Hang 10
Footballguy
He doesn't play a team game? Pretty sure his teammate made the game saving interception. Sherman could have given the guy some credit when asked about the the play. Instead he went full dooshbag.
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Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Good Posting. People defending those antics really are the ones reaching.If you're not a fan for poor sportsmanship, you must be bitter. Classic.
So? Why does that matter? Isn't the object to win? It seemed pretty clear that defeating Crabtree was more important to him than beating the 49ers. I can't think of anything else like it from any team sport that kind of meaningful game.Dude, it was 3 minutes after the play. His whole team was still congratulating him on it. They picked him to interview first beacause of that play. Of course he was still stuck on it. He ended it with "LoB" for Legion of Boom. I get the hate and share in most of it, but it's just silly to pick one extremely emotional moment to define him. He's the ultimate team player.This was the problem for me. Ali was in an individual sport. When he won, it was all because of him. Sherman is in a team sport. Had Sherman called SF mediocre or called Seattle the best, it would have been fine. He could have talked all the team trash he wanted. But he didn't. Everything was about him. And Crabtree. The individual battle was more important to him than the team battle. They just advanced to the Super Bowl and he was stuck on still beating Crabtree. He should have been celebrating the team victory instead of his individual one.Think Sherman was bad? You must have *hated* Muhammad Ali.Sounds like some of you would have preferred that he pull out a Meerschaum, spark it up, and start dissecting the play using Shakespearian English.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
@ProFootballTalk: Report: Crabtree tried to fight Sherman at a charity event last year http://t.co/B0GweEiB3x
Black
Footballguy
I liked the whole 'got spurned by John Harbaugh' shtick...bright guy, great skills, excelling in this defense. I even liked some of his trash talk, but I didn't like him telling some MIN WR 'that's just wasting my time.' At that point, the arrogance started showing through. I don't like when he acts like he's yawning and bored or when he golf claps when he gets burned.
I loved Ochocinco and his nonsense (racing cheetahs, mailing CBs exlax or something?) and I even like what Steve Smiff brings to the game (except when he's breaking people's jaws)...in fact, Smith is often complementary of young players.
It seems like with all the press attention, Sherman's ego has really inflated and he is playing up that 'smart guy' thing, but he comes across like a mean-spirited version of Ochocinco. The Crabtree butt-slap was completely classless. Maybe he'll try that on Steve Smith.
Anyways...as fans we all have our irrational emotional reaction to players, and that's mine. I do think Peyton will get the better of him, even if it's torching all of his lesser teammates.
I loved Ochocinco and his nonsense (racing cheetahs, mailing CBs exlax or something?) and I even like what Steve Smiff brings to the game (except when he's breaking people's jaws)...in fact, Smith is often complementary of young players.
It seems like with all the press attention, Sherman's ego has really inflated and he is playing up that 'smart guy' thing, but he comes across like a mean-spirited version of Ochocinco. The Crabtree butt-slap was completely classless. Maybe he'll try that on Steve Smith.
Anyways...as fans we all have our irrational emotional reaction to players, and that's mine. I do think Peyton will get the better of him, even if it's torching all of his lesser teammates.
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Smack Tripper
Footballguy
I LOVE Sherman and have for a few years now.
We need more Richard Sherman's not less. Speak, speak openly and back up your hard work and effort. You'd never know this guy graduated Stanford and prioritizes preparation over partying.
Long live Sherman
We need more Richard Sherman's not less. Speak, speak openly and back up your hard work and effort. You'd never know this guy graduated Stanford and prioritizes preparation over partying.
Long live Sherman
steveski
Footballguy
Wait, so you're telling me that Sherman's brother said that Sherman was acting like a class act and Crabtree was acting like a #####? Must be true then.
I think this says it all. I'm sure they are much more proud to say that Andrew Luck is a Stanford grad than that conceited big-mouth Sherman. He's an embarrassment.
Hang 10
Footballguy
I'm sure Sherman wasn't doing anything to provoke Crabtree. Just an innocent handshake. Yeah, I believe that.
Boston
Footballguy
It's amazing how close-minded our society gets...everything is black and white, right or wrong and if you don't see things my way than you are either a thug or an old white guy...it gets really silly...as for Sherman...great player...zero debate on that...as for his actions I find him to be unbelievably immature and on the surface he appears to have a strong desire for the individual limelight and the need to belittle others...maybe he didn't get too much attention as a kid...I have no knowledge of his upbringing...when it comes to these type of players what is really important is how their teammates feel about them...if they like him and don't find him to be a distraction than it's all good...if he cause issues in the locker-room than there is a problem...that being said under no condition would I find his behavior acceptable if he was my kid or I was coaching him...but guess what, I aint his Daddy and all I'm doing is sitting on a couch watching him play great ball and act like a spoiled ten year old so it really doesn't matter...
