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So hungover this morning I accidently wore two different shoes (1 Viewer)

Maybe the person doing the hiring is female. And will be impressed. 

Or it will be a guy that's intrigued. (NTTAWWT)

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
I can't smoke anymore. One day, when I was around your age, it just turned on me. Every time I smoke, my heart starts beating too fast, I get sweaty and short of breath, feel (unpleasantly) light-headed, etc. It sucks, I loved getting stoned. 
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Should try the oil pens, just THC and it's a lot more mild so you have more control. 

 
RokNRole said:
Then there are a lot of bars breaking the law.
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I'm just saying, hiring someone based on their picture might as well be the same as "not hiring me because I'm black".

Obviously it's going to be a tough thing to prove but unless you're in modeling job no way are they allowed to do this.

 
As an unknown...you're not going to have a chance in acting outside of LA and NY in the states...probably in the world. That's just a fact. And then have a good amount of luck on your side once you're there.

 
I know I'm a nutter. 

I really appreciate those if you that have taken the time to try to try to help me.

As someone from a very dark background it's often difficult to communicate appreciation. But I have been on this MB for over 10 years and I always come back for the few good people on here because they are usually Uber good. Often I curse at myself for not being that empathetic to strangers but I always try to learn from it.

Sometimes I'm brought to tears by how nice some of you are on here.

 
Anyone know if there's anything that can be done about message board identity theft? I'll never be the same around here thanks to this guy.

 
Eminence said:
I'm just saying, hiring someone based on their picture might as well be the same as "not hiring me because I'm black".

Obviously it's going to be a tough thing to prove but unless you're in modeling job no way are they allowed to do this.
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Uh, no. Ugly people aren't a class that is protected from discrimination.  Some hideous beast (or a dude) can't sue Hooters because they wont hire her/him as a server.

 
RokNRole said:
How does one go about becoming an actor? I know it probably sounds ridiculous to think about it at 33 but I look substantially younger than I am and I'm really good at it. It's been a life long dream I've just often been too scared or too busy with other things to pursue it.

Can one just go to a talent agency and give them a percentage once they get you gigs? Even just starting as an extra I hear they make $100 a day and get free food. I hear there is acting oppurtunity in almost every big city and one doesn't necessarily have to move to Cali to get the ball rolling. 

Anyone with knowledge of the industry?
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Its not acting but you could try live-streaming and get started in that TODAY on twitch.tv or youtube.  There are a lot of people doing that right now making thousands per month.

 
RnR - i currently work with an actor, and have had a number of conversations with him about trying to "make it". if you're going to try to be a professional actor, and have that be a sole source of income, it's a tough road. lots of things have to bounce exactly right for you and even then it's extremely challenging. not trying to be a downer about it, just some pragmatism. from our prior conversations, i can relate this:

- you will need to have professional "head shots" taken...it's damn near mandatory for any audition. not sure of exact costs, but i would guess $250 at the low end and $500 at the top for modeling/acting

- you will need an agent. this is a huge factor in what kind of jobs you will be able to read for, and kind of your lifeline in terms of setting up auditions. if you have a garbage agent, you'll end up with garbage opportunities. conversely, a great agent will get you much better opportunities, and you'll have to pay for that service. (i have zero idea what agents charge.)

- you'll need to be available at any time to read for a part, and that may involve travel. the guy i work with consistently drives 90 minutes (one way) to read for different roles. sometimes he's in the room with the director or casting agent for literally 5 minutes, and then he heads back home with the promise of, "We'll call you when we've made a decision." more often than not, that decision is: "Thanks, but we went with someone else."

now, i should mention a few things about the guy i work with: he's in his mid/late 50s; has been acting professionally for 35+ years (i.e. has his SAG card); as a medium build physically (5'8, 150lbs); not a troll, but also not George Clooney in the looks department (so Offdee 6.5?...i dunno); does a number of accents; does not sing; and generally tries to find work on stage/theater and tv commercials.

in the last 7 years we've been working together i can remember some of his more memorable roles:  he did had a major role in Santa Cruz theater company production with four shows a week (Friday night, Sat. night, and Sat/Sun matinees). that role was compensated by salary (three month run), and his room and board were paid for since he lives 3+ hours away. rehearsals were daily IIRC. he also had a voice-over role for an animated short (Scottish accent)...not sure if that was ever released. and he did an industrial film where he played an attorney in a law firm that was sexually harassing the female employees. i think he made a tiny bit of money for that. granted, he's been trying to do this in NorCal, which is not the hotbed for acting jobs compared to LA/NYC. the competition is less, but so are the opportunities. 

my advice: if acting is a dream of yours, take the advice of others upthread and look into doing some kind of local, community theater stuff to get your foot in the door. might be working on the production crew, or interning in some way. do any job they offer, smile and say "thank you" even if it's not what you want to do or think the work is beneath you. from everything i can tell this industry, like many others, requires you to "pay your dues" before moving up the ladder. the positive part of this direction, is that A) you'll need to be working a part-time gig to make ends meet so getting on as a bartender/server is perfect, B) you'll meet a lot of different people who may be able to give you suggestions or direction in how to make this work...networking is not a bad thing. 

and as for resumes w/ pictures: it's pretty much SOP for almost any position. not saying it's right or fair, just the way things are.

