Sherman is a tool (1 Viewer)

[biju]

We're now talking about the racial implications of the word "thug".

Richard Sherman wins again.

Sherman has lost in so many ways. He tarnished his image, embarrassed himself on national television, detracted from his teammates, and from a game standpoint put a huge target on Seattle's back and moved a large population of neutral fans into Denver's corner. He may have gained more notoriety and endorsement money in the short term but in the long run his brand, his causes, and is legacy will suffer. People dont want to associate themselves with someone so polarizing. And now he is trying to say that people describing him as a thug are racist? Great way to turn non-racists into racists.

Winner? Maybe on the football field, but even there the legitimacy of that accomplishment is called into question (steroids). In the game of life the guy appears to be a complete loser. A loudmouthed, insecure, ego-maniac. Once again, can't wait to see karma pay him a visit next Sunday.

This is so completely incorrect in so many ways it's either fishing or you are delusional. Either way--Bravo!

 

[Hooper31]

Guy told me today that Sherman sacked Atlanta on his way to Savannah. What about the children?

 

[Hang 10]

Oh look here comes the 12th man to defend their boy!

 

[Neofight]

We're now talking about the racial implications of the word "thug".

Richard Sherman wins again.

Sherman has lost in so many ways. He tarnished his image, embarrassed himself on national television, detracted from his teammates, and from a game standpoint put a huge target on Seattle's back and moved a large population of neutral fans into Denver's corner. He may have gained more notoriety and endorsement money in the short term but in the long run his brand, his causes, and is legacy will suffer. People dont want to associate themselves with someone so polarizing. And now he is trying to say that people describing him as a thug are racist? Great way to turn non-racists into racists.Winner? Maybe on the football field, but even there the legitimacy of that accomplishment is called into question (steroids). In the game of life the guy appears to be a complete loser. A loudmouthed, insecure, ego-maniac. Once again, can't wait to see karma pay him a visit next Sunday.

Feeling racist?

 

[Hoss Style]

This is just my opinion.

I grew up at about the same time as rap music was growing up. When I was very young, say mid to late 80's (very early 90's), I wouldn't have associated the word "thug" with blacks at all. I would have associated it with things that were popular at the time - the mafia. Goodfellas was released, Scarface and the 2nd and 3rd Godfather movies were out or coming out. If you said "thug" back then, then mobsters pretty much came to mind, at least in my neck of the woods.

Rap music reflected this facination with the mob, and starting in the early 90's rap artists were calling themselves "thugs" with regularity. They even used the term in the titles of their songs - "Thug Life" was an album from a group started by Tupac, he also had a song called "Thugz 4 Life" (might be off on the spelling there), Trick Daddy had a song called "I'm a Thug" which was a huge hit, getting tons of radio play. These are just ones I remember. Tons of examples exist.

So the word "thug", by much of the generation speaking out now (media included) is associated with people of color, particularly rappers from the inner cities. Bearing this in mind, I do believe many are using it in a racist way - but I don't believe it's a substitute for the n-word. I think it's just another term people are using because they think it's hurtful and they want to attack the target of their anger and cause pain. "Thug" is a way they can do that in public forums (like the media) and not get the backlash of harsh racial epithets.

The word "thug" is definately not a n-word substitute for lots of us, though. I work on and off with a guy who served time in a Max Security Prison - Florence. He was deep in the Mexican Mafia and was one of the biggest drug runners in Albuquerque before he got sent here. He's half Mexican and half Italian, and guess what he's got tattoed across his forearm? The word "THUG". I was chatting with him a few hours ago about this very topic, and he told me "Everyone's a thug in prison. Mexican's use it, Italians, Whites, Blacks - everyone."

So although some may be using it in a racist way, in their own minds - please don't assume that everyone thinks the same. Many of us out here look at the word for what it is: noun - a violent person, especially a criminal.

None of which Richard Sherman is, as far as I know. The word thug shouldn't be used in it's slang form or it's literal form to describe him.

 

[General Tso]

We're now talking about the racial implications of the word "thug".

Richard Sherman wins again.

