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Sleeper Defenses (1 Viewer)

RalphMouth

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Jets, Vikings, Pittsburgh ... these teams will all be taken too early in my opinion.....

I like waiting to find that gem who is up & coming... a team that has great match ups.

Who will that team(s) be ?

 
Giants.

Decimated by injuries last year. Everyone "should" be back. Drafted almost exclusively D this year. Could be good.

But it's still just a D...

 
Sleeper: Without a doubt, 49ersSleeper Sleeper: Bengals
49ers ADP is 7th or 8th for Defense right now, only 2 picks behind Pittsburgh. Now, I think they can outperform their ADP, and I'm probably dealing with semantics, but I'm not sure they qualify as a sleeper. Kinda like saying Matt Schaub is a sleeper, you know? Can they outperform their ADP, of course. Would people be crazy surprised if they did?... probably not.I love the Cincy call though. My #1 target for the second-to-last draft round. I also have a gut feeling that Miami will be a decent committee defense as well, and they're going very late.
 
49ers

Chargers (I like them this season...)

Bengals (top-4 last season, and healthy now)

I like those 3 a LOT this season.

 
This one might be more comatose, but the Browns finished pretty strong last season, and they have a Ryan with them.

:lmao:

 
This one might be more comatose, but the Browns finished pretty strong last season, and they have a Ryan with them. :popcorn:
Browns D should be improved, but this year might be one too soon. They need to incorporate several new pieces into the defensive backfield, including safeties who can tackle. They're on the roster, but they're rookies.
 
The AFC and NFC West play each other this year. That's 10 of their 16 games for each of those teams.

There are mostly average to bad offenses in those divisions. The only really good offense among them is SD, and they are weakened some by the holdouts of their O-Lineman and top WR. Arizona was strong, but Leinart replacing Warner could change a lot of that.

So, finding a defense in that group of 8 teams could be a nice sleeper. People have been saying SF in this thread, but sorry folks, they are not a sleeper. They are going in the top 8 defenses in every draft I'm seeing or involved in, and ranked as such in rankings I see. That's not a sleeper.

For my money, I'm taking Arizona way late in drafts (22nd round and 18th defense in a startup draft I just completed). I do a lot of WW matchup stuff with defenses, and Arizona will have some tasty defensive matchups. I'm starting off with them Week 1 when they play the Rams and hopefully get to take on the rookie QB in his first game.

 
If you are looking for a Week 1 matchup, also consider Miami. They play Buffalo, and new DC Nolan generally has his defenses ready to play early in the year. Buffalo's bad OL and Captain Checkdown QB ought to result in low yardage and scoring totals (if your leagues scores those) and opportunities for turnovers in the 2nd half especially

 
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Same as a lot of the other responses, 49ers and Bengals are my top 2 targeted defenses after the top tier. Then after that i would look towards Green Bay, New Orleans, and Oakland.

 
Miami Dolphins...

- added Mike Nolan as DC (we saw what he did for the Broncos last year)

- added Karlos Dansby at LB

- Sean Smith and Vontae Davis look like two of the most promising young corners in the league. Could be the next Surtain/Madison

- Added early picks in the draft in the front 7, where Parcells drafts well

- Released Gibril Wilson, which instantly makes them better

 
New Orleans, Carolina, Denver, Dallas, Buffalo(let me explain)

New Orleans- Last season, their upgraded D is what ultimately got them to the Super Bowl, and a win there. Expect them to continue last season's great play Finish is traditional scoring leagues- 4th in fantasy points

Carolina- a great defensive schedule, and a D that went under the radar last season

Finish is traditional scoring leagues- 7th in fantasy points

Denver- They dominated on D for 6 weeks, then fell off for most of the remainder of the season. Expect McDaniels to get those dominating results for a longer run this season as he and the team continue to grow together

Finish is traditional scoring leagues- 8th in fantasy points

Dallas- The Cowboys really started to put it together late in the season last year, and their defense got scary. Expect that to be closer to the norm in 2010.

