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So hungover this morning I accidently wore two different shoes (2 Viewers)

squistion said:
I think you are being overly harsh on yourself.
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Not when I think of the people I speak to, multiply that by the people they speak to and it grows from there. There are people all around saying great things for nothing, sacrificing a few seconds to a few minutes of their time and all I can respond with is BS. This is what trolls do. 

Im usually speaking my mind but I'm adding nothing and that isn't right. That's wrong.

 
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RokNRole said:
Not when I think of the people I speak to, multiply that by the people they speak to and it grows from there. There are people all around saying great things for nothing, sacrificing a few seconds to a few minutes of their time and all I can respond with is BS. This is what trolls do. 

Im usually speaking my kind but I'm adding nothing and that isn't right. That's wrong.
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If you are speaking your mind and responding honestly, I would say that is not wrong and that you are making an effort to do the best you can - which is all anyone can do...

 
RokNRole said:
Sometimes all you have to look forward to is to be enshrined as a "cautionary tale". It's not much but it's something.

Im obviously heavily wasted .....but.

My writing stinks. I can still draw reasonably well. I drew E.G.s Ace Frehley story I just haven't completed and released it. I may have to learn to ink with brushes and fountain pens for economic purposes but in that time I can draw several strips in different styles and the FFA could produce a collection of real drunk/partying stories.

it can be called "cautionary tales"

I bet it would sell a lot.
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I need to see this!

 
RokNRole said:
We really should have assisted suicide available to the mentally ill. The thinking is " they are mentally ill and can't consent to it".

BS. 15, 20,25, 30+ years of pain you can consent as well as anyone. Forcing people to inject drugs and/or drink to die. Causing more pain and medical bills.
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No one is forcing. It's your freewill.

RokNRole said:
How does this help evolution and progress?

Seems like it doesn't. Forcing the polluted to live and infect the world around them. Once again forcing them to feel worse because they leave a wake of misery and pain. This doesn't seem humane to me.
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The flaw with this reasoning is that it assumes that there is no hope and that it's impossible for anyone in your state to better themselves. That 100% of clinically depressed people would simply continue to spiral. If assisted suicide were allowed then there would be at least one person choosing this option that otherwise would have eventually turned the corner and lead a happy life.

 
RokNRole said:
My writing stinks. I can still draw reasonably well. I drew E.G.s Ace Frehley story I just haven't completed and released it. I may have to learn to ink with brushes and fountain pens for economic purposes but in that time I can draw several strips in different styles and the FFA could produce a collection of real drunk/partying stories.
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Big Ace Frehley fan. I would love to see this! I've seen him many times both with and without Kiss. One of the best was in a tiny hole in the wall bar in N Ky. and the cost was peanuts. He had a young crack band and they just tore the place apart.

Never heard @Evilgrin 72's Ace story but I'm betting it's entertaining.

 
RokNRole said:
We really should have assisted suicide available to the mentally ill. The thinking is " they are mentally ill and can't consent to it".

BS. 15, 20,25, 30+ years of pain you can consent as well as anyone. Forcing people to inject drugs and/or drink to die. Causing more pain and medical bills.

How does this help evolution and progress?

Seems like it doesn't. Forcing the polluted to live and infect the world around them. Once again forcing them to feel worse because they leave a wake of misery and pain. This doesn't seem humane to me.
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Your first sentence suggests that you fail to grasp any sense of rationality. If somebody is truly mentally ill, we cannot possibly make assisted suicide available bc a mentally ill person cannot lawfully consent to his or her own death. So, no. Also you're line of thinking here is, yet again, to simply whine and displace blame to society.

You're not extraordinarily smart. You're certainly not Good Will Hunting or even particularly unique and nothing you've ever posted backs up your claim that you have some statistically improbable high IQ. You're not a tragic hero.  So 1) stop claiming you're some super genius; and 2) stop blaming others including the government, society, professionals. 

But, like everybody, you undoubtedly have some great qualities. You have some to offer (that isn't just trolling message boards). Focus on that. And, get help. 