Sherman has lost in so many ways. He tarnished his image, embarrassed himself on national television, detracted from his teammates, and from a game standpoint put a huge target on Seattle's back and moved a large population of neutral fans into Denver's corner. He may have gained more notoriety and endorsement money in the short term but in the long run his brand, his causes, and is legacy will suffer. People dont want to associate themselves with someone so polarizing. And now he is trying to say that people describing him as a thug are racist? Great way to turn non-racists into racists.Winner? Maybe on the football field, but even there the legitimacy of that accomplishment is called into question (steroids). In the game of life the guy appears to be a complete loser. A loudmouthed, insecure, ego-maniac. Once again, can't wait to see karma pay him a visit next Sunday.

Feeling racist?

Nope. Sherman is the only racist here. Turning the word thug into a racist remark is race baiting at its finest.

 

[Hoss Style]

We're now talking about the racial implications of the word "thug".

Richard Sherman wins again.

Sherman has lost in so many ways. He tarnished his image, embarrassed himself on national television, detracted from his teammates, and from a game standpoint put a huge target on Seattle's back and moved a large population of neutral fans into Denver's corner. He may have gained more notoriety and endorsement money in the short term but in the long run his brand, his causes, and is legacy will suffer. People dont want to associate themselves with someone so polarizing. And now he is trying to say that people describing him as a thug are racist? Great way to turn non-racists into racists.Winner? Maybe on the football field, but even there the legitimacy of that accomplishment is called into question (steroids). In the game of life the guy appears to be a complete loser. A loudmouthed, insecure, ego-maniac. Once again, can't wait to see karma pay him a visit next Sunday.

Feeling racist?

Nope. Sherman is the only racist here. Turning the word thug into a racist remark is race baiting at its finest.

Just want to clarify my earlier comment on this - although I think many are using the word "thug" in a racist way, I don't think everyone is. I also think Sherman made a slick move to shine the light on those using it harshly, maybe even racially.

I don't blame him because I'm not in his shoes. I don't know what he's going through. Why shouldn't he bring it up if he thinks some in the media are using it unfairly? Just because I don't agree with Sherman's postgame choke sign doesn't mean I think he shouldn't defend himself and point out ignorance coming his way.

Again, I think it was a smart move to fight back the volitile waves coming his way.

 

[General Tso]

So the word "thug", by much of the generation speaking out now (media included) is associated with people of color, particularly rappers from the inner cities. Bearing this in mind, I do believe many are using it in a racist way

It's not about color. It's about behavior. A white person can be a rapper, in fact the best rapper of all time is white. The best golfer is black. And we have a black President.It's ridiculous that Sherman and others are turning back the clocks like this. He deflected attention from his behavior by using the racism card. What a slap in the face to everyone whose sacrifices allowed him to reap the benefits of a hard fought victory with civil rights.

 

[Neofight]

We're now talking about the racial implications of the word "thug".

Richard Sherman wins again.

Sherman has lost in so many ways. He tarnished his image, embarrassed himself on national television, detracted from his teammates, and from a game standpoint put a huge target on Seattle's back and moved a large population of neutral fans into Denver's corner. He may have gained more notoriety and endorsement money in the short term but in the long run his brand, his causes, and is legacy will suffer. People dont want to associate themselves with someone so polarizing. And now he is trying to say that people describing him as a thug are racist? Great way to turn non-racists into racists.Winner? Maybe on the football field, but even there the legitimacy of that accomplishment is called into question (steroids). In the game of life the guy appears to be a complete loser. A loudmouthed, insecure, ego-maniac. Once again, can't wait to see karma pay him a visit next Sunday.

Feeling racist?

Nope. Sherman is the only racist here. Turning the word thug into a racist remark is race baiting at its finest.

Well he's obviously busy trying to create a nation of racists. Perhaps you need a refresher course?

 

[Gandalf the Grey]

This is just my opinion.

I grew up at about the same time as rap music was growing up. When I was very young, say mid to late 80's (very early 90's), I wouldn't have associated the word "thug" with blacks at all. I would have associated it with things that were popular at the time - the mafia. Goodfellas was released, Scarface and the 2nd and 3rd Godfather movies were out or coming out. If you said "thug" back then, then mobsters pretty much came to mind, at least in my neck of the woods.

