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Shark Pool Mock Draft - V2.0. 3 rounds! (1 Viewer)

Any thoughts or comments on this pick?Wasn't easy at all.
I would figure that if you take a receiver, Jackson or Devin would also be a boon to the special teams. I don't really follow the Eagles but I thought that's been a sticking point the last few years.
It was a Freddie Mitchell moment for me. j/k JP. I like Sweed more than most and figured you were debating WRs. It is the most difficult debate this year. I think Thomas goes first in the end because of his combination of skills.
 
It doesn't matter to me. I just asked because I think it's possible to have too many teams in a draft. Too many choices coming from one brain.
I agree. Especially when the brain is mine. I just took them to move it along. If anyone wants to take the Bills, they're welcome to it.
I'll take the Bills. I know nothing about them so it will be fun to get a crash course on this team.
 
It doesn't matter to me. I just asked because I think it's possible to have too many teams in a draft. Too many choices coming from one brain.
I agree. Especially when the brain is mine. I just took them to move it along. If anyone wants to take the Bills, they're welcome to it.
I'll take the Bills. You mind?
Wow. You JUST beat me to it. I think it's obvious you should probably take them based on where you make your home.
 
It doesn't matter to me. I just asked because I think it's possible to have too many teams in a draft. Too many choices coming from one brain.
I agree. Especially when the brain is mine. I just took them to move it along. If anyone wants to take the Bills, they're welcome to it.
I'll take the Bills. You mind?
Wow. You JUST beat me to it. I think it's obvious you should probably take them based on where you make your home.
If someone wants to finish the Pats, that's fine with me. I said as much earlier in the thread.
 
It doesn't matter to me. I just asked because I think it's possible to have too many teams in a draft. Too many choices coming from one brain.
I agree. Especially when the brain is mine. I just took them to move it along. If anyone wants to take the Bills, they're welcome to it.
I'll take the Bills. You mind?
Wow. You JUST beat me to it. I think it's obvious you should probably take them based on where you make your home.
You sure you don't mind? I had a half-day today and have nothing for the remainder of the day. I have some players in mind already. Thanks.
 
Andy Reid is sitting on Joe Banner right now
Banner = :missing:
Reid = :lmao:
Jeffrey Lurie has picked up the phone and broken the tie.Despite their best efforts to acquire a true #1 WR in the off-season, they haven't. So they're going for broke this season and hopefully giving McNabb another weapon that he's been missing.

Given that no huge values at O-Line or DT or DB fell, and some others will be there later, the guess here is the #1 WR on their Draft Board. That's anyone's guess. I'll go with:

Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
Any thoughts or comments on this pick?Wasn't easy at all.
I don't have a problem with Sweed in this spot. WR is certainly a need and you can make a a case for Sweed being the best WR available. That said, add me to the Phillips supporters. I think his value is a little more in line with the draft position and it's a position of concern if not need for the Eagles.
 
It doesn't matter to me. I just asked because I think it's possible to have too many teams in a draft. Too many choices coming from one brain.
I agree. Especially when the brain is mine. I just took them to move it along. If anyone wants to take the Bills, they're welcome to it.
I'll take the Bills. You mind?
Wow. You JUST beat me to it. I think it's obvious you should probably take them based on where you make your home.
You sure you don't mind? I had a half-day today and have nothing for the remainder of the day. I have some players in mind already. Thanks.
I'm good.......already picking for Tennessee.
 
The vikings need another defensive end to maintain that top defensive line. I would have loved Derrick Harvey at #17, but I didn't think he would fall. Going with a WR was also another consideration, but I didn't feel their is any clear cut #1 WR in this deep class.

 
1. Miami (Gatorman) - Chris Long

2. St. Louis (Blackjacks) - Jake Long

3. Atlanta (Andy Dufresne) - Glenn Dorsey

4. Oakland (John Madden's Lunchbox) - Vernon Gholston

5. Kansas City (RBM) -- Matt Ryan

6. New York Jets (KellysHeroes) -- Darren McFadden

7. New England (Chaos Commish) - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB

8. Baltimore (Chaos Commish) - Branden Albert, OL

9. Cincinnati (yellowdog)- Sedrick Ellis - DT - USC

10. New Orleans (Kirby)- Leodis McKelvin - CB Troy

11. Buffalo (Getinthemix) - Derrick Harvey - DE Florida

12. Denver (Almas_4th_child) - Ryan Clady - LT Boise State

13. Carolina (travdogg)- Chris Williams - OT Vanderbilt

14. Chicago (Deranged Hermit)- Jeff Otah OT Pitt

15. Detroit (FUBAR) - Rashard Mendenhall RB, Illinois

16. Arizona (Getinthemix) - Mike Jenkins - CB, USF

17. Minnesota (footballman_696969) - Phillip Merling

18. Houston (coolnerd) - Keith Rivers

19. Philadelphia (Jeff Pasquino) - Limas Sweed

20. Tampa Bay (mjohnell) - Malcolm Kelly

21. Washington (John Madden's Lunchbox) - James Hardy WR

22. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)

23. Pittsburgh (Evilgrin72)

24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent)

25. Seattle (Buddyball2k3)

26. Jacksonville (Mr. Brownstone)

27. San Diego (bicycle_seat_sniffer)

28. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)

29. San Francisco (Andy Dufresne)

30. Green Bay (Almas_4th_child)

31. New York Giants (footballman_696969)
WR RunI’m probably jumping a bit early on this guy, but Washington need a WR and this guys a mountain. 6ft-7 screams red zone. He has the pace to outrun most defenses and has a great leap and good hands.

