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SNL is Friggin' Horrible! Except when Timberlake is hosting. (1 Viewer)

Seriously...this thread has turned to crap since MoP came into it...

I guess I should look at the positive and think of how cool it was for so long without him.

 
MOP has no idea about Pete's dad and wishes he hadn't. MOP only judges the show on whether its funny or not...seems like this last episode they pulled out all the stops and MOP even said he enjoyed watched Davidson get his head chopped off and mashed thru a lawnmower eventually, I've never seen them do a scene quite like that on SNL, I thought it was more than a little clever to go and use Dead Poet's Society...I bet Pete wrote part of the scene, maybe even came up with the idea of the head chop, who knows?

Then Ham has to come along and try to prop up Pete with his little side comment about his dad dying in 911. Many of us have had to deal with personal tragedy, and I guess MOP was supposed to just ignore it and keep moving like I always do with you Ham. But on this I decided to post back. Do we ever post much at each other? No. Is it likely we would enjoy having a beer together? I doubt it.

You can try and wiggle out of it, you can have Shuke try and prop you up, he's no Capt Marvel though. 

 
Seriously...this thread has turned to crap since MoP came into it...

I guess I should look at the positive and think of how cool it was for so long without him.
Except I have a lot of posts in this thread going back to the start. It's uncanny how smart you all think you are. 

 
Sigh.  I really hate the innernets some days.  Up until 1995, MOP would just be some weirdo on the corner with an illegible sign.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
I will say this...if you didn't like a certain character or even actor and they deliver a scene with their head chopped off in it...I have to admit after I watched that scene and hit rewind a couple of times I started to lose my dislike for the guy...until Ham posted his dad died for no particular reason as if that somehow enhances the guy's entertainment value. 

In fact I don't know if it was Ham or another poster who said they were uncomfortable every time this guy brings his dad up on some other show he does. But suddenly MOP is the devil...OK

People who walk around telling people they need help...in general its mostly projecting. Should I go ahead and book some of you for an appointment to come see me this week? I'm off for the summer from teaching and will be working as a therapist thru the hospital my wife where my wife works as part of my longer program as I make the transition from teacher to Psychologist, MOP has been a busy boy. 

It's funny that you all think I need the help, it's rich.  
HFS.  You are going to be helping other people deal/cope with their emotions?  This can't be real.

 
Maybe the kid will grow into it.  It seems like every unique cast member has taken a while to grow on me.  I hated Sandler, Ferell, and Samberg at first.

 
I've always had more of a nodding appreciation and respect for Armisen's work than gut-busting laughs from watching him perform.  I found him to be a great piece of the ensemble as a cast member because he took chances both broad and narrow.  My inner comedy nerd was more interested in studying him to pick out little details in his characters than just sitting back and letting him make me laugh.  So my tastes with Armisen are unusual.  I would sit stone-faced through the unprepared musical duo Armisen and Wiig brought on WU many times, yet Armisen's political/headlines comedian who never got to the punchline destroyed me eve as the audience made cricket-chirping sounds.

So my experience watching last Saturday's episode was probably different from most.

ive seen Armisen spoof one-man shows before so his monologue did nothing for me.  

That elementary school historical actors sketch had me laughing out loud.  Kudos to Aidy Bryant for fanning the flames on that one - she got Armisen to break.  

I gonged the new girlfriend sketch and fast-forwarded.  Nice to see Sudeikis come back and get a big pop from the crowd - IMO is was unfair what a big fuss they made over Wiig's departure in-show when it was Sudeikis's last episode as well and that went unacknowledged.

Loved the Connor4Real song and am checking daily to pre-order tickets to Popstar.  My, what a beautiful swan Vanessa Bayer has become since her arrival.

I'm ashamed how many times I've seen Dead Poets Society, so I loved Farewell Mr. Bunting, even before the ceiling fan became a character.  

I hope Colin Jost is replaced at the Weekend Update desk. I've come around on Michael Che and I don't think we've seen his ceiling yet, but I'm done with Jost.  Time for a different POV, or at least a funnier delivery on that POV, in Jost's chair.

