Should I warn other owner? (1 Viewer)

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

The more I think about this, the more I think the OP probably benefited from this.

Sounds like the OP most definitely did not benefit from this...The more I think about this, the more I think fantasy football isn't for those of you who get pissed off when you fail to obtain a cheap playoff victory just because your opponent takes the inactive players out of his lineup in exchange for ones who are actually playing.If you can't win your playoff game unless your opponent starts an inactive Adrian Peterson on game day, because he's busy doing something productive like say working, then you really shouldn't be whining about it and embarassing yourself.As an alternative to crying like a little girl, I'ld recommend drafting a better team and outscoring your opponent next time chief. And for the rest of you getting all hot and bothered over this scenario, remember this is not a matter of national security. It's a freakin' hobby/game, a source of enjoyment and excitement to enhance your enjoyment of the NFL. Those of you who treat it like it's a theater of war with life and death at stake here, really need to take a deep breath and reassess whether fantasy football is something you should be engaging in. Especially if it causes you to bash someone for exhibiting good sportsmanship, and extoll the virtues of being a piss poor sport.

You're so right about this, I am now rooting for you to win the $25,000 subscriber contest this week.

 

[geoff8695]

The more I think about this, the more I think the OP probably benefited from this.

Sounds like the OP most definitely did not benefit from this...The more I think about this, the more I think fantasy football isn't for those of you who get pissed off when you fail to obtain a cheap playoff victory just because your opponent takes the inactive players out of his lineup in exchange for ones who are actually playing.If you can't win your playoff game unless your opponent starts an inactive Adrian Peterson on game day, because he's busy doing something productive like say working, then you really shouldn't be whining about it and embarassing yourself.As an alternative to crying like a little girl, I'ld recommend drafting a better team and outscoring your opponent next time chief. And for the rest of you getting all hot and bothered over this scenario, remember this is not a matter of national security. It's a freakin' hobby/game, a source of enjoyment and excitement to enhance your enjoyment of the NFL. Those of you who treat it like it's a theater of war with life and death at stake here, really need to take a deep breath and reassess whether fantasy football is something you should be engaging in. Especially if it causes you to bash someone for exhibiting good sportsmanship, and extoll the virtues of being a piss poor sport.

You're so right about this, I am now rooting for you to win the $25,000 subscriber contest this week.

One down, 249 to go!

 

[mozzy84]

The more I think about this, the more I think the OP probably benefited from this.

Sounds like the OP most definitely did not benefit from this...The more I think about this, the more I think fantasy football isn't for those of you who get pissed off when you fail to obtain a cheap playoff victory just because your opponent takes the inactive players out of his lineup in exchange for ones who are actually playing.

If you can't win your playoff game unless your opponent starts an inactive Adrian Peterson on game day, because he's busy doing something productive like say working, then you really shouldn't be whining about it and embarassing yourself.

As an alternative to crying like a little girl, I'ld recommend drafting a better team and outscoring your opponent next time chief.

And for the rest of you getting all hot and bothered over this scenario, remember this is not a matter of national security. It's a freakin' hobby/game, a source of enjoyment and excitement to enhance your enjoyment of the NFL. Those of you who treat it like it's a theater of war with life and death at stake here, really need to take a deep breath and reassess whether fantasy football is something you should be engaging in. Especially if it causes you to bash someone for exhibiting good sportsmanship, and extoll the virtues of being a piss poor sport instead.

and if you can't win a playoff game without the commish calling you to set your lineup straight maybe you don't deserve to win? If anyone got a cheap win its the guy who got probably his first phone call ever from the commish telling him to change his lineup.

 

[SWC]

The more I think about this, the more I think the OP probably benefited from this.

Sounds like the OP most definitely did not benefit from this...The more I think about this, the more I think fantasy football isn't for those of you who get pissed off when you fail to obtain a cheap playoff victory just because your opponent takes the inactive players out of his lineup in exchange for ones who are actually playing.

If you can't win your playoff game unless your opponent starts an inactive Adrian Peterson on game day, because he's busy doing something productive like say working, then you really shouldn't be whining about it and embarassing yourself.

As an alternative to crying like a little girl, I'ld recommend drafting a better team and outscoring your opponent next time chief.

And for the rest of you getting all hot and bothered over this scenario, remember this is not a matter of national security. It's a freakin' hobby/game, a source of enjoyment and excitement to enhance your enjoyment of the NFL. Those of you who treat it like it's a theater of war with life and death at stake here, really need to take a deep breath and reassess whether fantasy football is something you should be engaging in. Especially if it causes you to bash someone for exhibiting good sportsmanship, and extoll the virtues of being a piss poor sport instead.

and if you can't win a playoff game without the commish calling you to set your lineup straight maybe you don't deserve to win? If anyone got a cheap win its the guy who got probably his first phone call ever from the commish telling him to change his lineup.

it seems like you are having a rough time. could we do something to make you feel better because brother if you are down in the dumps we could band together and help you out and make you like the holidays again so let us know all right?

 

[footballnerd]

The more I think about this, the more I think the OP probably benefited from this.

Sounds like the OP most definitely did not benefit from this...

Actually, the only reason I noticed it is because I was in the playoffs and their matchup was next to mine. I didn't even lpay much attention to their lineups until the end of the day on Sunday and saw what they both needed. I don't follow every single one, especially during the year.