I’ll take the chance

 
WR RunI’m probably jumping a bit early on this guy, but Washington need a WR and this guys a mountain. 6ft-7 screams red zone. He has the pace to outrun most defenses and has a great leap and good hands.I’ll take the chance
Hardy's no reach there. His stock is all over the place right now and there's no reason to think he wouldn't go to the Skins.
 
1. Miami (Gatorman) - Chris Long

2. St. Louis (Blackjacks) - Jake Long

3. Atlanta (Andy Dufresne) - Glenn Dorsey

4. Oakland (John Madden's Lunchbox) - Vernon Gholston

5. Kansas City (RBM) -- Matt Ryan

6. New York Jets (KellysHeroes) -- Darren McFadden

7. New England (Chaos Commish) - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB

8. Baltimore (Chaos Commish) - Branden Albert, OL

9. Cincinnati (yellowdog)- Sedrick Ellis - DT - USC

10. New Orleans (Kirby)- Leodis McKelvin - CB Troy

11. Buffalo (Getinthemix) - Derrick Harvey - DE Florida

12. Denver (Almas_4th_child) - Ryan Clady - LT Boise State

13. Carolina (travdogg)- Chris Williams - OT Vanderbilt

14. Chicago (Deranged Hermit)- Jeff Otah OT Pitt

15. Detroit (FUBAR) - Rashard Mendenhall RB, Illinois

16. Arizona (Getinthemix) - Mike Jenkins - CB, USF

17. Minnesota (footballman_696969) - Phillip Merling

18. Houston (coolnerd) - Keith Rivers

19. Philadelphia (Jeff Pasquino) - Limas Sweed

20. Tampa Bay (mjohnell) - Malcolm Kelly

21. Washington (John Madden's Lunchbox) - James Hardy WR

22. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap) - Jonathan Stewart, RB - Oregon

23. Pittsburgh (Evilgrin72)

24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent)

25. Seattle (Buddyball2k3)

26. Jacksonville (Mr. Brownstone)

27. San Diego (bicycle_seat_sniffer)

28. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)

29. San Francisco (Andy Dufresne)

30. Green Bay (Almas_4th_child)

31. New York Giants (footballman_696969)
I still don't get the rush to take a back for the Cowboys. Why is Barber so underrated?
 
1. Miami (Gatorman) - Chris Long

2. St. Louis (Blackjacks) - Jake Long

3. Atlanta (Andy Dufresne) - Glenn Dorsey

4. Oakland (John Madden's Lunchbox) - Vernon Gholston

5. Kansas City (RBM) -- Matt Ryan

6. New York Jets (KellysHeroes) -- Darren McFadden

7. New England (Chaos Commish) - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB

8. Baltimore (Chaos Commish) - Branden Albert, OL

9. Cincinnati (yellowdog)- Sedrick Ellis - DT - USC

10. New Orleans (Kirby)- Leodis McKelvin - CB Troy

11. Buffalo (Getinthemix) - Derrick Harvey - DE Florida

12. Denver (Almas_4th_child) - Ryan Clady - LT Boise State

13. Carolina (travdogg)- Chris Williams - OT Vanderbilt

14. Chicago (Deranged Hermit)- Jeff Otah OT Pitt

15. Detroit (FUBAR) - Rashard Mendenhall RB, Illinois

16. Arizona (Getinthemix) - Mike Jenkins - CB, USF

17. Minnesota (footballman_696969) - Phillip Merling

18. Houston (coolnerd) - Keith Rivers

19. Philadelphia (Jeff Pasquino) - Limas Sweed

20. Tampa Bay (mjohnell) - Malcolm Kelly

21. Washington (John Madden's Lunchbox) - James Hardy WR

22. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap) - Jonathan Stewart, RB - Oregon

23. Pittsburgh (Evilgrin72)

24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent)

25. Seattle (Buddyball2k3)

26. Jacksonville (Mr. Brownstone)

27. San Diego (bicycle_seat_sniffer)

28. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)

29. San Francisco (Andy Dufresne)

30. Green Bay (Almas_4th_child)

31. New York Giants (footballman_696969)
I still don't get the rush to take a back for the Cowboys. Why is Barber so underrated?
If anything, take a guy to compliment Barber. Stewart is too similar I think
 