ETA: they could do an entire 90-minute episode of that high school drama club experimental theater and I would watch.

 
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Pete Davidson is a phenomenal standup comedian who frequently is the funniest part of Weekend Update.  He has a few moments in taped pieces, but he hasn't quite worked out how to fit in sketches yet.  But that's probably because he's a young standup comedian in a cast full of alumni of Upright Citizens Brigade and Second City.

 
Watched the rest of the episode. One of the best I can remember from any season.  Every skit funny.  Interspersed with creative and eclectic bits.  News top notch.  Courtney Barnett killed as musical guest.  A+.




 
Had never heard of her - one of the first musical guests I haven't fast forwarded in a long time.  Nice stripped down rock.  

 
I've always had more of a nodding appreciation and respect for Armisen's work than gut-busting laughs from watching him perform.  I found him to be a great piece of the ensemble as a cast member because he took chances both broad and narrow.  My inner comedy nerd was more interested in studying him to pick out little details in his characters than just sitting back and letting him make me laugh.  So my tastes with Armisen are unusual.  I would sit stone-faced through the unprepared musical duo Armisen and Wiig brought on WU many times, yet Armisen's political/headlines comedian who never got to the punchline destroyed me eve as the audience made cricket-chirping sounds.

So my experience watching last Saturday's episode was probably different from most.

ive seen Armisen spoof one-man shows before so his monologue did nothing for me.  

That elementary school historical actors sketch had me laughing out loud.  Kudos to Aidy Bryant for fanning the flames on that one - she got Armisen to break.  

I gonged the new girlfriend sketch and fast-forwarded.  Nice to see Sudeikis come back and get a big pop from the crowd - IMO is was unfair what a big fuss they made over Wiig's departure in-show when it was Sudeikis's last episode as well and that went unacknowledged.

Loved the Connor4Real song and am checking daily to pre-order tickets to Popstar.  My, what a beautiful swan Vanessa Bayer has become since her arrival.

I'm ashamed how many times I've seen Dead Poets Society, so I loved Farewell Mr. Bunting, even before the ceiling fan became a character.  

I hope Colin Jost is replaced at the Weekend Update desk. I've come around on Michael Che and I don't think we've seen his ceiling yet, but I'm done with Jost.  Time for a different POV, or at least a funnier delivery on that POV, in Jost's chair.

ETA: they could do an entire 90-minute episode of that high school drama club experimental theater and I would watch.




 
Armisen's continues to get better and better - love Portlandia and the Documentary Now series (Hader's great too).  

Loved the one man show opening.  It perfectly hammered the pretentiousness of them.  (with apologies to John Leguizamo)

 
I've always had more of a nodding appreciation and respect for Armisen's work than gut-busting laughs from watching him perform.  I found him to be a great piece of the ensemble as a cast member because he took chances both broad and narrow.  My inner comedy nerd was more interested in studying him to pick out little details in his characters than just sitting back and letting him make me laugh.  So my tastes with Armisen are unusual.  I would sit stone-faced through the unprepared musical duo Armisen and Wiig brought on WU many times, yet Armisen's political/headlines comedian who never got to the punchline destroyed me eve as the audience made cricket-chirping sounds.

So my experience watching last Saturday's episode was probably different from most.

ive seen Armisen spoof one-man shows before so his monologue did nothing for me.  

That elementary school historical actors sketch had me laughing out loud.  Kudos to Aidy Bryant for fanning the flames on that one - she got Armisen to break.  

I gonged the new girlfriend sketch and fast-forwarded.  Nice to see Sudeikis come back and get a big pop from the crowd - IMO is was unfair what a big fuss they made over Wiig's departure in-show when it was Sudeikis's last episode as well and that went unacknowledged.

Loved the Connor4Real song and am checking daily to pre-order tickets to Popstar.  My, what a beautiful swan Vanessa Bayer has become since her arrival.

I'm ashamed how many times I've seen Dead Poets Society, so I loved Farewell Mr. Bunting, even before the ceiling fan became a character.  