Rap music reflected this facination with the mob, and starting in the early 90's rap artists were calling themselves "thugs" with regularity. They even used the term in the titles of their songs - "Thug Life" was an album from a group started by Tupac, he also had a song called "Thugz 4 Life" (might be off on the spelling there), Trick Daddy had a song called "I'm a Thug" which was a huge hit, getting tons of radio play. These are just ones I remember. Tons of examples exist.

So the word "thug", by much of the generation speaking out now (media included) is associated with people of color, particularly rappers from the inner cities. Bearing this in mind, I do believe many are using it in a racist way - but I don't believe it's a substitute for the n-word. I think it's just another term people are using because they think it's hurtful and they want to attack the target of their anger and cause pain. "Thug" is a way they can do that in public forums (like the media) and not get the backlash of harsh racial epithets.

The word "thug" is definately not a n-word substitute for lots of us, though. I work on and off with a guy who served time in a Max Security Prison - Florence. He was deep in the Mexican Mafia and was one of the biggest drug runners in Albuquerque before he got sent here. He's half Mexican and half Italian, and guess what he's got tattoed across his forearm? The word "THUG". I was chatting with him a few hours ago about this very topic, and he told me "Everyone's a thug in prison. Mexican's use it, Italians, Whites, Blacks - everyone."

So although some may be using it in a racist way, in their own minds - please don't assume that everyone thinks the same. Many of us out here look at the word for what it is: noun - a violent person, especially a criminal.

None of which Richard Sherman is, as far as I know. The word thug shouldn't be used in it's slang form or it's literal form to describe him.

This sounds familiar.

 

[Hoss Style]

So the word "thug", by much of the generation speaking out now (media included) is associated with people of color, particularly rappers from the inner cities. Bearing this in mind, I do believe many are using it in a racist way

It's not about color. It's about behavior. A white person can be a rapper, in fact the best rapper of all time is white. The best golfer is black. And we have a black President.It's ridiculous that Sherman and others are turning back the clocks like this. He deflected attention from his behavior by using the racism card. What a slap in the face to everyone whose sacrifices allowed him to reap the benefits of a hard fought victory with civil rights.

Of course it's not about color - which is why that quote you pulled out had a bunch of other context around it. In fact, most of the rest of my post was saying exactly what you said: "It's not about color".

I'm not sure how you missed that, other than by not reading any of the rest of my post. :(

 

[Hoss Style]

This is just my opinion.

I grew up at about the same time as rap music was growing up. When I was very young, say mid to late 80's (very early 90's), I wouldn't have associated the word "thug" with blacks at all. I would have associated it with things that were popular at the time - the mafia. Goodfellas was released, Scarface and the 2nd and 3rd Godfather movies were out or coming out. If you said "thug" back then, then mobsters pretty much came to mind, at least in my neck of the woods.

Rap music reflected this facination with the mob, and starting in the early 90's rap artists were calling themselves "thugs" with regularity. They even used the term in the titles of their songs - "Thug Life" was an album from a group started by Tupac, he also had a song called "Thugz 4 Life" (might be off on the spelling there), Trick Daddy had a song called "I'm a Thug" which was a huge hit, getting tons of radio play. These are just ones I remember. Tons of examples exist.

So the word "thug", by much of the generation speaking out now (media included) is associated with people of color, particularly rappers from the inner cities. Bearing this in mind, I do believe many are using it in a racist way - but I don't believe it's a substitute for the n-word. I think it's just another term people are using because they think it's hurtful and they want to attack the target of their anger and cause pain. "Thug" is a way they can do that in public forums (like the media) and not get the backlash of harsh racial epithets.

The word "thug" is definately not a n-word substitute for lots of us, though. I work on and off with a guy who served time in a Max Security Prison - Florence. He was deep in the Mexican Mafia and was one of the biggest drug runners in Albuquerque before he got sent here. He's half Mexican and half Italian, and guess what he's got tattoed across his forearm? The word "THUG". I was chatting with him a few hours ago about this very topic, and he told me "Everyone's a thug in prison. Mexican's use it, Italians, Whites, Blacks - everyone."

So although some may be using it in a racist way, in their own minds - please don't assume that everyone thinks the same. Many of us out here look at the word for what it is: noun - a violent person, especially a criminal.

None of which Richard Sherman is, as far as I know. The word thug shouldn't be used in it's slang form or it's literal form to describe him.