No actually it does, he goes out of the way to get the guys information from other people to call and tell the guy to set his lineup when he sees a potential outcome to the matchup. Sounds like he had an opponent preference.like i said if you dont see nothing wrong with it, give the opponent a courtesy call and its all good.

 

[mozzy84]

The more I think about this, the more I think the OP probably benefited from this.

Sounds like the OP most definitely did not benefit from this...The more I think about this, the more I think fantasy football isn't for those of you who get pissed off when you fail to obtain a cheap playoff victory just because your opponent takes the inactive players out of his lineup in exchange for ones who are actually playing.

If you can't win your playoff game unless your opponent starts an inactive Adrian Peterson on game day, because he's busy doing something productive like say working, then you really shouldn't be whining about it and embarassing yourself.

As an alternative to crying like a little girl, I'ld recommend drafting a better team and outscoring your opponent next time chief.

And for the rest of you getting all hot and bothered over this scenario, remember this is not a matter of national security. It's a freakin' hobby/game, a source of enjoyment and excitement to enhance your enjoyment of the NFL. Those of you who treat it like it's a theater of war with life and death at stake here, really need to take a deep breath and reassess whether fantasy football is something you should be engaging in. Especially if it causes you to bash someone for exhibiting good sportsmanship, and extoll the virtues of being a piss poor sport instead.

and if you can't win a playoff game without the commish calling you to set your lineup straight maybe you don't deserve to win? If anyone got a cheap win its the guy who got probably his first phone call ever from the commish telling him to change his lineup.

it seems like you are having a rough time. could we do something to make you feel better because brother if you are down in the dumps we could band together and help you out and make you like the holidays again so let us know all right?

how so? because I disagree with you?

 

[gianmarco]

You have to be trustworthy, bipartisan, and legit otherwise your integrity along with the league's, goes right out the window.

This is exactly why I DID tell him. I wasn't colluding against a specific owner. If the teams were reversed, I would have done the same thing. I wasn't treating one owner differently than I would have treated any other which is why I ultimately decided to do what I did. If I wasn't the commish and there was someone I didn't like in the league, you better believe I wouldn't make the call. And similarly, if I wasn't the commish and my buddy in the league had AP in his lineup and didn't realize it/wasn't able to check in, you better believe I'd let him know. I wouldn't even dream of not doing that.But, as commish, if I would have done it for one team, I felt I had to apply the same to any owner. It had nothing to do with liking one more than the other or benefiting my team (which it actually hurt as a result). Now, YOU may believe that a commish should never interfere and YOU may believe that another owner should never help another owner and that is fine. I find no fault with that line of thinking. But to question my integrity because of this decision is 100% incorrect. The reason I did it and the reason I came here to begin with was to do the right thing. While some of you obviously feel quite strongly that I didn't, I'm 100% comfortable with what I did and the "ethics" behind it. And as I stated, while making some type of weird announcement that I tried to contact the owner to inform him of an inactive player is not something I'll do (simply bc I don't think it's at all necessary), I am making no attempt whatsoever to keep it a secret.

 

[N Zone]

horrible

The whole point of this game is to compete against another owner and if said owner doesn't know this situation and make the correction without other league members help than they deserve to lose.

If this kind of help is going to occur you might as well be competing against a computer programmed fantasy football league rather than real people.

 

[gianmarco]

The more I think about this, the more I think the OP probably benefited from this.

Sounds like the OP most definitely did not benefit from this...

Actually, the only reason I noticed it is because I was in the playoffs and their matchup was next to mine. I didn't even lpay much attention to their lineups until the end of the day on Sunday and saw what they both needed. I don't follow every single one, especially during the year.

No actually it does, he goes out of the way to get the guys information from other people to call and tell the guy to set his lineup when he sees a potential outcome to the matchup. Sounds like he had an opponent preference.like i said if you dont see nothing wrong with it, give the opponent a courtesy call and its all good.

Out of my way? Seriously? I don't have the guy's number. I called one of the owners and said "Hey, not sure if X is around, but he's got AP in his lineup and he's been declared inactive". The response: "Yeah, I already tried calling him about it. I'll see if I can get a hold of him". That was the entire conversation. I didn't ask for his number and didn't have any intention of calling him. If his buddy could get a hold of him and let him know, then great. I wasn't going to go out of my way but I also wasn't going to just ignore it and pretend like I had no idea. And, like I said, I would have made the call whether I was in the playoffs or not. Who I faced had 0% impact on my decision. Looking at the lineups as a result of this thread, I'd MUCH rather face the other guy. It's not even close.

 

[footballnerd]

no commish agrees that they should give the opponent a courtesy call before notifying an owner about a line up change? this is shocking......

 

[duaneok66]

You have to be trustworthy, bipartisan, and legit otherwise your integrity along with the league's, goes right out the window.

