Shooting at Ft. Hood (1 Viewer)

[RBM]

My opinioon is that his superiors didn’t understand just how mentally sick and unbalanced he was and like bureaucracies of any size, it is much easier to move a problem than deal with it yourself.

Holy #### man, open your eyes. Sick and unbalanced??? Holy ####

He wasn't sick and unbalanced?

He was a freakin terrorist

 

[Fennis]

My opinioon is that his superiors didn’t understand just how mentally sick and unbalanced he was and like bureaucracies of any size, it is much easier to move a problem than deal with it yourself.

Holy #### man, open your eyes. Sick and unbalanced??? Holy ####

He wasn't sick and unbalanced?

He was a freakin terrorist

You think he was a sane man doing a sane action?

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

My opinioon is that his superiors didn’t understand just how mentally sick and unbalanced he was and like bureaucracies of any size, it is much easier to move a problem than deal with it yourself.

Holy #### man, open your eyes. Sick and unbalanced??? Holy ####

He wasn't sick and unbalanced?

He was a freakin terrorist

Are those mutually exclusive categories?

 

[SKribbles]

My opinioon is that his superiors didn’t understand just how mentally sick and unbalanced he was and like bureaucracies of any size, it is much easier to move a problem than deal with it yourself.

Holy #### man, open your eyes. Sick and unbalanced??? Holy ####

He wasn't sick and unbalanced?

He was a freakin terrorist

Yup. He joined the army 21 years ago just waiting for his chance.

 

[RBM]

My opinioon is that his superiors didn’t understand just how mentally sick and unbalanced he was and like bureaucracies of any size, it is much easier to move a problem than deal with it yourself.

Holy #### man, open your eyes. Sick and unbalanced??? Holy ####

He wasn't sick and unbalanced?

He was a freakin terrorist

You think he was a sane man doing a sane action?

I really dont care to delve into the psyche of a terrorist. You want to make excuses for the piece of crap, go right ahead. Enjoy yourself. Just dont open your eyes to what is glaring right in front of your face. You might insult somebody.

 

[Parrothead]

My opinioon is that his superiors didn’t understand just how mentally sick and unbalanced he was and like bureaucracies of any size, it is much easier to move a problem than deal with it yourself.

Holy #### man, open your eyes. Sick and unbalanced??? Holy ####

He wasn't sick and unbalanced?

He was a freakin terrorist

he was a sick and unbalanced terrorist..

 

[FavreCo]

My opinioon is that his superiors didn’t understand just how mentally sick and unbalanced he was and like bureaucracies of any size, it is much easier to move a problem than deal with it yourself.

Holy #### man, open your eyes. Sick and unbalanced??? Holy ####

He wasn't sick and unbalanced?

He was a freakin terrorist

Yup. He joined the army 21 years ago just waiting for his chance.

Regardless of when he joined, he is in fact a terrorist who committed by definition, a terrorist act.Members of Congress, particularly Michigan Rep. Peter Hoekstra, the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, have called for a full examination of what agencies knew about Hasan's contacts with a radical Muslim cleric and others of concern to the U.S. and what they did with the information.

Hoekstra confirmed this week that the government knew about 10 to 20 e-mails between Hasan and a radical imam, beginning in December 2008.

 

[SKribbles]

Holy #### man, open your eyes. Sick and unbalanced??? Holy ####

He wasn't sick and unbalanced?

He was a freakin terrorist

Yup. He joined the army 21 years ago just waiting for his chance.

Regardless of when he joined, he is in fact a terrorist who committed by definition, a terrorist act.Members of Congress, particularly Michigan Rep. Peter Hoekstra, the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, have called for a full examination of what agencies knew about Hasan's contacts with a radical Muslim cleric and others of concern to the U.S. and what they did with the information.

Hoekstra confirmed this week that the government knew about 10 to 20 e-mails between Hasan and a radical imam, beginning in December 2008.

