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I would have thought that after last year St. Louis would have learned. Before the bye vs after, SJAX was used in such a different capacity and he was extremely productive.

Yet today he isn't being used the way he should. The fumbles are a product of not having any carries in the preseason, but the lack of receptions and the eagerness to give up on the run and inexcusable.

 
I would have thought that after last year St. Louis would have learned. Before the bye vs after, SJAX was used in such a different capacity and he was extremely productive.Yet today he isn't being used the way he should. The fumbles are a product of not having any carries in the preseason, but the lack of receptions and the eagerness to give up on the run and inexcusable.
The fumbles have nothing to do with carries in the preseason. he has been playing running back for 20 years. You hold onto the football.
 
He's not going to have 20 fantasy points every week. He looked good early, but the combination of Pace's injury, the Panthers defense, and the score took Jackson out of the game. He had a horrible game last year against the Panthers too. Jackson will be fine.

 
WOW, he scored half as many points as Bush did Thursday night in my PPR league, yet he is easily forgiven and justified. Bush is already being called the biggest FF bust this year. For the overall #2 pick to score only 3.1 points the first week, -4 due to 2 fumbles? I guess all things aren't considered equal.

 
WOW, he scored half as many points as Bush did Thursday night in my PPR league, yet he is easily forgiven and justified. Bush is already being called the biggest FF bust this year. For the overall #2 pick to score only 3.1 points the first week, -4 due to 2 fumbles? I guess all things aren't considered equal.
Steven Jackson is excused as you say because he proved himself last year, Reggie Bush has yet to prove that he can be a consistent runner in this league, not receiver, runner.
 
WOW, he scored half as many points as Bush did Thursday night in my PPR league, yet he is easily forgiven and justified. Bush is already being called the biggest FF bust this year. For the overall #2 pick to score only 3.1 points the first week, -4 due to 2 fumbles? I guess all things aren't considered equal.
thats because you own reggie bush and are mad about it.-bizkliz-
 
I think S-Jax owners aren't going to be too happy this year. Sure he's a stud RB - but I don't expect him to improve on his numbers.

With a legit TE on the team, and Brian Leonard brought in - I think they're going to become less predictable inside the red zone.

 
Brian Leonard had nothing to do with it. The fact is he had the same start last year and the play calling was abysmal then, as it is now. I can't get over St. Louis down 4 going into the 4th quarter and SJAX only gets ONE carry the entire quarter. The coaching staff pulled the same crap last year, they are too quick to go to the passing game.

Look at Sad Diego, did they stop giving L|T the ball today even though they were behind and L|T was doing nothing?

 
Newsflash: Steven Jackson isn't a stud RB from an NFL perspective. As a runner, I think he rates as above average, good but not great. Doesn't utilize his power as much as he should. Doesn't always hit the hole with authority or even hit the correct hole at all. And he has a tendency to bounce things outside all the freaking time. That little hopstep looks nice the first three times, but when you see that it is followed up with an east-west run to the sideline for 2 yards you get extremely frustrated. Don't even get me started with his TD prospects. Marhsall Faulk was a stud because he knew how to finesse the hole and squeeze his body through. Jackson is a beastly RB that doesn't exactly know that he is a beast.

PS: Notice the Holt TD inside the 5 yard line out of the 4 WR set with an empty backfield....

 
From the #2 overall pick....a 0.1 pt. game at any point in the season is very disappointing. In week 1 it is also very concerning. Will it become a trend? Is the offense really this bad? This game was at home, wasn't it?

As an S-Jax owner, I'm pretty pissed at this game. All I needed was an average game (either a TD or no fumbles) and I would win this week easily. Now I have to hope things go well Monday night.

 
Is it me or did he look sluggish or slow today?
It's you. ;-)Panther fan and SJax owner who thought the Cats did a good job of getting penetration. When the Rams got him to the corners he was scary. Just didn't happen that much, and he ran into Holt for a fumble on one of those.
 
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Just give credit where credit is due. The Panthers defense is good and it shut SJAX down. Just like the Bears defense shut down LT running the ball. I own him and it was disappointing today, but he is a STUD back and will produce like one this year. Don't go overboard because of 1 game.