This is exactly why I DID tell him. I wasn't colluding against a specific owner. If the teams were reversed, I would have done the same thing. I wasn't treating one owner differently than I would have treated any other which is why I ultimately decided to do what I did. If I wasn't the commish and there was someone I didn't like in the league, you better believe I wouldn't make the call. And similarly, if I wasn't the commish and my buddy in the league had AP in his lineup and didn't realize it/wasn't able to check in, you better believe I'd let him know. I wouldn't even dream of not doing that.But, as commish, if I would have done it for one team, I felt I had to apply the same to any owner. It had nothing to do with liking one more than the other or benefiting my team (which it actually hurt as a result). Now, YOU may believe that a commish should never interfere and YOU may believe that another owner should never help another owner and that is fine. I find no fault with that line of thinking. But to question my integrity because of this decision is 100% incorrect. The reason I did it and the reason I came here to begin with was to do the right thing. While some of you obviously feel quite strongly that I didn't, I'm 100% comfortable with what I did and the "ethics" behind it. And as I stated, while making some type of weird announcement that I tried to contact the owner to inform him of an inactive player is not something I'll do (simply bc I don't think it's at all necessary), I am making no attempt whatsoever to keep it a secret.

I dont question your integrity - I know you werent trying to give one player an edge because you were somehow biased . . . My point is that you went out of your way to inform one owner of a late change - so even though you weren't really biased and you would do the same thing no matter who the guy was, you still made a point to do so - so why not help every team anytime there is a late change - why not scan all the rosters an hour before games on Sunday and monday afternoon - that is what all of are saying I think . . . what some are missing is that he made a calculated gamble to keep ADP in even though he was questionable ALL WEEK LONG - he could have played it safe and gone with a healthy player with a lower ceiling, knowing he would be at work and may not get to make a late change . . .

 

[SWC]

i think a lot of the people mad about this are actualy just dudes who live on doritos in thier parents basement and are mostly mad that the guy the commish helped has a job and life.

 

[Futz]

You have to be trustworthy, bipartisan, and legit otherwise your integrity along with the league's, goes right out the window.

This is exactly why I DID tell him. I wasn't colluding against a specific owner. If the teams were reversed, I would have done the same thing. I wasn't treating one owner differently than I would have treated any other which is why I ultimately decided to do what I did. If I wasn't the commish and there was someone I didn't like in the league, you better believe I wouldn't make the call. And similarly, if I wasn't the commish and my buddy in the league had AP in his lineup and didn't realize it/wasn't able to check in, you better believe I'd let him know. I wouldn't even dream of not doing that.But, as commish, if I would have done it for one team, I felt I had to apply the same to any owner. It had nothing to do with liking one more than the other or benefiting my team (which it actually hurt as a result). Now, YOU may believe that a commish should never interfere and YOU may believe that another owner should never help another owner and that is fine. I find no fault with that line of thinking. But to question my integrity because of this decision is 100% incorrect. The reason I did it and the reason I came here to begin with was to do the right thing. While some of you obviously feel quite strongly that I didn't, I'm 100% comfortable with what I did and the "ethics" behind it. And as I stated, while making some type of weird announcement that I tried to contact the owner to inform him of an inactive player is not something I'll do (simply bc I don't think it's at all necessary), I am making no attempt whatsoever to keep it a secret.

Listen, I get it ok. You were trying to do what you perceived to be the "right thing to do". Maybe you are a super nice guy and no one in the world would ever think you had an alternative motive. The problem is that you are opening pandora's box. You are possibly giving off the impression (whether you had intent or not) of impropriety. As the commissioner, that's the biggest cardinal sin IMO. If you can't trust the guy running the show, the show does not go on. That's the reason you as the commissioner have to leave these situations alone.

 

[footballnerd]

i think a lot of the people mad about this are actualy just dudes who live on doritos in thier parents basement and are mostly mad that the guy the commish helped has a job and life.

so you dont have a problem giving the opponent of the guy you notified a courtesy call prior, just to get his okay, right?

 

[Futz]

i think a lot of the people mad about this are actualy just dudes who live on doritos in thier parents basement and are mostly mad that the guy the commish helped has a job and life.

You continue to add a ton to this conversation, thanks.

 

[SWC]

i think a lot of the people mad about this are actualy just dudes who live on doritos in thier parents basement and are mostly mad that the guy the commish helped has a job and life.

so you dont have a problem giving the opponent of the guy you notified a courtesy call prior, just to get his okay, right?

i wouldn't care if he called up everyone in the league and then the korean restaurant down the street followed by seven aborignies on a walkabout assuming they could get cell service and had phones and then Wilford Brimly to talk about he move and then quaker oats (which are not that good unless you add a ton of syrup andthen what's what t he point just drink the syrup) before he called the gy with the job.. /. that doesn't change the fact thatthe people getting mad want to not let he commissioner have a friend or want to help that brother out and hey he is allowed to do that there is no law that says we are guaranteed life liberty the pursuit of happiness and never having our commissioner talk to a friend of his so let's get real and this is a no spin zone

 

[footballnerd]

i think a lot of the people mad about this are actualy just dudes who live on doritos in thier parents basement and are mostly mad that the guy the commish helped has a job and life.

so you dont have a problem giving the opponent of the guy you notified a courtesy call prior, just to get his okay, right?

i wouldn't care if he called up everyone in the league and then the korean restaurant down the street followed by seven aborignies on a walkabout assuming they could get cell service and had phones and then Wilford Brimly to talk about he move and then quaker oats (which are not that good unless you add a ton of syrup andthen what's what t he point just drink the syrup) before he called the gy with the job.. /. that doesn't change the fact thatthe people getting mad want to not let he commissioner have a friend or want to help that brother out and hey he is allowed to do that there is no law that says we are guaranteed life liberty the pursuit of happiness and never having our commissioner talk to a friend of his so let's get real and this is a no spin zone

everyone is saying there is nothing wrong with it, so all those people including yourself should call the opponent and let them know what your doing prior to telling the owner to change his line up. its easy as pie, if there is nothing wrong or biased about it, you would have no problem making that courtesy call and face the music. who knows, the guy might be just like yall and say thats fine, right?