1. Miami (Gatorman) - Chris Long

2. St. Louis (Blackjacks) - Jake Long

3. Atlanta (Andy Dufresne) - Glenn Dorsey

4. Oakland (John Madden's Lunchbox) - Vernon Gholston

5. Kansas City (RBM) -- Matt Ryan

6. New York Jets (KellysHeroes) -- Darren McFadden

7. New England (Chaos Commish) - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB

8. Baltimore (Chaos Commish) - Branden Albert, OL

9. Cincinnati (yellowdog)- Sedrick Ellis - DT - USC

10. New Orleans (Kirby)- Leodis McKelvin - CB Troy

11. Buffalo (Getinthemix) - Derrick Harvey - DE Florida

12. Denver (Almas_4th_child) - Ryan Clady - LT Boise State

13. Carolina (travdogg)- Chris Williams - OT Vanderbilt

14. Chicago (Deranged Hermit)- Jeff Otah OT Pitt

15. Detroit (FUBAR) - Rashard Mendenhall RB, Illinois

16. Arizona (Getinthemix) - Mike Jenkins - CB, USF

17. Minnesota (footballman_696969) - Phillip Merling

18. Houston (coolnerd) - Keith Rivers

19. Philadelphia (Jeff Pasquino) - Limas Sweed

20. Tampa Bay (mjohnell) - Malcolm Kelly

21. Washington (John Madden's Lunchbox) - James Hardy WR

22. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap) - Jonathan Stewart, RB - Oregon

23. Pittsburgh (Evilgrin72)

24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent)

25. Seattle (Buddyball2k3)

26. Jacksonville (Mr. Brownstone)

27. San Diego (bicycle_seat_sniffer)

28. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)

29. San Francisco (Andy Dufresne)

30. Green Bay (Almas_4th_child)

31. New York Giants (footballman_696969)
I still don't get the rush to take a back for the Cowboys. Why is Barber so underrated?
If anything, take a guy to compliment Barber. Stewart is too similar I think
Yeh but he is the best RB on board. That would be like thunder and thunder....with stewart having speed as well. Think of how they could wear down a defense.They are down on Barber b/c of all the hits he takes.

 
1. Miami (Gatorman) - Chris Long

2. St. Louis (Blackjacks) - Jake Long

3. Atlanta (Andy Dufresne) - Glenn Dorsey

4. Oakland (John Madden's Lunchbox) - Vernon Gholston

5. Kansas City (RBM) -- Matt Ryan

6. New York Jets (KellysHeroes) -- Darren McFadden

7. New England (Chaos Commish) - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB

8. Baltimore (Chaos Commish) - Branden Albert, OL

9. Cincinnati (yellowdog)- Sedrick Ellis - DT - USC

10. New Orleans (Kirby)- Leodis McKelvin - CB Troy

11. Buffalo (Getinthemix) - Derrick Harvey - DE Florida

12. Denver (Almas_4th_child) - Ryan Clady - LT Boise State

13. Carolina (travdogg)- Chris Williams - OT Vanderbilt

14. Chicago (Deranged Hermit)- Jeff Otah OT Pitt

15. Detroit (FUBAR) - Rashard Mendenhall RB, Illinois

16. Arizona (Getinthemix) - Mike Jenkins - CB, USF

17. Minnesota (footballman_696969) - Phillip Merling

18. Houston (coolnerd) - Keith Rivers

19. Philadelphia (Jeff Pasquino) - Limas Sweed

20. Tampa Bay (mjohnell) - Malcolm Kelly

21. Washington (John Madden's Lunchbox) - James Hardy WR

22. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap) - Jonathan Stewart, RB - Oregon

23. Pittsburgh (Evilgrin72) - Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College

24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent)

25. Seattle (Buddyball2k3)

26. Jacksonville (Mr. Brownstone)

27. San Diego (bicycle_seat_sniffer)

28. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)

29. San Francisco (Andy Dufresne)

30. Green Bay (Almas_4th_child)

31. New York Giants (footballman_696969)

It had to be done. I came thisclose to taking Devin Thomas here, who I think would be a terrific fit in their system and would solve the problems of having a replacement for Hines Ward and their lack of a return man in one fell swoop. He's the best WR in this draft, IMO, in the right place, and his great route-running, good hands, physical game, and ability to RAC would have made him a good #3 right away and a terrific complement to Santonio down the road.

OL is the more pressing need, though. Cherilus' stock is lower than it should be, IMO, because he struggled at LT his senior year and he doesn't have the foot speed to handle the top edge-rushers. However, he was a beast at RT for 3 years, and had he not moved to LT, would be a higher-rated prospect. I know Bloom likes a guy with a higher floor, but Cherilus is a road-grader in the running game, and a guy who can start from day 1, which is exactly what the Steelers need. Some also think he could move inside and be effective at G, meaning the Steelers can move people around and see what works best to replace the hole Faneca left. I don't really care that Gosder doesn't project to LT because Marvel Smith is already there, and I firmly believe that the transition tag put on Max Starks means the Steelers want him to replace Smith at LT next season. Starks was far better at LT than he was at RT, which would leave a hole at RT that neither Colon nor Essex is going to be able to fill like Cherilus would.

