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Somethings rotten in denmark Prince Amukamara falling fast? (1 Viewer)

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Really? Nothing? No reason why guy who was talked about as a top 5-13 lock suddenly is being listed by two big "NFL insiders as 20th and 25th picks instead.

:wtf? Where are all your elite sources now? ;)

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I have no clue on why this is. All I can find is the Rotoworld blurb about Gosselin's mock:

(Rotoworld) Renowned mock drafter Rick Gosselin's biggest faller in his final 2011 mock is Nebraska CB Prince Amukamara, who goes 25th to Seattle.Analysis: We've heard time and time again that there's "no way" Detroit would pass on Amukamara at No. 13, but Gosselin insists otherwise. The Lions' best option, indeed, is to draft the best offensive lineman available with aging left tackle Jeff Backus entering his contract year and right tackle Gosder Cherilus coming off microfracture surgery. As to Amukamara, teams may have concerns about his ball skills. He had zero picks in 2010.
 
No surprise to me I have not been an avid endorser of amukamara for awhile. The mocks that have him going 7 to niners make me wince.

 
http://www.bigblueinteractive.com/the-draft/2011-nfl-draft-review-and-rookie-free-agent-signings/

Prince claims teams didn't throw at him much this past season:

Q: Can you explain five interceptions as a junior and none as a senior?

A: Just not a lot of opportunities.

Q: Did teams tend not to throw to your side?

A: Yes, that was the case.

Giants Staffer doesn't make any comment that concurs with Prince's statement, but his comments are very positive. He did lose Suh caving in offensive lines, that has to account for some production loss.

MEDIA Q&A WITH DIRECTOR OF COLLEGE SCOUTING MARC ROSS: (Video)

Q: Were you surprised to see Prince there?

A: It was a shock. It was a shock. It was a shock. I know we come in and say, “We picked the best player, and we were surprised.” This one truly was a shock. Because you go through scenarios leading up to the draft where you kind of have realistic scenarios, somewhat unrealistic scenarios, of what could happen. And this one was just completely out of left field. We never thought this kid would have been still on the board at 19.

Q: Why do you think he fell?

A: I think that run on quarterbacks really pushed some good players down. And we had talked about that leading up to it – just that teams are going to start going after these quarterbacks. And that is what was happening. The kid is a great kid. He is big; he is fast. He has never been in any trouble, which for a corner is rare. So it was really surprising.

Q: At what point did you start thinking that you really had a chance to get him?

A: We kind of started really getting in depth talking about guys about 7 or 8 picks ahead of time. And he was still up there – we just kind of go over again. But you just assume – I just assumed that somebody would have taken him. With each pick you kind of put him in the back of your mind. You are talking about him but at the same time, “Well, he is going to get picked.” We kept getting closer and closer and he was there.

Q: Did you field calls when it was your pick?

A: They don’t tell you the player when they call about trades. They never say, “Hey, we are trying to get this guy, do you want to trade.” They just come with, “We will trade you this for that.” So we don’t know who they want.

Q: But you did get calls?

A: Yes.

Q: Was that the delay, or was there discussion regarding Prince?

A: No, it was pretty much a consensus. But you don’t want to just throw the name in right away. You want to just kind of wait and let everything settle down and make sure that everybody is still on the same page.

Q: Who would you compare him to?

A: Nobody. Usually when I watch players I write in my notes that he is similar to this guy. There is nobody that jumps out at me that I could really compare him to strongly. He is kind of unique in that a guy with this size – and he is fast, fast – he is strong and plays with great instinct. And he has tossed the guys in the gunner on special teams clean off the field. And he is kind of unique.

Q: You have three high picks back there now. Do you feel you can’t have enough cornerbacks?

A: Pass rushers and corners – you can never have enough. Because you always have to go with the best player – if you take the best player, they will play. You can’t force things. When you try to force things and jump over guys, that is when you get burned. When you pick the best player, they will find a way on the field. And it just adds depth. It brings competitiveness to the group. You can never have enough.

Q: Any concerns with the dip from his junior year to his senior year?

A: Of course we talked about that. The guy had six picks as a junior. He didn’t have any this year. So you are thinking, “Why, what is going on?” So that is something that we talked about. He was in position a lot – he just didn’t finish on the ball as much this year as he did in the past. But we don’t see that as being a concern. Because the guy has natural hands and he can play the ball. So we don’t think that is a problem.

Q: Isn’t that a low career interception number for a guy who started that many games?

A: We don’t think so. You have to look at the circumstances. Stats – you can make them any way you want to make them. And stats wise…and you have to watch the tape and see what the circumstances are. Some guys will have four picks and they are just standing there and it falls into their laps. So you have to watch and evaluate how they come about.

Q: Do you think people thought his arms weren’t long enough?

A: Yeah, he is not very – the guy has 30 ½ arms or something like that. They may have knocked him on that. But we didn’t. I don’t know – I don’t know why other teams passed on him. He just might not have been a fit.

Q: Do you think he can start?

A: Yeah, oh yeah. He has the mindset for it. And that is the number one thing that college players…but don’t do it. This guy has done it. And he has the mindset to do it.

Q: RE: Comparison to Darrelle Revis.

A: (Revis) is one of the best corners in the League. It is unfair to do that to him. But if he turns out to be half as good as that guy, that would be great.

Q: What was his 40 time?

A: 4.4′s.

Sport Science: Prince Amukamara

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yPxwUvc2dc

 
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Prince claims teams didn't throw at him much this past season:

Q: Can you explain five interceptions as a junior and none as a senior?

A: Just not a lot of opportunities.

Q: Did teams tend not to throw to your side?

A: Yes, that was the case.


Q: Well can you explain the OSU game?



A: I got lit up like the 4th of July



Q: So people DID throw to your side?



A: In that game they did - yes - nearly every play

 


Prince claims teams didn't throw at him much this past season:

Q: Can you explain five interceptions as a junior and none as a senior?

A: Just not a lot of opportunities.

Q: Did teams tend not to throw to your side?

A: Yes, that was the case.


Q: Well can you explain the OSU game?



A: I got lit up like the 4th of July



Q: So people DID throw to your side?



A: In that game they did - yes - nearly every play
Just because you make it look like the real interview doesn't make it true.
 
Rumor that I had heard around the draft was that African born players are getting the reputation of being "soft", like European players who come to the NBA. That may be have been part of the reason for the slide.

 
of the top of my head I got N suh and C Okoye. not exactly 'soft' there...
Meh, guys like KGB and the kid who is in Houston (on the line) don't scare me from a physical standpoint. I hate to throw generalities out there, but we are not talking Pacific Islanders here. My guess is that the lack of Suh (his early success in the NFL could have actually hurt Prince in that GMs/scouts may feel he benefitted too greatly from his prescense) could have been a determining factor.
 
I find it funny that most of the players being discussed in this thread as being "African-born" players weren't actually born in Africa.

Suh = Portland

Amukamara = Boston

KGB = Los Angeles

Osi = England

The only African-born players mentioned are both Nigerian-born

CHRISTIAN Okoye, retired Chiefs RB

AMOBI Okoye, Houston DT

 

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