 

[SWC]

i think a lot of the people mad about this are actualy just dudes who live on doritos in thier parents basement and are mostly mad that the guy the commish helped has a job and life.

You continue to add a ton to this conversation, thanks.

that was just supposed to be a joke but sorry if it came of bad i mean that. i need to go anyhow but i just dont see how a guy helping his friend out is wrong and even if he was being more strategic and makeing the call to get a better team the next week i dont even think thats wrong because just because you are a comissioner doesnt mean you cant also compete and do your best to make sure you have the best chance of winning being a comissioner should not be a hinerance to the comissioner who is also an owner if you want that then pay someone to not have a team and be commish.

 

[SWC]

i think a lot of the people mad about this are actualy just dudes who live on doritos in thier parents basement and are mostly mad that the guy the commish helped has a job and life.

so you dont have a problem giving the opponent of the guy you notified a courtesy call prior, just to get his okay, right?

i wouldn't care if he called up everyone in the league and then the korean restaurant down the street followed by seven aborignies on a walkabout assuming they could get cell service and had phones and then Wilford Brimly to talk about he move and then quaker oats (which are not that good unless you add a ton of syrup andthen what's what t he point just drink the syrup) before he called the gy with the job.. /. that doesn't change the fact thatthe people getting mad want to not let he commissioner have a friend or want to help that brother out and hey he is allowed to do that there is no law that says we are guaranteed life liberty the pursuit of happiness and never having our commissioner talk to a friend of his so let's get real and this is a no spin zone

everyone is saying there is nothing wrong with it, so all those people including yourself should call the opponent and let them know what your doing prior to telling the owner to change his line up. its easy as pie, if there is nothing wrong or biased about it, you would have no problem making that courtesy call and face the music. who knows, the guy might be just like yall and say thats fine, right?

i think that guy would get pretty annoyed if everyone from this board called him and told him about something that already happend and anyhow we dont have his number.p.s.that was a joke and as i said i think the commish can do/call whoever he wants and as long as he doesnt make illegal subs or take people's money and not pay out to winners he is doing his job.

 

[Summer Wheat]

In the two leagues I commish I let people sink or swim on their own. I have never got involved in a issue like this and never will. How people run their teams is up to them.

 

[footballnerd]

i think that guy would get pretty annoyed if everyone from this board called him and told him about something that already happend and anyhow we dont have his number.

 

[Flash]

The more I think about this, the more I think the OP probably benefited from this.

Sounds like the OP most definitely did not benefit from this...The more I think about this, the more I think fantasy football isn't for those of you who get pissed off when you fail to obtain a cheap playoff victory just because your opponent takes the inactive players out of his lineup in exchange for ones who are actually playing.If you can't win your playoff game unless your opponent starts an inactive Adrian Peterson on game day, because he's busy doing something productive like say working, then you really shouldn't be whining about it and embarassing yourself.As an alternative to crying like a little girl, I'ld recommend drafting a better team and outscoring your opponent next time chief. And for the rest of you getting all hot and bothered over this scenario, remember this is not a matter of national security. It's a freakin' hobby/game, a source of enjoyment and excitement to enhance your enjoyment of the NFL. Those of you who treat it like it's a theater of war with life and death at stake here, really need to take a deep breath and reassess whether fantasy football is something you should be engaging in. Especially if it causes you to bash someone for exhibiting good sportsmanship, and extoll the virtues of being a piss poor sport instead.

Democrats.

 

[Flash]

In the two leagues I commish I let people sink or swim on their own. I have never got involved in a issue like this and never will. How people run their teams is up to them.

Exactly.Commissioners are not babysitters.The people that are in here praising this move, do you need help walking across the street too?

 

[RJS113]

I can't believe this thread is already on 3 pages.

Warning the other owner wasn't necessary, but there certainly wasn't anything wrong with it. I don't get why people think this is a big deal.

 

[Pura Vida]

In the two leagues I commish I let people sink or swim on their own. I have never got involved in a issue like this and never will. How people run their teams is up to them.

I also commish two fairly high dollar leagues. I do not tell even my friends when they have made mistakes because I dont want to treat anyone unfairly. If I tell one person they have a lineup mistake, I must tell everyone that has a line up mistake or I am treating them differently.I dont know how old the OP is...but if you are in a league with men, men should be responsible for their own team. Maybe you could have called the opponent and given him the chance to let the AP owner know.

 

[Pura Vida]

Whole lot of ridiculous people on here who take this game waaay too seriously.

A lot of people invest hundreds to thousands of dollars on this game. If it wasnt a money league, I have no problem with the move.

 

[Chaka]

...they'd know that there's no honor in winning a fantasy game because your opponent inadvertently started an inactive player anyway.