Finish is traditional scoring leagues-11th in fantasy points

Buffalo- Their D actually wasn't all bad last season. With 28 picks, 5 fumble recoveries, 2 TD's and a blocked kick, they posted solid numbers. Their problem was inconsistency, which should improve this season.

Finish is traditional scoring leagues- 10th in fantasy points

 
Depends on how your scoring system.

I love New Orleans if you reward big plays. The offense puts pressure on opposing teams to keep up forcing them to take more risks. On defense Greg Williams is a super aggressive coordinator and they are a serious ball hawkers. I think they are the most likely defense to put up multiple TDs. On the flip side they are boom or bust and give up lots of yardage so if you don't get the big play you could easily end up with a zero from them.

Cincy is not so much of a big play defense, although that can change quickly, but they are solid in all phases and they generally keep games low scoring. I like them for steady weekly points.

My true sleepers are Oakland who I expect to be much improved on offense with Campbell allowing their defense to make plays. And I really like Houston with their high powered offense and what I think are improvements in the secondary I think they could make some noise.

 
I like the Bengals as a sleeper defense also but I always like to go with a committee at defense because you can usually get them much cheaper then you can a top 7 defense. I think the Bengals and Cards are two defenses that are looked at as sleepers and if you put the schedules together they give you some very good weeks.

 
Giants -healthier and lots of sacks

Cardinals - weak schedule

Miami - goo personnel

CLE - if getting special teams TDs

 
Tampa Bay has at least 6-7 pretty nice matchups. Morris knows defense if McCoy is half as good s billed they might be a nice sleeper defense.

Also like KC with the addition of Berry and Romeo as the new DC. They have a pretty soft schedule and might surprise some folks.

 
Cincy was the first to come to mind. They were quite good like year despite never making too many "big plays" on defense. A few INT returns could make them a top 5 defense quickly.

I agree with New Orleans and Miami as mentioned above.

However, IMO, defenses are incredibly difficult to predict. If you can't get a top 3 defense, my suggestion would be to wait and draft late then use the waiver wire every week to pick up lesser defenses with favorable matchups. It's a big more work, but then again think of who you may be passing up when you take that "should be okay" defense in the 12th or whatever.

 
In my opinion, the difference between a mediocre defense and a surprise defense is one player. All it takes is one player having an out-of-his-mind season to turn a boring fantasy defense into a must-start. Look what happened last year with Denver (Elvis Dumervil), New Orleans (Darren Sharper), NYJets (Darrell Revis), and Green Bay (Charles Woodson).

Anyway, as a result, I like to target defenses that have some serious potential playmakers who I wouldn't be surprised to see go off. This year, a couple of defenses that might be getting overlooked that I really like include Dallas (Ware), Chicago (Peppers), Arizona (Wilson), and Houston (Williams/Ryan).

 
I think with the addition of Jerry Hughes, along with Mathis and Freeney, the Colts could be a big play defense. Bob Sanders return wouldn't hurt also. The Colts and Sanders dispute the recent claims that Sanders may not play again because of his shoulder.

 
wanted to add the Chicago defense.... with the addition of Peppers, and Hester/Knox sure to run a few back for TDs, they should be a decent matchup play.

 
What about the Bears with the return of Urlacher, the signing of Peppers and the usual NFC North schedule that includes Detroit (although Stafford should be improved) and Minnesota (Favre could revert to his turnover-proned days)?

Also, their special teams usually produce a few return TDs.

 
Like a lot of other posters, I think the 49ers are a great sleeper pick. Sadly, there's no such thing as a "consensus sleeper pick" so they will probably be one of the first defenses off the board when most drafts take place.

