James Daulton
Footballguy
Had plan with the family to get there at 2 today then head to the movies.
F'ing whole country is going to hell.
F'ing whole country is going to hell.
AK-47's for everyone
Good lord. Glad you are okay. Scary stuff.Small world to see this here. My son and I walked in to the macys about 10 steps when a deluge of people rushed our way saying shots had been heard. Didn't immediately believe them but after they pummeled eachother through the exit, I scooped the boy put of there.
Sounds like domestic issue went off in the food court and 3 dead.
I go to the mall roughly twice a year.
Wow. That's scary. I'm glad you are safe.Small world to see this here. My son and I walked in to the macys about 10 steps when a deluge of people rushed our way saying shots had been heard. Didn't immediately believe them but after they pummeled eachother through the exit, I scooped the boy put of there.
Sounds like domestic issue went off in the food court and 3 dead.
I go to the mall roughly twice a year.
You can't even take 20 minutes off from being a complete #######?AK-47's for everyone
You don't think the anti-gun people out there are within their rights for expressing their frustration with this? I mean....come on. We want to know what it will take for America to rethink its stance on gun control because if Sandy Hook didn't do it, we don't know what will. Forgive TG for expressing his emotions through irreverent choices. Guys like us are just....we're ####### tired of this ####. We've been tired of this ####. For decades. It's tragic and it sucks, but I for one am exhausted at typing out compassionate words of sorrow when these shootings happen every other week, with varying degrees of tragic horror. And yet we do nothing. Nothing.You can't even take 20 minutes off from being a complete #######?AK-47's for everyone
GreatYou don't think the anti-gun people out there are within their rights for expressing their frustration with this? I mean....come on. We want to know what it will take for America to rethink its stance on gun control because if Sandy Hook didn't do it, we don't know what will. Forgive TG for expressing his emotions through irreverent choices. Guys like us are just....we're ####### tired of this ####. We've been tired of this ####. For decades. It's tragic and it sucks, but I for one am exhausted at typing out compassionate words of sorrow when these shootings happen every other week, with varying degrees of tragic horror. And yet we do nothing. Nothing.You can't even take 20 minutes off from being a complete #######?AK-47's for everyone
Wow. One of the best posts I have read here in a very long time. Well stated.You don't think the anti-gun people out there are within their rights for expressing their frustration with this? I mean....come on. We want to know what it will take for America to rethink its stance on gun control because if Sandy Hook didn't do it, we don't know what will. Forgive TG for expressing his emotions through irreverent choices. Guys like us are just....we're ####### tired of this ####. We've been tired of this ####. For decades. It's tragic and it sucks, but I for one am exhausted at typing out compassionate words of sorrow when these shootings happen every other week, with varying degrees of tragic horror. And yet we do nothing. Nothing.You can't even take 20 minutes off from being a complete #######?AK-47's for everyone
It's a terrible post, rivaled only by TG's awful one preceeding it. You want to rant, put it in the gun control policy debate thread. It's terrible for plenty of other reasons, but I don't want to violate my previous sentence myself.Wow. One of the best posts I have read here in a very long time. Well stated.You don't think the anti-gun people out there are within their rights for expressing their frustration with this? I mean....come on. We want to know what it will take for America to rethink its stance on gun control because if Sandy Hook didn't do it, we don't know what will. Forgive TG for expressing his emotions through irreverent choices. Guys like us are just....we're ####### tired of this ####. We've been tired of this ####. For decades. It's tragic and it sucks, but I for one am exhausted at typing out compassionate words of sorrow when these shootings happen every other week, with varying degrees of tragic horror. And yet we do nothing. Nothing.You can't even take 20 minutes off from being a complete #######?AK-47's for everyone
You don't think there's a better way and time to do so? Do you really think a stupid comment like his is going to lead to anything productive happening?You don't think the anti-gun people out there are within their rights for expressing their frustration with this? I mean....come on. We want to know what it will take for America to rethink its stance on gun control because if Sandy Hook didn't do it, we don't know what will. Forgive TG for expressing his emotions through irreverent choices. Guys like us are just....we're ####### tired of this ####. We've been tired of this ####. For decades. It's tragic and it sucks, but I for one am exhausted at typing out compassionate words of sorrow when these shootings happen every other week, with varying degrees of tragic horror. And yet we do nothing. Nothing.You can't even take 20 minutes off from being a complete #######?AK-47's for everyone