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Guy is a 5th round draft picked who worked his way into being an all pro. He can talk all he wants to, all day long, guy backs it up on the field. What exactly is embarassing about him?
steveski
Footballguy
And Sherman got his degree in communication. Makes that department look great! Also, no offense to people with communications degrees, but it's not usually regarded as one of the more complicated degrees to achieve. Luck graduated with a degree in Architectural Design...
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
steveski
Footballguy
Maybe, but the article makes it act like Sherman was trying to be all class and Crabtree was just being a punk. Do you think that's believable? Sherman went to shake Crabtree's hand right after he made that play as well. Based on the rest of his post game antics, do you think this was a sincere handshake or him being a sarcastic punk?
I might believe this article if Shermans brother wasn't the source and if it didn't act like Sherman was a saint, which he clearly is not.
I read or heard that when Sherman extended his hand, he said something along the lines of 'good game. That's what happens when you challenge the best'.
Anyone who thinks he was doing it to be a good sport just hasn't figured out what a tool Sherman is yet.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
So Sherman's brother is a liar because Richard Sherman acted like a punk in the game yesterday?
Could Richard have been acting fine at this event? Sure. We need to stop acting like yesterday was the norm and occur every day with him. The guy has how many spats in how many years?
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steveski
Footballguy
Why do you say that? You don't go to school for architecture if you're an athlete just trying to get by until you go pro. That's what Communications and Sports Management is for. If anything, Sherman doesn't know when to stop talking and stop acting like a tool. The game was over and he won, why continue on? Don't you think knowing when and when not to say certain things was in Communication 101 class?
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
sho nuff
Footballguy
Because its not just that one moment.Dude, it was 3 minutes after the play. His whole team was still congratulating him on it. They picked him to interview first beacause of that play. Of course he was still stuck on it. He ended it with "LoB" for Legion of Boom. I get the hate and share in most of it, but it's just silly to pick one extremely emotional moment to define him. He's the ultimate team player.This was the problem for me. Ali was in an individual sport. When he won, it was all because of him. Sherman is in a team sport. Had Sherman called SF mediocre or called Seattle the best, it would have been fine. He could have talked all the team trash he wanted. But he didn't. Everything was about him. And Crabtree. The individual battle was more important to him than the team battle. They just advanced to the Super Bowl and he was stuck on still beating Crabtree. He should have been celebrating the team victory instead of his individual one.Think Sherman was bad? You must have *hated* Muhammad Ali.
And he is out there on twitter talking about people shouldn't judge his character by things like this. But the problem is...so much of his public persona is him acting like this. How else are those who don't read every story or see every piece about him supposed to "judge" him.
If he does not want to be judged for acting like that...he probably shouldn't do it so often.
Its not "offensive" to me...he just came off bad while others came off much better and classier.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Boy this is really the white boy, read sports illustrated by the flashlight in bed, work on foul shots in your driveway crowd isn't it.
Did the big bad man with dreads scare you?
Did the big bad man with dreads scare you?
Hang 10
Footballguy
Sherman has his reputation for a reason and it's well documented. He's not going to get the benefit of the doubt from very many people here.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
You're right, I would be happy and proud to put my children to sleep in a house designed by this fella http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7435/11898839745_36be273df7_o.gif
Hang 10
Footballguy
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
What reputation does Sherman's brother have that's been well documented? This was at a charity even and surely there were other people around to see this. Something tells me that if Richard started this it would have been all over the news very shortly after, wouldnt you agree?
Ned
Footballguy
Think Sherman was bad? You must have *hated* Muhammad Ali.
Three minutes after making a play that effectively ended the game and sent his team to the Super Bowl, defending against a guy who was trash talking him apparently since before the season, and with more adrenaline cruising through his system than most of the armchair critics here will ever have, damn straight he's going to be amped and go off. A part of playing DB is getting into the receiver's head, and pretty simply he can't turn it on and off that fast. At least he didn't thank his hands for being so great.
Manning shilling for a crappy pizza chain run by a jerk is more offensive.
