We'll see how it goes. We went without a clock last time and it wasn't too much of a problem. If it really bogs down, we'll institute something.Is it safe to assume a 30 minute time limit during office hours only?
If you want, you can take the 49ers.Dang, get busy with meetings and POOF! This this is GONE. Well, don't have time to do it anyway. It'll be fun to read the followup.
I actually think that's the guy that Al Davis will take.We know who Al Davis will take here, but I think the guy is overrated.
Instead I'll take best player available
1-4 Oakland - Vernon Gholston DE/LB
AgreedI actually think that's the guy that Al Davis will take.We know who Al Davis will take here, but I think the guy is overrated.
Instead I'll take best player available
1-4 Oakland - Vernon Gholston DE/LB
I don't think we're in that much of a hurry. If KH picks, I am around but in and out on the hour. So NE and BAL will pick tonight if NYJ picks.I'm out until 11ish eastern... if you don't want to wait.. it won't hurt my feelings.
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Looking good1. Miami (Gatorman) - Chris Long2. St. Louis (Blackjacks) - Jake Long3. Atlanta (Andy Dufresne) - Glenn Dorsey4. Oakland (John Madden's Lunchbox) - Vernon Gholston5. Kansas City (RBM) -- Matt Ryan6. New York Jets (KellysHeroes) -- Darren McFadden7. New England (Chaos Commish) - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB8. Baltimore (Chaos Commish) - Branden Albert, OL
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Kirby is OTC1. Miami (Gatorman) - Chris Long
2. St. Louis (Blackjacks) - Jake Long
3. Atlanta (Andy Dufresne) - Glenn Dorsey
4. Oakland (John Madden's Lunchbox) - Vernon Gholston
5. Kansas City (RBM) -- Matt Ryan
6. New York Jets (KellysHeroes) -- Darren McFadden
7. New England (Chaos Commish) - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB
8. Baltimore (Chaos Commish) - Branden Albert, OL
9. Cincinnati (yellowdog)- Sedrick Ellis - DT - USC
This is the best possible outcome for the Bengals. Best player available at the biggest position of need.
10. New Orleans (Kirby)
11. Buffalo (Getinthemix)
12. Denver (Almas_4th_child)
13. Carolina (travdogg)
14. Chicago (Deranged Hermit)
15. Detroit (FUBAR)
16. Arizona (Getinthemix)
17. Minnesota (footballman_696969)
18. Houston (coolnerd)
19. Philadelphia (Jeff Pasquino)
20. Tampa Bay (travdogg)
21. Washington (John Madden's Lunchbox)
22. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)
23. Pittsburgh (Evilgrin72)
24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent)
25. Seattle (Buddyball2k3)
26. Jacksonville (Mr. Brownstone)
27. San Diego (bicycle_seat_sniffer)
28. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)
29. San Francisco (Andy Dufresne)
30. Green Bay (Almas_4th_child)
31. New York Giants (footballman_696969)
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I agree with this. If it went this way, I think either NE or BAL would have the leverage to trade down for a team looking for a DT for the 4-3. New Orleans could jump up. Cincy will have to consider it. Buffalo, Denver, Carolina... the run of 4-3 Ds following NE and BAL make predicting a trade up for Ellis one of the drafts more likely scenarios.9. Cincinnati (yellowdog)- Sedrick Ellis - DT - USC
This is the best possible outcome for the Bengals. Best player available at the biggest position of need.
CC,I thought you were not that enamored with DRC? I think he should be the 1st db taken but I dont think he will.1. Miami (Gatorman) - Chris Long
2. St. Louis (Blackjacks) - Jake Long
3. Atlanta (Andy Dufresne) - Glenn Dorsey
4. Oakland (John Madden's Lunchbox) - Vernon Gholston
5. Kansas City (RBM) -- Matt Ryan
6. New York Jets (KellysHeroes) -- Darren McFadden
7. New England (Chaos Commish) - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB
As good as NE is they suddenly have a list of needs. The loss of corners in FA has them looking closely at the top prospects. Another corner is mentioned more often, but in the end they go with the best all around athlete and playmaker.
8. Baltimore (Chaos Commish) - Branden Albert, OL
The Ravens could address a few positions with this pick, but a determination to seek the best available player brings the fast rising OL aboard. Albert can play anywhere on the OL but center. Corner is a pressing need, but Ozzie has a player on his board he expects to get later.