Yup. Nothing could have happened in those 21 years. He was always a terrorist.

 

[Fennis]

I really dont care to delve into the psyche of a terrorist. You want to make excuses for the piece of crap, go right ahead. Enjoy yourself. Just dont open your eyes to what is glaring right in front of your face. You might insult somebody.

I don’t understand why the people in this thread have spent pages and pages railing against being PC, speak only in innuendo and winks and nods. If you have something to say, stop implying things and just say it. Also, if you don’t think it is important to understand motivation of criminals and why crimes happen, I don't know what to tell you other than it is really important in preventing future acts.

 

[RBM]

Yup. Nothing could have happened in those 21 years. He was always a terrorist.

WTH are you babbling about...why does it matter what happened?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Yup. Nothing could have happened in those 21 years. He was always a terrorist.

WTH are you babbling about...why does it matter what happened?

gaining a better understanding of what happened might help prevent similar situations in the future.

 

[Sand]

My opinioon is that his superiors didn’t understand just how mentally sick and unbalanced he was and like bureaucracies of any size, it is much easier to move a problem than deal with it yourself.

Holy #### man, open your eyes. Sick and unbalanced??? Holy ####

He wasn't sick and unbalanced?

I'd go with evil, myself.

 

[RBM]

I really dont care to delve into the psyche of a terrorist. You want to make excuses for the piece of crap, go right ahead. Enjoy yourself. Just dont open your eyes to what is glaring right in front of your face. You might insult somebody.

I don’t understand why the people in this thread have spent pages and pages railing against being PC, speak only in innuendo and winks and nods. f you have something to say, stop using implying things and just say it. Also, if you don’t think it is important to understand motivation of criminals and why crimes happen, I don’t know what to tell you other than it is really important in preventing future acts.

How many times can I say it? HE IS AN ISLAMIC TERRORIST!Sure its important to understand motivation of criminals, but we already know what motivates terrorists.

 

[RBM]

Yup. Nothing could have happened in those 21 years. He was always a terrorist.

WTH are you babbling about...why does it matter what happened?

gaining a better understanding of what happened might help prevent similar situations in the future.

Wait, after everything that has been reported about this story and this guy, you still dont understand what happened?Is that what you're really posting here?

 

[Parrothead]

Yup. Nothing could have happened in those 21 years. He was always a terrorist.

WTH are you babbling about...why does it matter what happened?

gaining a better understanding of what happened might help prevent similar situations in the future.

what we know

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Yup. Nothing could have happened in those 21 years. He was always a terrorist.

WTH are you babbling about...why does it matter what happened?

gaining a better understanding of what happened might help prevent similar situations in the future.

Wait, after everything that has been reported about this story and this guy, you still dont understand what happened?Is that what you're really posting here?

so you have all the answers?Not really sure what you're suggesting. If this could have been prevented, which it seems that it could have, why not discuss what went wrong here?

 

[RBM]

Yup. Nothing could have happened in those 21 years. He was always a terrorist.

WTH are you babbling about...why does it matter what happened?

gaining a better understanding of what happened might help prevent similar situations in the future.

Wait, after everything that has been reported about this story and this guy, you still dont understand what happened?Is that what you're really posting here?

so you have all the answers?Not really sure what you're suggesting. If this could have been prevented, which it seems that it could have, why not discuss what went wrong here?

What would you like to discuss? Why all the glaring signals were ignored? Why do you think they were?But Im not going to discuss this guy like he is some random nutjob that just snapped. Thats embarrasingly naive.

 

[Jackstraw]

Yup. Nothing could have happened in those 21 years. He was always a terrorist.

WTH are you babbling about...why does it matter what happened?

gaining a better understanding of what happened might help prevent similar situations in the future.

Wait, after everything that has been reported about this story and this guy, you still dont understand what happened?Is that what you're really posting here?

