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1. Panthers: Cam Newton, quarterback, Auburn.

Carolina's new coaching staff doesn't seem to believe in 2010 second-rounder Jimmy Clausen, and the front office is "not sold" that any of this year's defensive linemen are worthy of the No. 1 overall pick. Newton has difference-making talent and is capable of rejuvenating the NFL's worst team.

2. Broncos: Marcell Dareus, defensive tackle, Alabama.

Dareus has bypassed Nick Fairley on most teams' draft boards as this year's top defensive tackle, and a quick glance at Denver's depth chart reveals the worst interior line in football. At 319 pounds with incredible quickness and short-area explosion, Dareus is a no-brainer pick at No. 2.

3. Bills: Da'Quan Bowers, defensive end, Clemson.

The Bills would likely prefer Cam Newton, but they won't have a chance at him barring a trade up. While Blaine Gabbert should also be considered, the NCAA's sack and tackle-for-loss leader will be difficult to resist for a club that ranked 27th in the league in sacks last year. Ala Darnell Dockett in Arizona, Bowers would play end in the Bills' 3-4 defense and focus on rushing the passer.

4. Bengals: Blaine Gabbert, quarterback, Missouri.

Carson Palmer is serious about retirement, and brotherly backup Jordan wouldn't make most NFL rosters as a third-stringer. Without free agency on the horizon, there's no way the Bengals can afford to pass on an elite quarterback. Gabbert is this year's top-rated passer in the eyes of many.

5. Cardinals: Von Miller, linebacker, Texas A&M.

"Two words," uses NFL Network's Mike Mayock to describe Miller. "Defies. Gravity. Bends parallel to the ground. This guy comes off the edge and it's scary how quick he gets to the quarterback." The Cards could use some of that with Joey Porter and Clark Haggans both 34 years old.

6. Browns: A.J. Green, wide receiver, Georgia.

While he didn't generate quite the buzz fellow receiver Julio Jones did in Indianapolis, Green remains the clear-cut No. 1 wideout in this year's draft class. The Browns are committed to Colt McCoy, but have to know he'll never realize his potential without an improved supporting cast.

7. 49ers: Patrick Peterson, cornerback, LSU.

Peterson's talent probably deserves to go higher, but there hasn't been a corner drafted in the top five in eight years. The 2010 Thorpe Award winner as college football's top defensive back, Peterson's addition would allow the Niners to comfortably part with overpriced Nate Clements.

8. Titans: Nick Fairley, defensive tackle, Auburn

The Titans are targeting a quarterback, but Blaine Gabbert and Cam Newton shouldn't get out of the top four. Instead, they can end Fairley's mini-freefall by reuniting him with college position coach Tracy Rocker. Fairley didn't have a good Combine, and his measurables (e.g. size, 10-yard split) aren't top-five caliber.

9. Cowboys: Prince Amukamara, cornerback, Nebraska.

Terence Newman is going on 33 and was abused in coverage last season, so it's hard to imagine the Cowboys paying his $8 million non-guaranteed salary for 2011. The secondary is Dallas' greatest weakness by a good margin, and Amukamara is by far the best defensive back available.

10. Redskins: Julio Jones, wide receiver, Alabama.

Owning no third- or fourth-round pick, the Redskins are prime candidates to trade out of the tenth spot with a team hungry for pass rushers. If coach Mike Shanahan is forced to stand pat, he must select an immediate starter at either quarterback, wide receiver, or in the defensive front seven.

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Rest of his mock is here - http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/37482/60/draft-2011-nfl-mock-20?pg=2
 
7. 49ers: Patrick Peterson, cornerback, LSU.

Peterson's talent probably deserves to go higher, but there hasn't been a corner drafted in the top five in eight years. The 2010 Thorpe Award winner as college football's top defensive back, Peterson's addition would allow the Niners to comfortably part with overpriced Nate Clements.
Rest of his mock is here - http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/37482/60/draft-2011-nfl-mock-20?pg=2
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Rob Rang and Chad Reuter at CBS also both have Cam going #1 so I dont think it is shocking anymore. The momentum is building.