While I agree with your frustration. What are you proposing? Americans give up all guns? The way Americans gave up some of their rights in the name of a war on terror? How has that been working out?You don't think the anti-gun people out there are within their rights for expressing their frustration with this? I mean....come on. We want to know what it will take for America to rethink its stance on gun control because if Sandy Hook didn't do it, we don't know what will. Forgive TG for expressing his emotions through irreverent choices. Guys like us are just....we're ####### tired of this ####. We've been tired of this ####. For decades. It's tragic and it sucks, but I for one am exhausted at typing out compassionate words of sorrow when these shootings happen every other week, with varying degrees of tragic horror. And yet we do nothing. Nothing.You can't even take 20 minutes off from being a complete #######?AK-47's for everyone
Theres not been another 9/11 for over a decade now if only there weren't another mass shooting for over a decade.While I agree with your frustration. What are you proposing? Americans give up all guns? The way Americans gave up some of their rights in the name of a war on terror? How has that been working out?I don't see the anti-gun crowd coming up with any better solutions than the pro-gun crowd.You don't think the anti-gun people out there are within their rights for expressing their frustration with this? I mean....come on. We want to know what it will take for America to rethink its stance on gun control because if Sandy Hook didn't do it, we don't know what will. Forgive TG for expressing his emotions through irreverent choices. Guys like us are just....we're ####### tired of this ####. We've been tired of this ####. For decades. It's tragic and it sucks, but I for one am exhausted at typing out compassionate words of sorrow when these shootings happen every other week, with varying degrees of tragic horror. And yet we do nothing. Nothing.You can't even take 20 minutes off from being a complete #######?AK-47's for everyone
. As if this crap does not go on all over the world. We just hear mostly about stuff here. The world is full of nut jobs. Besides being impossible, getting rid of guns solves nothing. There will always be crackpots who can find ways to kill people.You can't even take 20 minutes off from being a complete #######?AK-47's for everyone
To be fair....this could have been done with knives, rocks, metal folding chairs or frying pans......You prepared to legislate all those things away too?You don't think the anti-gun people out there are within their rights for expressing their frustration with this? I mean....come on. We want to know what it will take for America to rethink its stance on gun control because if Sandy Hook didn't do it, we don't know what will. Forgive TG for expressing his emotions through irreverent choices. Guys like us are just....we're ####### tired of this ####. We've been tired of this ####. For decades. It's tragic and it sucks, but I for one am exhausted at typing out compassionate words of sorrow when these shootings happen every other week, with varying degrees of tragic horror. And yet we do nothing. Nothing.You can't even take 20 minutes off from being a complete #######?AK-47's for everyone
Yes, judging from your comments it's clear you both are only interested in having a rational discussion about gun control.It's disrespectful to talk about gun control right after a mass shooting! Please continue to table the discussion until all mass shootings have stopped or everyone is dead.
Universal background checks.While I agree with your frustration. What are you proposing? Americans give up all guns? The way Americans gave up some of their rights in the name of a war on terror? How has that been working out?I don't see the anti-gun crowd coming up with any better solutions than the pro-gun crowd.You don't think the anti-gun people out there are within their rights for expressing their frustration with this? I mean....come on. We want to know what it will take for America to rethink its stance on gun control because if Sandy Hook didn't do it, we don't know what will. Forgive TG for expressing his emotions through irreverent choices. Guys like us are just....we're ####### tired of this ####. We've been tired of this ####. For decades. It's tragic and it sucks, but I for one am exhausted at typing out compassionate words of sorrow when these shootings happen every other week, with varying degrees of tragic horror. And yet we do nothing. Nothing.You can't even take 20 minutes off from being a complete #######?AK-47's for everyone
I think these are very good points.So despite statistics that show violent crime is down across the board (at least our current administration tells us), everyone is all upset that this is some kind of new trend?
Not to sound harsh, but this is just like the media's coverage of the Shark Attacks in 2001. Every time a person was attacked, it was the top story on the news that night and people saw it as an epidemic. Yet, when all was said and done and the numbers tallied up, the numbers were no higher than they were the years before,
I think that (taking some of the more abhorrent crimes out of the mix Sandy Hook for example) these random shooting were 3-4 people are killed are not anything new and not some kind of trend, but just something the media latches on to and reports with screaming headlines to incite people and drive ratings.
