So after 6 Rnds What RB Rookie has the best situation (1 Viewer)

[jacobo_moses]

Man I'm really not sure what I think about a lot of the Rbs in this Rookie Draft.

So what RB in the NFL Draft this year was drafted at the right spot and has the best situation to produce for Fantasy this year and next?

 

[jacobo_moses]

At this point I think that Ryan Williams was drafted at the right spot and can contribute almost right away as long as the Cards get a decent QB in there via Free Agency.

 

[Garts]

At this point I think that Ryan Williams was drafted at the right spot and can contribute almost right away as long as the Cards get a decent QB in there via Free Agency.

Mark Ingram easy.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

For this year, Daniel Thomas

 

[Burning Sensation]

Potential fantasy starters in 2011

1. Ingram

2. Thomas

3. Vereen

4. Williams

5. Helu

6. Powell

Everyone after that will likely need an injury

 

[moderated]

Potential fantasy starters in 20115. HeluEveryone after that will likely need an injury

Really starting to warm up to Helu. Could be day 1 starter in wash.

 

[jurb26]

If we're basing things purely on situation and removing an feelings about talent then the clear winners to me are Thomas and Helu (at least short term for Helu).

I also really like Leshoure landing in Det. He is just the kind of runner that team needs and will get plenty of touches.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Potential fantasy starters in 20115. HeluEveryone after that will likely need an injury

Really starting to warm up to Helu. Could be day 1 starter in wash.

Could be a steal in the late 1st, early 2nd of rookie drafts.

 

[eaglesfan7]

Good - Helu and Thomas

Bad - Ryan Williams and all pats backs

Unsure - ingram and LeShoure

 

[sihaokills]

Yeah I am not 100% on Ingram... Thomas is my #1 guy right now to start in fantasy

 

[moderated]

Potential fantasy starters in 20115. HeluEveryone after that will likely need an injury

Really starting to warm up to Helu. Could be day 1 starter in wash.

Could be a steal in the late 1st, early 2nd of rookie drafts.

I don't see him lasting into the late 1st in most leagues.Shanahan traded up to get him and he is a perfect fit for their scheme, after the top few rb's he's the best option and rb's historically go before non-stud type wr's.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Potential fantasy starters in 20115. HeluEveryone after that will likely need an injury

Really starting to warm up to Helu. Could be day 1 starter in wash.

Could be a steal in the late 1st, early 2nd of rookie drafts.

I don't see him lasting into the late 1st in most leagues.Shanahan traded up to get him and he is a perfect fit for their scheme, after the top few rb's he's the best option and rb's historically go before non-stud type wr's.

You might be right, but i see my non-ppr rookie drafts going something like this:1. Ingram2. Green3. Jones4. Thomas5. Williams6. Baldwin7. Leshoure8. Vereen(if he makes it to 8 in any of my leagues i am trading up to get him)9. This is the earliest i see him going, but there are at least 5 guys i can see going before him here.(Newton, Little, Young, TSmith, Cobb, Carter)

 

[eaglesfan7]

You didn't list anyone number 9.

Are there still leagues that aren't ppr?

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

For this year, Daniel Thomas

easily the best situation long term...maybe not this year but we will see

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Ingram: He has a great situation he steps into and should be a prime candidate fo at least 10-12 TDs a season.

Williams: Beanie Wells is a bust and did virtually ntohing for AZ last season. Hightower wil continue to be option 2.

Thomas: Miami drafted this guy with the intention of running him inside the Tackles. He also understands the Widcat offense which could come into play some. Miami has no one right now, this guy might get 1,000 yds ad 10 TDs just by default right now. He's big, not real fast but Miami wasn't looking for speed here.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Ingram: He has a great situation he steps into and should be a prime candidate fo at least 10-12 TDs a season.

I agree. I'm really having hard time understanding why so many people think New Orleans is anything but a great spot. They traded up into the first round precisely because they're tired of the turnstile backfield they've had recently with all the injuries and average backs.People rip on Ryan Grant around here and call him average, but they say Pierre Thomas, Chris Ivory and Reggie Bush are somehow a hurdle for Ingram. Makes no freakin' sense to me.

 

[jurb26]

Ingram: He has a great situation he steps into and should be a prime candidate fo at least 10-12 TDs a season.