 
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Zow said:
Your first sentence suggests that you fail to grasp any sense of rationality. If somebody is truly mentally ill, we cannot possibly make assisted suicide available bc a mentally ill person cannot lawfully consent to his or her own death. So, no. Also you're line of thinking here is, yet again, to simply whine and displace blame to society.

You're not extraordinarily smart. You're certainly not Good Will Hunting or even particularly unique and nothing you've ever posted backs up your claim that you have some statistically improbable high IQ. You're not a tragic hero.  So 1) stop claiming you're some super genius; and 2) stop blaming others including the government, society, professionals. 

But, like everybody, you undoubtedly have some great qualities. You have some to offer (that isn't just trolling message boards). Focus on that. And, get help. 
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I see that now.

I had potential when I was younger. I have probably done considerable brain damage with chemicals on top of trauma ( There is significant research that shows physical and mental trauma causes brain damage). Nearly 1.5 decades of heavy drinking and hard drugs. I feel dumb as a brick.

 
RokNRole said:
I see that now.

I had potential when I was younger. I have probably done considerable brain damage with chemicals on top of trauma ( There is significant research that shows physical and mental trauma causes brain damage). Nearly 1.5 decades of heavy drinking and hard drugs. I feel dumb as a brick.
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You may not see it yet but you realizing that you are a mere mortal is actually a good thing. Thousands upon thousands of people have been in your boat, many in way worse situations, and have pulled themselves out of it. Some have even tried to help you in this thread if you would only take the time to really listen. Not just read the words, follow through with the advice. Have you even made one phone call for help from all the numerous phone numbers and websites given to you in this thread?

Here's another suggestion that I'm sure has been made before: How about going to church? I don't think you're religious, I'm agnostic myself, but what harm could it be to just sit in the back of a church among people and just listen to someone speak? It'll get you out of the house at the very least. And you can even sing too!

 
jamny said:
You may not see it yet but you realizing that you are a mere mortal is actually a good thing. Thousands upon thousands of people have been in your boat, many in way worse situations, and have pulled themselves out of it. Some have even tried to help you in this thread if you would only take the time to really listen. Not just read the words, follow through with the advice. Have you even made one phone call for help from all the numerous phone numbers and websites given to you in this thread?

Here's another suggestion that I'm sure has been made before: How about going to church? I don't think you're religious, I'm agnostic myself, but what harm could it be to just sit in the back of a church among people and just listen to someone speak? It'll get you out of the house at the very least. And you can even sing too!
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Great idea on the church. It was suggested to me when I revealed I was going to do cancer all by myself with no help to go to a church if I felt the need for help, and not just spiritual. Many churches have programs that aren't listed online or people who would love to help. If you are new, people will see that and come up to welcome you. You can tell them about yourself, your woes, and you'd get a ton of support and probably some good contacts/friends there if not help if they have programs themselves.

 
CurlyNight said:
Great idea on the church. It was suggested to me when I revealed I was going to do cancer all by myself with no help to go to a church if I felt the need for help, and not just spiritual. Many churches have programs that aren't listed online or people who would love to help. If you are new, people will see that and come up to welcome you. You can tell them about yourself, your woes, and you'd get a ton of support and probably some good contacts/friends there if not help if they have programs themselves.
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More importantly though is that he doesn't have to have any interaction if he doesn't want it.

 
She changed her mind. She's moving in with me in a month or two.

the plan is

1. Stop drinking, drugs, smoking.

2. Get healthy

3. Get divorced.

4.Get a vasectomy.

5. Get dogs

6. Get in to art again.

7. Live

 
DocHolliday said:
 I thought you wanted kids?   Why get snipped?  Not that you shouldn't since you are a mess.  No offense.  
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I do but I'm far too past my prime and the future is far too uncertain to have children.  Family's are for young millionaires not broken down old men.

 
RokNRole said:
I do but I'm far too past my prime and the future is far too uncertain to have children.  Family's are for young millionaires not broken down old men.
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I was a few years older than you when I got married and had my kid.  Age is not your problem.  Please get help. 