So whats your solution RBM? I agree I am hearing conservatives make lots of ciriticisms and allusions to what we may or may not do about it but they don't seem to want to spit it out.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

What would you like to discuss? Why all the glaring signals were ignored? Why do you think they were?

isn't this where you go on another rant about people being "too PC"?you said earlier "why does it matter what happened? He's a terrorist!" sounds like an open and shut case.

 

[RBM]

What would you like to discuss? Why all the glaring signals were ignored? Why do you think they were?

isn't this where you go on another rant about people being "too PC"?you said earlier "why does it matter what happened? He's a terrorist!" sounds like an open and shut case.

Why dont you answer my question as to why you think it was ignored?And the "why does it matter" was in reference to why this guy became the terrorist he is. That I dont care about, but Im sure some liberal flake will find a way to blame it on the United States, actually Im positive I have heard thats already started.

 

[jon_mx]

Given the latest news that Hasan had business cards printed up with "Soldier of Allah" printed on them along with his communications with radical Imams I think we can safely point in the direction of saying this was a terrorist attack. I was wondering when our security would slip enough to see another one - made it eight years. Hopefully next time we can make it at least nine.I am hoping we see terrorism charges appended to what he has been charged with so far. To not do so now reeks of the PC BS that earned us this travesty.

There was no "PC" business that "earned" us this travesty.

There is already info that suggest PC played a role. I see two reasons people looked the other way.1. People were afraid to look racists by trying to remove this guy2. Higher ups believed this guy was just looking for an out to going to combatfeel free to add more explanations. But this guy did everything he could to inform the world he was a jihadist. You are never going to get more red flags then this guy threw up.

My opinioon is that his superiors didn’t understand just how mentally sick and unbalanced he was and like bureaucracies of any size, it is much easier to move a problem than deal with it yourself.

I see an intelligent person who was brainwashed by Jihadist beliefs. I am not sure that means he was mentally sick. I think that absent of falling into these radical Islamics beliefs, he is a normal person. By your definition, everyone that is an Islamic is mentally sick. I think they are perfectly rationale people, but they have adopted an evil belief system.

 

[SKribbles]

Yup. Nothing could have happened in those 21 years. He was always a terrorist.

WTH are you babbling about...why does it matter what happened?

Agreed. What drove him to do this is completely irrelevant. He was planning this from his first day in the army.

 

[RBM]

Yup. Nothing could have happened in those 21 years. He was always a terrorist.

WTH are you babbling about...why does it matter what happened?

gaining a better understanding of what happened might help prevent similar situations in the future.

Wait, after everything that has been reported about this story and this guy, you still dont understand what happened?Is that what you're really posting here?

So whats your solution RBM? I agree I am hearing conservatives make lots of ciriticisms and allusions to what we may or may not do about it but they don't seem to want to spit it out.

Well hows this for a start. Lets try not to ignore multiple, GLARING warning signs. Sounds like a good idea no?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

What would you like to discuss? Why all the glaring signals were ignored? Why do you think they were?

isn't this where you go on another rant about people being "too PC"?you said earlier "why does it matter what happened? He's a terrorist!" sounds like an open and shut case.

Why dont you answer my question as to why you think it was ignored?And the "why does it matter" was in reference to why this guy became the terrorist he is. That I dont care about, but Im sure some liberal flake will find a way to blame it on the United States, actually Im positive I have heard thats already started.

I've already answered your question in this thread. Fennis said basically the same thing. I don't think people realized how far gone this guy really was or that he was capable of this. People chose the path of least resistance and chose to do nothing or push him off on someone else rather than take a stand and get involved.there is no excuse for what he did. he forfeits his right to life as far as I'm concerned. but, trying to figure out what went wrong or find solutions/ways to prevent this from happening again is not a bad thing to do either.