 
Tampa Bay has at least 6-7 pretty nice matchups. Morris knows defense if McCoy is half as good s billed they might be a nice sleeper defense. Also like KC with the addition of Berry and Romeo as the new DC. They have a pretty soft schedule and might surprise some folks.
I have little faith in rookie defensive tackles making a huge impact and TB has two of them. Then again TB will be a waiver wire defense so you don't need to burn a draft pick on them and can wait and see if they develop.Berry might have an impact but there really isn't much else on that defense, particularly the line.
 
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In my opinion, the difference between a mediocre defense and a surprise defense is one player. All it takes is one player having an out-of-his-mind season to turn a boring fantasy defense into a must-start. Look what happened last year with Denver (Elvis Dumervil), New Orleans (Darren Sharper), NYJets (Darrell Revis), and Green Bay (Charles Woodson).Anyway, as a result, I like to target defenses that have some serious potential playmakers who I wouldn't be surprised to see go off. This year, a couple of defenses that might be getting overlooked that I really like include Dallas (Ware), Chicago (Peppers), Arizona (Wilson), and Houston (Williams/Ryan).
I don't think anyone is going to overlook Dallas and it seems that for some reason Chicago's reputation for tough defense (which hasn't been borne out on the field for awhile) always causes someone to grab them early.
 
I think with the addition of Jerry Hughes, along with Mathis and Freeney, the Colts could be a big play defense. Bob Sanders return wouldn't hurt also. The Colts and Sanders dispute the recent claims that Sanders may not play again because of his shoulder.
Like New Orleans, Indy's offense puts a lot of pressure on opposing teams to try and keep up. There should be a lot of opportunities for big plays from the Indy defense. Unfortunately you injured Bob Sanders when you typed his name so don't expect to see him until week six and then not again until 2011. It's a shame he's so frail because he is fun to watch.
 
In my opinion, the difference between a mediocre defense and a surprise defense is one player. All it takes is one player having an out-of-his-mind season to turn a boring fantasy defense into a must-start. Look what happened last year with Denver (Elvis Dumervil), New Orleans (Darren Sharper), NYJets (Darrell Revis), and Green Bay (Charles Woodson).

Anyway, as a result, I like to target defenses that have some serious potential playmakers who I wouldn't be surprised to see go off. This year, a couple of defenses that might be getting overlooked that I really like include Dallas (Ware), Chicago (Peppers), Arizona (Wilson), and Houston (Williams/Ryan).
I don't think anyone is going to overlook Dallas and it seems that for some reason Chicago's reputation for tough defense (which hasn't been borne out on the field for awhile) always causes someone to grab them early.
Possibly. There's really no such thing as "Average draft position" for defenses, since the scoring systems vary so wildly and since they're so volatile from year to year. That's why I keep a list of defense who might fall and then look to grab whichever of them actually do.FWIW, I also really like the Colts and the Steelers, but I didn't list them because I doubted they'd fall... but you never know. In some leagues, they might. That brings my list to 6 teams that I'd draft if they fell (plus the "no duh" teams like Green Bay and the Jets). With a list like that, I'm guaranteed to see at least one (and almost certainly two) of my sleeper defenses still available when I finally decide I'm ready to pick one.

 
Also like KC with the addition of Berry and Romeo as the new DC. They have a pretty soft schedule and might surprise some folks.
Agreed... Eric Berry alone (plus Romeo wouldn't hurt, either) has bumped KC as a super-sleeper DEF due to his pure ball-hawking ability and incredible nose for endzone. Beside, the reviews on this guy is great especially his work ethic and his desire to be great. He's gonna make his team defense better this year than last year.
 