I agree. I'm really having hard time understanding why so many people think New Orleans is anything but a great spot. They traded up into the first round precisely because they're tired of the turnstile backfield they've had recently with all the injuries and average backs.People rip on Ryan Grant around here and call him average, but they say Pierre Thomas, Chris Ivory and Reggie Bush are somehow a hurdle for Ingram. Makes no freakin' sense to me.

I'm an Ingram owner in a dynasty league and I like his landing spot in NO a great deal. Short term however he is going to loose touches to some other RBs. He is easily the best RB on that team though and eventually I would expect him to see 275+ touches consistently.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Ingram: He has a great situation he steps into and should be a prime candidate fo at least 10-12 TDs a season.

I agree. I'm really having hard time understanding why so many people think New Orleans is anything but a great spot. They traded up into the first round precisely because they're tired of the turnstile backfield they've had recently with all the injuries and average backs.People rip on Ryan Grant around here and call him average, but they say Pierre Thomas, Chris Ivory and Reggie Bush are somehow a hurdle for Ingram. Makes no freakin' sense to me.

I'm an Ingram owner in a dynasty league and I like his landing spot in NO a great deal. Short term however he is going to loose touches to some other RBs. He is easily the best RB on that team though and eventually I would expect him to see 275+ touches consistently.

To who? Bush might not be there. Pierre Thomas might not be there. Chris Ivory has never been able to stay healthy, even in college, and was undrafted. Do I think he'll lead the league in carries? No. I do think Payton will mix guys in, but not like he used to. He did that out of necessity, and I think he was tired of it, which is why they traded up to get Ingram. In that offense, the sky's the limit if he stays healthy.

 

[Go deep]

You didn't list anyone number 9. Are there still leagues that aren't ppr?

You didnt see the list of players I listed at 9?Yes, there are still non ppr dynasty leagues. Do you think after 10+ years they would just fold because ppr became the"cool" thing?

 

[jurb26]

Ingram: He has a great situation he steps into and should be a prime candidate fo at least 10-12 TDs a season.

I agree. I'm really having hard time understanding why so many people think New Orleans is anything but a great spot. They traded up into the first round precisely because they're tired of the turnstile backfield they've had recently with all the injuries and average backs.People rip on Ryan Grant around here and call him average, but they say Pierre Thomas, Chris Ivory and Reggie Bush are somehow a hurdle for Ingram. Makes no freakin' sense to me.

I'm an Ingram owner in a dynasty league and I like his landing spot in NO a great deal. Short term however he is going to loose touches to some other RBs. He is easily the best RB on that team though and eventually I would expect him to see 275+ touches consistently.

To who? Bush might not be there. Pierre Thomas might not be there. Chris Ivory has never been able to stay healthy, even in college, and was undrafted. Do I think he'll lead the league in carries? No. I do think Payton will mix guys in, but not like he used to. He did that out of necessity, and I think he was tired of it, which is why they traded up to get Ingram. In that offense, the sky's the limit if he stays healthy.

1st of all I highly doubt that Bush is not there. Bush alone will steal a great deal of touches, particularly in the passing game. If Bush remains all NO has to do is keep either one of Thomas or Ivory in the rotation and Ingram looses a good bit of the touches. I think 2012 will be just about all Ingram, but short term I just don't see it that way.

 

[Go deep]

Ingram: He has a great situation he steps into and should be a prime candidate fo at least 10-12 TDs a season.

I agree. I'm really having hard time understanding why so many people think New Orleans is anything but a great spot. They traded up into the first round precisely because they're tired of the turnstile backfield they've had recently with all the injuries and average backs.People rip on Ryan Grant around here and call him average, but they say Pierre Thomas, Chris Ivory and Reggie Bush are somehow a hurdle for Ingram. Makes no freakin' sense to me.

I think those people are just Thomas owners in denial. Ingram couldn't have went to a better situation. The only thing that will keep him from 300+ touches and 10 tds is his health.

 

[Go deep]

Ingram: He has a great situation he steps into and should be a prime candidate fo at least 10-12 TDs a season.

I agree. I'm really having hard time understanding why so many people think New Orleans is anything but a great spot. They traded up into the first round precisely because they're tired of the turnstile backfield they've had recently with all the injuries and average backs.People rip on Ryan Grant around here and call him average, but they say Pierre Thomas, Chris Ivory and Reggie Bush are somehow a hurdle for Ingram. Makes no freakin' sense to me.

I'm an Ingram owner in a dynasty league and I like his landing spot in NO a great deal. Short term however he is going to loose touches to some other RBs. He is easily the best RB on that team though and eventually I would expect him to see 275+ touches consistently.