9. Cincinnati (yellowdog)
10. New Orleans (Kirby)
11. Buffalo (Getinthemix)
12. Denver (Almas_4th_child)
13. Carolina (travdogg)
14. Chicago (Deranged Hermit)
15. Detroit (FUBAR)
16. Arizona (Getinthemix)
17. Minnesota (footballman_696969)
18. Houston (coolnerd)
19. Philadelphia (Jeff Pasquino)
20. Tampa Bay (travdogg)
21. Washington (John Madden's Lunchbox)
22. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)
23. Pittsburgh (Evilgrin72)
24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent)
25. Seattle (Buddyball2k3)
26. Jacksonville (Mr. Brownstone)
27. San Diego (bicycle_seat_sniffer)
28. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)
29. San Francisco (Andy Dufresne)
30. Green Bay (Almas_4th_child)
31. New York Giants (footballman_696969)
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Not enamored? No that hasn't been my problem. What I have said is that I don't know enough about him because I have never seen him play sans Senior Bowl. I am perfectly willing to believe the hype considering where the hype is coming from (solid sources)). I have seen the rest of these corners quite a bit, and Cromartie sounds like the best of them to me.CC,
I thought you were not that enamored with DRC? I think he should be the 1st db taken but I dont think he will.
You can finish off the Pats if you want. I'm happy with one team.Since you think the DRC should be 1st DB off the board, the Pats should work for you even though you don't think he will be 1st. I prefer to mock what I think teams should do than what I think might happen, myself. Thus, the Albert pick to BAL.argghh...... I hate i miss the sign up for this. I'll catch the next one.
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Kirby said:1. Miami (Gatorman) - Chris Long
2. St. Louis (Blackjacks) - Jake Long
3. Atlanta (Andy Dufresne) - Glenn Dorsey
4. Oakland (John Madden's Lunchbox) - Vernon Gholston
5. Kansas City (RBM) -- Matt Ryan
6. New York Jets (KellysHeroes) -- Darren McFadden
7. New England (Chaos Commish) - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB
8. Baltimore (Chaos Commish) - Branden Albert, OL
9. Cincinnati (yellowdog)- Sedrick Ellis - DT - USC
10. New Orleans (Kirby)- Leodis McKelvin - CB
Gay is an upgrade over what they had, but he's not the answer.
11. Buffalo (Getinthemix) Derrick Harvey - DE - UF
I don't believe the Bills reach for a WR here and instead get one of the best pass rushers in the draft. Very solid pick here to help the D.
12. Denver (Almas_4th_child)
13. Carolina (travdogg)
14. Chicago (Deranged Hermit)
15. Detroit (FUBAR)
16. Arizona (Getinthemix)
17. Minnesota (footballman_696969)
18. Houston (coolnerd)
19. Philadelphia (Jeff Pasquino)
20. Tampa Bay (travdogg)
21. Washington (John Madden's Lunchbox)
22. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)
23. Pittsburgh (Evilgrin72)
24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent)
25. Seattle (Buddyball2k3)
26. Jacksonville (Mr. Brownstone)
27. San Diego (bicycle_seat_sniffer)
28. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)
29. San Francisco (Andy Dufresne)
30. Green Bay (Almas_4th_child)
31. New York Giants (footballman_696969)
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As a Bills fan, I would be upset with this pick. We have no need for a DE this early in the draft. The Bills need to come out of this draft grabbing a CB and a WR in the first two rounds (first 3 rounds at worst, but we need to make sure that player in the 3rd can start for us).Kirby said:1. Miami (Gatorman) - Chris Long
2. St. Louis (Blackjacks) - Jake Long
3. Atlanta (Andy Dufresne) - Glenn Dorsey
4. Oakland (John Madden's Lunchbox) - Vernon Gholston
5. Kansas City (RBM) -- Matt Ryan
6. New York Jets (KellysHeroes) -- Darren McFadden
7. New England (Chaos Commish) - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB
8. Baltimore (Chaos Commish) - Branden Albert, OL
9. Cincinnati (yellowdog)- Sedrick Ellis - DT - USC
10. New Orleans (Kirby)- Leodis McKelvin - CB
Gay is an upgrade over what they had, but he's not the answer.
11. Buffalo (Getinthemix) Derrick Harvey - DE - UF
I don't believe the Bills reach for a WR here and instead get one of the best pass rushers in the draft. Very solid pick here to help the D.