 

[Fennis]

Given the latest news that Hasan had business cards printed up with "Soldier of Allah" printed on them along with his communications with radical Imams I think we can safely point in the direction of saying this was a terrorist attack. I was wondering when our security would slip enough to see another one - made it eight years. Hopefully next time we can make it at least nine.I am hoping we see terrorism charges appended to what he has been charged with so far. To not do so now reeks of the PC BS that earned us this travesty.

There was no "PC" business that "earned" us this travesty.

There is already info that suggest PC played a role. I see two reasons people looked the other way.1. People were afraid to look racists by trying to remove this guy2. Higher ups believed this guy was just looking for an out to going to combatfeel free to add more explanations. But this guy did everything he could to inform the world he was a jihadist. You are never going to get more red flags then this guy threw up.

My opinioon is that his superiors didn’t understand just how mentally sick and unbalanced he was and like bureaucracies of any size, it is much easier to move a problem than deal with it yourself.

I see an intelligent person who was brainwashed by Jihadist beliefs. I am not sure that means he was mentally sick. I think that absent of falling into these radical Islamics beliefs, he is a normal person. By your definition, everyone that is an Islamic is mentally sick. I think they are perfectly rationale people, but they have adopted an evil belief system.

Anyone who grabs multiple guns and shoots 30+ innocent people in cold blood is mentally sick.

 

[RBM]

Yup. Nothing could have happened in those 21 years. He was always a terrorist.

WTH are you babbling about...why does it matter what happened?

Agreed. What drove him to do this is completely irrelevant. He was planning this from his first day in the army.

Religion of peace

 

[SKribbles]

Yup. Nothing could have happened in those 21 years. He was always a terrorist.

WTH are you babbling about...why does it matter what happened?

Agreed. What drove him to do this is completely irrelevant. He was planning this from his first day in the army.

Religion of peace

 

[RBM]

Anyone who grabs multiple guns and shoots 30+ innocent people in cold blood is mentally sick.

...or a terrorist

 

[RBM]

What would you like to discuss? Why all the glaring signals were ignored?

Why do you think they were?

isn't this where you go on another rant about people being "too PC"?you said earlier "why does it matter what happened? He's a terrorist!" sounds like an open and shut case.

Why dont you answer my question as to why you think it was ignored?And the "why does it matter" was in reference to why this guy became the terrorist he is. That I dont care about, but Im sure some liberal flake will find a way to blame it on the United States, actually Im positive I have heard thats already started.

I've already answered your question in this thread. Fennis said basically the same thing. I don't think people realized how far gone this guy really was or that he was capable of this. People chose the path of least resistance and chose to do nothing or push him off on someone else rather than take a stand and get involved.there is no excuse for what he did. he forfeits his right to life as far as I'm concerned. but, trying to figure out what went wrong or find solutions/ways to prevent this from happening again is not a bad thing to do either.

So all this was ignored and not taken serious because people didnt buy it, or think it was that big a deal? Ok, glad you're being honesthttp://www.sphere.com/2009/11/12/6-red-fla...fort-hood-case/

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Yup. Nothing could have happened in those 21 years. He was always a terrorist.

WTH are you babbling about...why does it matter what happened?

gaining a better understanding of what happened might help prevent similar situations in the future.

:(ignoring underlying factors and reasons is just ridiculous. It's not being PC. It's being smart. Things arent black and white and absolute.

 

[SKribbles]

Yup. Nothing could have happened in those 21 years. He was always a terrorist.

WTH are you babbling about...why does it matter what happened?

gaining a better understanding of what happened might help prevent similar situations in the future.

:(ignoring underlying factors and reasons is just ridiculous. It's not being PC. It's being smart. Things arent black and white and absolute.

It's easier for the bigots just to yell out terrorist though.

 

[jon_mx]

Anyone who grabs multiple guns and shoots 30+ innocent people in cold blood is mentally sick.