This sounds familiar.

What do you mean? Are you saying this in a good or bad way? I don't think I've ever posted anything similar.

 

[General Tso]

So the word "thug", by much of the generation speaking out now (media included) is associated with people of color, particularly rappers from the inner cities. Bearing this in mind, I do believe many are using it in a racist way

It's not about color. It's about behavior. A white person can be a rapper, in fact the best rapper of all time is white. The best golfer is black. And we have a black President.It's ridiculous that Sherman and others are turning back the clocks like this. He deflected attention from his behavior by using the racism card. What a slap in the face to everyone whose sacrifices allowed him to reap the benefits of a hard fought victory with civil rights.

Of course it's not about color - which is why that quote you pulled out had a bunch of other context around it. In fact, most of the rest of my post was saying exactly what you said: "It's not about color".I'm not sure how you missed that, other than by not reading any of the rest of my post. :(

Apologies - didn't mean to misrepresent you.

 

[Gandalf the Grey]

This is just my opinion.

I grew up at about the same time as rap music was growing up. When I was very young, say mid to late 80's (very early 90's), I wouldn't have associated the word "thug" with blacks at all. I would have associated it with things that were popular at the time - the mafia. Goodfellas was released, Scarface and the 2nd and 3rd Godfather movies were out or coming out. If you said "thug" back then, then mobsters pretty much came to mind, at least in my neck of the woods.

Rap music reflected this facination with the mob, and starting in the early 90's rap artists were calling themselves "thugs" with regularity. They even used the term in the titles of their songs - "Thug Life" was an album from a group started by Tupac, he also had a song called "Thugz 4 Life" (might be off on the spelling there), Trick Daddy had a song called "I'm a Thug" which was a huge hit, getting tons of radio play. These are just ones I remember. Tons of examples exist.

So the word "thug", by much of the generation speaking out now (media included) is associated with people of color, particularly rappers from the inner cities. Bearing this in mind, I do believe many are using it in a racist way - but I don't believe it's a substitute for the n-word. I think it's just another term people are using because they think it's hurtful and they want to attack the target of their anger and cause pain. "Thug" is a way they can do that in public forums (like the media) and not get the backlash of harsh racial epithets.

The word "thug" is definately not a n-word substitute for lots of us, though. I work on and off with a guy who served time in a Max Security Prison - Florence. He was deep in the Mexican Mafia and was one of the biggest drug runners in Albuquerque before he got sent here. He's half Mexican and half Italian, and guess what he's got tattoed across his forearm? The word "THUG". I was chatting with him a few hours ago about this very topic, and he told me "Everyone's a thug in prison. Mexican's use it, Italians, Whites, Blacks - everyone."

So although some may be using it in a racist way, in their own minds - please don't assume that everyone thinks the same. Many of us out here look at the word for what it is: noun - a violent person, especially a criminal.

None of which Richard Sherman is, as far as I know. The word thug shouldn't be used in it's slang form or it's literal form to describe him.

This sounds familiar.

What do you mean? Are you saying this in a good or bad way? I don't think I've ever posted anything similar.

Only saying this parallels much of what I've posted in this thread. I agree with you.

 

[Hoss Style]

So the word "thug", by much of the generation speaking out now (media included) is associated with people of color, particularly rappers from the inner cities. Bearing this in mind, I do believe many are using it in a racist way

It's not about color. It's about behavior. A white person can be a rapper, in fact the best rapper of all time is white. The best golfer is black. And we have a black President.It's ridiculous that Sherman and others are turning back the clocks like this. He deflected attention from his behavior by using the racism card. What a slap in the face to everyone whose sacrifices allowed him to reap the benefits of a hard fought victory with civil rights.

Of course it's not about color - which is why that quote you pulled out had a bunch of other context around it. In fact, most of the rest of my post was saying exactly what you said: "It's not about color".I'm not sure how you missed that, other than by not reading any of the rest of my post. :(

Apologies - didn't mean to misrepresent you.

No worries. Thanks for the apology. If you were agreeing with me and I misread - sorry about that.

