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I remember a few yrs ago I was pimping Westbrook as the next Faulk and got killed for it by people in my league.

Can Slaton be the next Westbrook?

from what I have seen he has all the tools.If they would just give him the ball 25+ times a game he should put up top 5 fantasy number

 
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Football fever said:
I remember a few yrs ago I was pimping Westbrook as the next Faulk and got killed for it by people in my league.

Can Slaton be the next Westbrook?

from what I have seen he has all the tools.If they would just give him the ball 25+ times a game he should put up top 5 fantasy number
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He's putting up top 5 numbers with the touches he's getting now.But he's not Brian Westbrook. He's got decent hands but he is not and probably never will be the focal point of the Texans offense. Westbrook is the Eagles offense.

 
Hasn't missed a game yet. There's still time, though. I figure if he comes up lame just in time for the fantasy playoffs, he'll be right on track.

 
Nate said:
Football fever said:
I remember a few yrs ago I was pimping Westbrook as the next Faulk and got killed for it by people in my league.

Can Slaton be the next Westbrook?

from what I have seen he has all the tools.If they would just give him the ball 25+ times a game he should put up top 5 fantasy number
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He's putting up top 5 numbers with the touches he's getting now.But he's not Brian Westbrook. He's got decent hands but he is not and probably never will be the focal point of the Texans offense. Westbrook is the Eagles offense.
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he is #9 in both of my leagues....I know Kubiak said a couple of weeks ago he wanted to limit him to 20 touches a game.The way I see it the more chances they give him the more chances he has to break a long one.The local Cinci radio guys said that when they meet him in person last week that he was built like a brick!Is there any good reason to believe that he would not hold up if given more touches? Was he hurt much at WV?

 
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Football fever said:
Nate said:
Football fever said:
I remember a few yrs ago I was pimping Westbrook as the next Faulk and got killed for it by people in my league.

Can Slaton be the next Westbrook?

from what I have seen he has all the tools.If they would just give him the ball 25+ times a game he should put up top 5 fantasy number
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He's putting up top 5 numbers with the touches he's getting now.But he's not Brian Westbrook. He's got decent hands but he is not and probably never will be the focal point of the Texans offense. Westbrook is the Eagles offense.
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he is #9 in my both of my leagues....I know Kubiak said a couple of weeks ago he wanted to limit him to 20 touches a game.The way I see it the more chances they give him the more chances he has to break a long one.The local Cinci radio guys said that when they meet him in person last week that he was built like a brick!Is there any good reason to believe that he would not hold up if given more touches? Was he hurt much at WV?
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According to FBG scoring, he's #3 (2 yards shy of #2) since being named the starter week 3.Ron Dayne is the only Texans RB to carry more than 20 times in a game since Kubiak arrived (21). I don't think it's special treatment for Slaton. The Texans have usually got more than one serviceable RB on the roster so the carries are spread around to keep guys fresh.

He's small for an RB but there doesn't really need to be much of a reason to limit his touches. If you've got other guys that can run the ball effectively, why would Kubiak test it and see how far he can push his hotshot rookie before he wears down?

 
Any other thoughts to this? I drafted Slaton and am considering dealing him for the right price but his potential is so great that his value is hard to rank. I have him as a top 20 dynasty Rb right now, but will he stay there? Any opinions?

 
I'm trying to get rid of him in my keeper league. Not because of anything too negative (though an anti-Ryan Grant article mentioned he was one of the worst starters in the NFL talent-wise), but mostly because he has a tough 14-15-16 matchup this year. I wouldn't mind keeping him for next year, but I wanna win this year. So my plan is to get someone of equal or trade some picks next year for someone slightly higher (Chris J. or similar). The way it looks is that nothing will happen.

Another negative point - Kubiak is Shannahan Jr., right? Ahman Green got a good % of touches the last 2 weeks. That wouldn't happen if he's a stud.

I guess my point is, I'm not super high on the guy, but I'd love it if he turns out to be Westbrook light.

Convince me I'm wrong.

 
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Another negative point - Kubiak is Shannahan Jr., right? Ahman Green got a good % of touches the last 2 weeks. That wouldn't happen if he's a stud.
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That makes no sense. Shanahan has proven that, when he has a stud, he rides him hard. He just hasn't a real stud since Clinton Portis left. Trust me, if a stud three-down RB emerged in Denver, the other RBs wouldn't see the field that much.
 
jabarony said:
I'm trying to get rid of him in my keeper league. Not because of anything too negative (though an anti-Ryan Grant article mentioned he was one of the worst starters in the NFL talent-wise), but mostly because he has a tough 14-15-16 matchup this year. I wouldn't mind keeping him for next year, but I wanna win this year. So my plan is to get someone of equal or trade some picks next year for someone slightly higher (Chris J. or similar). The way it looks is that nothing will happen.

Another negative point - Kubiak is Shannahan Jr., right? Ahman Green got a good % of touches the last 2 weeks. That wouldn't happen if he's a stud.

I guess my point is, I'm not super high on the guy, but I'd love it if he turns out to be Westbrook light.