 
Newsflash: Steven Jackson isn't a stud RB from an NFL perspective. As a runner, I think he rates as above average, good but not great. Doesn't utilize his power as much as he should. Doesn't always hit the hole with authority or even hit the correct hole at all. And he has a tendency to bounce things outside all the freaking time. That little hopstep looks nice the first three times, but when you see that it is followed up with an east-west run to the sideline for 2 yards you get extremely frustrated. Don't even get me started with his TD prospects. Marhsall Faulk was a stud because he knew how to finesse the hole and squeeze his body through. Jackson is a beastly RB that doesn't exactly know that he is a beast.PS: Notice the Holt TD inside the 5 yard line out of the 4 WR set with an empty backfield....
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Everyone who doubts what I said about Jackson as an NFL RB, watch a few Ram's games and you will see what I mean. I am a SF homer and I watch all the Ram's replays closely. I've seen the guy on TV and in person many times. Who here can honestly say that Jackson is one of the top5 most talented runners in the NFL? I call that person a liar. Jackson is a great pass catching RB, but as a pure runner he is justabove average. He's not good at picking the right holes. He bounces things outside way way too often for a RB his size. And instead of running with power, he likes to do the little hop steps to evade tacklers rather than powering through them. A couple seasons back when Jackson was sharing time with a 60% Marshall Faulk, the differences were very apparent between them. Faulk showed finesse and patience but at the same time knew when to put his head down. Even at 60%, his instincts kept him in the game. When Jackson came in, you saw a much more physical, athletic player that was less of a RB. I think Jackson has matured a bit since then, but at the same time he has lost a little something. By trying to become more of a complete player instead of relying so much on his athleticism, he has lost a lot of his beastliness trying nifty juke moves. He is still not a complete runner and I'm not sure he ever will be. Again, talking about the NFL player here, not the fantasy player.

Now I don't think Jackson is a fumbler, today was just a fluke. He got careless handling the ball this week trying to make things happen.

You want to see a stud runner, look at LJ. That guy is a beast that knows when to use his power, finds the right hole most of the time, and can make moves while running north south.

 
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Jackson is just a marked man, now. He's now going to be the focal point of every D coordinator's gameplan instead of Holt. And if Holt and Bruce can step up and make plays and spread the field, it will force Ds to account for them again more. But if it doesnt happen, every team in the league is going to line up 8 in the box and dare the Rams to beat them some other way. But dont sweat it. Every guy's gonna have a bad game once in a while. It just so happened to be the first game.

 
Everyone who doubts what I said about Jackson as an NFL RB, watch a few Ram's games and you will see what I mean. I am a SF homer and I watch all the Ram's replays closely. I've seen the guy on TV and in person many times. Who here can honestly say that Jackson is one of the top5 most talented runners in the NFL? I call that person a liar. Jackson is a great pass catching RB, but as a pure runner he is justabove average. He's not good at picking the right holes. He bounces things outside way way too often for a RB his size. And instead of running with power, he likes to do the little hop steps to evade tacklers rather than powering through them. A couple seasons back when Jackson was sharing time with a 60% Marshall Faulk, the differences were very apparent between them. Faulk showed finesse and patience but at the same time knew when to put his head down. Even at 60%, his instincts kept him in the game. When Jackson came in, you saw a much more physical, athletic player that was less of a RB. I think Jackson has matured a bit since then, but at the same time he has lost a little something. By trying to become more of a complete player instead of relying so much on his athleticism, he has lost a lot of his beastliness trying nifty juke moves. He is still not a complete runner and I'm not sure he ever will be. Again, talking about the NFL player here, not the fantasy player.

Now I don't think Jackson is a fumbler, today was just a fluke. He got careless handling the ball this week trying to make things happen.

You want to see a stud runner, look at LJ. That guy is a beast that knows when to use his power, finds the right hole most of the time, and can make moves while running north south.
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Everyone who doubts what I said about Jackson as an NFL RB, watch a few Ram's games and you will see what I mean.
:confused: holy #### why didn't i think of that?

