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Spencer Ware, possibly the new work horse (2 Viewers)

Milkman said:
The Chiefs should trade Jamaal Charles. The only thing that worries me is Ware has shown in the past to be a little brittle.......

Still if the Chiefs can get a decent pick or two for Charles they should absolutely do it......
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They wouldnt get anything for him.30 year old rb coming off an acl?? Near worthless in nfl terms. And nfl teams dont run  franchices like ff. Its clear ur a ware fan boy but he is a replacement levell talent

 
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bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
They wouldnt get anything for him.30 year old rb coming off an acl?? Near worthless in nfl terms. And nfl teams dont run  franchices like ff. Its clear ur a ware fan boy but he is a replacement levell talent
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LOL yeah I am a ware fan boy. You will be too soon. You should grab him now on the cheap and send me a PM later to say thanks. I won't tell anybody cupcake. You guys are right that Charles won't command much in a trade though......

 
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Spencer Ware rushed five times for 24 yards and a touchdown in the Chiefs' preseason opener.
With Jamaal Charles (knee) still on the active/PUP, Ware started and clearly played ahead of Charcandrick West. Just like last season, Ware consistently created chunk plays on the ground, and he converted a one-yard touchdown to cap the Chiefs' opening drive. Ware is the backup to own in Kansas City, and he is a nice upside pick in the 13th round. Aug 13 - 5:42 PM
 
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8594/spencer-ware/1
 
Spencer Ware rushed nine times for 24 yards and a touchdown and caught four passes for 26 yards in the Chiefs' third preseason game.
Ware did not find much success on the ground, but he did convert on a goal-line carry for his third touchdown of the preseason. More importantly, he continued to be heavily involved in the passing game. After catching just six passes all of last season, Ware is now up to eight catches in the last two games. The clear handcuff to Jamaal Charles, Ware is worth a look in the double-digit rounds. Aug 27 - 3:10 PM
 
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8594/spencer-ware/1
 
Targeting this guy. The Bears were tough on the running game clogging lanes but he had good volume in the receiving game. This gives him added value going in. Charles should yield production to Ware and if Charles goes down ... Well Ware is going to be great value

 
Jamaal Charles - RB -  Chiefs



ESPN Chiefs reporter Adam Teicher reports Jamaal Charles "hasn’t regained the role -- full-time featured back -- he had before last season’s torn ACL."
Teicher reports Spencer Ware is handling most of Kansas City's first-team running back reps in practice. Specifically, Teicher wrote that Ware "generally gets a lot of the starter’s snaps in practice. Charcandrick West gets some. Sometimes there are a few left for Charles, too." On Tuesday, coach Andy Reid said Tamba Hali (knee) is "a little further along than what Jamaal is right now," in their respective recoveries. At this point, it's unclear what Charles' role will be in Week 1 against the Chargers. An early-year RBBC appears likely. Due to their backfield depth, Teicher suggests the Chiefs "can afford to take the longer view with Charles."

Related: Spencer Ware, Charcandrick West
 
Source: ESPN.com 
Aug 30 - 8:26 PM


 
KC hosts the Chargers in week 1, and Ware ran all over them last year: 19/148/2 in 2 games last year, and obviously splitting time in those games. The Chargers run defense should be better this year, but still not a bad game to give Charles a lighter workload.

 
need2know said:
I was able to get him off the wire in both my leagues, the charles owners asleep at the wheel.  Things are really looking up for ware 
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This is a deep roster keeper league, give up the draft pick you took the keeper with.

So mid round picks that hit are massive, just massive.

And Charles had a 7 mill cap hit next year, with no dead money.

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Oh geez dude
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Min. 50 carries, he was tied for 1st among RBs in YPC last season (5.6). Best film of the year might be a stretch, but he looked very good.

 
I don't expect a lot out of him this year if Charles returns to 100%, but if you're in a keeper or dynasty league, he's a good stash away guy. Could be Charles' last year in KC if he doesn't get back to form or at the very least could be a full timeshare next year.

 
zamboni said:
I don't expect a lot out of him this year if Charles returns to 100%, but if you're in a keeper or dynasty league, he's a good stash away guy. Could be Charles' last year in KC if he doesn't get back to form or at the very least could be a full timeshare next year.
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He's their GL back. 10+ tds is not out of his range.

 
Now reports coming out charles won't start week 1 and won't play much at all.  Who do we start ware over?  This guy needs to be in lineups vs sd

 
need2know said:
Now reports coming out charles won't start week 1 and won't play much at all.  Who do we start ware over?  This guy needs to be in lineups vs sd
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Choo, Fn, Choo, certainly if you drafted Charles and Ware, no brainer until Charles shows up.

Starting him in every league I own him over my WR4 in the flex.