I hope Colin Jost is replaced at the Weekend Update desk. I've come around on Michael Che and I don't think we've seen his ceiling yet, but I'm done with Jost.  Time for a different POV, or at least a funnier delivery on that POV, in Jost's chair.

ETA: they could do an entire 90-minute episode of that high school drama club experimental theater and I would watch.
I rarely laugh out loud while watching  Armisen.  The juxtaposition with him and Hader in Documentary now is interesting since Hader makes me laugh just to look at.  However, I'm always entertained by Fred and enjoy all his work from SNL, Portlandia, and Documentary Now.  There's a subtlety to his humor that I can't quite explain.  

 
Except I have a lot of posts in this thread going back to the start. It's uncanny how smart you all think you are. 
I apologize then...

I guess more to the point is for some reason you've decided to make this thread all about you, of late.

Before, I hadn't noticed it...we had decent conversation...but lately, you seem to be going on rant after rant and then going off on Ham so abruptly over such a nothing post...it just stood out to me as, "Damn...MoP has really decided to much up this thread lately."

 
Who is ready to play the exciting, new gameshow that is sweeping the nation? 

That's right, it is time to play "Who is off his meds?"

Who wants to be the first contestant?

 
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Who knew Pete Davidson was a catalyst for anger and controversy, raise your hand.

 
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Fred had me hooked in the opening monologue when he goaded the girl in the audience to answer his question and when she finally did he dryly dismissed her as 'ruining it'

 
Fred had me hooked in the opening monologue when he goaded the girl in the audience to answer his question and when she finally did he dryly dismissed her as 'ruining it'
Really expertly played.

Armison is a fascination to me...the guy is obviously so well versed in his brand of comedy that it intrigues me.

But I don't find myself seeking him out or laughing out loud over his antics too often but he's definitely entertaining.

Although, his "mi scuzi" on Eurotrip is the funniest thing I've seen in forever.

 
Really expertly played.

Armison is a fascination to me...the guy is obviously so well versed in his brand of comedy that it intrigues me.

But I don't find myself seeking him out or laughing out loud over his antics too often but he's definitely entertaining.

Although, his "mi scuzi" on Eurotrip is the funniest thing I've seen in forever.
I always dug his "ay dios mio" bit too

 
The SNL Vintage episode from last weekend was the 1989 season finale hosted by Wayne Gretzky.  

I vividly remembered Gretzky on "Wayne's World" with the hockey dream sequence and the "Wakiki Hockey" Elvis and Ann-Margaret movie spoof.  I'd forgotten about Gretzky's appearance on "Fishing With The Anal Retentive Sportsman". :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Phil Hartman was a genius.  

For you comedy nerds out there... here's the list of people who got a writing credit on that episode.  It really is an amazing list:

John Bowman
A. Whitney Brown
Gregory Daniels
Tom Davis
James Downey
Al Franken
Shannon Gaughan
Jack Handey
Lorne Michaels
Mike Myers
Conan O'Brien
Bob Odenkirk
Herb Sargent
Tom Schiller
Robert Smigel
Bonnie Turner
Terry Turner
Christine Zander


No "Head Writer" was credited, though Downey got a Producer credit, Sargent got "Script Consultant" and Franken got "Creative Consultant".  

Not certain on this, but I'm assuming Conan wrote "Wakiki Hockey".  It's right in his wheelhouse, and he shows up in the sketch as the drummer for the musical number.  Franken did a Weekend Update commentary (I think this was before he was added to the cast, but he was a regular on WU for years as a writer).  
   
Also unusual for a cast member - in this case, Myers - to get a writing credit.  Every cast member writes every week but aren't considered staff writers.

Great fondness for this era of SNL.  Dana Carvey and Phil Hartman at the peak of their powers (in this episode Carvey does his Travolta impression that doesn't even try to be accurate but still killed), Dennis Miller is my favorite Weekend Update anchor ever, Jan Hooks and was a walking master class in sketch comedy, Lovitz still around, Myers breaking out.    