I think with the addition of Jerry Hughes, along with Mathis and Freeney, the Colts could be a big play defense. Bob Sanders return wouldn't hurt also. The Colts and Sanders dispute the recent claims that Sanders may not play again because of his shoulder.
Like New Orleans, Indy's offense puts a lot of pressure on opposing teams to try and keep up. There should be a lot of opportunities for big plays from the Indy defense. Unfortunately you injured Bob Sanders when you typed his name so don't expect to see him until week six and then not again until 2011. It's a shame he's so frail because he is fun to watch.
Sanders throws his body into plays like no other. I'm not sure if he gets hurt because of his size combined with his style of play, or if it's just his style of play. I do think that because of his size he wouldn't be as effective if he didn't play the way he does. Looks like a double edge sword.
 
Giants get my vote.

just completed my 1st of 3 drafts this season last night.

i got the Giants as my last pick in a 12 team league (2nd to last D/ST, next to the Chargers).

better health hopefully this year & i like the few additions they made.

i am happy with them at the spot.

 
The AFC and NFC West play each other this year. That's 10 of their 16 games for each of those teams.There are mostly average to bad offenses in those divisions. The only really good offense among them is SD, and they are weakened some by the holdouts of their O-Lineman and top WR. Arizona was strong, but Leinart replacing Warner could change a lot of that. So, finding a defense in that group of 8 teams could be a nice sleeper. People have been saying SF in this thread, but sorry folks, they are not a sleeper. They are going in the top 8 defenses in every draft I'm seeing or involved in, and ranked as such in rankings I see. That's not a sleeper. For my money, I'm taking Arizona way late in drafts (22nd round and 18th defense in a startup draft I just completed). I do a lot of WW matchup stuff with defenses, and Arizona will have some tasty defensive matchups. I'm starting off with them Week 1 when they play the Rams and hopefully get to take on the rookie QB in his first game.
:shrug:
 
Pitt plays Carolina followed by Cleveland so thats kinda interesting... Seattle has a good SOS and finishes playing Tampa Bay followed by St Louis.

I know we didnt post any scoring!

1) I seen what Dallas can score with big points

2) I like/love the changes in Oakland

3) I kinda have to go with Chicago (home game against the Jets who are comming off playing Pitt) followed by visiting GB for a rivalry game (possible playoff berth etc.)

All in all it does appear like SF has a cake walk but I trully doubt its a gimme to pick em up.

Who you leaning towards, may I ask? :shrug:

 
Cincy was the first to come to mind. They were quite good like year despite never making too many "big plays" on defense. A few INT returns could make them a top 5 defense quickly.
I like Cincy too - the addition of Adam Jones may allow for bigger plays such as INT and kick/punt returns that were lacking last year. Odom being back to put pressure on the QB may result in more INT's. It's all a crap shoot with defenses but Cincy has a lot going for it and can be taken more cheaply than other big name defenses. Unfortunately SF has become everyone's sleeper and will probably end up being overdrafted this year.
 
The AFC and NFC West play each other this year. That's 10 of their 16 games for each of those teams.There are mostly average to bad offenses in those divisions. The only really good offense among them is SD, and they are weakened some by the holdouts of their O-Lineman and top WR. Arizona was strong, but Leinart replacing Warner could change a lot of that. So, finding a defense in that group of 8 teams could be a nice sleeper. People have been saying SF in this thread, but sorry folks, they are not a sleeper. They are going in the top 8 defenses in every draft I'm seeing or involved in, and ranked as such in rankings I see. That's not a sleeper. For my money, I'm taking Arizona way late in drafts (22nd round and 18th defense in a startup draft I just completed). I do a lot of WW matchup stuff with defenses, and Arizona will have some tasty defensive matchups. I'm starting off with them Week 1 when they play the Rams and hopefully get to take on the rookie QB in his first game.
:lmao:
Agree about teams in these 2 divisions but I lean a little more to KC because I believe they will be much improved on offense and defense which will help all parties involved. AZ is interesting too though. Several teams have very soft schedules. Would make the offesive guys on some of these teams look like steals IMO too.
 
The 49ers aren't a secret boys; they go way to high for me.

All of my League that use Team Def are over.. so I reveal my Sleeper.