I would have taken a WR, DE, or CB here and waited on OL until round 2 (there are a couple chestnuts that could be there in the 50s) but I didn't like the value at CB (Talib, Cason) or DE (Balmer, Campbell in the 3-4)

 
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1. Miami (Gatorman) - Chris Long

2. St. Louis (Blackjacks) - Jake Long

3. Atlanta (Andy Dufresne) - Glenn Dorsey

4. Oakland (John Madden's Lunchbox) - Vernon Gholston

5. Kansas City (RBM) -- Matt Ryan

6. New York Jets (KellysHeroes) -- Darren McFadden

7. New England (Chaos Commish) - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB

8. Baltimore (Chaos Commish) - Branden Albert, OL

9. Cincinnati (yellowdog)- Sedrick Ellis - DT - USC

10. New Orleans (Kirby)- Leodis McKelvin - CB Troy

11. Buffalo (Getinthemix) - Derrick Harvey - DE Florida

12. Denver (Almas_4th_child) - Ryan Clady - LT Boise State

13. Carolina (travdogg)- Chris Williams - OT Vanderbilt

14. Chicago (Deranged Hermit)- Jeff Otah OT Pitt

15. Detroit (FUBAR) - Rashard Mendenhall RB, Illinois

16. Arizona (Getinthemix) - Mike Jenkins - CB, USF

17. Minnesota (footballman_696969) - Phillip Merling

18. Houston (coolnerd) - Keith Rivers

19. Philadelphia (Jeff Pasquino)

20. Tampa Bay (travdogg)

21. Washington (John Madden's Lunchbox)

22. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)

23. Pittsburgh (Evilgrin72)

24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent)

25. Seattle (Buddyball2k3)

26. Jacksonville (Mr. Brownstone)

27. San Diego (bicycle_seat_sniffer)

28. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)

29. San Francisco (Andy Dufresne)

30. Green Bay (Almas_4th_child)

31. New York Giants (footballman_696969)
I love the Jenkins pick to Arizona. They've moved Rolle to FS so there's a definite need there.The Vikings and Texans guys will be back later today to comment. I'm okay with Merling to the Vikes even with the hernia issue. He's not the elite pass rusher the Vikes need, but then there aren't any of them left at this point in the draft.

This is the second mock that I've seen someone have the Texans taking Keith Rivers. Do they have their eye on him? I think he'd be an excellent choice as the Texans are slowly building what could be a dominant defense. The o-line is still a wreck though.
I can't speak for coolnerd, but I think Rivers is a BPA type pick. I think a LT or a passrushing DE are the targets but the way this mock played out there isn't a lot of value there at 18. Rivers is projected as a top 10 pick and the top OLB in this draft. OLB isn't listed as a major need for the Texans, but that's only because there are so many needs at a lot of spots.Pairing up Rivers with pro-bowler ILB DeMeco Ryans would be a very nice combination.

As for the O'line, they surrendered only 22 sacks last year! 6th best in the league, so there has been some very improved play there and Gibbs should help strenghten it further. A franchise LT to replace Salaam is needed though since he is only passable and is 32 years old this year. Also, I question how much of the improved play was due to combinations of getting rid or Carr and running an offense that required very quick timing and release with short patterns. There wasn't a lot of times where Sage or Schaub could just hang back in the pocket and try to throw it deep.

 
I like the Steelers pick. They need o-line help in the worst way, which is amazing for a contender.
The part that sucks is that every guy I zero in on for them goes through the roof afterwards. I was calling for Otah months ago when he was still considered a 2nd-3rd round prospect, now I've seen mocks putting him as high as #5. Then, the talk switched to Albert and I didn't know all that much about him, his being an underclassman, and my not having seen much VA football. I went nuts researching the guy and realized he'd be a perfect fit, and probably a better pick than Otah. Now, his stock has taken off to where he's gone from a late first-early second round guy to a possible top-10 pick. :unsure:
 
1. Miami (Gatorman) - Chris Long

2. St. Louis (Blackjacks) - Jake Long

3. Atlanta (Andy Dufresne) - Glenn Dorsey

4. Oakland (John Madden's Lunchbox) - Vernon Gholston

5. Kansas City (RBM) -- Matt Ryan

6. New York Jets (KellysHeroes) -- Darren McFadden

7. New England (Chaos Commish) - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB

8. Baltimore (Chaos Commish) - Branden Albert, OL

9. Cincinnati (yellowdog)- Sedrick Ellis - DT - USC

10. New Orleans (Kirby)- Leodis McKelvin - CB Troy

11. Buffalo (Getinthemix) - Derrick Harvey - DE Florida

12. Denver (Almas_4th_child) - Ryan Clady - LT Boise State

13. Carolina (travdogg)- Chris Williams - OT Vanderbilt

14. Chicago (Deranged Hermit)- Jeff Otah OT Pitt

15. Detroit (FUBAR) - Rashard Mendenhall RB, Illinois

16. Arizona (Getinthemix) - Mike Jenkins - CB, USF

17. Minnesota (footballman_696969) - Phillip Merling

18. Houston (coolnerd) - Keith Rivers

19. Philadelphia (Jeff Pasquino) - Limas Sweed

20. Tampa Bay (mjohnell) - Malcolm Kelly

21. Washington (John Madden's Lunchbox) - James Hardy WR

22. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap) - Jonathan Stewart, RB - Oregon

23. Pittsburgh (Evilgrin72) - Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College

24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent) - Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina

Tennessee decides against taking the risk with Devin Thomas, but instead, takes Haynesworth's new protege who can learn side-by-side with one of the best. With these 2 DT's, Tennessee would shut down opposing running games and create a push up the middle against the pass. The Titans decided against getting caught up in a WR run in this draft.

