This. I'm with Mayor Pete on this. In, no. Out, yes.We should distinguish between "while incarcerated" and "after released."
Out of curiosity, why do you prefer lifetime disenfranchisement?Not while incarcerated.
I can see an argument for allowing them to vote after their release, but I prefer lifetime disenfranchisement.
April in the year before the election is like April in this year's football season. People are scrambling for any bit of news and they overreact to the slightest story.What I don’t understand is why people consider this issue to be vital in some way. I read that after Bernie Sanders said the other night that felons in prison should be allowed to vote, he lost some of his support.
Now I am not a particular fan of Bernie; he’s not my first choice and I won’t vote for him in the primaries. But why would you stop supporting him based on his position about this?? Especially if you agreed with him enough on the important stuff (education, trade, healthcare etc.) to have supported him in the first place? I don’t get it.
I think some people just respond hyper-emotionally: THE BOSTON BOMBER SHOULDN'T GET RIGHTS!!!What I don’t understand is why people consider this issue to be vital in some way. I read that after Bernie Sanders said the other night that felons in prison should be allowed to vote, he lost some of his support.
Now I am not a particular fan of Bernie; he’s not my first choice and I won’t vote for him in the primaries. But why would you stop supporting him based on his position about this?? Especially if you agreed with him enough on the important stuff (education, trade, healthcare etc.) to have supported him in the first place? I don’t get it.
People who can't obey the law shouldn't be in a position to make policy for others.Out of curiosity, why do you prefer lifetime disenfranchisement?
Bit of a slippery slope there with "people who can't obey the law", no? You go down the rabbit hole, and you're left parsing the seriousness of crimes? Felony is a tidy cutoff, I guess, but in my mind there's a big difference between a felony drug charge and, like, a serial murderer. I get where you're coming from, and it's reasonable, I just have a problem in general with people who live in our society, contribute to our society, pay taxes, etc., having no vote representation. Then again, I don't understand why green card holders and visa holders legally residing in the US can't vote in federal elections either.People who can't obey the law shouldn't be in a position to make policy for others.
I'm like tim in the sense that this isn't the sort of thing I lose sleep over, but ex-felons are a population that I'm very comfortable excluding from the electorate.
Yeah, I think "felony" is a good enough cut-off. I agree with you on drug laws, but that's a problem with our drug laws that needs to be fixed.Bit of a slippery slope there with "people who can't obey the law", no? You go down the rabbit hole, and you're left parsing the seriousness of crimes? Felony is a tidy cutoff, I guess, but in my mind there's a big difference between a felony drug charge and, like, a serial murderer. I get where you're coming from, and it's reasonable, I just have a problem in general with people who live in our society, contribute to our society, pay taxes, etc., having no vote representation. Then again, I don't understand why green card holders and visa holders legally residing in the US can't vote in federal elections either.
It's not really a tidy cutoff when different states often have different definitions of A) what constitutes a felony, and B) what constitutes the kind of felony that should result in disenfranchisement, and C) how long that disenfranchisement should last.Felony is a tidy cutoff, I guess
Also, the felony.We should distinguish between "while incarcerated" and "after released."
Taking the vote away should be a consequence for committing a felony.It seems like prisoners of all people have a very pronounced interest in their government. Taking the vote away from them is just trying to tip the scales towards your desired policy outcomes.
No... why?We should distinguish between "while incarcerated" and "after released."
Good point - April is gave away month. All the Ds are promising the world in an effort to get some momentum/traction.April in the year before the election is like April in this year's football season. People are scrambling for any bit of news and they overreact to the slightest story.
Plus, the people reporting how many voters he lost have a vested interest in making you say, "I don't get it. Let me find out more". And even more of a vested interest if they can get you angry about it.
Because many people's opinions are different based on whether the person has completed their sentence, so without making that distinction people don't know how to vote in your poll?No... why?
Here's the flip side of that rhetorical tactic.I think some people just respond hyper-emotionally: THE BOSTON BOMBER SHOULDN'T GET RIGHTS!!!
This isn’t really a justification.Taking the vote away should be a consequence for committing a felony.
HiThose who think a jeffery Dahmer should have a vote, please talk to me.
So you support a racists who said sorry?Because many people's opinions are different based on whether the person has completed their sentence, so without making that distinction people don't know how to vote in your poll?
I thought that was obvious
What are we going to talk about?Maybe has a point and case.
Those who think a jeffery Dahmer should have a vote, please talk to me.
You dont because its outrageous.
Stop playing the card.
I know the left side doesntSo people know what question they're answering.
Purple monkey dishwasher?So you support a racists who said sorry?
Some people believe that the right to vote should be as fundamental as the right to free speech.Maybe has a point and case.
Those who think a jeffery Dahmer should have a vote, please talk to me.
You dont because its outrageous.
Stop playing the card.
It's clear. Felons... do they need a vote?What are we going to talk about?
Day drinking is not a good look for anyone.when do you support pedophilia. Oh what... you already do
Why?Not while incarcerated.
I can see an argument for allowing them to vote after their release, but I prefer lifetime disenfranchisement.
Also, should they pay taxes?It's clear. Felons... do they need a vote?
So you support pedophilia? Not putting that o. you alone, but does a pedo deserve a vote?Some people believe that the right to vote should be as fundamental as the right to free speech.
We live in a country where basic rights are bestowed equally upon the deserving and the undeserving.
That's what makes us better than most other countries.
You asked two different questions again.So you support pedophilia? Not putting that o. you alone, but does a pedo deserve a vote?
Let's not give anything other than a yes no here
Deflect... $$$Day drinking is not a good look for anyone.