 

[biju]

So the word "thug", by much of the generation speaking out now (media included) is associated with people of color, particularly rappers from the inner cities. Bearing this in mind, I do believe many are using it in a racist way

It's not about color. It's about behavior. A white person can be a rapper, in fact the best rapper of all time is white. The best golfer is black. And we have a black President.It's ridiculous that Sherman and others are turning back the clocks like this. He deflected attention from his behavior by using the racism card. What a slap in the face to everyone whose sacrifices allowed him to reap the benefits of a hard fought victory with civil rights.

I think this is where you lose a lot of people. That interview was 4 minutes and 7 seconds after his play sent his team to the Super Bowl and a certain amount of his talk was emotion and adrenaline. If you can claim you've never been that brash then...well, I'd think you're lying. For that matter, your aggressive nature in this thread would (by your own definition) probably make you a thug.

But I'm sure you'll deflect your behavior in some fashion and try to bring up the Sherman/race issue again. Ironically enough, doing this will make you more like Sherman. Actually I take it back--after reading this (if you got this far) you'll probably opt to ignore it.

 

[Hoss Style]

This is just my opinion.

I grew up at about the same time as rap music was growing up. When I was very young, say mid to late 80's (very early 90's), I wouldn't have associated the word "thug" with blacks at all. I would have associated it with things that were popular at the time - the mafia. Goodfellas was released, Scarface and the 2nd and 3rd Godfather movies were out or coming out. If you said "thug" back then, then mobsters pretty much came to mind, at least in my neck of the woods.

Rap music reflected this facination with the mob, and starting in the early 90's rap artists were calling themselves "thugs" with regularity. They even used the term in the titles of their songs - "Thug Life" was an album from a group started by Tupac, he also had a song called "Thugz 4 Life" (might be off on the spelling there), Trick Daddy had a song called "I'm a Thug" which was a huge hit, getting tons of radio play. These are just ones I remember. Tons of examples exist.

So the word "thug", by much of the generation speaking out now (media included) is associated with people of color, particularly rappers from the inner cities. Bearing this in mind, I do believe many are using it in a racist way - but I don't believe it's a substitute for the n-word. I think it's just another term people are using because they think it's hurtful and they want to attack the target of their anger and cause pain. "Thug" is a way they can do that in public forums (like the media) and not get the backlash of harsh racial epithets.

The word "thug" is definately not a n-word substitute for lots of us, though. I work on and off with a guy who served time in a Max Security Prison - Florence. He was deep in the Mexican Mafia and was one of the biggest drug runners in Albuquerque before he got sent here. He's half Mexican and half Italian, and guess what he's got tattoed across his forearm? The word "THUG". I was chatting with him a few hours ago about this very topic, and he told me "Everyone's a thug in prison. Mexican's use it, Italians, Whites, Blacks - everyone."

So although some may be using it in a racist way, in their own minds - please don't assume that everyone thinks the same. Many of us out here look at the word for what it is: noun - a violent person, especially a criminal.

None of which Richard Sherman is, as far as I know. The word thug shouldn't be used in it's slang form or it's literal form to describe him.

This sounds familiar.

What do you mean? Are you saying this in a good or bad way? I don't think I've ever posted anything similar.

Only saying this parallels much of what I've posted in this thread. I agree with you.

Gotcha.

For a second there I said to myself "Is he saying I plagarized this??".

 

[sho nuff]

We're now talking about the racial implications of the word "thug".

Richard Sherman wins again.

Sherman has lost in so many ways. He tarnished his image, embarrassed himself on national television, detracted from his teammates, and from a game standpoint put a huge target on Seattle's back and moved a large population of neutral fans into Denver's corner. He may have gained more notoriety and endorsement money in the short term but in the long run his brand, his causes, and is legacy will suffer. People dont want to associate themselves with someone so polarizing. And now he is trying to say that people describing him as a thug are racist? Great way to turn non-racists into racists.Winner? Maybe on the football field, but even there the legitimacy of that accomplishment is called into question (steroids). In the game of life the guy appears to be a complete loser. A loudmouthed, insecure, ego-maniac. Once again, can't wait to see karma pay him a visit next Sunday.

Feeling racist?

Nope. Sherman is the only racist here. Turning the word thug into a racist remark is race baiting at its finest.

I think Sherman was doing so in response to the backlash he received in other places (including things said to him far worse than thug.