The OP chose his favorite and acted accordingly. He acted in a way that will influence future games. Games that involve him no less. But was informing him truly honorable or was it self serving (if only on a subconscious level)?You're probably right that there was nothing wrong with informing the owner about his error (I would say that you were absolutely right if there was not the potential for being self serving), there also would have been nothing wrong with not informing him.Honor

 

[bostonfred]

Imagine if someone had replaced Joe Webb for you because Favre was starting, and the points Webb scored would have won you the game? That would be a fun Tuesday morning.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

In the two leagues I commish I let people sink or swim on their own. I have never got involved in a issue like this and never will. How people run their teams is up to them.

Exactly.Commissioners are not babysitters.The people that are in here praising this move, do you need help walking across the street too?

Nope. But if I want to help out another owner by telling them public information, and it bothers their opponent because they were hoping nobody says anything...too bad. The opponent doesn't get to tell me what I can say to whom. If I choose to say something, I will. Start better players if you think that hurts your chance to win.I'm under no obligation to say anything, and I'm under no obligation to keep it secret. Doesn't matter if I'm the commissioner or just a fellow owner. It's public information and common knowledge. I'm not using any special consideration given as a commissioner, and I'm not giving special information given to me as a really cool football fan. It's information everyone has access to obtain. No secret info. Everyone saw the lineups and everyone knew Peterson was out.So if the owner himself didn't obtain it, I don't have to tell them. But if I want to tell them, I can. If you think there's a trust or credibility issue associated with giving out information everyone already knows...I wonder if there's a "wall of silence" in your rulebook. If their opponent can't find it, they should stop crying and face players who are actually starting.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

In the two leagues I commish I let people sink or swim on their own. I have never got involved in a issue like this and never will. How people run their teams is up to them.

I also commish two fairly high dollar leagues. I do not tell even my friends when they have made mistakes because I dont want to treat anyone unfairly. If I tell one person they have a lineup mistake, I must tell everyone that has a line up mistake or I am treating them differently.I dont know how old the OP is...but if you are in a league with men, men should be responsible for their own team.

Maybe you could have called the opponent and given him the chance to let the AP owner know.

Real men run their own imaginary football teams in their make-believe playoffs. What kind of pansy allows common knowledge to be given out during a pretend playoff game? man up already!

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

...they'd know that there's no honor in winning a fantasy game because your opponent inadvertently started an inactive player anyway.

The OP chose his favorite and acted accordingly. He acted in a way that will influence future games. Games that involve him no less. But was informing him truly honorable or was it self serving (if only on a subconscious level)?You're probably right that there was nothing wrong with informing the owner about his error (I would say that you were absolutely right if there was not the potential for being self serving), there also would have been nothing wrong with not informing him.

Honor

 

[footballnerd]

In the two leagues I commish I let people sink or swim on their own. I have never got involved in a issue like this and never will. How people run their teams is up to them.

Exactly.Commissioners are not babysitters.The people that are in here praising this move, do you need help walking across the street too?

Nope. But if I want to help out another owner by telling them public information, and it bothers their opponent because they were hoping nobody says anything...too bad. The opponent doesn't get to tell me what I can say to whom. If I choose to say something, I will. Start better players if you think that hurts your chance to win.I'm under no obligation to say anything, and I'm under no obligation to keep it secret. Doesn't matter if I'm the commissioner or just a fellow owner. It's public information and common knowledge. I'm not using any special consideration given as a commissioner, and I'm not giving special information given to me as a really cool football fan. It's information everyone has access to obtain. No secret info. Everyone saw the lineups and everyone knew Peterson was out.So if the owner himself didn't obtain it, I don't have to tell them. But if I want to tell them, I can. If you think there's a trust or credibility issue associated with giving out information everyone already knows...I wonder if there's a "wall of silence" in your rulebook. If their opponent can't find it, they should stop crying and face players who are actually starting.

thats all fine and dandy, just make sure you man up and tell the opponent what your doing. as a commish it is your obligation to keep the playing field even, and if your helping people manage their teams then you either need to let the opponent know or help everyone in the league. no favoritism or biases from the commish. the best route, is not get involved in anyones team, trust me its easiest.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

I can't believe I lost my magic football championship because my opponent didn't take a guaranteed zero at RB!!! I GOT ROBBED!!!!!

 

[lod01]

So how much $ is on the line in this league?

 

[ChromeWeasel]

In the two leagues I commish I let people sink or swim on their own. I have never got involved in a issue like this and never will. How people run their teams is up to them.

Exactly.Commissioners are not babysitters.

The people that are in here praising this move, do you need help walking across the street too?

Nope. But if I want to help out another owner by telling them public information, and it bothers their opponent because they were hoping nobody says anything...too bad. The opponent doesn't get to tell me what I can say to whom. If I choose to say something, I will. Start better players if you think that hurts your chance to win.I'm under no obligation to say anything, and I'm under no obligation to keep it secret. Doesn't matter if I'm the commissioner or just a fellow owner. It's public information and common knowledge. I'm not using any special consideration given as a commissioner, and I'm not giving special information given to me as a really cool football fan. It's information everyone has access to obtain. No secret info. Everyone saw the lineups and everyone knew Peterson was out.