25. Seattle (Buddyball2k3)

26. Jacksonville (Mr. Brownstone)

27. San Diego (bicycle_seat_sniffer)

28. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)

29. San Francisco (Andy Dufresne)

30. Green Bay (Almas_4th_child)

31. New York Giants (footballman_696969)

 
1. Miami (Gatorman) - Chris Long2. St. Louis (Blackjacks) - Jake Long3. Atlanta (Andy Dufresne) - Glenn Dorsey4. Oakland (John Madden's Lunchbox) - Vernon Gholston5. Kansas City (RBM) -- Matt Ryan6. New York Jets (KellysHeroes) -- Darren McFadden7. New England (Chaos Commish) - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB8. Baltimore (Chaos Commish) - Branden Albert, OL9. Cincinnati (yellowdog)- Sedrick Ellis - DT - USC10. New Orleans (Kirby)- Leodis McKelvin - CB Troy11. Buffalo (Getinthemix) - Derrick Harvey - DE Florida12. Denver (Almas_4th_child) - Ryan Clady - LT Boise State13. Carolina (travdogg)- Chris Williams - OT Vanderbilt14. Chicago (Deranged Hermit)- Jeff Otah OT Pitt15. Detroit (FUBAR) - Rashard Mendenhall RB, Illinois 16. Arizona (Getinthemix) - Mike Jenkins - CB, USF17. Minnesota (footballman_696969) - Phillip Merling18. Houston (coolnerd) - Keith Rivers19. Philadelphia (Jeff Pasquino) - Limas Sweed20. Tampa Bay (mjohnell) - Malcolm Kelly21. Washington (John Madden's Lunchbox) - James Hardy WR22. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap) - Jonathan Stewart, RB - Oregon23. Pittsburgh (Evilgrin72) - Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent) - Kentwan Balmer, DT, North CarolinaTennessee decides against taking the risk with Devin Thomas, but instead, takes Haynesworth's new protege who can learn side-by-side with one of the best. With these 2 DT's, Tennessee would shut down opposing running games and create a push up the middle against the pass. The Titans decided against getting caught up in a WR run in this draft.25. Seattle (Buddyball2k3)26. Jacksonville (Mr. Brownstone)27. San Diego (bicycle_seat_sniffer)28. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)29. San Francisco (Andy Dufresne)30. Green Bay (Almas_4th_child)31. New York Giants (footballman_696969)
Interesting, I thought for sure you would take Thomas.
 
1. Miami (Gatorman) - Chris Long2. St. Louis (Blackjacks) - Jake Long3. Atlanta (Andy Dufresne) - Glenn Dorsey4. Oakland (John Madden's Lunchbox) - Vernon Gholston5. Kansas City (RBM) -- Matt Ryan6. New York Jets (KellysHeroes) -- Darren McFadden7. New England (Chaos Commish) - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB8. Baltimore (Chaos Commish) - Branden Albert, OL9. Cincinnati (yellowdog)- Sedrick Ellis - DT - USC10. New Orleans (Kirby)- Leodis McKelvin - CB Troy11. Buffalo (Getinthemix) - Derrick Harvey - DE Florida12. Denver (Almas_4th_child) - Ryan Clady - LT Boise State13. Carolina (travdogg)- Chris Williams - OT Vanderbilt14. Chicago (Deranged Hermit)- Jeff Otah OT Pitt15. Detroit (FUBAR) - Rashard Mendenhall RB, Illinois 16. Arizona (Getinthemix) - Mike Jenkins - CB, USF17. Minnesota (footballman_696969) - Phillip Merling18. Houston (coolnerd) - Keith Rivers19. Philadelphia (Jeff Pasquino) - Limas Sweed20. Tampa Bay (mjohnell) - Malcolm Kelly21. Washington (John Madden's Lunchbox) - James Hardy WR22. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap) - Jonathan Stewart, RB - Oregon23. Pittsburgh (Evilgrin72) - Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent) - Kentwan Balmer, DT, North CarolinaTennessee decides against taking the risk with Devin Thomas, but instead, takes Haynesworth's new protege who can learn side-by-side with one of the best. With these 2 DT's, Tennessee would shut down opposing running games and create a push up the middle against the pass. The Titans decided against getting caught up in a WR run in this draft.25. Seattle (Buddyball2k3)26. Jacksonville (Mr. Brownstone)27. San Diego (bicycle_seat_sniffer)28. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)29. San Francisco (Andy Dufresne)30. Green Bay (Almas_4th_child)31. New York Giants (footballman_696969)
Interesting, I thought for sure you would take Thomas.
I'm tired of everyone locking Tennessee to a WR in the 1st and I'm not a huge fan of this WR class, especially at the top. Tennessee never picks a WR in the 1st round and the times the Titans struggled most last year was when Haynesworth was hurt. It's a move that makes sense imo.
 