To who? Bush might not be there. Pierre Thomas might not be there. Chris Ivory has never been able to stay healthy, even in college, and was undrafted. Do I think he'll lead the league in carries? No. I do think Payton will mix guys in, but not like he used to. He did that out of necessity, and I think he was tired of it, which is why they traded up to get Ingram. In that offense, the sky's the limit if he stays healthy.

1st of all I highly doubt that Bush is not there. Bush alone will steal a great deal of touches, particularly in the passing game. If Bush remains all NO has to do is keep either one of Thomas or Ivory in the rotation and Ingram looses a good bit of the touches. I think 2012 will be just about all Ingram, but short term I just don't see it that way.

What's going to happen in 2012 to change anything? Ivory and Thomas will both still be under contact.

 

[jurb26]

Ingram: He has a great situation he steps into and should be a prime candidate fo at least 10-12 TDs a season.

I agree. I'm really having hard time understanding why so many people think New Orleans is anything but a great spot. They traded up into the first round precisely because they're tired of the turnstile backfield they've had recently with all the injuries and average backs.People rip on Ryan Grant around here and call him average, but they say Pierre Thomas, Chris Ivory and Reggie Bush are somehow a hurdle for Ingram. Makes no freakin' sense to me.

I'm an Ingram owner in a dynasty league and I like his landing spot in NO a great deal. Short term however he is going to loose touches to some other RBs. He is easily the best RB on that team though and eventually I would expect him to see 275+ touches consistently.

To who? Bush might not be there. Pierre Thomas might not be there. Chris Ivory has never been able to stay healthy, even in college, and was undrafted. Do I think he'll lead the league in carries? No. I do think Payton will mix guys in, but not like he used to. He did that out of necessity, and I think he was tired of it, which is why they traded up to get Ingram. In that offense, the sky's the limit if he stays healthy.

1st of all I highly doubt that Bush is not there. Bush alone will steal a great deal of touches, particularly in the passing game. If Bush remains all NO has to do is keep either one of Thomas or Ivory in the rotation and Ingram looses a good bit of the touches. I think 2012 will be just about all Ingram, but short term I just don't see it that way.

What's going to happen in 2012 to change anything? Ivory and Thomas will both still be under contact.

Ummm, Bush will be gone. Like I said, Bush will steal a great deal of the touches.

 

[eaglesfan7]

New Orleans trading up doesn't mean much IMO. They took Reggie bush top 5 and that didn't work out either.

 

[jacobo_moses]

All good points guys. I worry that Ingram can't carry very much of a load. I mean didn't he share quite a bit of carries with another back? I think he got like 2/3rds of the carries last year or maybe a little less even. So thats what worries me about Ingram. I think Daniel Thomas is a guy owners could take and feel good about early in the top 3 picks of a rookie draft. Cecil or Sig you guys have any thoughts on this.

 

[Lash]

not enough love for LeShoure, i think the fantasy community is still stuck on that 40pt fantasy effort by Best in week 2, 2010 wheras the NFL community sees that Best is as injury prone as he proved in college and they need a workhorse guy to keep him healthy

Gruden: /paraphrase/: Bell Cow back for Detroit which relegates Best to a position he is better at... the COP

Casserly: /paraphrase/: true workhorse that will get the carries on 1st and 2nd down and allow Best to be the 3rd down pass-catching back

Another guy on Sporting News Radio whose name i forgot: /paraphrase/: LeShoure is not coming to Detroit to be the goalline/short yardage back, look for him to take over the bulk of the duties with Best getting a Reggie Bush-like play list

i traded Best away for Mathews in one league ... YAY!

traded the 1.01/Wells for him/peyton in another .. was very stoked about that when ARZ took RWill... then ... Oh No!!!! Karma getcha every time!!!

 

[Go deep]

Ingram: He has a great situation he steps into and should be a prime candidate fo at least 10-12 TDs a season.

I agree. I'm really having hard time understanding why so many people think New Orleans is anything but a great spot. They traded up into the first round precisely because they're tired of the turnstile backfield they've had recently with all the injuries and average backs.People rip on Ryan Grant around here and call him average, but they say Pierre Thomas, Chris Ivory and Reggie Bush are somehow a hurdle for Ingram. Makes no freakin' sense to me.

I'm an Ingram owner in a dynasty league and I like his landing spot in NO a great deal. Short term however he is going to loose touches to some other RBs. He is easily the best RB on that team though and eventually I would expect him to see 275+ touches consistently.