So if the owner himself didn't obtain it, I don't have to tell them. But if I want to tell them, I can. If you think there's a trust or credibility issue associated with giving out information everyone already knows...I wonder if there's a "wall of silence" in your rulebook. If their opponent can't find it, they should stop crying and face players who are actually starting.

thats all fine and dandy, just make sure you man up and tell the opponent what your doing. as a commish it is your obligation to keep the playing field even, and if your helping people manage their teams then you either need to let the opponent know or help everyone in the league. no favoritism or biases from the commish. the best route, is not get involved in anyones team, trust me its easiest.

Keeping the playing field even is not your job as commish. Your job is simply to set up the league and arbiter the rules fairly.Advising an owner that he's got an injured player is not worth bringing up to the opponent. You're not doing anything that any other owner can't also do. I fully expect that other owners may tell my opponent that he's got a hole in his roster, if it helps other owners against me over the season. There's nothing wrong with that.

The only reason to inform people of anything is when you're using commissioner authority to make a change that an owner normally can't make on his own. If you change an owners roster for him, or allow a late trade, or anything else that you have to use your admin rights as the commissioner to authorize. Anything below that is just owners being owners, and there's no need to scrutinize every single thing that everyone does.

 

[comfortably numb]

Meh...

I can see the point that a commish meddles and people can view the intentions as inappropriate.

This year in 1 league, Staffer Will Grant, I noticed was on the site at 12:45, then left, and he has a lineup that was riddled with BYE week players against me.

I IMed the commish asking him to try to reach him.

No luck.

I figured must have been an error.

When speaking to Will he said he submitted a lineup.

I told the commish that I would allow him to submit whatever lineup he was going to go with initially.

This was on Monday morning.

He did so.



For some people, the fun is winning $, my priority is to have fun while trying to win money.

 

[Flash]

In the two leagues I commish I let people sink or swim on their own. I have never got involved in a issue like this and never will. How people run their teams is up to them.

I also commish two fairly high dollar leagues. I do not tell even my friends when they have made mistakes because I dont want to treat anyone unfairly. If I tell one person they have a lineup mistake, I must tell everyone that has a line up mistake or I am treating them differently.I dont know how old the OP is...but if you are in a league with men, men should be responsible for their own team.

Maybe you could have called the opponent and given him the chance to let the AP owner know.

Real men run their own imaginary football teams in their make-believe playoffs. What kind of pansy allows common knowledge to be given out during a pretend playoff game? man up already!

You are contradicting yourself in every other post you make.

 

[yellowdog]

As a commish, I will encourage teams during the regular season to field a competent lineup, because regular season games effect everybody. Once teams make the playoffs, they are on their own. If I were the other owner, I'd be a little perturbed at the assist.

 

[comfortably numb]

Just curious, how would you handle if you knew said owner was say in hospital or at workplace where they have no internet connection, or just that it is known that said owner is nowhere near a PC on monday nights.

SOL?

 

[yellowdog]

Just curious, how would you handle if you knew said owner was say in hospital or at workplace where they have no internet connection, or just that it is known that said owner is nowhere near a PC on monday nights.SOL?

Hospital for sudden emergency? Not much you can do. I'm not making the change for him.Hospital for scheduled procedure? SOLWorkplace? SOLPeterson was listed as questionable all week. It's up to the owner to make sure he is gonna play. If he calls me for an update, I'll obviously give him the information, and even make the change if requested. Otherwise, it's hands off.

 

[pantagrapher]

As a commish, I will encourage teams during the regular season to field a competent lineup, because regular season games effect everybody. Once teams make the playoffs, they are on their own. If I were the other owner, I'd be a little perturbed at the assist.

You'd want to win on some BS like a guy accidentally starting an inactive player?

 

[yellowdog]

As a commish, I will encourage teams during the regular season to field a competent lineup, because regular season games effect everybody. Once teams make the playoffs, they are on their own. If I were the other owner, I'd be a little perturbed at the assist.

You'd want to win on some BS like a guy accidentally starting an inactive player?

YES!!!!

 

[footballnerd]

Keeping the playing field even is not your job as commish. Your job is simply to set up the league and arbiter the rules fairly.Advising an owner that he's got an injured player is not worth bringing up to the opponent. You're not doing anything that any other owner can't also do. I fully expect that other owners may tell my opponent that he's got a hole in his roster, if it helps other owners against me over the season. There's nothing wrong with that.The only reason to inform people of anything is when you're using commissioner authority to make a change that an owner normally can't make on his own. If you change an owners roster for him, or allow a late trade, or anything else that you have to use your admin rights as the commissioner to authorize. Anything below that is just owners being owners, and there's no need to scrutinize every single thing that everyone does.

Don't tell me, tell your league, obviously theres people that don't share the same viewpoint as you. Let them know before you exercise this action, this way they know what type of commish they're dealing with and can choose to stay or leave. Put it all up front and its all good.

 

[footballnerd]

Just curious, how would you handle if you knew said owner was say in hospital or at workplace where they have no internet connection, or just that it is known that said owner is nowhere near a PC on monday nights.SOL?

I'd call the opponent and say "so and so is in the hospital, i'm gonna help him change his line up"..........."so and so is stuck at work, I'm gonna change his line up"I'm just curious if you're gonna argue the emergency stuck at work thing, if all the OP did was notify the owner, how did the guy change his line up? the guy had access to the internet.

 

[matuski]

I dont know how old the OP is...but if you are in a league with men, men should be responsible for their own team.