I still don't get the rush to take a back for the Cowboys. Why is Barber so underrated?
If anything, take a guy to compliment Barber. Stewart is too similar I think
:bs: Exactly my thinking.Heading to lunch. Be back in an hour.
I was ecstatic to see Stewart available with my pick; everyone has their own opinions, but I think he is the best overall back in the class, based on his size/speed ratio and his ability to break tackles. Why would I take a lesser back (Jones, Charles...) because he would complement Barber better? Let's say you're the Rams and have Stephen Jackson. You have the choice to select either Reggie Bush or Adrian Peterson in the upcoming draft. Do you take Bush because his running style and skill set furthers from Jackson more than that of Peterson; I don't.I'm also a huge Marion Barber fan, but there is something going on if in the last 3 years, he has only had 4 20-carry games with Julius Jones as his main competition.If McKelvin or DRC had been available, I would have taken either over Stewart. I do feel like I got the BPA with this pick.
 
22. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap) - Jonathan Stewart, RB - Oregon

23. Pittsburgh (Evilgrin72)

24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent)

25. Seattle (Buddyball2k3)

26. Jacksonville (Mr. Brownstone)

27. San Diego (bicycle_seat_sniffer)

28. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)

29. San Francisco (Andy Dufresne)

30. Green Bay (Almas_4th_child)

31. New York Giants (footballman_696969)
I still don't get the rush to take a back for the Cowboys. Why is Barber so underrated?
As a Cowboys homer I would be ok with this pick but a bit bummed that we didn't go with Kenny Phillips here. He is my "wish" pick for #22. That said Stewart looks to be a great back and they can get a db nex... I hope.
 
I still don't get the rush to take a back for the Cowboys. Why is Barber so underrated?
If anything, take a guy to compliment Barber. Stewart is too similar I think
:shrug: Exactly my thinking.Heading to lunch. Be back in an hour.
I was ecstatic to see Stewart available with my pick; everyone has their own opinions, but I think he is the best overall back in the class, based on his size/speed ratio and his ability to break tackles. Why would I take a lesser back (Jones, Charles...) because he would complement Barber better? Let's say you're the Rams and have Stephen Jackson. You have the choice to select either Reggie Bush or Adrian Peterson in the upcoming draft. Do you take Bush because his running style and skill set furthers from Jackson more than that of Peterson; I don't.I'm also a huge Marion Barber fan, but there is something going on if in the last 3 years, he has only had 4 20-carry games with Julius Jones as his main competition.If McKelvin or DRC had been available, I would have taken either over Stewart. I do feel like I got the BPA with this pick.
Stew is a solid pick. His talent warrants a first roudn grade, unlike the remaining backs. Definitely could have argued Kenny Philips or Devon Thomas. For those who say he's Thunder and Thunder when paired with Barber, you're right. And that's exactly what Dallas wants. They've stated that they want guys like Barber who can run inside, outside, catch, and, perhaps most importantly, BLOCK. Stew has the size to pick up the blitzing LB and keep Romo alive. This facet of the game is ultra critical to Dallas.I will say that I'm personally worried about Stew's toe. The guy has a significant injury history beyond just the toe as well. I'd be happy to get Stew, but he does worry me.
 
I still don't get the rush to take a back for the Cowboys. Why is Barber so underrated?
If anything, take a guy to compliment Barber. Stewart is too similar I think
:shrug: Exactly my thinking.Heading to lunch. Be back in an hour.
I honestly would be shocked if Stewart got past Zona...
I love the Stewart pick for Dallas. They have 1 RB on the roster right now. They are a championship caliber team and need the running game to stay strong. I am not interested in some later round maybe who ,ight carry the weight for Barber until he healed if he went down. They are not championship caliber without him. He is best used in committee anyway. With Stewart, they barely miss a beat without Barber and are that much stronger with him. They don't need roster depth as much as they need a baller to go with Barber, though they could consider two RBs in this draft for depth. Stewart also represents BaP, which is what Dallas should do with the first of two first rounders if someone like this falls in an area of need.
 
24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent) - Kentwan Balmer, DT, North CarolinaTennessee decides against taking the risk with Devin Thomas, but instead, takes Haynesworth's new protege who can learn side-by-side with one of the best. With these 2 DT's, Tennessee would shut down opposing running games and create a push up the middle against the pass. The Titans decided against getting caught up in a WR run in this draft.
Interesting, I thought for sure you would take Thomas.
I'm tired of everyone locking Tennessee to a WR in the 1st and I'm not a huge fan of this WR class, especially at the top. Tennessee never picks a WR in the 1st round and the times the Titans struggled most last year was when Haynesworth was hurt. It's a move that makes sense imo.
Love the pick, although DE is possible as well. VDB/Balmer/Haynesworth/Kearse makes for a nice front. I'll be shocked if the Titans don't take a WR in the 2nd, but I like this pick here.
 