Convince me I'm wrong.
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Kubiak is Shanahan Jr?? Huh?Oh because he OCed under Shanahan! And Shanahan has never produced a stud RB :confused:

Perhaps you meant to say the Texans' OC is Shanahan Jr. :thumbup: In that respect, I really couldn't disagree.

Seriously though; the kid is a rookie and he's performed extremely well. Doubtful he wins ROY with the incredible performances from Ryan & Johnson, but he's got to be considered. Why does he have to be the next Westbrook?

Slaton is getting the exact same cut of the workload now as he did before Green came back. Very few teams pound the ball with one back 30 times a game anymore, and even the few that do aren't guaranteed anything (see Grant, Ryan). Some players in a committee can still be a stud (see Barber, Marion).

 
Where's the westbrook comparison coming from?

Except for the game against TENN, his receiving stats aren't really all that impressive. Weird game because the texans got blown out and he put up incredible numbers against a D that no one else has.

I have been impressed with the way he's managed to break a big run (20+) in almost every game. How has he managed in pass protection? That's the biggest difference between a change of pace type back and a guy like westy or tiki. I wouldn't get overly excited about him until you see how he finishes the season. Next two games will be really telling with Minnesota and Baltimore on the docket. I'll run the risk of being behind the curve on this one.

EDIT to say that it was the JAX game that he put up big receiving stats.

 
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no. westbrook has a great ability to break tackles not with strength but elusiveness, and use his quickness to escape defenders. has a slipperiness to him

slaton shows he's a tough runner despite a smaller guy, but doesn't show the same elusiveness. maybe a clinton portis.

 
do not understand why some are saying Westy is a bigger back.

slaton- 5'9- 203

westy- 5'10- 203

 
moderated said:
Good player but Westbrook is a lot stronger. I don't see Slaton as very similar to Westbrook.
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When I started the tread it was more about him being small like westbrook and people saying he would never be an every down back in the NFL let alone a star. He is now on pace for 1400 total yds 60 rec and 12 td,s! even putting good numbers up aginst tough D,s
 
ok, i'm officially behind the curve. 8 more catches today against a tough D. got every carry out of the backfield.

 
I think the thing Slaton has most in common with Westbrook and Tiki is alot people on this board saying that he is too small to be an every down back. Only difference is it didnt take Slaton 2-3 years to establish himself as such.

 
cowboyz said:
no. westbrook has a great ability to break tackles not with strength but elusiveness, and use his quickness to escape defenders. has a slipperiness to himslaton shows he's a tough runner despite a smaller guy, but doesn't show the same elusiveness. maybe a clinton portis.
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somebody's been too busy watching the Glitz and Glamour Girls play and not paying attention to Slaton. this kid is really, really good.
 
Football fever said:
moderated said:
Good player but Westbrook is a lot stronger. I don't see Slaton as very similar to Westbrook.
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When I started the tread it was more about him being small like westbrook and people saying he would never be an every down back in the NFL let alone a star. He is now on pace for 1400 total yds 60 rec and 12 td,s! even putting good numbers up aginst tough D,s
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the idiots have been saying this "he's a third down back" crap since preseason, basically because of early season coachspeak. I knew better after the first preseason game. I compared him to Domanick Davis before the regular season even began, correctly predicting that he would easily take the starting job and become an every down back for one simple reason--he's just better than every other running back on the team. He's the best Texans RB since DD's rookie year.
 
Being a West Virginia fan I didnt think Slaton would fit in the NFL because he seemed soft on the college level, but I think he's more than proved people wrong about him. He's got great hands not only out of the backfield but catches the ball good down the field. He's becoming the focal point of that offense.

 
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looking at his highlights He reminds me of a small version of SJAX (hopefully without the injuries) if you give him a crease he is gone :thumbup:

 
Looked good vs the Jags.

+ He had 10 plays of 7 yards or more.

+ Out of 51 rush/pass plays for Houston, he got the ball or was targeted 24 times.

+ His backup (Moats) didn't come in for him until the 9th Houston drive which was in the 4th qtr.

- After his 46yd reception got Houston to the 1yd line, they handed it to Slaton 3 times and he couldn't get in.

 
I don't know where exactly I would think about drafting him next year. But whenever I see a guy who is capable of scoring 3 TDs in any week, he is worth a long look. Even if someone becomes his Fred Taylor-style counterpart, Slaton should be a strong FF starter next season. But I have avoided taking guys like that (Bush, MJD) as RB1 or RB2, so... I dunno. Good player though.

 
Devine Intervention said:
Being a West Virginia fan I didnt think Slaton would fit in the NFL because he seemed soft on the college level, but I think he's more than proved people wrong about him. He's got great hands not only out of the backfield but catches the ball good down the field. He's becoming the vocal point of that offense.
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Huh?
 
very few people believed in brian westbrook. very few people believed in tiki barber. then they were proven wrong. while most people are talking about chris johnson fitting this mold, it sure as heck looks like slaton is ready to become an elite player. i was pretty impressed monday night. i would be buying if i thought he was available in my league.

 
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