The day I even attempt to associate fantasy football with my manhood or anyone else's, please shoot me.Seriously.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

In the two leagues I commish I let people sink or swim on their own. I have never got involved in a issue like this and never will. How people run their teams is up to them.

Exactly.Commissioners are not babysitters.The people that are in here praising this move, do you need help walking across the street too?

Nope. But if I want to help out another owner by telling them public information, and it bothers their opponent because they were hoping nobody says anything...too bad. The opponent doesn't get to tell me what I can say to whom. If I choose to say something, I will. Start better players if you think that hurts your chance to win.I'm under no obligation to say anything, and I'm under no obligation to keep it secret. Doesn't matter if I'm the commissioner or just a fellow owner. It's public information and common knowledge. I'm not using any special consideration given as a commissioner, and I'm not giving special information given to me as a really cool football fan. It's information everyone has access to obtain. No secret info. Everyone saw the lineups and everyone knew Peterson was out.So if the owner himself didn't obtain it, I don't have to tell them. But if I want to tell them, I can. If you think there's a trust or credibility issue associated with giving out information everyone already knows...I wonder if there's a "wall of silence" in your rulebook. If their opponent can't find it, they should stop crying and face players who are actually starting.

thats all fine and dandy, just make sure you man up and tell the opponent what your doing. as a commish it is your obligation to keep the playing field even, and if your helping people manage their teams then you either need to let the opponent know or help everyone in the league. no favoritism or biases from the commish. the best route, is not get involved in anyones team, trust me its easiest.

I'm afraid you're mistaken. The commish is an owner, and it is NOT the commish's job to maintain a wall of silence regarding public knowledge. He can dispense or not dispense that information at will, just like any owner. That is a level playing field. The commish cannot use his power to provide an unfair advantage to one team or another. But ESPN is not a commish power. I would LOVE to hear a owner cry that he left a league because "he was gonna win a game because his opponent had a player who was inactive but somebody told him." The whole world knew the guy was inactive. If you don't like that the world didn't maintain silence so you could win your game...you're in the wrong game. Either pay for an outside commish that isn't an owner of a team, or allow a commish to be an owner and act like one. If it's public info that everyone already knows, any owner can tell them a player is inactive-- even the commish. If you want a wall of silence, put your opponent in a plastic bubble. But don't complain that the commish gave out info that was everywhere. He's an owner, too.Is your problem that it was the commish, or that anyone did it? I'd tell someone even if I wasn't a commish, and if I didn't want to I'd refrain. I'd love to have someone whine to me that I should have stayed out of it, like they dictate what I say.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Keeping the playing field even is not your job as commish. Your job is simply to set up the league and arbiter the rules fairly.Advising an owner that he's got an injured player is not worth bringing up to the opponent. You're not doing anything that any other owner can't also do. I fully expect that other owners may tell my opponent that he's got a hole in his roster, if it helps other owners against me over the season. There's nothing wrong with that.The only reason to inform people of anything is when you're using commissioner authority to make a change that an owner normally can't make on his own. If you change an owners roster for him, or allow a late trade, or anything else that you have to use your admin rights as the commissioner to authorize. Anything below that is just owners being owners, and there's no need to scrutinize every single thing that everyone does.

Don't tell me, tell your league, obviously theres people that don't share the same viewpoint as you. Let them know before you exercise this action, this way they know what type of commish they're dealing with and can choose to stay or leave. Put it all up front and its all good.

So the commish has to put his communications up to league scrutiny? Does he have to let the league know when he's going to offer a trade, or call his buddy to talk about the upcoming draft? The "action" he's "exercising" is talking to someone about public knowledge that everyone knows. "Hey guys, I'd like your permission to tell owner A what I saw on ESPN."Again, this has NOTHING to do with commish powers, or information he has as commish that nobody else has. He has a television and he watches ESPN. You're saying the commish has to be held to a different standard than a regular owner. While I appreciate that some commissioners like to be packmules and robots and purposely hurt their own team so they can prove how "fair" they are, it's silly to expect everyone to be so eager to give themselves an unfair disadvantage. If a commissioner is supposed to be fair to everyone, does that not include himself?If I thought for a moment that some owners thought a commish wasn't allowed to talk about public info with fellow owners, and was forced to maintain radio silence in an effort to appear "fair," I'd show them the door before they could shed their first tear. Some owners are spoiled. They think a 12-team league includes 11 regular owners and one with a hand tied behind their back and a label of guilty until proven innocent. Everyone else can share what they saw on TV...but not this one owner. He better stay quiet. If he mentions what he saw on ESPN he's not being "fair."

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

In the two leagues I commish I let people sink or swim on their own. I have never got involved in a issue like this and never will. How people run their teams is up to them.

I also commish two fairly high dollar leagues. I do not tell even my friends when they have made mistakes because I dont want to treat anyone unfairly. If I tell one person they have a lineup mistake, I must tell everyone that has a line up mistake or I am treating them differently.I dont know how old the OP is...but if you are in a league with men, men should be responsible for their own team.

Maybe you could have called the opponent and given him the chance to let the AP owner know.

Real men run their own imaginary football teams in their make-believe playoffs. What kind of pansy allows common knowledge to be given out during a pretend playoff game? man up already!

:( You are contradicting yourself in every other post you make.