12. Denver (Almas_4th_child)
13. Carolina (travdogg)
14. Chicago (Deranged Hermit)
15. Detroit (FUBAR)
16. Arizona (Getinthemix)
17. Minnesota (footballman_696969)
18. Houston (coolnerd)
19. Philadelphia (Jeff Pasquino)
20. Tampa Bay (travdogg)
21. Washington (John Madden's Lunchbox)
22. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)
23. Pittsburgh (Evilgrin72)
24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent)
25. Seattle (Buddyball2k3)
26. Jacksonville (Mr. Brownstone)
27. San Diego (bicycle_seat_sniffer)
28. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)
29. San Francisco (Andy Dufresne)
30. Green Bay (Almas_4th_child)
31. New York Giants (footballman_696969)
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With the D the Bills play, they do not need to get a "shutdown" corner. An upgrade over Kelsay and some depth never hurts.As a Bills fan, I would be upset with this pick. We have no need for a DE this early in the draft. The Bills need to come out of this draft grabbing a CB and a WR in the first two rounds (first 3 rounds at worst, but we need to make sure that player in the 3rd can start for us).Kirby said:1. Miami (Gatorman) - Chris Long
2. St. Louis (Blackjacks) - Jake Long
3. Atlanta (Andy Dufresne) - Glenn Dorsey
4. Oakland (John Madden's Lunchbox) - Vernon Gholston
5. Kansas City (RBM) -- Matt Ryan
6. New York Jets (KellysHeroes) -- Darren McFadden
7. New England (Chaos Commish) - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB
8. Baltimore (Chaos Commish) - Branden Albert, OL
9. Cincinnati (yellowdog)- Sedrick Ellis - DT - USC
10. New Orleans (Kirby)- Leodis McKelvin - CB
Gay is an upgrade over what they had, but he's not the answer.
11. Buffalo (Getinthemix) Derrick Harvey - DE - UF
I don't believe the Bills reach for a WR here and instead get one of the best pass rushers in the draft. Very solid pick here to help the D.
12. Denver (Almas_4th_child)
13. Carolina (travdogg)
14. Chicago (Deranged Hermit)
15. Detroit (FUBAR)
16. Arizona (Getinthemix)
17. Minnesota (footballman_696969)
18. Houston (coolnerd)
19. Philadelphia (Jeff Pasquino)
20. Tampa Bay (travdogg)
21. Washington (John Madden's Lunchbox)
22. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)
23. Pittsburgh (Evilgrin72)
24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent)
25. Seattle (Buddyball2k3)
26. Jacksonville (Mr. Brownstone)
27. San Diego (bicycle_seat_sniffer)
28. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)
29. San Francisco (Andy Dufresne)
30. Green Bay (Almas_4th_child)
31. New York Giants (footballman_696969)
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Who's our #2 CB? Whoever you choose, do you think they're good enough to help us win games? And now that Denny is back the Bills can keep Kelsay fresh and go back to our rotation that works just fine. If nothing else, Stroud in the middle will make our DE's look that much better.With the D the Bills play, they do not need to get a "shutdown" corner. An upgrade over Kelsay and some depth never hurts.As a Bills fan, I would be upset with this pick. We have no need for a DE this early in the draft. The Bills need to come out of this draft grabbing a CB and a WR in the first two rounds (first 3 rounds at worst, but we need to make sure that player in the 3rd can start for us).Kirby said:1. Miami (Gatorman) - Chris Long
2. St. Louis (Blackjacks) - Jake Long
3. Atlanta (Andy Dufresne) - Glenn Dorsey
4. Oakland (John Madden's Lunchbox) - Vernon Gholston
5. Kansas City (RBM) -- Matt Ryan
6. New York Jets (KellysHeroes) -- Darren McFadden
7. New England (Chaos Commish) - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB
8. Baltimore (Chaos Commish) - Branden Albert, OL
9. Cincinnati (yellowdog)- Sedrick Ellis - DT - USC
10. New Orleans (Kirby)- Leodis McKelvin - CB
Gay is an upgrade over what they had, but he's not the answer.
11. Buffalo (Getinthemix) Derrick Harvey - DE - UF
I don't believe the Bills reach for a WR here and instead get one of the best pass rushers in the draft. Very solid pick here to help the D.
12. Denver (Almas_4th_child)
13. Carolina (travdogg)
14. Chicago (Deranged Hermit)
15. Detroit (FUBAR)
16. Arizona (Getinthemix)
17. Minnesota (footballman_696969)
18. Houston (coolnerd)
19. Philadelphia (Jeff Pasquino)
20. Tampa Bay (travdogg)
21. Washington (John Madden's Lunchbox)
22. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)
23. Pittsburgh (Evilgrin72)
24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent)
25. Seattle (Buddyball2k3)
26. Jacksonville (Mr. Brownstone)
27. San Diego (bicycle_seat_sniffer)
28. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)
29. San Francisco (Andy Dufresne)
30. Green Bay (Almas_4th_child)
31. New York Giants (footballman_696969)
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I let mjohnell know that he's going to pick for Tampa. Please PM him when its his pick.- Surprised to see that it's DRC that CC thinks the Pats will pick. Not surprised it's a corner.- I'm not sure that offensive line is the concern most think it is for the Ravens. No denying that it's a Newsome type pick though.- Buffalo isn't a destination I've heard Harvey going to, but I can see it.Hey guys, I confirmed it with travdogg and he is cool with me drafting for Tampa since he had two teams. That ok with everyone?
