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Speculation: Portis to change number to 21 (1 Viewer)
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then there was that whole boxing challenge..but this was before one of his close friends was killed
PahtyTom
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The_U
Footballguy
Nah. ST's number should not be retired, I agree. Superb player, incomplete career does not equate to a retire-worthy number. While the Skins ain't the Yankees, you can't retire 'em all.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Why did Taylor change his number from 36 (as a rookie) to 21?
redman
Footballguy
The literal answer is Smoot left. I liked that 36 on him because it looked like a safety's number, which fit with his wrecking ball style of play. I think he'd always liked that number and with Portis wearing 26 (which he'd worn at UM) he went with 21.
Whiplash Inc.
Footballguy
CP rules.
I don't think that the Redskins ever "retire" a number (maybe for Sammy Baugh) but they just don't issue the hallowed numbers (9, 44, 23, 81) again. Remember when some "hot shot" FA back during the OBC's time wanted Sonny's number and there was a big stink about it. For some reason I think it was Shane Matthews.
redman
Footballguy
It was Matthews. He made me forget about Sonny for a while, usually when he made me drink heavily.
dgreen
Footballguy
Why would the NFL care what jersey number he wears? It's within the allowed numbers for his position, so he's not breaking that rule. I can't think of any reason to not allow a player to change their number.
dgreen
Footballguy
Yes, Matthews wanted 9. He called Sonny to ask permission. Sonny said, "Sure, but I really don't think you want to deal with the crap you'll get for wearing 9." So, Matthews wore 6.Wuerfel wanted 7. I think he went through the same process as Matthews with Theismann and settled on 17.Then there was that undrafted rookie TE from Howard who wore 49. (What was his name?) That actually ended up being the final slap in the face for Mitchell and retired.I agree they shouldn't retire 21. I can see putting him into the Ring of Fame, though.
Koya
Footballguy
Agreed. Jack couldnt wear #40 because it was against the uniform code (and because the NFL can be real tight asses at times). This would be an allowable switch under any circumstances as 21 is a RB eligible number.
blend
Footballguy
I don't think they'll care if it was a change for good,but a change for a game, I think they'd raise a stink. I mean, the NFL has all kinds of crazy "uniform" related standards and I would think that allowing people to change their number for a game would be one such rule. I don't agree with it, but I can imagine them offering up a slippery slope argument along the lines of "what happens when another person passes and a player wants to pay tribute to them for a game"...
-jb-
Footballguy
_4_
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redman
Footballguy
dgreen
Footballguy
redman said:Indeed._4_ said:How Soon We Forget-jb- said::(War Ensemble said:
_4_
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Favre did damage to himself and his homelife, manned up, faced his demons and is a happier person today for it. Clinton Portis advocated Michael Vick's right to fight, kill and mutilate dogs because they were his, and it was his property. CP Rules. What a joke. Thug.redman said:Indeed._4_ said:How Soon We Forget-jb- said:War Ensemble said:
Billy Ball Thorton
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I'm sure you have never said anything you regret.. Thug!Favre did damage to himself and his homelife, manned up, faced his demons and is a happier person today for it. Clinton Portis advocated Michael Vick's right to fight, kill and mutilate dogs because they were his, and it was his property. CP Rules. What a joke. Thug.redman said:Indeed._4_ said:How Soon We Forget-jb- said:War Ensemble said:
_4_
Footballguy
I'm sure you have never said anything you regret.. Thug!Favre did damage to himself and his homelife, manned up, faced his demons and is a happier person today for it. Clinton Portis advocated Michael Vick's right to fight, kill and mutilate dogs because they were his, and it was his property. CP Rules. What a joke. Thug.redman said:Indeed._4_ said:How Soon We Forget-jb- said:War Ensemble said:
dgreen
Footballguy