Is it possible it was just evil? Is all evil a mental illness? I think conservatives see a world where there is good and evil. Liberals see a world as either having liberal beliefs or being mentally ill.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

So all this was ignored and not taken serious because people didnt buy it, or think it was that big a deal? Ok, glad you're being honest

http://www.sphere.com/2009/11/12/6-red-fla...fort-hood-case/

:( what is your explanation? that every single person who knew about these flags and did nothing was being "too PC"?

if so, isn't that the same thing? I mean if they took it very seriously and thought it was a big deal, wouldn't that have overridden the need to appear politically correct? is being PC a greater motivator than stopping terrorism and saving lives?

 

[jon_mx]

Yup. Nothing could have happened in those 21 years. He was always a terrorist.

WTH are you babbling about...why does it matter what happened?

gaining a better understanding of what happened might help prevent similar situations in the future.

:(ignoring underlying factors and reasons is just ridiculous. It's not being PC. It's being smart. Things arent black and white and absolute.

It's easier for the bigots just to yell out terrorist though.

It is easier for liberals to yell out bigots whenever someone disagrees.

 

[Sand]

Anyone who grabs multiple guns and shoots 30+ innocent people in cold blood is mentally sick.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

Yup. Nothing could have happened in those 21 years. He was always a terrorist.

WTH are you babbling about...why does it matter what happened?

gaining a better understanding of what happened might help prevent similar situations in the future.

ignoring underlying factors and reasons is just ridiculous. It's not being PC. It's being smart. Things arent black and white and absolute.

It's easier for the bigots just to yell out terrorist though.

However, if it were an act of terror, would those people be bigots for saying what it was? What his name is or what he looks like doesn't matter to me. The fact that a bunch of people are dead is what bothers me. The fact that warning signs appeared to have been ignored leading to those senseless deaths bothers me. Was he a jihadist? i guess an investigation into the contacts he made will tell.Curious if the fact that the people who died were on a military base/associated with the military makes this more palatable for some? From what I am reading from both sides, the right is quick to pull the terroist card and the left is quick to pull the bigot card. Who is pulling the "that guy is scumbag" card?

 

[SKribbles]

However, if it were an act of terror, would those people be bigots for saying what it was? What his name is or what he looks like doesn't matter to me. The fact that a bunch of people are dead is what bothers me. The fact that warning signs appeared to have been ignored leading to those senseless deaths bothers me. Was he a jihadist? i guess an investigation into the contacts he made will tell.Curious if the fact that the people who died were on a military base/associated with the military makes this more palatable for some? From what I am reading from both sides, the right is quick to pull the terroist card and the left is quick to pull the bigot card. Who is pulling the "that guy is scumbag" card?

I'm pretty sure everyone is agreeing that the guy was a piece of ####. Some people would like to know what made this guy snap. Others would like to rant and rave about terrorists and islam.

 

[RBM]

So all this was ignored and not taken serious because people didnt buy it, or think it was that big a deal? Ok, glad you're being honest

http://www.sphere.com/2009/11/12/6-red-fla...fort-hood-case/

what is your explanation? that every single person who knew about these flags and did nothing was being "too PC"?

if so, isn't that the same thing? I mean if they took it very seriously and thought it was a big deal, wouldn't that have overridden the need to appear politically correct? is being PC a greater motivator than stopping terrorism and saving lives?

Frightening thought isnt it?Ok so we agree that political correctness is the real problem here. We're making progress.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Ok so we agree that political correctness is the real problem here. We're making progress.

 

[RBM]

However, if it were an act of terror, would those people be bigots for saying what it was? What his name is or what he looks like doesn't matter to me. The fact that a bunch of people are dead is what bothers me. The fact that warning signs appeared to have been ignored leading to those senseless deaths bothers me. Was he a jihadist? i guess an investigation into the contacts he made will tell.Curious if the fact that the people who died were on a military base/associated with the military makes this more palatable for some? From what I am reading from both sides, the right is quick to pull the terroist card and the left is quick to pull the bigot card. Who is pulling the "that guy is scumbag" card?