 
The SNL Vintage episode from last weekend was the 1989 season finale hosted by Wayne Gretzky.  

For you comedy nerds out there... here's the list of people who got a writing credit on that episode.  It really is an amazing list:
 
Spade was on Stern a couple weeks ago and mentioned all of the writers and performers from the time he was there.  Straight up murderers' row for about 8 years from like 1985-1993.

Today's cast and writers really are still kind of underperforming I think.  The Bree Larson episode was terrible.  Almost everything was a retread.  I am assuming that she was a pretty uninspiring muse, though.

Drake ep was much more interesting, though still not great.  Drake seems like a competent performer, but I find him pretty annoying.

Armisen ep was the best of the last 3 (and I like Barnett a lot).  #### Bin Laden was great, but really with Samberg, Rudolph, Sudeikis and Armisen coming back, you can just see the difference in the talent level.  I agree with a lot of the points about Armisen raised upthread.  I really didn't like him at all in the beginning, but over time I came to appreciate how well he played in the sketches.  Kind of impressive improvement, considering that he hadn't done much comedy performance before SNL, IIRC.  I think the thing is that he really inhabits the characters he is playing, and they are not always obvious observations.  Like a great comedian will notice the ideas and events that are happening around us that we all relate to, but don't always quite put our finger on (and if we do, in a less clever way), Armisen seems to notice the physicality and behavioral nuances of a lot of people that are around and then re-packages and delivers them,  (or something like that).

Still disappointed with Killam's disappearance.  He either cannot write well for himself and/or has not partnered well with any other writers.  Still think he has a lot of talent as a performer.  He has been really good in his spots on the Comedy Bang Bang podcast, each time with Paul Brittain, and I wonder if things might have gone better if Brittain had stayed at SNL.

I was also super-excited about Hammond coming back as Trump and Clinton, but overall, I feel like the performances were uninspired.  There was never really a specific angle on Trump that I could discern (perhaps largely just due to the writing) to make the character pop.  Maybe it's partially because Trump is just so ridiculous in real life, there was nowhere to go.

 
Spade was on Stern a couple weeks ago and mentioned all of the writers and performers from the time he was there.  Straight up murderers' row for about 8 years from like 1985-1993.

Today's cast and writers really are still kind of underperforming I think.  The Bree Larson episode was terrible.  Almost everything was a retread.  I am assuming that she was a pretty uninspiring muse, though.
I've greatly enjoyed the SNL Vintage series.  Pretty well curated.  And as I hinted with that earlier post, I always pause on the writing credits to see who was there at the given time.  There were a lot of folks from that 86-96 window I didn't know worked at SNL, like Greg Daniels and Michael Schur.  
 

I thought Brie Larson herself did OK in a lackluster episode.  But I did notice she got the "Goodnight Freezeout".  If the cast had a particularly difficult week with the host, they won't interact with them while the end credits roll.  They will let them stand out there alone and wave at the audience while the cast hugs each other.

 
Really expertly played.

Armison is a fascination to me...the guy is obviously so well versed in his brand of comedy that it intrigues me.

But I don't find myself seeking him out or laughing out loud over his antics too often but he's definitely entertaining.

Although, his "mi scuzi" on Eurotrip is the funniest thing I've seen in forever.
I always dug his "ay dios mio" bit too
I use both of these all the time and completely forgot that they were both Armison.

big fan of the Documentary now series... more than Portlandia (although that has some real moments too).

 
A brick-and-mortar friend saw Colin Jost perform stand-up and some audience Q&A recently.  Said of the sketches he wrote this season, his favorite by far was "Farewell Mr. Bunting".  He wrote it early in the season and fought hard for months to get it filmed and in the show.  

 
A brick-and-mortar friend saw Colin Jost perform stand-up and some audience Q&A recently.  Said of the sketches he wrote this season, his favorite by far was "Farewell Mr. Bunting".  He wrote it early in the season and fought hard for months to get it filmed and in the show.  
Jeez...I gotta stop bagging on the guy then.

Bunting was good stuff.

But maybe he should stick to writing.

 

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