Okay. Pick one of four players for the Seahawks:

DeSean Jackson (My pick. Seattle loves the small/quick type)

Devin Thomas

Trevor Laws

Dustin Keller

 
i think key is that marion barber has a violent running style & is a lot more likely to go down for extended time from injury, than a back less collision prone, like LT...

DAL has legit super bowl aspirations, & if barber did go down, getting a complementary RB like felix jones could catch them with their pants down...

stewart could be good enough, that if he is pressed into action & can adequately replace barber, he could be good enough to be the difference between DAL going far in the playoffs or not... ironically, stewart is faster than some of the change of pace RBs that might be advocated here... it seemingly could only be a positive, that a RB, instead of having a limited skill set, is more well rounded, & can not only run (& run inside AND outside), but also block & catch... he could better serve role of complement (they WILL want to spell barber), PLUS starter insurance in the not so unlikely event that it comes to that...

stewart would be an outstanding choice, if he checks out medically (than again, he might not be there if it weren't for that very question)...

 
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1. Miami (Gatorman) - Chris Long

2. St. Louis (Blackjacks) - Jake Long

3. Atlanta (Andy Dufresne) - Glenn Dorsey

4. Oakland (John Madden's Lunchbox) - Vernon Gholston

5. Kansas City (RBM) -- Matt Ryan

6. New York Jets (KellysHeroes) -- Darren McFadden

7. New England (Chaos Commish) - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB

8. Baltimore (Chaos Commish) - Branden Albert, OL

9. Cincinnati (yellowdog)- Sedrick Ellis - DT - USC

10. New Orleans (Kirby)- Leodis McKelvin - CB Troy

11. Buffalo (Getinthemix) - Derrick Harvey - DE Florida

12. Denver (Almas_4th_child) - Ryan Clady - LT Boise State

13. Carolina (travdogg)- Chris Williams - OT Vanderbilt

14. Chicago (Deranged Hermit)- Jeff Otah OT Pitt

15. Detroit (FUBAR) - Rashard Mendenhall RB, Illinois

16. Arizona (Getinthemix) - Mike Jenkins - CB, USF

17. Minnesota (footballman_696969) - Phillip Merling

18. Houston (coolnerd) - Keith Rivers

19. Philadelphia (Jeff Pasquino) - Limas Sweed

20. Tampa Bay (mjohnell) - Malcolm Kelly

21. Washington (John Madden's Lunchbox) - James Hardy WR

22. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap) - Jonathan Stewart, RB - Oregon

23. Pittsburgh (Evilgrin72) - Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College

24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent) - Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina

25. Seattle (Buddyball2k3) - Devin Thomas, WR - Michigan State - The Seahawks have only used a draft pick on 2 Offensive skilled players in the past 5 years with their first 3 picks. With Balmer off the board the Seahawks take the #1 WR on their board.

26. Jacksonville (Mr. Brownstone)

27. San Diego (bicycle_seat_sniffer)

28. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)

29. San Francisco (Andy Dufresne)

30. Green Bay (Almas_4th_child)

31. New York Giants (footballman_696969)

 
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Damn, worst case scenario for the Jags. I'd advocate Groves over Campbell any day of the week but I don't really feel confident in either pick. I'd definately prefer acquiring Jason Taylor for the right price, but Miami will leverage more and more as the draft approaches. He'd be the centerpiece of our draft and allow any rookies a chance to develop a full season and learn from a pro's pro in Spicer and Taylor.

He'd also allow us to pursue a BAP approach without Mortagaing one of our first 4 picks for a DE. I don't think a Round1 DE will be a good idea in the long run. I'd rather go DB/LB/DT for our first pick and/or second pick and grab talent instead of reaching.

But thats for Brownstone to decide :confused:

 
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1. Miami (Gatorman) - Chris Long

2. St. Louis (Blackjacks) - Jake Long

3. Atlanta (Andy Dufresne) - Glenn Dorsey

4. Oakland (John Madden's Lunchbox) - Vernon Gholston

5. Kansas City (RBM) -- Matt Ryan

6. New York Jets (KellysHeroes) -- Darren McFadden

7. New England (Chaos Commish) - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB

8. Baltimore (Chaos Commish) - Branden Albert, OL

9. Cincinnati (yellowdog)- Sedrick Ellis - DT - USC

10. New Orleans (Kirby)- Leodis McKelvin - CB Troy

11. Buffalo (Getinthemix) - Derrick Harvey - DE Florida

12. Denver (Almas_4th_child) - Ryan Clady - LT Boise State

13. Carolina (travdogg)- Chris Williams - OT Vanderbilt

14. Chicago (Deranged Hermit)- Jeff Otah OT Pitt

15. Detroit (FUBAR) - Rashard Mendenhall RB, Illinois

16. Arizona (Getinthemix) - Mike Jenkins - CB, USF

17. Minnesota (footballman_696969) - Phillip Merling

18. Houston (coolnerd) - Keith Rivers

19. Philadelphia (Jeff Pasquino) - Limas Sweed

20. Tampa Bay (mjohnell) - Malcolm Kelly

21. Washington (John Madden's Lunchbox) - James Hardy WR

22. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap) - Jonathan Stewart, RB - Oregon

23. Pittsburgh (Evilgrin72) - Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College

24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent) - Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina

25. Seattle (Buddyball2k3) - Devin Thomas, WR

26. Jacksonville (Mr. Brownstone)- Calais Campbell, DE- University of Miami. The Jaguars must improve at the defensive end position and look to do that with the addition of Campbell. Jacksonville is hoping the his down year during his last year in school was a fluke. They see the potential that lies there and are banking on the fact that they can get the most out of Calais.