Not what I would do but lots of others think it might happen

 
Rob Rang and Chad Reuter at CBS also both have Cam going #1 so I dont think it is shocking anymore. The momentum is building. Not what I would do but lots of others think it might happen
I'm not doubting those predicting he goes #1, but I am asking, "Has Carolina lost their mind?".
 
I would be very surprised if it's not Newton or Mallett.
Mallett #1? That would be so out of the ballpark it would be crazy. I give Newton a MUCH greater chance of success than Mallett. Admittedly, I only really saw his performance in the bowl game, but he just did not look comfortable in the pocket with pressure coming at him.
 
'gandalas said:
'zadok said:
I would be very surprised if it's not Newton or Mallett.
Mallett #1? That would be so out of the ballpark it would be crazy. I give Newton a MUCH greater chance of success than Mallett. Admittedly, I only really saw his performance in the bowl game, but he just did not look comfortable in the pocket with pressure coming at him.
Mallet will have a better career than Newton if Mallet doesn't have drug issues. As far as what I've seen from Newton, both in-season and combine, he couldn't hit the ocean if he was standing at waters edge.
 
'Deranged Hermit said:
Heh. If CAR takes Newton at 1.1, they're in for a lot of top 3 draft choices in the next 5-7 years.
So then Carolina is drafting Cam Newton to convert him to tight end once they draft Andrew Luck?! Huzzah! :excited:
 
'Deranged Hermit said:
Heh. If CAR takes Newton at 1.1, they're in for a lot of top 3 draft choices in the next 5-7 years.
So then Carolina is drafting Cam Newton to convert him to tight end once they draft Andrew Luck?! Huzzah! :excited:
I get a felling that CAR's cheap-### ownership won't want to spend first pick money to a TE. ;)
 
I don't see how anyone can take this mock seriously when they have Patrick Peterson going at 1.07! No way he makes it out of the top 5.

 
'gandalas said:
'zadok said:
I would be very surprised if it's not Newton or Mallett.
Mallett #1? That would be so out of the ballpark it would be crazy. I give Newton a MUCH greater chance of success than Mallett. Admittedly, I only really saw his performance in the bowl game, but he just did not look comfortable in the pocket with pressure coming at him.
Mallet will have a better career than Newton if Mallet doesn't have drug issues. As far as what I've seen from Newton, both in-season and combine, he couldn't hit the ocean if he was standing at waters edge.
Newton completed 66.1% of his passes this year compared to Mallet's 64.7%. He also threw for 10.19 yards per attempt versus Mallet's 9.41. So it wasn't like he put up a higher completion percentage throwing shorter passes. Other than the combine showing, I still haven't heard any experts talking about an accuracy problem. You seem alone in saying that it was a problem during the season.
 
I don't think Newton at #1 is anywhere near as crazy as Ponder in the middle of the first.
I don't think it's crazy. I could see it happening.
All I know is that I didn't hear a word about Ponder potentially being better than a 2nd until he had a good day throwing in shorts in Indy. Now he's all the way up to mid-first? I find that crazy.
The unpredictability of the draft lies in the fact that teams don't draft on the consensus. It's what is great about it, that the draftnik fans think they are informed, and yet are just informed on what the consensus is among draft websites. It isn't really that much of a stretch to imagine that at least one team doesn't have Ponder as their #1 QB, and that's all it takes for a team to feel like they are getting a steal when he is the 3rd QB to go, for example. There's no way of knowing if the Vikes, for example, view Ponder as a future starter at QB.
 
Wes Bunting has been extremely high on Ponder from the start. I think he may have even said that he expects Ponder to be the best QB out of the class in the end.

 
I don't think Newton at #1 is anywhere near as crazy as Ponder in the middle of the first.
I don't think it's crazy. I could see it happening.
All I know is that I didn't hear a word about Ponder potentially being better than a 2nd until he had a good day throwing in shorts in Indy. Now he's all the way up to mid-first? I find that crazy.
I hear you, but no one had Tyson Alualu in the top ten last year. Except the Jags. I would welcome the selection of Christian Ponder.
 
7. 49ers: Patrick Peterson, cornerback, LSU.