I'm pretty sure everyone is agreeing that the guy was a piece of ####. Some people would like to know what made this guy snap. Others would like to rant and rave about terrorists and islam.

Ha Terrorism and islam IS what made the guy snap. Follow?

 

[SKribbles]

It is easier for liberals to yell out bigots whenever someone disagrees.

Can you please tell me exactly what a liberal is and what they believe in? I think you're labeling me as one based on a couple posts but I'd really like to know more about it.

 

[SKribbles]

However, if it were an act of terror, would those people be bigots for saying what it was? What his name is or what he looks like doesn't matter to me. The fact that a bunch of people are dead is what bothers me. The fact that warning signs appeared to have been ignored leading to those senseless deaths bothers me. Was he a jihadist? i guess an investigation into the contacts he made will tell.

Curious if the fact that the people who died were on a military base/associated with the military makes this more palatable for some? From what I am reading from both sides, the right is quick to pull the terroist card and the left is quick to pull the bigot card. Who is pulling the "that guy is scumbag" card?

I'm pretty sure everyone is agreeing that the guy was a piece of ####. Some people would like to know what made this guy snap. Others would like to rant and rave about terrorists and islam.

Ha Terrorism and islam IS what made the guy snap. Follow?

X

 

[RBM]

Ok so we agree that political correctness is the real problem here. We're making progress.

Yea, Im fishing with that comment but the flakes that are pulling the "lets figure out why he randomly snapped one day" arent fishing. Some view you've got there man.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Ok so we agree that political correctness is the real problem here. We're making progress.

Yea, Im fishing with that comment but the flakes that are pulling the "lets figure out why he randomly snapped one day" arent fishing. Some view you've got there man.

I don't have any idea what you're trying to say in here.

 

[RBM]

However, if it were an act of terror, would those people be bigots for saying what it was? What his name is or what he looks like doesn't matter to me. The fact that a bunch of people are dead is what bothers me. The fact that warning signs appeared to have been ignored leading to those senseless deaths bothers me. Was he a jihadist? i guess an investigation into the contacts he made will tell.

Curious if the fact that the people who died were on a military base/associated with the military makes this more palatable for some? From what I am reading from both sides, the right is quick to pull the terroist card and the left is quick to pull the bigot card. Who is pulling the "that guy is scumbag" card?

I'm pretty sure everyone is agreeing that the guy was a piece of ####. Some people would like to know what made this guy snap. Others would like to rant and rave about terrorists and islam.

Ha Terrorism and islam IS what made the guy snap. Follow?

X

How insensitive of me. Thats right, there is no such thing as terrorists.

 

[urbanhack]

Ok so we agree that political correctness is the real problem here. We're making progress.

Yea, Im fishing with that comment but the flakes that are pulling the "lets figure out why he randomly snapped one day" arent fishing. Some view you've got there man.

Surprised you aren't throwing around the "TH" slur like did on the other board. You are being too PC.

 

[RBM]

Ok so we agree that political correctness is the real problem here. We're making progress.

Yea, Im fishing with that comment but the flakes that are pulling the "lets figure out why he randomly snapped one day" arent fishing. Some view you've got there man.

I don't have any idea what you're trying to say in here.

I think Ive forgotten myself.

 

[RBM]

Ok so we agree that political correctness is the real problem here. We're making progress.

Yea, Im fishing with that comment but the flakes that are pulling the "lets figure out why he randomly snapped one day" arent fishing. Some view you've got there man.

Surprised you aren't throwing around the "TH" slur like did on the other board. You are being too PC.

You like that one?

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

Ok so we agree that political correctness is the real problem here. We're making progress.

Just let him go. It is like talking to a wall.

 

[Fennis]

Anyone who grabs multiple guns and shoots 30+ innocent people in cold blood is mentally sick.

I'm not sure what those emoticons mean. Try expressing yourself with words.