 
He's not going to have 20 fantasy points every week. He looked good early, but the combination of Pace's injury, the Panthers defense, and the score took Jackson out of the game. He had a horrible game last year against the Panthers too. Jackson will be fine.
If that injury is serious,and keeps Pace out for a while, that speels trouble for that offense..Bulger was getting killed out there..he won't stay upright for too long,if defenders keep hitting him like that.
 
kensat30 said:
Everyone who doubts what I said about Jackson as an NFL RB, watch a few Ram's games and you will see what I mean. I am a SF homer and I watch all the Ram's replays closely. I've seen the guy on TV and in person many times. Who here can honestly say that Jackson is one of the top5 most talented runners in the NFL? I call that person a liar. Jackson is a great pass catching RB, but as a pure runner he is justabove average. He's not good at picking the right holes. He bounces things outside way way too often for a RB his size. And instead of running with power, he likes to do the little hop steps to evade tacklers rather than powering through them. A couple seasons back when Jackson was sharing time with a 60% Marshall Faulk, the differences were very apparent between them. Faulk showed finesse and patience but at the same time knew when to put his head down. Even at 60%, his instincts kept him in the game. When Jackson came in, you saw a much more physical, athletic player that was less of a RB. I think Jackson has matured a bit since then, but at the same time he has lost a little something. By trying to become more of a complete player instead of relying so much on his athleticism, he has lost a lot of his beastliness trying nifty juke moves. He is still not a complete runner and I'm not sure he ever will be. Again, talking about the NFL player here, not the fantasy player.Now I don't think Jackson is a fumbler, today was just a fluke. He got careless handling the ball this week trying to make things happen.You want to see a stud runner, look at LJ. That guy is a beast that knows when to use his power, finds the right hole most of the time, and can make moves while running north south.
did you watch the Rams at all last year??? SJax will be stud-like if he gets a stud-like amount of touches.
 
there are reports (jay glazer of fox) that pace could be done for the year...

he will have an MRI tomorrow... they just lost their backup LT recently... barron did play the position in college, but that would leave a hole at RT...

all that said, jax put up some big numbers last year with pace out a significant part of the season...

 
WOW, he scored half as many points as Bush did Thursday night in my PPR league, yet he is easily forgiven and justified. Bush is already being called the biggest FF bust this year. For the overall #2 pick to score only 3.1 points the first week, -4 due to 2 fumbles? I guess all things aren't considered equal.
Steven Jackson is excused as you say because he proved himself last year, Reggie Bush has yet to prove that he can be a consistent runner in this league, not receiver, runner.
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kensat30 said:
Everyone who doubts what I said about Jackson as an NFL RB, watch a few Ram's games and you will see what I mean. I am a SF homer and I watch all the Ram's replays closely. I've seen the guy on TV and in person many times. Who here can honestly say that Jackson is one of the top5 most talented runners in the NFL? I call that person a liar. Jackson is a great pass catching RB, but as a pure runner he is justabove average. He's not good at picking the right holes. He bounces things outside way way too often for a RB his size. And instead of running with power, he likes to do the little hop steps to evade tacklers rather than powering through them. A couple seasons back when Jackson was sharing time with a 60% Marshall Faulk, the differences were very apparent between them. Faulk showed finesse and patience but at the same time knew when to put his head down. Even at 60%, his instincts kept him in the game. When Jackson came in, you saw a much more physical, athletic player that was less of a RB. I think Jackson has matured a bit since then, but at the same time he has lost a little something. By trying to become more of a complete player instead of relying so much on his athleticism, he has lost a lot of his beastliness trying nifty juke moves. He is still not a complete runner and I'm not sure he ever will be. Again, talking about the NFL player here, not the fantasy player.Now I don't think Jackson is a fumbler, today was just a fluke. He got careless handling the ball this week trying to make things happen.You want to see a stud runner, look at LJ. That guy is a beast that knows when to use his power, finds the right hole most of the time, and can make moves while running north south.
A fellow 49er fan here and I want to agree with what you posted in total, but I think Jackson just needs to get his pads down a little. I think he has top five talent and is a great fit for the Rams system. I just fear his running style (Upright) will shorten his career. As a Bulger owner I am not one bit happy about Pace going out.
 

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