Peterson's talent probably deserves to go higher, but there hasn't been a corner drafted in the top five in eight years. The 2010 Thorpe Award winner as college football's top defensive back, Peterson's addition would allow the Niners to comfortably part with overpriced Nate Clements.
Rest of his mock is here - http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/37482/60/draft-2011-nfl-mock-20?pg=2
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that would be a nightmare for the other nfc west teams
 
Von Miller & Patrick Patterson on the best players in this draft.

Carolina needs to sell tickets so I think they'll go Newton.

 
I can see Newton going #1, easily.

There's also a reason these teams are in the top of the 1st. They are bad at personnel decisions.

Personally, If I am Carolina, I drop back, and take Mallett with a mid 1st. Less risky, less money, rocket arm.

Now I have no idea what the drug rumors are-none of us do, but from a sheer talent standpoint, that arm is off the charts. Does Mallett need to grow upa little-sure, he needs an attitude adjustment, but I will take accuracy over the media star of the Cambine any day of the week. Cam is gonna fall hard in the Pros.

Marino had drug rumors before he was drafted, maybe Mallett turns out fine also.

 
Mallett's not the type of QB I'd be looking for in the NFL, IMO. He's not very athletic:

Ryan Mallett runs 5.37 forty time at Pro DayPosted by Evan Silva on March 8, 2011, 1:24 PM ESTQuarterback Ryan Mallett ran a 5.37 forty-yard dash time at the Arkansas Razorbacks’ Pro Day on Tuesday.Mallett was the only quarterback to not run at last week’s Scouting Combine, and we now know why.He’s lineman-slow.While forty times and similar measurables have no known correlation to NFL success, Mallett’s Pro Day performance confirms the belief that he’s a below-average athlete. Mallett’s other measurables from Tuesday: 26-inch vertical and 8-foot, 7 1/4-inch broad jump at 6-foot-7 and 247 pounds.He’s lost six pounds since the Combine.Among the quarterbacks timed in Indianapolis, Mallett’s forty would’ve ranked 18th of 18. His broad jump would’ve ranked 16th of the 17 signal callers to participate in that measurement, and his vertical would rank 16th of 17 as well.
 
I can see Newton going #1, easily.There's also a reason these teams are in the top of the 1st. They are bad at personnel decisions.Personally, If I am Carolina, I drop back, and take Mallett with a mid 1st. Less risky, less money, rocket arm.
Why would anyone move up to #1? Who's the player that teams are going overpay for (for maybe the last year)? As for teams being bad at personnel decisions, that has a habit of changing quickly. Indy once chose Manning #1, and no one accuses that front office of stupidity. Carolina hasn't made any more bad draft decisions than anyone else.
 
Personally, If I am Carolina, I drop back,
Easier said than done. I think fans of just about every team in the top 5 would like to see their team trade down a few spots. On a side note, I distinctly remember Buffalo getting absolutely ripped by observers for passing on Jimmy Claussen not once but twice. I'm glad we blew the #9 pick on a different scrub.
 
Mallett's not the type of QB I'd be looking for in the NFL, IMO. He's not very athletic:

Ryan Mallett runs 5.37 forty time at Pro DayPosted by Evan Silva on March 8, 2011, 1:24 PM ESTQuarterback Ryan Mallett ran a 5.37 forty-yard dash time at the Arkansas Razorbacks’ Pro Day on Tuesday.Mallett was the only quarterback to not run at last week’s Scouting Combine, and we now know why.He’s lineman-slow.While forty times and similar measurables have no known correlation to NFL success, Mallett’s Pro Day performance confirms the belief that he’s a below-average athlete. Mallett’s other measurables from Tuesday: 26-inch vertical and 8-foot, 7 1/4-inch broad jump at 6-foot-7 and 247 pounds.He’s lost six pounds since the Combine.Among the quarterbacks timed in Indianapolis, Mallett’s forty would’ve ranked 18th of 18. His broad jump would’ve ranked 16th of the 17 signal callers to participate in that measurement, and his vertical would rank 16th of 17 as well.
I wonder how much speed really affects a qb. They certainly need to be able to move around in the pocket, but I'm not sure a 40 time means much. It's not like people were expecting him to be the next Vick.
 