Again just my .02.
It's no sweat as I've now been assured by Courtjester that this is no big deal. Stupid media!Yes, judging from your comments it's clear you both are only interested in having a rational discussion about gun control.It's disrespectful to talk about gun control right after a mass shooting! Please continue to table the discussion until all mass shootings have stopped or everyone is dead.
Glad you weren't having lunch there today, btw.
But it's pretty clear old Tom Jefferson wanted all the crazies to have high capacity machine guns.Universal background checks.While I agree with your frustration. What are you proposing? Americans give up all guns? The way Americans gave up some of their rights in the name of a war on terror? How has that been working out?I don't see the anti-gun crowd coming up with any better solutions than the pro-gun crowd.You don't think the anti-gun people out there are within their rights for expressing their frustration with this? I mean....come on. We want to know what it will take for America to rethink its stance on gun control because if Sandy Hook didn't do it, we don't know what will. Forgive TG for expressing his emotions through irreverent choices. Guys like us are just....we're ####### tired of this ####. We've been tired of this ####. For decades. It's tragic and it sucks, but I for one am exhausted at typing out compassionate words of sorrow when these shootings happen every other week, with varying degrees of tragic horror. And yet we do nothing. Nothing.You can't even take 20 minutes off from being a complete #######?AK-47's for everyone
Magazine limits.
Assault Rifle ban.
Your turn.
Why? Why is it always "bad taste" to discuss these issues when an event like this occurs? Why do people (usually conservatives) always insist we use "discretion" and then get outraged anytime somebody mentions gun control? Frankly I'm sick of it.It's a terrible post, rivaled only by TG's awful one preceeding it. You want to rant, put it in the gun control policy debate thread. It's terrible for plenty of other reasons, but I don't want to violate my previous sentence myself.Wow. One of the best posts I have read here in a very long time. Well stated.You don't think the anti-gun people out there are within their rights for expressing their frustration with this? I mean....come on. We want to know what it will take for America to rethink its stance on gun control because if Sandy Hook didn't do it, we don't know what will. Forgive TG for expressing his emotions through irreverent choices. Guys like us are just....we're ####### tired of this ####. We've been tired of this ####. For decades. It's tragic and it sucks, but I for one am exhausted at typing out compassionate words of sorrow when these shootings happen every other week, with varying degrees of tragic horror. And yet we do nothing. Nothing.You can't even take 20 minutes off from being a complete #######?AK-47's for everyone
Please make me laugh more - Tell me what an assault rifle is. No need to capitalize the first letters either.Universal background checks.While I agree with your frustration. What are you proposing? Americans give up all guns? The way Americans gave up some of their rights in the name of a war on terror? How has that been working out?I don't see the anti-gun crowd coming up with any better solutions than the pro-gun crowd.You don't think the anti-gun people out there are within their rights for expressing their frustration with this? I mean....come on. We want to know what it will take for America to rethink its stance on gun control because if Sandy Hook didn't do it, we don't know what will. Forgive TG for expressing his emotions through irreverent choices. Guys like us are just....we're ####### tired of this ####. We've been tired of this ####. For decades. It's tragic and it sucks, but I for one am exhausted at typing out compassionate words of sorrow when these shootings happen every other week, with varying degrees of tragic horror. And yet we do nothing. Nothing.You can't even take 20 minutes off from being a complete #######?AK-47's for everyone
Magazine limits.
Assault Rifle ban.
Your turn.