To who? Bush might not be there. Pierre Thomas might not be there. Chris Ivory has never been able to stay healthy, even in college, and was undrafted. Do I think he'll lead the league in carries? No. I do think Payton will mix guys in, but not like he used to. He did that out of necessity, and I think he was tired of it, which is why they traded up to get Ingram. In that offense, the sky's the limit if he stays healthy.

1st of all I highly doubt that Bush is not there. Bush alone will steal a great deal of touches, particularly in the passing game. If Bush remains all NO has to do is keep either one of Thomas or Ivory in the rotation and Ingram looses a good bit of the touches. I think 2012 will be just about all Ingram, but short term I just don't see it that way.

What's going to happen in 2012 to change anything? Ivory and Thomas will both still be under contact.

Ummm, Bush will be gone. Like I said, Bush will steal a great deal of the touches.

I don't see Bush affecting Ingram, he doesn't get many carries, and should see even less with Ingram in town. I just dont think the Saints traded up in the first to take a guy they were going to use as part of a four-headed monster.Imo, Bush is a goner, Thomas will be the 3rd down back and Ivory strictly a back-up. Ingram is good for 280 carries, 30 receptions, and 10+ TD's.

 

[Go deep]

All good points guys. I worry that Ingram can't carry very much of a load. I mean didn't he share quite a bit of carries with another back? I think he got like 2/3rds of the carries last year or maybe a little less even. So thats what worries me about Ingram. I think Daniel Thomas is a guy owners could take and feel good about early in the top 3 picks of a rookie draft. Cecil or Sig you guys have any thoughts on this.

Ingram did share carries, with the best back in college football.

 

[BeTheMatch]

All good points guys. I worry that Ingram can't carry very much of a load. I mean didn't he share quite a bit of carries with another back? I think he got like 2/3rds of the carries last year or maybe a little less even. So thats what worries me about Ingram. I think Daniel Thomas is a guy owners could take and feel good about early in the top 3 picks of a rookie draft. Cecil or Sig you guys have any thoughts on this.

Anyone who takes Daniel Thomas over Mark Ingram is playing the wrong game. If you're even considering it, you should try some other activity.

 

[Go deep]

not enough love for LeShoure, i think the fantasy community is still stuck on that 40pt fantasy effort by Best in week 2, 2010 wheras the NFL community sees that Best is as injury prone as he proved in college and they need a workhorse guy to keep him healthy Gruden: /paraphrase/: Bell Cow back for Detroit which relegates Best to a position he is better at... the COP Casserly: /paraphrase/: true workhorse that will get the carries on 1st and 2nd down and allow Best to be the 3rd down pass-catching backAnother guy on Sporting News Radio whose name i forgot: /paraphrase/: LeShoure is not coming to Detroit to be the goalline/short yardage back, look for him to take over the bulk of the duties with Best getting a Reggie Bush-like play listi traded Best away for Mathews in one league ... YAY!traded the 1.01/Wells for him/peyton in another .. was very stoked about that when ARZ took RWill... then ... Oh No!!!! Karma getcha every time!!!

Im hoping my leaguemates think the same. I have the 1.8 pick in two leagues, and 3 other late first picks and I'm banking on Leshoure going before I pick.

 

[Kinger]

You didn't list anyone number 9.

Since everything he quoted in the post was related to Helu, I took the "him" in #9 to mean Helu. That also looks about right, order-wise.

 

[eaglesfan7]

Bethematch,

Like last season when I took Blount before most other rookie backs and everyone said I was an idiot. Or when I took foster in the 6th round and everyone said I was an idiot. Stick with your game.

 

[eaglesfan7]

I didn't realize he was speaking about Helu. I missed it, my mistake.

 

[EBF]

I don't see how you could take anyone but Ingram as RB1.

Out of the next cluster of guys, I think I like Daniel Thomas. He's nothing special, but he has good agility for a taller back and enough bulk to carry the load. He has a very clear path to playing time.

I'm not high on Ryan Williams or Mikel Leshoure.

 

[Go deep]

I don't see how you could take anyone but Ingram as RB1. Out of the next cluster of guys, I think I like Daniel Thomas. He's nothing special, but he has good agility for a taller back and enough bulk to carry the load. He has a very clear path to playing time. I'm not high on Ryan Williams or Mikel Leshoure.

Is your issue with Williams talent or situation?