Mallett's not the type of QB I'd be looking for in the NFL, IMO. He's not very athletic:

Ryan Mallett runs 5.37 forty time at Pro DayPosted by Evan Silva on March 8, 2011, 1:24 PM ESTQuarterback Ryan Mallett ran a 5.37 forty-yard dash time at the Arkansas Razorbacks’ Pro Day on Tuesday.Mallett was the only quarterback to not run at last week’s Scouting Combine, and we now know why.He’s lineman-slow.While forty times and similar measurables have no known correlation to NFL success, Mallett’s Pro Day performance confirms the belief that he’s a below-average athlete. Mallett’s other measurables from Tuesday: 26-inch vertical and 8-foot, 7 1/4-inch broad jump at 6-foot-7 and 247 pounds.He’s lost six pounds since the Combine.Among the quarterbacks timed in Indianapolis, Mallett’s forty would’ve ranked 18th of 18. His broad jump would’ve ranked 16th of the 17 signal callers to participate in that measurement, and his vertical would rank 16th of 17 as well.
I wonder how much speed really affects a qb. They certainly need to be able to move around in the pocket, but I'm not sure a 40 time means much. It's not like people were expecting him to be the next Vick.
Bledsoe was a statue and carved out a nice career for himself.
 
Mallett's not the type of QB I'd be looking for in the NFL, IMO. He's not very athletic:

Ryan Mallett runs 5.37 forty time at Pro DayPosted by Evan Silva on March 8, 2011, 1:24 PM ESTQuarterback Ryan Mallett ran a 5.37 forty-yard dash time at the Arkansas Razorbacks’ Pro Day on Tuesday.Mallett was the only quarterback to not run at last week’s Scouting Combine, and we now know why.He’s lineman-slow.While forty times and similar measurables have no known correlation to NFL success, Mallett’s Pro Day performance confirms the belief that he’s a below-average athlete. Mallett’s other measurables from Tuesday: 26-inch vertical and 8-foot, 7 1/4-inch broad jump at 6-foot-7 and 247 pounds.He’s lost six pounds since the Combine.Among the quarterbacks timed in Indianapolis, Mallett’s forty would’ve ranked 18th of 18. His broad jump would’ve ranked 16th of the 17 signal callers to participate in that measurement, and his vertical would rank 16th of 17 as well.
Quick bring up Tom BRady's combine numbers
 
A different story emerges from his pro day.

Mallett a first-rounder after pro day workout?Posted: March 8th, 2011 | Bucky Brooks | Tags: Ryan Mallett,FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. — Ryan Mallett’s workout Tuesday at Arkansas’ pro day could propel him back into the first round.The junior was absolutely sensational during the workout, and his natural talent is unrivaled in this year’s draft. As a strong-armed passer, Mallett easily makes all of the requisite throws in the pro game. He had little trouble putting the ball on the proper shoulder with velocity and zip. His arm strength, touch and accuracy also stood out on deep throws. His high-arcing throws consistently hit receivers in stride 40-45 yards down field, but he also showed the ability to adjust the arc and trajectory of his throws to match the speed of his intended receiver.Mallett’s footwork and fundamentals were sound in the pocket, as he quickly sets up and comes to balance following three-, five- or seven-step drops. His natural rhythm comes from his extensive experience running a pro-style attack, and he shouldn’t have any problem transitioning to the next level from a physical standpoint.When looking for a flaw in Mallett’s workout, I would have to point to his disappointing athleticism. He ran a slow 5.37 seconds in the 40-yard dash and only registered a 26-inch vertical. Those numbers indicate that he will struggle escaping the pocket and that he isn’t a threat to run.However, everyone who watched the game tape understood that fact going into the workout, and only wanted to see how well Mallett could reset his feet and throw on time. He didn’t really get a chance to showcase those skills in this controlled workout, but he will need to show those skills in private workouts.If he can address that flaw and the looming character concerns, Mallett could hear his name called at the end of the first round.
 