I like this pick, and have mocked Clady to the Broncos myself, but I wonder if they may skip the LT route and give Ryan Harris a try.Denver is a team with a surprising number of holes. They need o-line help, a more stable option at RB, another WR, and help all over the defense (except for the corners).12. Denver (Almas_4th_child) - Ryan Clady - LT Boise State
The Denver running game needs to be restored and with an athletic Clady it can take the right first step.
I haven't taken one yet. But I'm prepared to.I've got my pick ready to go, but need to step out for an hour or so.anyone take a BM?

Are you a Carolina homer? I ask because I was reading the other day that they might prefer a beefier guy like Otah to Williams, even though they've been kicking the tires of CW quite a bit.13. Carolina (travdogg)- Chris Williams - OT Vanderbilt, would have gone with either Clady or Harvey if they had fallen. Williams will likely start at guard or Wharton will move and Williams will play tackle, either way upgrading the o-line was a top goal and this pick should help achieve it.
I think they've been looking at Otah just in case Williams doesn't fall past Denver. I'm a Tampa homer but I follow everyone in the division pretty closely.Are you a Carolina homer? I ask because I was reading the other day that they might prefer a beefier guy like Otah to Williams, even though they've been kicking the tires of CW quite a bit.13. Carolina (travdogg)- Chris Williams - OT Vanderbilt, would have gone with either Clady or Harvey if they had fallen. Williams will likely start at guard or Wharton will move and Williams will play tackle, either way upgrading the o-line was a top goal and this pick should help achieve it.
The Pats and Ravens both had him as the #4 OL on their boards.Clady is the steal of the draft so far.

Can you expound on your thinking with the Ravens pick. I think with Gaither, they have their LT of the future. Would the Ravens take a guard that high?The Pats and Ravens both had him as the #4 OL on their boards.Clady is the steal of the draft so far.![]()
I think Otah is the right pick for the Bears. His postseason hasn't been all that great, but that's due to his recovering from a high ankle sprain suffered late in the season. I agree that he fits the Bears scheme.FUBAR doesn't like the Lions taking Mendenhall. I do. I can't see them rolling with Tatum Bell and Calhoun as their primary backs. If he's there, he almost HAS to be the pick.1. Miami (Gatorman) - Chris Long
2. St. Louis (Blackjacks) - Jake Long
3. Atlanta (Andy Dufresne) - Glenn Dorsey
4. Oakland (John Madden's Lunchbox) - Vernon Gholston
5. Kansas City (RBM) -- Matt Ryan
6. New York Jets (KellysHeroes) -- Darren McFadden
7. New England (Chaos Commish) - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB
8. Baltimore (Chaos Commish) - Branden Albert, OL
9. Cincinnati (yellowdog)- Sedrick Ellis - DT - USC
10. New Orleans (Kirby)- Leodis McKelvin - CB Troy
11. Buffalo (Getinthemix) - Derrick Harvey - DE Florida
12. Denver (Almas_4th_child) - Ryan Clady - LT Boise State
13. Carolina (travdogg)- Chris Williams - OT Vanderbilt
14. Chicago (Deranged Hermit)- Jeff Otah OT Pitt
15. Detroit (FUBAR) - Rashard Mendenhall RB, Illinois
Not the pick I would take, but this is Matt Millen. They need a RB, and while I'd wait to round 2, Mendenhall should be a workhorse for years.
16. Arizona (Getinthemix)
17. Minnesota (footballman_696969)
18. Houston (coolnerd)
19. Philadelphia (Jeff Pasquino)
20. Tampa Bay (travdogg)
21. Washington (John Madden's Lunchbox)
22. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)
23. Pittsburgh (Evilgrin72)
24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent)
25. Seattle (Buddyball2k3)
26. Jacksonville (Mr. Brownstone)
27. San Diego (bicycle_seat_sniffer)
28. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)
29. San Francisco (Andy Dufresne)
30. Green Bay (Almas_4th_child)
31. New York Giants (footballman_696969)