an absolute beast in run blocking, can hold his own on the right edge, and his weaknesses really exist only in technique. He's a plug-and-play RT who can start from day 1, and that's what Pittsburgh needs. Then, they can move Colon inside to G where he belongs. We could be looking at this line in '08 : LT - Marvel Smith LG - Chris Kemeoatu/Sean Mahan C - Kendall Simmons RG - Willie Colon RT - Gosder Cherilus
Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College
Steelers need line help in the worst way and while a DE like Philip Merling is tantalizing, the OL needs the most work, especially if Faneca and Starks both bolt. Cherilus is a seasoned tackle whose stock would be higher if not for a lackluster senior year. However, I firnmly believe his struggles were due to the move from RT to LT - he simply doesn't have the lateral quickness to handle speed rushers and as such, would be a liability in pass coverage on the left side. However, he fits the mold of a Steelers RT to a T, he's an absolute beast in run blocking, can hold his own on the right edge, and his weaknesses really exist only in technique. He's a plug-and-play RT who can start from day 1, and that's what Pittsburgh needs. Then, they can move Colon inside to G where he belongs. We could be looking at this line in '08 : LT - Marvel Smith LG - Chris Kemeoatu/Sean Mahan C - Kendall Simmons RG - Willie Colon RT - Gosder Cherilus
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I agree with you, except for the part where the exact same thing happened last year.
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Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Well, I was all set to select Philip Merling for Tennessee here, but now Ocho Cinco is available for this pick. I think Tennessee would have to pull the trigger here, but I want others to weigh in, as this is getting a little Madden-esque.
yellowdog
Footballguy
He told Parcells to call him. Young is better than his prospects in Miami. Why does 85 do what he does?
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I'm tending to agree here. Can we not have Johnson traded for purposes of this draft?I'd like to see what you think the Titans would take with that pick.
yellowdog
Footballguy
85>>>>>Deion Branch
Ridgelake
Footballguy
That seems like a very sensible thing on all counts.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
I'm not a big fan of this WR clas at all. Plus, when was the last time the Eagles burned a 1st on a WR (Fred-Ex) is, the Eagles value three positions over all else: DE, OT and CB, and they go out of their way to try to fill those positions via the 1st round of the draft.Now I could see taking a WR in the next round....
yellowdog
Footballguy
OK, I'll keep the loud mouth on my team.
harrycarey
Footballguy
I agree trading picks is fine, but i don't know about all the player trades...
As for Ocho to Tennessee, I don't think his attitude is a fit for them.. especially after pacman ( i know chad isn't that bad, but still)
As for Ocho to Tennessee, I don't think his attitude is a fit for them.. especially after pacman ( i know chad isn't that bad, but still)
This situation is more like Moss than Branch.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Mel Kiper said last night that he thinks there'll be FIVE first round WRs. I think he's crazy.I don't think there's a lot of first round talent at the position, but there's a TON of great second and third round guys.
greenf7cat
Footballguy
This is going by alot faster today opposed to yesterday. Thanks for helping my day at work go by faster fellas!! much obliged
yellowdog
Footballguy
I'll have to disagree with that assessment. Moss had a terrible run in Oakland where he all but QUIT. Ocho may be a pain in the ###, but he plays/works hard.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
OK, then.... the Titans select..
Philip Merling, DE, Clemson
I know most prognosticators are thinking WR here, but hey - if they wanted a WR, they could get Chad Johnson at this spot (in this mock). I would have considered a playmaker like DeSean Jackson, but honestly, I am not 100% sold on Manningham or Sweed being a huge upgrade from what they have now. On the other hand, they have free agent situations all over the DL, which is the facet of this team that's kept them in the playoff mix year after year. Haynesworth would be a huge loss, but assuming they re-sign him to a massive deal, that leaves very little money with which to re-sign Antwan Odom (or Travis LaBoy,) meaning that they would be perilously thin, and without a real starter at RE. Problem solved with the addition of Merling, who is an underrated end (at least for another month or so) that could likely play right away, meaning they could sacrifice Odom to re-sign Hanyesworth and still have very little (if any) dropoff on the D-line.
Philip Merling, DE, Clemson
I know most prognosticators are thinking WR here, but hey - if they wanted a WR, they could get Chad Johnson at this spot (in this mock). I would have considered a playmaker like DeSean Jackson, but honestly, I am not 100% sold on Manningham or Sweed being a huge upgrade from what they have now. On the other hand, they have free agent situations all over the DL, which is the facet of this team that's kept them in the playoff mix year after year. Haynesworth would be a huge loss, but assuming they re-sign him to a massive deal, that leaves very little money with which to re-sign Antwan Odom (or Travis LaBoy,) meaning that they would be perilously thin, and without a real starter at RE. Problem solved with the addition of Merling, who is an underrated end (at least for another month or so) that could likely play right away, meaning they could sacrifice Odom to re-sign Hanyesworth and still have very little (if any) dropoff on the D-line.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I kind of opened Pandora's box with that Jason Taylor trade. But that was for a third rounder and is pretty reasonable considering the circumstances.Talking about trading first rounders, though, is a bit more unrealistic, IMO.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Ideally this is a moot point as they get a FA WR.However, one of the overlooked needs is at KR/PR - which Jackson should be looked at FIRST, rather than as a pure WR.
In a perfect world they get a DB who can return kicks in Round 1, but I'm not seeing that so far....
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Again, I think you guys are doing really well. I've liked every pick so far.
Seattle's selection:
1.25 Jonathon Stewart RB Oregon
Stewart or Mendenhall would fit here but I'm going with the guy that should be most familiar to Seattle fans. A little faster than Mendenhall with slightly better hands. The seal is off the RB's in round 1!
1.25 Jonathon Stewart RB Oregon
Stewart or Mendenhall would fit here but I'm going with the guy that should be most familiar to Seattle fans. A little faster than Mendenhall with slightly better hands. The seal is off the RB's in round 1!
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Andy Dufresne
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Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
FantasyTraders is up for the Jaguars pick. I'll take it if he's not here shortly.
EDIT: I see he's here.
EDIT: I see he's here.
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FUBAR
Footballguy
sorry man, at work and got called away. these things happen
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
The Jags Select:
KENTWAN BALMER - DT - NORTH CAROLINA
Need '07 to not be a fluke! Should immediately contribute to our declining defensive interior.
KENTWAN BALMER - DT - NORTH CAROLINA
Need '07 to not be a fluke! Should immediately contribute to our declining defensive interior.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Excuse me? This trade is almost EXACTLY what could, and has, happened in the NFL (check Cleveland / Dallas last year). Unlike the 1st + for 85 and some other player deals.
Ridge, if we don't get to you at 28 could you PM someone (Andy?) with some Dallas selections so we can at least get out of the first round?
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
That's who I was going with.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
With him gone and the top 5 OT's off the board, I will consider a tradeAny offers?
Ridgelake
Footballguy
I'm sure we can figure something out.
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
Sweet. I'd be extremely pleased if this is how it actually fell. Glad I didn't have to choose between Merling and Balmer.That's who I was going with.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Who the Chargers should take:
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