You should start your own thread on it, imo.Why? Why is it always "bad taste" to discuss these issues when an event like this occurs? Why do people (usually conservatives) always insist we use "discretion" and then get outraged anytime somebody mentions gun control? Frankly I'm sick of it.It's a terrible post, rivaled only by TG's awful one preceeding it. You want to rant, put it in the gun control policy debate thread. It's terrible for plenty of other reasons, but I don't want to violate my previous sentence myself.Wow. One of the best posts I have read here in a very long time. Well stated.You don't think the anti-gun people out there are within their rights for expressing their frustration with this? I mean....come on. We want to know what it will take for America to rethink its stance on gun control because if Sandy Hook didn't do it, we don't know what will. Forgive TG for expressing his emotions through irreverent choices. Guys like us are just....we're ####### tired of this ####. We've been tired of this ####. For decades. It's tragic and it sucks, but I for one am exhausted at typing out compassionate words of sorrow when these shootings happen every other week, with varying degrees of tragic horror. And yet we do nothing. Nothing.You can't even take 20 minutes off from being a complete #######?AK-47's for everyone
I don't pretend to have the answers. Court Jester just made some excellent points in opposition to anything that might be proposed, and he very well may be right. But please stop telling us we can't even have the discussion. It's absolutely appropriate, and not in bad taste at all, to talk about guns during incidents like these. GM's post was excellent because he expressed the frustration that most of us feel.
No, we should discuss it HERE.You should start your own thread on it, imo.Why? Why is it always "bad taste" to discuss these issues when an event like this occurs? Why do people (usually conservatives) always insist we use "discretion" and then get outraged anytime somebody mentions gun control? Frankly I'm sick of it.It's a terrible post, rivaled only by TG's awful one preceeding it. You want to rant, put it in the gun control policy debate thread. It's terrible for plenty of other reasons, but I don't want to violate my previous sentence myself.Wow. One of the best posts I have read here in a very long time. Well stated.You don't think the anti-gun people out there are within their rights for expressing their frustration with this? I mean....come on. We want to know what it will take for America to rethink its stance on gun control because if Sandy Hook didn't do it, we don't know what will. Forgive TG for expressing his emotions through irreverent choices. Guys like us are just....we're ####### tired of this ####. We've been tired of this ####. For decades. It's tragic and it sucks, but I for one am exhausted at typing out compassionate words of sorrow when these shootings happen every other week, with varying degrees of tragic horror. And yet we do nothing. Nothing.You can't even take 20 minutes off from being a complete #######?AK-47's for everyone
I don't pretend to have the answers. Court Jester just made some excellent points in opposition to anything that might be proposed, and he very well may be right. But please stop telling us we can't even have the discussion. It's absolutely appropriate, and not in bad taste at all, to talk about guns during incidents like these. GM's post was excellent because he expressed the frustration that most of us feel.
Whether it's a new trend or not, there are ways to make it less likely, and we keep refusing to do them. One obvious means of reducing gun violence is to have background checks on all gun purchases and transfers without exception. Another way is to have universal registration of all firearms owned in this country.So despite statistics that show violent crime is down across the board (at least our current administration tells us), everyone is all upset that this is some kind of new trend?
Not to sound harsh, but this is just like the media's coverage of the Shark Attacks in 2001. Every time a person was attacked, it was the top story on the news that night and people saw it as an epidemic. Yet, when all was said and done and the numbers tallied up, the numbers were no higher than they were the years before,
I think that (taking some of the more abhorrent crimes out of the mix Sandy Hook for example) these random shooting were 3-4 people are killed are not anything new and not some kind of trend, but just something the media latches on to and reports with screaming headlines to incite people and drive ratings.
Again just my .02.
Didn't take long for you to focus on it either. Who the #### cares?Member name Posts timschochet 7 JZilla 6 James Daulton 4 Dr Oadi 3 General Malaise 3 STEADYMOBBIN 22 3 humpback 3 Leeroy Jenkins 2 jon_mx 1 tommyGunZ 1 ClownCausedChaos2 1 Terpman22 1 KCitons 1 bushdocda 1 Buckfast 1 1 Arizona Ron 1 fantasycurse42 1 Courtjester 1 Thunderlips 1 Rich Conway 1 Ramblin Wreck 1 Doctor Detroit 1
That didn't take long.
fixed that for ya'. They, after all, started the discussion.Any other information on the mall shooting or is this thread already been taken over by the gun control freaks?
Wow, that's nuts. Glad you weren't around there just a few minutes earlier.Small world to see this here. My son and I walked in to the macys about 10 steps when a deluge of people rushed our way saying shots had been heard. Didn't immediately believe them but after they pummeled eachother through the exit, I scooped the boy put of there.
Sounds like domestic issue went off in the food court and 3 dead.
I go to the mall roughly twice a year.