27. San Diego (bicycle_seat_sniffer)

28. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)

29. San Francisco (Andy Dufresne)

30. Green Bay (Almas_4th_child)

31. New York Giants (footballman_696969)
 
I just don't see how Calais Campbell can be considered a first rounder anymore. He had a down year and has shown nothing in the post season other than that he's slow.

 
Buckna said:
Andy Dufresne said:
Andy Dufresne said:
1. Miami (Gatorman) - Chris Long

2. St. Louis (Blackjacks) - Jake Long

3. Atlanta (Andy Dufresne) - Glenn Dorsey

4. Oakland (John Madden's Lunchbox) - Vernon Gholston

5. Kansas City (RBM) -- Matt Ryan

6. New York Jets (KellysHeroes) -- Darren McFadden

7. New England (Chaos Commish) - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB

8. Baltimore (Chaos Commish) - Branden Albert, OL

9. Cincinnati (yellowdog)- Sedrick Ellis - DT - USC

10. New Orleans (Kirby)- Leodis McKelvin - CB Troy

11. Buffalo (Getinthemix) - Derrick Harvey - DE Florida

12. Denver (Almas_4th_child) - Ryan Clady - LT Boise State

13. Carolina (travdogg)- Chris Williams - OT Vanderbilt

14. Chicago (Deranged Hermit)- Jeff Otah OT Pitt

15. Detroit (FUBAR) - Rashard Mendenhall RB, Illinois

16. Arizona (Getinthemix) - Mike Jenkins - CB, USF

17. Minnesota (footballman_696969) - Phillip Merling

18. Houston (coolnerd) - Keith Rivers

19. Philadelphia (Jeff Pasquino)

20. Tampa Bay (travdogg)

21. Washington (John Madden's Lunchbox)

22. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)

23. Pittsburgh (Evilgrin72)

24. Tennessee (scrumptrulescent)

25. Seattle (Buddyball2k3)

26. Jacksonville (Mr. Brownstone)

27. San Diego (bicycle_seat_sniffer)

28. Dallas (LarryAllen'sJockstrap)

29. San Francisco (Andy Dufresne)

30. Green Bay (Almas_4th_child)

31. New York Giants (footballman_696969)
I love the Jenkins pick to Arizona. They've moved Rolle to FS so there's a definite need there.The Vikings and Texans guys will be back later today to comment. I'm okay with Merling to the Vikes even with the hernia issue. He's not the elite pass rusher the Vikes need, but then there aren't any of them left at this point in the draft.

This is the second mock that I've seen someone have the Texans taking Keith Rivers. Do they have their eye on him? I think he'd be an excellent choice as the Texans are slowly building what could be a dominant defense. The o-line is still a wreck though.
I can't speak for coolnerd, but I think Rivers is a BPA type pick. I think a LT or a passrushing DE are the targets but the way this mock played out there isn't a lot of value there at 18. Rivers is projected as a top 10 pick and the top OLB in this draft. OLB isn't listed as a major need for the Texans, but that's only because there are so many needs at a lot of spots.Pairing up Rivers with pro-bowler ILB DeMeco Ryans would be a very nice combination.

As for the O'line, they surrendered only 22 sacks last year! 6th best in the league, so there has been some very improved play there and Gibbs should help strenghten it further. A franchise LT to replace Salaam is needed though since he is only passable and is 32 years old this year. Also, I question how much of the improved play was due to combinations of getting rid or Carr and running an offense that required very quick timing and release with short patterns. There wasn't a lot of times where Sage or Schaub could just hang back in the pocket and try to throw it deep.
Honestly, I have nothing to add to this analysis, becasue it captures my thoughts exactly. In this case GregR, you could and did speak for me.
 
Damn, worst case scenario for the Jags. I'd advocate Groves over Campbell any day of the week but I don't really feel confident in either pick. I'd definately prefer acquiring Jason Taylor for the right price, but Miami will leverage more and more as the draft approaches. He'd be the centerpiece of our draft and allow any rookies a chance to develop a full season and learn from a pro's pro in Spicer and Taylor.He'd also allow us to pursue a BAP approach without Mortagaing one of our first 4 picks for a DE. I don't think a Round1 DE will be a good idea in the long run. I'd rather go DB/LB/DT for our first pick and/or second pick and grab talent instead of reaching.But thats for Brownstone to decide :lmao:
I actually would prefer to draft Groves or Talib here. But I am not sold on the Jaguars claim that they will draft the best available player in round 1. I've seen it in round 2 and up. After weiging input from 147, Campbell is who I think they take.
 

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