I think he is misguided in equating the term with the n-word...but can see his side given the messages he did receive after his remarks.

His remarks, that no matter how much I disagree with his behavior, don't deserve the backlash he received in terms of the racial slurs that came his way.

Call him arrogant and even classless for it...fine. Many went way too overboard.

 

[Neofight]

So the word "thug", by much of the generation speaking out now (media included) is associated with people of color, particularly rappers from the inner cities. Bearing this in mind, I do believe many are using it in a racist way

It's not about color. It's about behavior. A white person can be a rapper, in fact the best rapper of all time is white. The best golfer is black. And we have a black President.It's ridiculous that Sherman and others are turning back the clocks like this. He deflected attention from his behavior by using the racism card. What a slap in the face to everyone whose sacrifices allowed him to reap the benefits of a hard fought victory with civil rights.

I think this is where you lose a lot of people. That interview was 4 minutes and 7 seconds after his play sent his team to the Super Bowl and a certain amount of his talk was emotion and adrenaline. If you can claim you've never been that brash then...well, I'd think you're lying. For that matter, your aggressive nature in this thread would (by your own definition) probably make you a thug.

But I'm sure you'll deflect your behavior in some fashion and try to bring up the Sherman/race issue again. Ironically enough, doing this will make you more like Sherman. Actually I take it back--after reading this (if you got this far) you'll probably opt to ignore it.

It is worth noting that Tso has been more focused on negative associations/characterizations than any other poster in this thread.

 

[General Tso]

We're now talking about the racial implications of the word "thug".

Richard Sherman wins again.

Sherman has lost in so many ways. He tarnished his image, embarrassed himself on national television, detracted from his teammates, and from a game standpoint put a huge target on Seattle's back and moved a large population of neutral fans into Denver's corner. He may have gained more notoriety and endorsement money in the short term but in the long run his brand, his causes, and is legacy will suffer. People dont want to associate themselves with someone so polarizing. And now he is trying to say that people describing him as a thug are racist? Great way to turn non-racists into racists.Winner? Maybe on the football field, but even there the legitimacy of that accomplishment is called into question (steroids). In the game of life the guy appears to be a complete loser. A loudmouthed, insecure, ego-maniac. Once again, can't wait to see karma pay him a visit next Sunday.

Feeling racist?

Nope. Sherman is the only racist here. Turning the word thug into a racist remark is race baiting at its finest.

I think Sherman was doing so in response to the backlash he received in other places (including things said to him far worse than thug.

I think he is misguided in equating the term with the n-word...but can see his side given the messages he did receive after his remarks.

His remarks, that no matter how much I disagree with his behavior, don't deserve the backlash he received in terms of the racial slurs that came his way.

Call him arrogant and even classless for it...fine. Many went way too overboard.

Agree with you 100% Sho Nuff. Nothing deserves the racial slurs that were directed at Sherman. That stuff is sickening. We have come a long way but there still are some horrible excuses for human beings out there. On that I think we are all agreed. I saw an instance of blatant racism over the holidays when I was out with some of my buddies. The good thing is that every white guy in the area came to the defense of the black person and the idiot was quickly removed from the scene before he got his ### kicked by all of us, black and white alike. I think 30 years ago a lot of the white people would have passively stood by and watched. So I think things are a lot better than they used to be.

 

[Chaka]

THE SHERIFF IS NEAR!!!

 

[False Start]

This thread is entertaining.

 

[ghostguy123]

This thread is entertaining.

So is Richard Sherman

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Who is the bigger tool?

Richard Sherman or Mike Sherman?

 

[ImTheScientist]

Safe to say some of you are obsessed with him.

 

[bigums]

Can we clarify something? The best rapper of all time is WHITE?

 

[Hoodoo]

Can we clarify something? The best rapper of all time is WHITE?

Without a doubt

 

[rdrouyn]

Can we clarify something? The best rapper of all time is WHITE?

Yeah, I'm very curious about this best rapper of all time being white thing.

That is more interesting than talking about Sherman again and again, lol.

 

[Hoss Style]

Can we clarify something? The best rapper of all time is WHITE?

Yeah, I'm very curious about this best rapper of all time being white thing.

That is more interesting than talking about Sherman again and again, lol.