The Bears are by far the best deal. The addition of a happy Peppers and Urlacher's return along with an incredible return game and they will be a return to top form. The team was a mess, there was no leader there; also the offense didn't help either. Oh yea, the 1st game is against Det.... I have been taking them everywhere.

Also.. I like the Browns to be put on my watch list. Mangini is a good Defensive Coach and with Rob Ryan the D should improve. and they have Cribbs who can return anything to the house... thats always a plus.

 
The AFC and NFC West play each other this year. That's 10 of their 16 games for each of those teams.There are mostly average to bad offenses in those divisions. The only really good offense among them is SD, and they are weakened some by the holdouts of their O-Lineman and top WR. Arizona was strong, but Leinart replacing Warner could change a lot of that. So, finding a defense in that group of 8 teams could be a nice sleeper. People have been saying SF in this thread, but sorry folks, they are not a sleeper. They are going in the top 8 defenses in every draft I'm seeing or involved in, and ranked as such in rankings I see. That's not a sleeper. For my money, I'm taking Arizona way late in drafts (22nd round and 18th defense in a startup draft I just completed). I do a lot of WW matchup stuff with defenses, and Arizona will have some tasty defensive matchups. I'm starting off with them Week 1 when they play the Rams and hopefully get to take on the rookie QB in his first game.
:lmao:
Agree about teams in these 2 divisions but I lean a little more to KC because I believe they will be much improved on offense and defense which will help all parties involved. AZ is interesting too though. Several teams have very soft schedules. Would make the offesive guys on some of these teams look like steals IMO too.
I don't like Zona... Danby is gone and Haynes is about done, I really don't want a Team D that will be missing its 2 starting ILBs.
 
Return TDs don't count for the defense in my leagues...so:

Arizona is a D I seem to like every year, and especially now with potenial for Whitehurst and Bradford. DRC is a guy who seems to do nothing but make plays.

KC is a team I like a lot with Berry and Flowers and McDonald---all 3 are big time playmakers. Scary secondary there.

Dallas could be something special this year. It seems the past 3 years or so have all been geared to being as good as possible on both sides of the ball this season, and they've got some big time sack threats with Ware and Spencer and Ratliff. Newman and Jenkins can make some INTs too.

 
Instinctive said:
Return TDs don't count for the defense in my leagues...so:Arizona is a D I seem to like every year, and especially now with potenial for Whitehurst and Bradford. DRC is a guy who seems to do nothing but make plays.KC is a team I like a lot with Berry and Flowers and McDonald---all 3 are big time playmakers. Scary secondary there.Dallas could be something special this year. It seems the past 3 years or so have all been geared to being as good as possible on both sides of the ball this season, and they've got some big time sack threats with Ware and Spencer and Ratliff. Newman and Jenkins can make some INTs too.
A sleeper I define as teams seemingly out of nowhere which for some reason I can't wrap myself around thinking the Giants or even the Bears qualifies. With that being said my pick is the Oakland Raiders. Now hear me out. They were in the top half of sacks despite having an atrocious run defense a year ago. They were at the bottom of INTs. The Raiders have shored up the Run D rather dramatically with the addition of John Henderson and Rolando Mcclain. Adding Kamerion Wimbley with an good young pass rusher in Trevor Scott gives some good outside rushing options from the linebacker position. Essentially stopping the run more effectively will enable some of these talented players to make plays in the passing game.
 
Buffalo- Their D actually wasn't all bad last season. With 28 picks, 5 fumble recoveries, 2 TD's and a blocked kick, they posted solid numbers. Their problem was inconsistency, which should improve this season.

Finish is traditional scoring leagues- 10th in fantasy points
This. Obviously it's a bit of a homer pick for me, but it's also true. They have a highly underrated defensive backfield and solid linebacking group. DL is a bit shakier. If the offense can keep them off of the field a little more than last year (big if) their defense will show it.
 