 
As of now, Ware brings Charles' value down and Charles brings Ware's value down. The uncertainty of Charles' recovery from his ACL injury, combined with Ware's preseason performance, is driving his ADP pretty high. I've seen it creep into the tenth round now. So if you're determined to get him, you may have to reach into the eighth or ninth. That will pay off mightily if Charles doesn't regain his form and Ware holds on to the job. But it could end up being a high price to pay for a one or two week starter and then backup. Tough call. 

 
need2know said:
Now reports coming out charles won't start week 1 and won't play much at all.  Who do we start ware over?  This guy needs to be in lineups vs sd
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Where are these reports?

I think people misunderstood the article.  If you asked McCarthy whether Nelson has regained the #1 featured WR role, he'd say no.  Kelvin Benjamin has not taken over the #1 featured WR role.  Both those guys are being drafted without issue. Le'Veon is being drafted in the first despite missing 3 full games.

So what's the difference with Charles if he's eased into the season with 10-15 touches for a few games before they unleash him? I don't get it. 

Let's not forget that Ware is not very innately talented. Ware was a  6th round pick by the SEAHAWKS and was CUT.  Both Ware and West were successful last season. Why? Because the offense was very efficient and the o-line had awesome run-blocking.

The moment Charles is full-go this guy is going back to the junk pile.  

 
Phenomena said:
Where are these reports?

I think people misunderstood the article.  If you asked McCarthy whether Nelson has regained the #1 featured WR role, he'd say no.  Kelvin Benjamin has not taken over the #1 featured WR role.  Both those guys are being drafted without issue. Le'Veon is being drafted in the first despite missing 3 full games.

So what's the difference with Charles if he's eased into the season with 10-15 touches for a few games before they unleash him? I don't get it. 

Let's not forget that Ware is not very innately talented. Ware was a  6th round pick by the SEAHAWKS and was CUT.  Both Ware and West were successful last season. Why? Because the offense was very efficient and the o-line had awesome run-blocking.

The moment Charles is full-go this guy is going back to the junk pile.  
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Speaking on SiriusXM Fantasy, ESPN Chiefs reporter Adam Teicher suggested Jamaal Charles might not play Week 1.

"If he plays it won't be a lot," Teicher added. "He certainly won't be the starter." This is the second time this week Teicher has questioned Charles' early-season role, saying Tuesday he still has not established himself as the clear-cut No. 1 back. These comments take the concern even a step further, questioning if Charles will even play Week 1. Always overvalued at the top of the second round, Charles needs to be moved way down draft boards. Spencer Ware is worth a look as early as the sixth round
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Phenomena said:
Where are these reports?

I think people misunderstood the article.  If you asked McCarthy whether Nelson has regained the #1 featured WR role, he'd say no.  Kelvin Benjamin has not taken over the #1 featured WR role.  Both those guys are being drafted without issue. Le'Veon is being drafted in the first despite missing 3 full games.

So what's the difference with Charles if he's eased into the season with 10-15 touches for a few games before they unleash him? I don't get it. 

Let's not forget that Ware is not very innately talented. Ware was a  6th round pick by the SEAHAWKS and was CUT.  Both Ware and West were successful last season. Why? Because the offense was very efficient and the o-line had awesome run-blocking.

The moment Charles is full-go this guy is going back to the junk pile.  
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I'm not nearly as confident as you in Charles. Approaching 30, second ACL surgery. Neither are ideal scenarios for a guy whose success is based on speed. Not saying he can't get back to elite, but you'd be foolish not to consider the prospect that his best days could be behind him. And as a fantasy owner, I don't care one bit if my stud running back is getting me 20 points per week because he's an athletic freak like Adrian Peterson or just a good back in a great scheme. A lot of guys won championships with Mike Anderson, Olandis Gary, and Ruben Droughns. If Spencer Ware ends up being the lead dog, he's a RB1.

 
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Lol at going back in the junk pile. Do you even watch the games. Rawls is an UDFA last year. Does he suck too. 

 
FWIW Waldman was a big fan of his coming out. I think it is hard to argue that Ware is not a valuable handcuff. With an aging and injury recovering Charles in his way it is silly to ignore Ware. As well as the Chiefs knowing that Charles was recovering from a major injury and not addressing the position at all during this years draft.

 
Phenomena said:
Where are these reports?

I think people misunderstood the article.  If you asked McCarthy whether Nelson has regained the #1 featured WR role, he'd say no.  Kelvin Benjamin has not taken over the #1 featured WR role.  Both those guys are being drafted without issue. Le'Veon is being drafted in the first despite missing 3 full games.

So what's the difference with Charles if he's eased into the season with 10-15 touches for a few games before they unleash him? I don't get it. 

Let's not forget that Ware is not very innately talented. Ware was a  6th round pick by the SEAHAWKS and was CUT.  Both Ware and West were successful last season. Why? Because the offense was very efficient and the o-line had awesome run-blocking.

The moment Charles is full-go this guy is going back to the junk pile.  
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Not innately talented? Whatever this means...

 
What type of value do you give to West if Charles sits?  I have seen reports Reid has stated he plans for them to split carries.  Wondering if it's worth it to drop Starks or Forsett.  Even if Charles sits, West is still in a committee

 
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