Not to rain on his parade, but most would agree that Rakim did more to elevate lyrics than any other rapper. Eminem will tell you Rakim is one of his idols. So will almost every other rapper who values lyrical content.

I'm just talking lyrically, here. The "best" using other qualifiers might have a different answer.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Tupac was pretty great too. Plus we don't know if he's dead or alive right now which makes him even greater.

 

[sho nuff]

Tupac was pretty great too. Plus we don't know if he's dead or alive right now which makes him even greater.

Is it racist to call him a thug?

 

[Dinkle Heimer]

17 pages.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Tupac was pretty great too. Plus we don't know if he's dead or alive right now which makes him even greater.

Is it racist to call him a thug?

I think you are a racist by asking that question.

 

[ghostguy123]

Best rapper is white? I can't imagine too many people agree there.

 

[False Start]

Best rapper is white? I can't imagine too many people agree there.

Eminem is the #1 selling Hip-Hop/Rap artist of All-time and no other Hip-Hop/Rap artist comes close. He has 2 of the Top 4 selling Hip Hop/Rap albums in history. Not saying he is the best but more would agree than you think. This is an excerpt from his Wikipedia page below.

Eminem is one of the world's best-selling music artists and is THE best-selling artist of the 2000s. He has been listed and ranked as one of the greatest artists of all time by many magazines, including Rolling Stone magazine which ranked him 82nd on its list of The 100 Greatest Artists of All Time. The same magazine declared him The King of Hip Hop.

 

[ghostguy123]

I am not even going to bother explaing why best selling and best are not the same.

The kardashians was the most watched show, or one of them anyway. Get the idea?

That and come on, eminem incorporates so many other famous performers in his songs and albums that it really skews things anyway.

 

[False Start]

I am not even going to bother explaing why best selling and best are not the same.

The kardashians was the most watched show, or one of them anyway. Get the idea?

That and come on, eminent incorporates so many other famous performers in his songs and albums that it really skews things anyway.

You're not gonna explain it? Interesting then I will. While picking the best performer in any genre of music is subjective, the very few things we have to go off of on a factual matter are sales and radio airplay. While I will not bore you with how the radio airplay factors into album sales, album sales are a direct correlation of if someone is liked or if not. While I do not suspect many people will buy an album of an artist they do not like, I think it is safe to say that he is liked by many do to his album sales being 300% more than the next best selling Hip-Hop and Rap artist of All-time. That includes Tupac, Biggie, Public Enemy and Outkast.

So, yes, it is an opinion if someone thinks someone is the best rapper of all-time, but all you can really go on is who really sells the most records and wins the most awards. After all we judge QBs by the titles they win regardless of his seasonal stats. Eminem is far and away the leader in both those categories and safe to say that some think he is the greatest rapper of all-time, myself being one of them.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Best rapper is white? I can't imagine too many people agree there.

Eminem is the #1 selling Hip-Hop/Rap artist of All-time and no other Hip-Hop/Rap artist comes close. He has 2 of the Top 4 selling Hip Hop/Rap albums in history. Not saying he is the best but more would agree than you think. This is an excerpt from his Wikipedia page below.

Eminem is one of the world's best-selling music artists and is THE best-selling artist of the 2000s. He has been listed and ranked as one of the greatest artists of all time by many magazines, including Rolling Stone magazine which ranked him 82nd on its list of The 100 Greatest Artists of All Time. The same magazine declared him The King of Hip Hop.

 

[MDSkinner]

Tupac was pretty great too. Plus we don't know if he's dead or alive right now which makes him even greater.

Is it racist to call him a thug?

I think you are a racist by asking that question.

You may just be kidding (I hope so anyway) but wasn't one of Tupac's most famous quotes "I didn't choose the thug life; the thug life chose me."?

 

[False Start]

Best rapper is white? I can't imagine too many people agree there.

Eminem is the #1 selling Hip-Hop/Rap artist of All-time and no other Hip-Hop/Rap artist comes close. He has 2 of the Top 4 selling Hip Hop/Rap albums in history. Not saying he is the best but more would agree than you think. This is an excerpt from his Wikipedia page below.

Eminem is one of the world's best-selling music artists and is THE best-selling artist of the 2000s. He has been listed and ranked as one of the greatest artists of all time by many magazines, including Rolling Stone magazine which ranked him 82nd on its list of The 100 Greatest Artists of All Time. The same magazine declared him The King of Hip Hop.