I can see Newton going #1, easily.There's also a reason these teams are in the top of the 1st. They are bad at personnel decisions.Personally, If I am Carolina, I drop back, and take Mallett with a mid 1st. Less risky, less money, rocket arm.
Why would anyone move up to #1? Who's the player that teams are going overpay for (for maybe the last year)? As for teams being bad at personnel decisions, that has a habit of changing quickly. Indy once chose Manning #1, and no one accuses that front office of stupidity. Carolina hasn't made any more bad draft decisions than anyone else.
I just think teams are going to continue to fall in love with Newton. I don't think he is worth it whatsoever, in fact I am fairly down on him.Everyone makes a bad draft pick from time to time, - Carolina traded their 2, to take Armanti Edwards last year. That to me was glaring-some pundits stated he would be a very late draft pick. High pick invested in ClaussenI agree, the only players I would move up in this draft to the 1 spot, would be Peterson, or Miller.
 
Mallett's not the type of QB I'd be looking for in the NFL, IMO. He's not very athletic:

Ryan Mallett runs 5.37 forty time at Pro DayPosted by Evan Silva on March 8, 2011, 1:24 PM ESTQuarterback Ryan Mallett ran a 5.37 forty-yard dash time at the Arkansas Razorbacks’ Pro Day on Tuesday.Mallett was the only quarterback to not run at last week’s Scouting Combine, and we now know why.He’s lineman-slow.While forty times and similar measurables have no known correlation to NFL success, Mallett’s Pro Day performance confirms the belief that he’s a below-average athlete. Mallett’s other measurables from Tuesday: 26-inch vertical and 8-foot, 7 1/4-inch broad jump at 6-foot-7 and 247 pounds.He’s lost six pounds since the Combine.Among the quarterbacks timed in Indianapolis, Mallett’s forty would’ve ranked 18th of 18. His broad jump would’ve ranked 16th of the 17 signal callers to participate in that measurement, and his vertical would rank 16th of 17 as well.
I wonder how much speed really affects a qb. They certainly need to be able to move around in the pocket, but I'm not sure a 40 time means much. It's not like people were expecting him to be the next Vick.
Bledsoe was a statue and carved out a nice career for himself.
And at the end of Bledsoe's career there was a TON of talk about how a QB like him just can't survive in today's NFL anymore. Bledsoe could still read a defense and sling the ball when he retired, but he couldn't avoid a pass rush to save his life. Say what you want about Brady and Manning, but they both are fairly nimble in the pocket and can move and reset quickly to avoid pressure. That doesn't mean that Mallet will be a failure and that Newton will succeed, but I think the odds are much more in favor of a guy like Newton than a guy like Mallet in today's NFL.
 
Mallett's not the type of QB I'd be looking for in the NFL, IMO. He's not very athletic:

Ryan Mallett runs 5.37 forty time at Pro DayPosted by Evan Silva on March 8, 2011, 1:24 PM ESTQuarterback Ryan Mallett ran a 5.37 forty-yard dash time at the Arkansas Razorbacks’ Pro Day on Tuesday.Mallett was the only quarterback to not run at last week’s Scouting Combine, and we now know why.He’s lineman-slow.While forty times and similar measurables have no known correlation to NFL success, Mallett’s Pro Day performance confirms the belief that he’s a below-average athlete. Mallett’s other measurables from Tuesday: 26-inch vertical and 8-foot, 7 1/4-inch broad jump at 6-foot-7 and 247 pounds.He’s lost six pounds since the Combine.Among the quarterbacks timed in Indianapolis, Mallett’s forty would’ve ranked 18th of 18. His broad jump would’ve ranked 16th of the 17 signal callers to participate in that measurement, and his vertical would rank 16th of 17 as well.
I wonder how much speed really affects a qb. They certainly need to be able to move around in the pocket, but I'm not sure a 40 time means much. It's not like people were expecting him to be the next Vick.
Bledsoe was a statue and carved out a nice career for himself.
And at the end of Bledsoe's career there was a TON of talk about how a QB like him just can't survive in today's NFL anymore. Bledsoe could still read a defense and sling the ball when he retired, but he couldn't avoid a pass rush to save his life. Say what you want about Brady and Manning, but they both are fairly nimble in the pocket and can move and reset quickly to avoid pressure. That doesn't mean that Mallet will be a failure and that Newton will succeed, but I think the odds are much more in favor of a guy like Newton than a guy like Mallet in today's NFL.
A QB can be slow, and still avoid the pressure. Look at tape of Brady's 40 at the combine. He looks like a mentally challenged giraffe. I have no idea if Mallett can or cannot, but a 40 time isn't going to tell me the answer.
 