 
RokNRole said:
She changed her mind. She's moving in with me in a month or two.

the plan is

1. Stop drinking, drugs, smoking.

2. Get healthy

3. Get divorced.

4.Get a vasectomy.

5. Get dogs

6. Get in to art again.

7. Live
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Seems like a solid plan (if it lasts) but I wouldn't get a vasectomy if I were you.  Not long ago, in this very thread, you were talking about how much you wanted to be a father.  I wouldn't do anything permanent.  Just get some rubbers.

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
Seems like a solid plan (if it lasts) but I wouldn't get a vasectomy if I were you.  Not long ago, in this very thread, you were talking about how much you wanted to be a father.  I wouldn't do anything permanent.  Just get some rubbers.
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She's 12 years older than me. Kids are out of the realm of possibility.

 
jamny said:
You may not see it yet but you realizing that you are a mere mortal is actually a good thing. Thousands upon thousands of people have been in your boat, many in way worse situations, and have pulled themselves out of it. Some have even tried to help you in this thread if you would only take the time to really listen. Not just read the words, follow through with the advice. Have you even made one phone call for help from all the numerous phone numbers and websites given to you in this thread?

Here's another suggestion that I'm sure has been made before: How about going to church? I don't think you're religious, I'm agnostic myself, but what harm could it be to just sit in the back of a church among people and just listen to someone speak? It'll get you out of the house at the very least. And you can even sing too!
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I'm aware I'm mortal. I'm not that delusional.

I didn't think I would get so old so fast. I want to reverse the aging process with vegetables and exercise.

 
CurlyNight said:
Great idea on the church. It was suggested to me when I revealed I was going to do cancer all by myself with no help to go to a church if I felt the need for help, and not just spiritual. Many churches have programs that aren't listed online or people who would love to help. If you are new, people will see that and come up to welcome you. You can tell them about yourself, your woes, and you'd get a ton of support and probably some good contacts/friends there if not help if they have programs themselves.
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I'm not religious. 

Cant reconcile that just to meet nice people. 

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
Seems like a solid plan (if it lasts) but I wouldn't get a vasectomy if I were you.  Not long ago, in this very thread, you were talking about how much you wanted to be a father.  I wouldn't do anything permanent.  Just get some rubbers.
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I like children a lot, I'm pretty good with them coming from a large and mostly Italian family that has a lot of kids, I would love children and I would also love the means to raise them. I don't have that so I need to find a way to be content without breeding for three main reasons

1. Meeting a young woman of breeding age that I can trust. I don't want my children to come from a broken home. It would take 2-3 years for that. Not possible in my condition.

2. After 35 years of age for a mother the chances of autism and other numerous birth defects goes up. Not to mention my genetic defects ( passing on Tourette syndrome as well as alcohol/drug addiction). I would feel terrible if I messed up a child. It would Put me over the edge.

3. She's a doll and she loves me. You can interchange all 3 of these any given night but this is how it is.

RNR ends in this body.

 
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RokNRole said:
She changed her mind. She's moving in with me in a month or two.

the plan is

1. Stop drinking, drugs, smoking.

2. Get healthy

3. Get divorced.

4.Get a vasectomy.

5. Get dogs

6. Get in to art again.

7. Live
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You thought love was only true in fairy tales
Meant for someone else but not for you
Love was out to get you
That's the way it seemed
Disappointment haunted all your dreams

Then you saw her face, now you're a believer
Not a trace, of doubt in your mind
 You're in love, and you're a believer
You couldn't leave her if you tried

You thought love was more or less a giving thing
The more you gave the less you got oh yeah
What's the use in tryin'
All you get is pain
When you wanted sunshine you got rain

Then you saw her face, now you're a believer
Not a trace, of doubt in your mind
You're in love, You're a believer
You couldn't leave her if you tried

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mYBSayCsH0

 
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RokNRole said:
Better safe than sorry.
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I'm really happy for you, I just don't know that an irrevocable (or at least difficult to rescind) choice is the wise move, especially for you. Your whims/circumstances change with every shift in wind direction. Just have her take a pill for a few years and/or stock up on Trojans. Don't worry, once you get married, you won't need many.

 
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