 

[footballnerd]

Keeping the playing field even is not your job as commish. Your job is simply to set up the league and arbiter the rules fairly.Advising an owner that he's got an injured player is not worth bringing up to the opponent. You're not doing anything that any other owner can't also do. I fully expect that other owners may tell my opponent that he's got a hole in his roster, if it helps other owners against me over the season. There's nothing wrong with that.The only reason to inform people of anything is when you're using commissioner authority to make a change that an owner normally can't make on his own. If you change an owners roster for him, or allow a late trade, or anything else that you have to use your admin rights as the commissioner to authorize. Anything below that is just owners being owners, and there's no need to scrutinize every single thing that everyone does.

Don't tell me, tell your league, obviously theres people that don't share the same viewpoint as you. Let them know before you exercise this action, this way they know what type of commish they're dealing with and can choose to stay or leave. Put it all up front and its all good.

So the commish has to put his communications up to league scrutiny? Does he have to let the league know when he's going to offer a trade, or call his buddy to talk about the upcoming draft? The "action" he's "exercising" is talking to someone about public knowledge that everyone knows. "Hey guys, I'd like your permission to tell owner A what I saw on ESPN."Again, this has NOTHING to do with commish powers, or information he has as commish that nobody else has. He has a television and he watches ESPN. You're saying the commish has to be held to a different standard than a regular owner. While I appreciate that some commissioners like to be packmules and robots and purposely hurt their own team so they can prove how "fair" they are, it's silly to expect everyone to be so eager to give themselves an unfair disadvantage. If a commissioner is supposed to be fair to everyone, does that not include himself?If I thought for a moment that some owners thought a commish wasn't allowed to talk about public info with fellow owners, and was forced to maintain radio silence in an effort to appear "fair," I'd show them the door before they could shed their first tear. Some owners are spoiled. They think a 12-team league includes 11 regular owners and one with a hand tied behind their back and a label of guilty until proven innocent. Everyone else can share what they saw on TV...but not this one owner. He better stay quiet. If he mentions what he saw on ESPN he's not being "fair."

So as commish you're prob the most active person on the site, you are helping two teams manage their teams through out the season and giving no help to anyone else. You're holding everyone's money, ya I would see problem with that. And when sheit hits the fan with some kind of league error, don't think the league will feel a bias is in play with the decision. Talk about the NFL all you want, but you shouldn't be helping people manage their teams.I talk a gang load of NFL with my leaguemates such as why does randy moss suck so bad, but I don't help them with their line up decisions, thats up to them on their own.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Keeping the playing field even is not your job as commish. Your job is simply to set up the league and arbiter the rules fairly.Advising an owner that he's got an injured player is not worth bringing up to the opponent. You're not doing anything that any other owner can't also do. I fully expect that other owners may tell my opponent that he's got a hole in his roster, if it helps other owners against me over the season. There's nothing wrong with that.The only reason to inform people of anything is when you're using commissioner authority to make a change that an owner normally can't make on his own. If you change an owners roster for him, or allow a late trade, or anything else that you have to use your admin rights as the commissioner to authorize. Anything below that is just owners being owners, and there's no need to scrutinize every single thing that everyone does.

Don't tell me, tell your league, obviously theres people that don't share the same viewpoint as you. Let them know before you exercise this action, this way they know what type of commish they're dealing with and can choose to stay or leave. Put it all up front and its all good.

So the commish has to put his communications up to league scrutiny? Does he have to let the league know when he's going to offer a trade, or call his buddy to talk about the upcoming draft? The "action" he's "exercising" is talking to someone about public knowledge that everyone knows. "Hey guys, I'd like your permission to tell owner A what I saw on ESPN."Again, this has NOTHING to do with commish powers, or information he has as commish that nobody else has. He has a television and he watches ESPN. You're saying the commish has to be held to a different standard than a regular owner. While I appreciate that some commissioners like to be packmules and robots and purposely hurt their own team so they can prove how "fair" they are, it's silly to expect everyone to be so eager to give themselves an unfair disadvantage. If a commissioner is supposed to be fair to everyone, does that not include himself?If I thought for a moment that some owners thought a commish wasn't allowed to talk about public info with fellow owners, and was forced to maintain radio silence in an effort to appear "fair," I'd show them the door before they could shed their first tear. Some owners are spoiled. They think a 12-team league includes 11 regular owners and one with a hand tied behind their back and a label of guilty until proven innocent. Everyone else can share what they saw on TV...but not this one owner. He better stay quiet. If he mentions what he saw on ESPN he's not being "fair."

So as commish you're prob the most active person on the site, you are helping two teams manage their teams through out the season and giving no help to anyone else. You're holding everyone's money, ya I would see problem with that. And when sheit hits the fan with some kind of league error, don't think the league will feel a bias is in play with the decision. Talk about the NFL all you want, but you shouldn't be helping people manage their teams.I talk a gang load of NFL with my leaguemates such as why does randy moss suck so bad, but I don't help them with their line up decisions, thats up to them on their own.

I wouldn't be giving any "help" that another owner couldn't give. If I can see blind bidding and revealed that information to someone (or used it to my advantage) you'd be 100 percent right. But this is information on ESPN. I could do it as an owner and could do it as commissioner.Are you saying another owner could do it but a commissioner couldn't?