A different story emerges from his pro day.

Mallett a first-rounder after pro day workout?Posted: March 8th, 2011 | Bucky Brooks | Tags: Ryan Mallett,FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. — Ryan Mallett’s workout Tuesday at Arkansas’ pro day could propel him back into the first round.The junior was absolutely sensational during the workout, and his natural talent is unrivaled in this year’s draft. As a strong-armed passer, Mallett easily makes all of the requisite throws in the pro game. He had little trouble putting the ball on the proper shoulder with velocity and zip. His arm strength, touch and accuracy also stood out on deep throws. His high-arcing throws consistently hit receivers in stride 40-45 yards down field, but he also showed the ability to adjust the arc and trajectory of his throws to match the speed of his intended receiver.Mallett’s footwork and fundamentals were sound in the pocket, as he quickly sets up and comes to balance following three-, five- or seven-step drops. His natural rhythm comes from his extensive experience running a pro-style attack, and he shouldn’t have any problem transitioning to the next level from a physical standpoint.When looking for a flaw in Mallett’s workout, I would have to point to his disappointing athleticism. He ran a slow 5.37 seconds in the 40-yard dash and only registered a 26-inch vertical. Those numbers indicate that he will struggle escaping the pocket and that he isn’t a threat to run.However, everyone who watched the game tape understood that fact going into the workout, and only wanted to see how well Mallett could reset his feet and throw on time. He didn’t really get a chance to showcase those skills in this controlled workout, but he will need to show those skills in private workouts.If he can address that flaw and the looming character concerns, Mallett could hear his name called at the end of the first round.
you know Ive liked Mallets talent all along. Kid has the best skills of any QB in this draft. IMO he needs a stable situation and to sit for 2 years and learn to maximize hs potential. Love him in round2 of dynasty drafts this season
 
5 suspect QBs going in the first round. Dream on.
I'm sure those good teams in the bottom 3rd of the draft are licking their chops at the possibility of great talent falling to them because of these idiot teams drafting QBs that have no business going in the 1st round.
 
Heh. If CAR takes Newton at 1.1, they're in for a lot of top 3 draft choices in the next 5-7 years.
My opinion as well.
As is mine. The Panthers are going to have to suck it up and draft Peterson at #1. He is the only cant miss in this draft and I have a feeling you can build your defense around him. The dude is just an amazing athlete and reminds me of Revis. If there is no CBA then Carolina cannot trade the pick. I think Newton may eventually be a good qb but way too risky for the Panthers to gamble on. As someone said, they drafted a qb in the 2nd, traded this years second and if they were to draft Newton and he busts then that is a ton of high draft picks to try and recover to become a good team. But if they did draft Newton then there would be an absolute groundswell buzz that the team probably needs right now. Is drafting Newton the worst that could happen, probably not but the Panthers are in the razor thin breaking point of making one bad pick and slipping into a tire fire of a franchise.
 
I can see Newton going #1, easily.

There's also a reason these teams are in the top of the 1st. They are bad at personnel decisions.

Personally, If I am Carolina, I drop back, and take Mallett with a mid 1st. Less risky, less money, rocket arm.

Now I have no idea what the drug rumors are-none of us do, but from a sheer talent standpoint, that arm is off the charts. Does Mallett need to grow upa little-sure, he needs an attitude adjustment, but I will take accuracy over the media star of the Cambine any day of the week. Cam is gonna fall hard in the Pros.

Marino had drug rumors before he was drafted, maybe Mallett turns out fine also.
It's not like they can just snap their fingers and make this happen. Who out there wants to move up and pay that #1 price? In a class where the DL's are impressive and the skill positions not-so-much, who wants to trade up to #1?
 

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