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Shooting at Texas school - Kids among victims (1 Viewer)

According to CBS Texas Gov is confirming 14 students and one adult dead.  Shooter dead, 18 years old.  CBS on twitter.

I hate these events so much.

 
As I understand it, the shooter was a teenager who was wanted for allegedly shooting his grandmother. Not clear to me if he targeted the school or if that was where he happened to run into while trying to evade capture. I suppose it doesn't really matter.

 
Glad I'm not a parent. These days it really becomes what's the price you're willing to gamble to bet that your kid can make it through 13, 14 years of public schooling (not even including college) without being chosen by the universe to experience one of these events.

 
ShamrockPride said:
Glad I'm not a parent. These days it really becomes what's the price you're willing to gamble to bet that your kid can make it through 13, 14 years of public schooling (not even including college) without being chosen by the universe to experience one of these events.
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I agree.
And it's not like the universe set down a tornado, earthquake or hurricane; it's 100% preventable.

 
Unreal.  I'll reserve the majority of my comments for the eventual PSF thread.  But God rest those poor souls.

 
Chris B. said:
An 18 year old went after elementary school kids!?!?! The heck... :(  
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Yeah, not that anything about this makes sense but why go to an elementary school and do this?  You would think if he was angry enough to do this he would go to his own school.  Just awful.

 
ShamrockPride said:
Glad I'm not a parent. These days it really becomes what's the price you're willing to gamble to bet that your kid can make it through 13, 14 years of public schooling (not even including college) without being chosen by the universe to experience one of these events.
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It's very sad.  Only consolation I have is that Putin is doing this to 10x people on a daily basis.

 
Cue the Onion headline.  

So sick of “thoughts and prayers” followed by no significant changes because of the gun lobby.  🤬🤬🤬

 
Damn...death toll has risen.  CNN TV ticker now says 18 children.   :(

ETA...live press conference now...only confirmed shooter is dead and last few days of school/events cancelled.  Very short press conference.

 
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Osaurus said:
The frequency of these events is sickening 
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posted in the other thread:

This marks at least the 30th shooting at a K-12 school in 2022. 

Looked at our school calendar to subtract holidays and break - 94 school days.

That’s where we are at right now; a school shooting every third day.

We account for 4.25% of the world’s population and 70% of the mass shootings in K-12 schools.

Galileo said:
CNN is reporting 2 adults.  I don't know if they are including the shooter, but they were not earlier, so I am thinking there are 2 adults other than the shooter.  There are also a couple in critical condition.
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Shooter’s grandmother, presumably (offsite beforehand.)

 
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nirad3 said:
As the proud dad of a 3rd and 5th grader, this just gnarls my stomach up.
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My 8th grader was in full time preschool when Sandy Hook happened. December will mark a decade since that happened.

I became numb after that happened and we did nothing. If 26 kindergarteners won’t provide enough will for change, I suspect nothing ever will.

I wish I were wrong.

 
BobbyLayne said:
My 8th grader was in full time preschool when Sandy Hook happened. December will mark a decade since that happened.

I became numb after that happened and we did nothing. If 26 kindergarteners won’t provide enough will for change, I suspect nothing ever will.

I wish I were wrong.
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Sadly....I feel the exact same way.

I mean....what's it gonna take? One of these every year? Every month?

Disgusted.

 
menobrown said:
Along these lines  I just posted in another thread that I just read in developed countries 87% of children up to age 14 who are killed by guns are American.
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There’s an argument being made in the PSF the U.S. has fewer shootings per capita (or per gun) which is cute.

Like between Columbine and Sand Hook there were 31 mass shootings in the U.S. (and to repeat, 30 in less than half a year in 2022.) In the rest of the world during that 13 year period, there were 14 K-12 mass shootings. Rest of the World combined.

We don’t even know how many guns are in the U.S. I owned several firearms (long rifles) in Michigan from age 10 to age 37 - none were registered, nor required to be. So maybe we have 300Mn, or it might be 450Mn, or it might be…you get the idea.

IDK the answer. It is exhausting and emotionally draining even contemplating it. I just don’t know how we ever get a handle on this. It’s at an endemic level, it’s the number one cause of death for children, and we do nothing.

 
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mr. furley said:
definitely makes a parent consider pulling his kids from school and just going homeschool for the duration
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Understandable but are you going to also stop them from driving, swimming, going grocery shopping, etc. These events are awful but schools are generally safe. These random attacks are absolutely horrific and should not happen but are really small in the grand scheme of ways kids lived are in danger. 

fruity pebbles said:
I just can’t, my God. I don’t understand shooting anyone but 7 and 8 year olds? They’re babies.
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The shooter sounds like a HS student so he's basically a kid himself. The mental health of our youth is really bad. It was bad pre-COVID and that accelerated it. I don't think people fully understand how toxic of an environment we have created for our youth. 

 
Ilov80s said:
Understandable but are you going to also stop them from driving, swimming, going grocery shopping, etc. These events are awful but schools are generally safe. These random attacks are absolutely horrific and should not happen but are really small in the grand scheme of ways kids lived are in danger. 
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i don't know what the statistics are on mass shootings of children say about where they happen most often, but it sure feels like "school" is in the top 2-3.

kids targeting other kids. they go where they are familiar, where they feel the most anger, where the targets are easiest feels like.

obviously statistically there's an extremely small chance of this happening but as a parent i can't help but feel i'd like the chances to be zero.  

a friend of mine just lost her 17 year old son to a shooting. absolutely soul eviscerating. she is rending herself to bits because she couldn't prevent it. she wasn't there and couldn't stop it. she couldn't shelter him forever. that doesn't mean she doesn't feel a failure and that she doesn't wish she could have done something to protect him. it's an animal instinct to want to protect one's offspring even if the odds are extremely small of something like this happening... hell, i feel absolutely ####### horrible if my kid so much as stubs a toe and i didn't do everything i could have done to prevent it.

:shrug:

 
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WH Reporter Natasha Bertrand reporting the shooter crashed his car near the school. When he got out,  he was engaged by law enforcement but wearing body armor, he was able to make his way into school anyway. There he went classroom to classrooom shooting. 

 
mr. furley said:
i don't know what the statistics are on mass shootings of children say about where they happen most often, but it sure feels like "school" is in the top 2-3.

kids targeting other kids. they go where they are familiar, where they feel the most anger, where the targets are easiest feels like.

obviously statistically there's an extremely small chance of this happening but as a parent i can't help but feel i'd like the chances to be zero.  
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I am a teacher. Oxofrd is an hour from where I teach. I get it. I've never once felt unsafe but like a serial killer or child kidnapper, the danger does exist. I've lost many more students to drugs and car wrecks. I've lost a few to shootings but it was always outside of school. As a teacher, this kind of thing never gets any easier. I am sure it's the same as a parent. 

 
Jayrod said:
I thought there was no way this could be true, but holy crap it is. Both firearms and drug ODs have risen sharply over last 2 years and guns passed car crashes (which has been on steady decline and was #1 by a large margin for decades).
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Yeah took the number 1 spot in 2020 I believe. Kid weren't even in school for the most part then. I again reiterate, we have created a totally toxic society for kids. 

 
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