Favre did damage to himself and his homelife, manned up, faced his demons and is a happier person today for it. Clinton Portis advocated Michael Vick's right to fight, kill and mutilate dogs because they were his, and it was his property. CP Rules. What a joke. Thug.redman said:Indeed._4_ said:How Soon We Forget-jb- said:War Ensemble said:
Statler & Waldorf
Footballguy
Isn't Favre a big hunter too? I don't know about you, but killing animals is a lot worse than someone having an opinion on killing animals in my book. That's just me though.Favre did damage to himself and his homelife, manned up, faced his demons and is a happier person today for it. Clinton Portis advocated Michael Vick's right to fight, kill and mutilate dogs because they were his, and it was his property. CP Rules. What a joke. Thug.redman said:Indeed._4_ said:How Soon We Forget-jb- said:War Ensemble said:
_4_
Footballguy
I am not a hunter and don't see the "sport" in it, but it is the means by which State DNR offices have determined the control of wildlife population is best handled. You could probably drum up a healthy debate in the FFA on the subject if you so desire. On the other hand, fighting dogs to the death and killing them by slamming them to the ground, drowning them and worse has been determined illegal and reprehensible by the courts and society. You would probably get much less debate on that.Isn't Favre a big hunter too? I don't know about you, but killing animals is a lot worse than someone having an opinion on killing animals in my book. That's just me though.Favre did damage to himself and his homelife, manned up, faced his demons and is a happier person today for it. Clinton Portis advocated Michael Vick's right to fight, kill and mutilate dogs because they were his, and it was his property. CP Rules. What a joke. Thug.redman said:Indeed._4_ said:How Soon We Forget-jb- said:War Ensemble said:
PantherPower
Footballguy
How quickly none of us would remember you if you got stuck under a rock and never posted here again_4_ said:How Soon We Forget-jb- said:War Ensemble said:
_4_
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Why is that? Did I strike a chord? It shouldn't pain one so to face reality, the world is brimming with it....How quickly none of us would remember you if you got stuck under a rock and never posted here again_4_ said:How Soon We Forget-jb- said:War Ensemble said:
Koya
Footballguy
Please get over yourself. You are commenting on things that, honestly, many of us don't believe you fully understand. Portis' comments in regard to dog fighting, without full understanding of the context of his intentions and the culture in which he (and Vick) may have been raised, are rather meaningless.Why is that? Did I strike a chord? It shouldn't pain one so to face reality, the world is brimming with it....How quickly none of us would remember you if you got stuck under a rock and never posted here again_4_ said:How Soon We Forget-jb- said:War Ensemble said:
Much like your little diatribes on how Portis is so awful for making his comments, without you looking at anything else about the man. As others mentioned, you could make a case that Favre is a bloodthirsty sadist for enjoying the killing of animals in his own right.
dgreen
Footballguy
You're certainly on a noble mission. Don't give up! Fight the good fight!Why is that? Did I strike a chord? It shouldn't pain one so to face reality, the world is brimming with it....How quickly none of us would remember you if you got stuck under a rock and never posted here again_4_ said:How Soon We Forget-jb- said:War Ensemble said:
_4_
Footballguy
I wrote, but erased a "diatribe" in response to this. It matters not. You and your ilk protest too much. Go on cheering Portis and his support of Vick. He rules!Please get over yourself. You are commenting on things that, honestly, many of us don't believe you fully understand. Portis' comments in regard to dog fighting, without full understanding of the context of his intentions and the culture in which he (and Vick) may have been raised, are rather meaningless.Why is that? Did I strike a chord? It shouldn't pain one so to face reality, the world is brimming with it....How quickly none of us would remember you if you got stuck under a rock and never posted here again_4_ said:How Soon We Forget-jb- said:War Ensemble said:
Much like your little diatribes on how Portis is so awful for making his comments, without you looking at anything else about the man. As others mentioned, you could make a case that Favre is a bloodthirsty sadist for enjoying the killing of animals in his own right.