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Seems those defending him are bringing up race more than others that have criticized his behavior.
steveski
Footballguy
Andrew Luck probably has a way better degree/GPA than the guy designing our houses. But carry on...
Hang 10
Footballguy
Sherman's brother doesn't have reputation as far as I know but saying he's biased source isn't really going out on a limb. Why would a story about a fight that didn't happen be all over the news?
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Nice piece by Sherman here
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/01/20/richard-sherman-interview-michael-crabtree/
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/01/20/richard-sherman-interview-michael-crabtree/
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
What makes you so sure? I have seen evidence of Sherman's communication skills and they are at a glance, first rate. The guy will have his pick of jobs at the national broadcast outlet of his choosing. He also graduated second in his high school class.
Andrew Luck may well be a fine architect, but how much time do you think he spent in 1st semester classes?
Sorry, I'll take take Sherman the communicator over Frank Lloyd Luck, Mr. Luck's draftsmans skills sight unseen.
He's a cheat that got off on a technicality that's why I don't respect him.
If he keeps pounding his chest saying he's the best corner in football, eventually people are going to start to believe him. I'm not mad at him for trying to get his name out there and drive up his value but he just seems to take it too far.
Hang 10
Footballguy
Not sure what your point is. Whether Crabtree or Sherman was the bigger doosh at charity event was not a story when it happened and now that it is a story people are skeptical about Sherman's brothers version of the events.
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Who knows what's true. But it would explain the handshake gesture if it was.
chinawildman
Footballguy
@ dudes talking about NFL players like my wife and her gay friends talk about the real housewives...Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Now if I can say one thing safely about the guy, its that he needs Adderal.
What was the technicality?
He's also statistically rated as the best cover corner. Who would you take over him?
Neofight
Footballguy
This is simply uninformed. Do yourself a favor and read up on Carroll's philosophy on competing and his "Win Forever" initiative. I wish the Cowboys had a coach with an overarching philosophy as well defined and implemented as Pete Carroll's or Bill Bellichick's. Both have a unique and proven approach to coaching that players buy into.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Sherman as an athlete is a complete idiot. He is a great player that has some major insecurities. Insecurities can come out in many ways as we have seen with past players like Owens and Ocho etc. Those defending Sherman saying it is a business move does not justify his actions as being an idiot as an athlete just becuase he is trying to make money. There are idiots everywhere who run a business or own a buisness that I dislike and don't defend them because it is business and they are trying to make money.
I would not say Sherman is a bad person or put him in a category with someone who beats their wife or deals drugs but as an athlete I don't tolerate or condone this type of behavior. I have mentioned it before but you can be a character and have confidence and swag and not be an idiot while doing so. You can even walk that fine line but when you continuously are talking yourself up and crossing that line it is safe to see that there is an insecurity that eventually catches up to you like it did with Owens and Ocho.
I would not say Sherman is a bad person or put him in a category with someone who beats their wife or deals drugs but as an athlete I don't tolerate or condone this type of behavior. I have mentioned it before but you can be a character and have confidence and swag and not be an idiot while doing so. You can even walk that fine line but when you continuously are talking yourself up and crossing that line it is safe to see that there is an insecurity that eventually catches up to you like it did with Owens and Ocho.
Hang 10
Footballguy
Your wife is a lesbo? Niiiiccceee.
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General Tso
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oh my God, how did I not see this before? I physically could not watch this entire interview. This is what you get when you mix arrogance, intelligence, and a real nasty mean streak.Biggest ##### I've ever seen in sports.
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General Tso
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It's one thing to be bombastic and controversial. You can do that without being a complete #######. Muhammad Ali walked the line, but at least with him you knew there was some goodness and humor underneath it all. With Sherman there is none of that. The guy's nothing but an ugly, insecure, nasty ghetto punk with an ego complex. And that doesn't translate to money. People don't want to see that or hear that. At least not anyone worth their salt.
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Neofight
Footballguy
As was mentioned up thread, Clayton had already reported this in the local media. Not sure what his sources are, but Crabtree sounds like a man who knows he bit off more than he could chew in his post game interview and his tweets. He should let this one rest.
The cup he peed in was cracked so the tester put a second cup underneath it so it wouldn't leak. Sherman said the second cup contaminated the result (cups are coming off the production line laced with PEDs I guess).
The other thing is the league can't say which drug players test positive for, which is why every single guy that fails a test now says it was adderall so they don't get the PED stigma attached to their name.