Too much information for you to gather, I do not know what that emoticon means. It looks like something someone would put if they are having a hard time reading.

 

[ghostguy123]

So now winning a massively biased award is being equated to winning a head to head competiton on a football field. Jesus.

Still waiting on the kardashian explanation. And reality show ratings.

 

[Scoresman]

Eminem is a tool just like Sherman. if I had the impression Eminem was intelligent, I'd have guessed he was a Stanford grad too.

 

[Hoss Style]

Best rapper is white? I can't imagine too many people agree there.

Eminem is the #1 selling Hip-Hop/Rap artist of All-time and no other Hip-Hop/Rap artist comes close. He has 2 of the Top 4 selling Hip Hop/Rap albums in history. Not saying he is the best but more would agree than you think. This is an excerpt from his Wikipedia page below.

Eminem is one of the world's best-selling music artists and is THE best-selling artist of the 2000s. He has been listed and ranked as one of the greatest artists of all time by many magazines, including Rolling Stone magazine which ranked him 82nd on its list of The 100 Greatest Artists of All Time. The same magazine declared him The King of Hip Hop.

Too much information for you to gather, I do not know what that emoticon means. It looks like something someone would put if they are having a hard time reading.

I don't know what it means, but it made me laugh. I'm going to start using it ramdomly to respond to people.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Best rapper is white? I can't imagine too many people agree there.

Eminem is the #1 selling Hip-Hop/Rap artist of All-time and no other Hip-Hop/Rap artist comes close. He has 2 of the Top 4 selling Hip Hop/Rap albums in history. Not saying he is the best but more would agree than you think. This is an excerpt from his Wikipedia page below.

Eminem is one of the world's best-selling music artists and is THE best-selling artist of the 2000s. He has been listed and ranked as one of the greatest artists of all time by many magazines, including Rolling Stone magazine which ranked him 82nd on its list of The 100 Greatest Artists of All Time. The same magazine declared him The King of Hip Hop.

Too much information for you to gather, I do not know what that emoticon means. It looks like something someone would put if they are having a hard time reading.

I don't know what it means, but it made me laugh. I'm going to start using it ramdomly to respond to people.

Do it. It's pretty fun.

 

[False Start]

So now winning a massively biased award is being equated to winning a head to head competiton on a football field. Jesus.

Still waiting on the kardashian explanation. And reality show ratings.

Do you even know what you are talking about? You make a lot of pointless statements and when people respond you then act like a confrontational person. You go from Sherman, to racism, to white rappers to Kardashians. People do not have to go to Stanford to see right through you and your schtick. Is this how you react every time someone responds to one of your trolling posts with reasoning information and data?

 

[MoveToSkypager]

So now winning a massively biased award is being equated to winning a head to head competiton on a football field. Jesus.

Still waiting on the kardashian explanation. And reality show ratings.

 

[False Start]

So now winning a massively biased award is being equated to winning a head to head competiton on a football field. Jesus.

Still waiting on the kardashian explanation. And reality show ratings.

Really? Interesting considering the facts and data I provided to his antagonizing statement was owning him. Reasonable people on this site are laughing at you two.

 

[False Start]

Tupac was pretty great too. Plus we don't know if he's dead or alive right now which makes him even greater.

Is it racist to call him a thug?

I think you are a racist by asking that question.

You may just be kidding (I hope so anyway) but wasn't one of Tupac's most famous quotes "I didn't choose the thug life; the thug life chose me."?

 

[MoveToSkypager]

So now winning a massively biased award is being equated to winning a head to head competiton on a football field. Jesus.

Still waiting on the kardashian explanation. And reality show ratings.

Really? Interesting considering the facts and data I provided to his antagonizing statement was owning him. Reasonable people on this site are laughing at you two.

You provided a steaming pile of poop and instead of cleaning it, you are smearing it all over the place.

 

[ghostguy123]

Oh, I got it. The kardashian reality show must be the best show of all time since it had the most viewers of any show ever.

You provided some facts, unfortunately those facts don't come remotely close to proving what you were trying to say, hence the very similar kardashian analogy. You love eminem, we get it.