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This thread is about Portis throwing a supportive jesture in Taylor's direction. A bit of a tribute. You are the one that brought up Vick and dog fighting. Not much tact on your part.I wrote, but erased a "diatribe" in response to this. It matters not. You and your ilk protest too much. Go on cheering Portis and his support of Vick. He rules!Please get over yourself. You are commenting on things that, honestly, many of us don't believe you fully understand. Portis' comments in regard to dog fighting, without full understanding of the context of his intentions and the culture in which he (and Vick) may have been raised, are rather meaningless.Why is that? Did I strike a chord? It shouldn't pain one so to face reality, the world is brimming with it....How quickly none of us would remember you if you got stuck under a rock and never posted here again_4_ said:How Soon We Forget-jb- said:War Ensemble said:
Much like your little diatribes on how Portis is so awful for making his comments, without you looking at anything else about the man. As others mentioned, you could make a case that Favre is a bloodthirsty sadist for enjoying the killing of animals in his own right.
Koya
Footballguy
Are you just this dense, or trying (rather unsuccessfully) to make a point?I never "cheered" Portis and his support. Just as you never took his comments in any context... here the man is trying to do right by a fallen friend, and you look to blanket his entire being by one set of comments?I wrote, but erased a "diatribe" in response to this. It matters not. You and your ilk protest too much. Go on cheering Portis and his support of Vick. He rules!Please get over yourself. You are commenting on things that, honestly, many of us don't believe you fully understand. Portis' comments in regard to dog fighting, without full understanding of the context of his intentions and the culture in which he (and Vick) may have been raised, are rather meaningless.Why is that? Did I strike a chord? It shouldn't pain one so to face reality, the world is brimming with it....How quickly none of us would remember you if you got stuck under a rock and never posted here again_4_ said:How Soon We Forget-jb- said:War Ensemble said:
Much like your little diatribes on how Portis is so awful for making his comments, without you looking at anything else about the man. As others mentioned, you could make a case that Favre is a bloodthirsty sadist for enjoying the killing of animals in his own right.
And just to touch re: hunting and dog fighting - examine it a bit closer. It may not be so different as some think. Especially if both are done primarily for sport. But, hunting is a pastime in our nation, and our nation is chock full of hypocrisy that protects things that our tradional "culture" embraces... and far too many simply tow that company line without actually giving much through to the objective realities that lay behind it.
And FWIW, hunting and dog fighting are not one and the same. But to dismiss any similiarities is to be rather ignorant of reality, especially for those who pursue the thrill of the kill, and not looking for dinner.
daveandken
Footballguy
This belongs in the FFA. But while we are at it, I guess you don't eat steak due to the cruely of slaughterhouses either?I'm with you on Portis. Great jesture. And it has nothing to do with his past comments. Bringing them up here is asinine.
Statler & Waldorf
Footballguy
I was just playing around. I was just stirring up the hornets nest a little in fun.
Koya
Footballguy
I love my steak. I was talking about hunting for the thrill of the kill... which is NO different than watching dogs fight to the death imo. And many hunters hunt for this reason (regardless of what they might say publicly). But my main point, which agrees with you, is that to bring up Portis' former comments, whether you understand them or not, whether you agree with them or not, does not belong here as Portis is trying to do the right thing.I will say this... those who jump to the "thug" card say a LOT about themselves, imo. And what they say is NOT flattering.
I don't think Portis is a thug, he just never really thinks before he talks. He always likes to hear himself talk and enjoys the media spotlight.Favre did damage to himself and his homelife, manned up, faced his demons and is a happier person today for it. Clinton Portis advocated Michael Vick's right to fight, kill and mutilate dogs because they were his, and it was his property. CP Rules. What a joke. Thug.redman said:Indeed._4_ said:How Soon We Forget-jb- said:War Ensemble said:
Statler & Waldorf
Footballguy
This will probably take a couple of weeks to materialize. I'm guessing that he'll probably ask Sean's family for their blessing in the change and that's not really something he'd want to bring up right now since everyone, inlcuding himself, are still mourning.