GL  

 
Quint said:
RnR - i currently work with an actor, and have had a number of conversations with him about trying to "make it". if you're going to try to be a professional actor, and have that be a sole source of income, it's a tough road. lots of things have to bounce exactly right for you and even then it's extremely challenging. not trying to be a downer about it, just some pragmatism. from our prior conversations, i can relate this:

- you will need to have professional "head shots" taken...it's damn near mandatory for any audition. not sure of exact costs, but i would guess $250 at the low end and $500 at the top for modeling/acting

- you will need an agent. this is a huge factor in what kind of jobs you will be able to read for, and kind of your lifeline in terms of setting up auditions. if you have a garbage agent, you'll end up with garbage opportunities. conversely, a great agent will get you much better opportunities, and you'll have to pay for that service. (i have zero idea what agents charge.)

- you'll need to be available at any time to read for a part, and that may involve travel. the guy i work with consistently drives 90 minutes (one way) to read for different roles. sometimes he's in the room with the director or casting agent for literally 5 minutes, and then he heads back home with the promise of, "We'll call you when we've made a decision." more often than not, that decision is: "Thanks, but we went with someone else."

now, i should mention a few things about the guy i work with: he's in his mid/late 50s; has been acting professionally for 35+ years (i.e. has his SAG card); as a medium build physically (5'8, 150lbs); not a troll, but also not George Clooney in the looks department (so Offdee 6.5?...i dunno); does a number of accents; does not sing; and generally tries to find work on stage/theater and tv commercials.

in the last 7 years we've been working together i can remember some of his more memorable roles:  he did had a major role in Santa Cruz theater company production with four shows a week (Friday night, Sat. night, and Sat/Sun matinees). that role was compensated by salary (three month run), and his room and board were paid for since he lives 3+ hours away. rehearsals were daily IIRC. he also had a voice-over role for an animated short (Scottish accent)...not sure if that was ever released. and he did an industrial film where he played an attorney in a law firm that was sexually harassing the female employees. i think he made a tiny bit of money for that. granted, he's been trying to do this in NorCal, which is not the hotbed for acting jobs compared to LA/NYC. the competition is less, but so are the opportunities. 

my advice: if acting is a dream of yours, take the advice of others upthread and look into doing some kind of local, community theater stuff to get your foot in the door. might be working on the production crew, or interning in some way. do any job they offer, smile and say "thank you" even if it's not what you want to do or think the work is beneath you. from everything i can tell this industry, like many others, requires you to "pay your dues" before moving up the ladder. the positive part of this direction, is that A) you'll need to be working a part-time gig to make ends meet so getting on as a bartender/server is perfect, B) you'll meet a lot of different people who may be able to give you suggestions or direction in how to make this work...networking is not a bad thing. 

and as for resumes w/ pictures: it's pretty much SOP for almost any position. not saying it's right or fair, just the way things are.

GL  
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Does your friend do other work for a living? No way he could live off of that?

 
Capella said:
Does your friend do other work for a living? No way he could live off of that?
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well, he's working part-time in a tasting room in Sonoma, so there's that. 

it also helps that his wife is a psychologist.....i suspect she does very well. 

 
I cant' wait for his next whim.  "I trimmed my toenails this morning, maybe I should be a surgeon.  It can't be that hard to get one of those jobs, right?"

 
Here's something crazy to think about, have you ever considered WRITING for a living? The internet offers you many different venues to make money off this and you spend half your time on the internet trying to entertain people anyway.

I think a writing gig at a place like http://www.cracked.com would be up your ally.

 
bagger said:
I'd just like to thank evilgrin for helping to control this jackwad's annoying behavior.

:mellow:
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If you believe that was the ultimate goal, you're not really paying attention. 

Seems like there a few of you that find him annoying. Yet, here you are reading/posting in his thread. Why not just avoid it? 

 
 he was touting about how he'll need to ask for a raise in 6 months, how to beat a drug test and lasted 6 DAYS!!!!

:lmao:

Eta: that will be My last post, gl.

 
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Evilgrin 72 said:
If you believe that was the ultimate goal, you're not really paying attention. 

Seems like there a few of you that find him annoying. Yet, here you are reading/posting in his thread. Why not just avoid it? 
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Because I clearly prefer not to.

 
So the suicide thing was clearly not real, much like most of what he's posted in the FFA throughout the multiple alias accounts he's had. I'm not sure how anyone can't think he's not :fishing:   all the time.

 
Just got hired on the spot at a hot new steakhouse in downtown Dallas. They also said they will let me learn the ropes behind the bar as well.

 
Eminence said:
Here's something crazy to think about, have you ever considered WRITING for a living? The internet offers you many different venues to make money off this and you spend half your time on the internet trying to entertain people anyway.

I think a writing gig at a place like http://www.cracked.com would be up your ally.
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I love cracked. Read the site every day. Yeah that would be fun but it's not something I have any experience with. Some of the stuff I write on here gets a chuckle or two but it looks like most of my stuff bombs.

 
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