Just remember something guys, a good NFL defense doesn't always mean a good fantasy defense. Fantasy defense is all about big plays, turnovers, and schedule.

 
Buffalo- Their D actually wasn't all bad last season. With 28 picks, 5 fumble recoveries, 2 TD's and a blocked kick, they posted solid numbers. Their problem was inconsistency, which should improve this season.

Finish is traditional scoring leagues- 10th in fantasy points
This. Obviously it's a bit of a homer pick for me, but it's also true. They have a highly underrated defensive backfield and solid linebacking group. DL is a bit shakier. If the offense can keep them off of the field a little more than last year (big if) their defense will show it.
I would not rely on the Buffalo offense for much beyond being a team that you must start your defense against.
 
Buffalo- Their D actually wasn't all bad last season. With 28 picks, 5 fumble recoveries, 2 TD's and a blocked kick, they posted solid numbers. Their problem was inconsistency, which should improve this season.

Finish is traditional scoring leagues- 10th in fantasy points
This. Obviously it's a bit of a homer pick for me, but it's also true. They have a highly underrated defensive backfield and solid linebacking group. DL is a bit shakier. If the offense can keep them off of the field a little more than last year (big if) their defense will show it.
Plus, they have a lot of weapons in the return game (although they lost coordinator Bobby April), so if your league counts return TDs they could be more valuable.I'm planning on grabbing Buffalo if I miss out on the 49ers, which is the only "top" defense I believe has a chance to finish well above their ADP.

 
Buffalo- Their D actually wasn't all bad last season. With 28 picks, 5 fumble recoveries, 2 TD's and a blocked kick, they posted solid numbers. Their problem was inconsistency, which should improve this season.

Finish is traditional scoring leagues- 10th in fantasy points
This. Obviously it's a bit of a homer pick for me, but it's also true. They have a highly underrated defensive backfield and solid linebacking group. DL is a bit shakier. If the offense can keep them off of the field a little more than last year (big if) their defense will show it.
Plus, they have a lot of weapons in the return game (although they lost coordinator Bobby April), so if your league counts return TDs they could be more valuable.I'm planning on grabbing Buffalo if I miss out on the 49ers, which is the only "top" defense I believe has a chance to finish well above their ADP.
:shock: Nothing wrong with that but Buffalo should be available on most league waiver wires (unless it's a :lmao: league) so you should be able to bide your time to see if they pan out and use that draft pick another player.

 
I like NE a lot as a defense you can get after quite a few are gone. They get Sanchez twice, Buff QB twice, and Henne twice. They have a lot of young talent still coming together that could start to show some consistancy this year

 
If you like to wait a bit and draft after a few defenses go and then draft a D from 5 to 8 ( that's where I usually like to draft a defense), I think the Cowboys are a solid choice.

If you look at the 2nd half of the season, basically when Wade Phillips took over the defense, they really started to clamp down. They weren't far off the pace of holding down opponents compared to the Jets from that point on. There's a lot of talk about the Cowboy offense but I honestly like watching the Dallas D better than I do the offense, it was the same for me back in the 90's when they won the SB's. The Cowboys beat the Saints last year in NO because of the D and if they're going anywhere this year, it'll be because of the defense, not Dez Bryant.......trust me.

If you're going to wait awhile longer and believe that defenses should be taken very late, then I think Washington has a shot at being a good defense this year. They have a new system in place and more talent than people think on that side of the ball. If they can get this thing worked out with Haynesworth, they'll be a tough out and the kind of fantasy defense you may be looking for late in the draft.

 
Tampa had one of the worst run D's in the league last season but drafted DT with their first 2 picks (McCoy, Price). On paper, these guys should help the DE's get better, and a better D-line as a whole should help the LB's / DB's get better....

An easy test as to whether the Bucs could be a good WW D will be after week 1 against the Cleveland Browns. If they can shut down the Browns rushing attack things might start falling into place for this D.

 

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