 

[EBF]

Mostly talent. I like what he did at the NFL combine and I think he has pretty good burst, but I've always been on the fence regarding his pro prospects. He wasn't a standout player last year and really didn't impress me when I saw him in person. There are some similarities with another dreadlocked 34 who plays the same position, but DeAngelo just looks thicker and stronger.

I think Williams might struggle with that aspect of the position and while his speed/quickness are good, they're not amazing. I have him as a top 6 rookie pick, but I'm not in love with his prospects. I think he's a pretty pedestrian back. However, he's in a good situation with a good pedigree and I've never been a fan of Beanie.

I feel similarly about Leshoure. Decent back. Nothing special. Good power and straight line speed. Limited agility. I think Best is the superior talent there. Hard to get excited about a 2nd round talent bound for part-time duty.

 

[az_prof]

All good points guys. I worry that Ingram can't carry very much of a load. I mean didn't he share quite a bit of carries with another back? I think he got like 2/3rds of the carries last year or maybe a little less even. So thats what worries me about Ingram. I think Daniel Thomas is a guy owners could take and feel good about early in the top 3 picks of a rookie draft. Cecil or Sig you guys have any thoughts on this.

Anyone who takes Daniel Thomas over Mark Ingram is playing the wrong game. If you're even considering it, you should try some other activity.

I don't pick high enough for this to be a choice because I won my league, but I would pick Thomas first. If Ingram were an all-pro type of talent, then I wouldn't let situation dictate. But I don't see his talent as that much better, if at all, and the situation in Miami will be much clearer.

 

[Go deep]

Mostly talent. I like what he did at the NFL combine and I think he has pretty good burst, but I've always been on the fence regarding his pro prospects. He wasn't a standout player last year and really didn't impress me when I saw him in person. There are some similarities with another dreadlocked 34 who plays the same position, but DeAngelo just looks thicker and stronger. I think Williams might struggle with that aspect of the position and while his speed/quickness are good, they're not amazing. I have him as a top 6 rookie pick, but I'm not in love with his prospects. I think he's a pretty pedestrian back. However, he's in a good situation with a good pedigree and I've never been a fan of Beanie. I feel similarly about Leshoure. Decent back. Nothing special. Good power and straight line speed. Limited agility. I think Best is the superior talent there. Hard to get excited about a 2nd round talent bound for part-time duty.

Sounds dead on to me, I do prefer williams talent to Leshoure, but Im not overly excited about him either.

 

[Dragon1952]

First 6 picks in a rookie draft that started today, PPR.

1.1 Ingram, Mark NOS RB

1.2 Green A.J. CIN WR

1.3 Jones, Julio ATL WR

1.4 Williams, Ryan ARI RB

1.5 Thomas, Daniel MIA RB

1.6 Leshoure, Mikel DET RB

 

[kurtrudder]

I think Helu will be this year's Ben Tate in this context......that he will fly up rookie draft boards post the NFL draft based on situation alone. The comparison to Tate has nothing to do with their respective talent levels.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Ingram has best situation along with Thomas. Vereen's is underrated. Carter's has jackpot potential. Rodgers is potentially sweet long term, as is Hunter's. Helu's is great, but don't like the player, same with Green. Powell's could be a lot better than people think. Murray, not as good.

 

[Abraham]

Ah, the annual thread where we let situation cloud our judgement regarding talent. ANtonio Pittman, anyone?

 

[kurtrudder]

Ah, the annual thread where we let situation cloud our judgement regarding talent. ANtonio Pittman, anyone?

Love it...let the hype trains crash and burn

 

[comfortably numb]

Ingram: He has a great situation he steps into and should be a prime candidate fo at least 10-12 TDs a season.

I agree. I'm really having hard time understanding why so many people think New Orleans is anything but a great spot. They traded up into the first round precisely because they're tired of the turnstile backfield they've had recently with all the injuries and average backs.People rip on Ryan Grant around here and call him average, but they say Pierre Thomas, Chris Ivory and Reggie Bush are somehow a hurdle for Ingram. Makes no freakin' sense to me.

I'm an Ingram owner in a dynasty league and I like his landing spot in NO a great deal. Short term however he is going to loose touches to some other RBs. He is easily the best RB on that team though and eventually I would expect him to see 275+ touches consistently.

To who? Bush might not be there. Pierre Thomas might not be there. Chris Ivory has never been able to stay healthy, even in college, and was undrafted. Do I think he'll lead the league in carries? No. I do think Payton will mix guys in, but not like he used to. He did that out of necessity, and I think he was tired of it, which is why they traded up to get Ingram. In that offense, the sky's the limit if he stays healthy.

1st of all I highly doubt that Bush is not there. Bush alone will steal a great deal of touches, particularly in the passing game. If Bush remains all NO has to do is keep either one of Thomas or Ivory in the rotation and Ingram looses a good bit of the touches. I think 2012 will be just about all Ingram, but short term I just don't see it that way.

So you think NO will just pay him his 11.8M, or will they restructure?

 

[faux_bear]

what's a guy with the 1.04 pick to do?

I'm in a salary cap league in which each pick has a certain salary amount assigned to it and I'm getting the feeling from the boards that 1.04 is not worth what it might be worth most other years. Am I wrong?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

New Orleans trading up doesn't mean much IMO. They took Reggie bush top 5 and that didn't work out either.

They didn't draft him at number 2 overall with the thought of using him as a glorified slot WR though, his game just didn't translate like they and most others thought it would.I own Thomas and Ivory and personally I see Ingram as the feature back in NO this year and every year for the next 5-7 years. He's just the more talented back and they traded back into the first for a reason. I hope I can get something of value from the new Ingram owner.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Ingram: He has a great situation he steps into and should be a prime candidate fo at least 10-12 TDs a season.

I agree. I'm really having hard time understanding why so many people think New Orleans is anything but a great spot. They traded up into the first round precisely because they're tired of the turnstile backfield they've had recently with all the injuries and average backs.People rip on Ryan Grant around here and call him average, but they say Pierre Thomas, Chris Ivory and Reggie Bush are somehow a hurdle for Ingram. Makes no freakin' sense to me.

I think those people are just Thomas owners in denial. Ingram couldn't have went to a better situation. The only thing that will keep him from 300+ touches and 10 tds is his health.

I doubt Ingram sees 300 touches. Why run your rookie more than he needs to when you have PT and possibly Bush? PT works well in that offense. He will get his touches. I'm sure Ingram will have more by the end of the year, but this line of thinking doesn't make sense to me.

 

[foxco]

Ingram: He has a great situation he steps into and should be a prime candidate fo at least 10-12 TDs a season.

I agree. I'm really having hard time understanding why so many people think New Orleans is anything but a great spot. They traded up into the first round precisely because they're tired of the turnstile backfield they've had recently with all the injuries and average backs.People rip on Ryan Grant around here and call him average, but they say Pierre Thomas, Chris Ivory and Reggie Bush are somehow a hurdle for Ingram. Makes no freakin' sense to me.

I'm an Ingram owner in a dynasty league and I like his landing spot in NO a great deal. Short term however he is going to loose touches to some other RBs. He is easily the best RB on that team though and eventually I would expect him to see 275+ touches consistently.

To who? Bush might not be there. Pierre Thomas might not be there. Chris Ivory has never been able to stay healthy, even in college, and was undrafted. Do I think he'll lead the league in carries? No. I do think Payton will mix guys in, but not like he used to. He did that out of necessity, and I think he was tired of it, which is why they traded up to get Ingram. In that offense, the sky's the limit if he stays healthy.

1st of all I highly doubt that Bush is not there. Bush alone will steal a great deal of touches, particularly in the passing game. If Bush remains all NO has to do is keep either one of Thomas or Ivory in the rotation and Ingram looses a good bit of the touches. I think 2012 will be just about all Ingram, but short term I just don't see it that way.

So you think NO will just pay him his 11.8M, or will they restructure?

Bush has already said he's willing to restructure and basically take a pay cut. How much he's willing to cut is the question, but he's not getting anywhere near 11 mill from anyone else.

 

[coolnerd]

Ah, the annual thread where we let situation cloud our judgement regarding talent. ANtonio Pittman, anyone?

Love it...let the hype trains crash and burn

Kinda agree about the "hype trains," but before the draft happened, there was not a large gap in talent between much of both the RB and WR class. For me asking who has the best situation when players are bunched is not just logical but important in separating the guys.

 

[kurtrudder]

Ah, the annual thread where we let situation cloud our judgement regarding talent. ANtonio Pittman, anyone?

Love it...let the hype trains crash and burn

Kinda agree about the "hype trains," but before the draft happened, there was not a large gap in talent between much of both the RB and WR class. For me asking who has the best situation when players are bunched is not just logical but important in separating the guys.

I don't see a problem with situation being a consideration, the issue that happens all too often is that people overthink it and it clouds their judgement.