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Spencer Ware, possibly the new work horse (3 Viewers)

Gottabesweet said:
Well whatever QB picks up more first downs essentially keeps Ware on the field longer for more touches.  I wasn't sure if Foles favors dumping his ball off the RB's the way Checkdown Smith does.
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The great thing about ware is he does short, intermediate, and deep routes solid.

 
SameSongNDance said:
No practice again today, I think it's safe to assume he's not playing. I hope this doesn't become a multi-week thing though.
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Im worried about that. Not a single update about where he is in the protocol, if he met with a neurologist, no practice, etc. I dont think we can assume hes back next week.

 
shadyridr said:
Im worried about that. Not a single update about where he is in the protocol, if he met with a neurologist, no practice, etc. I dont think we can assume hes back next week.
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Ive been thinking this whole week that the lack of communication about ware was odd. Also, Smith was ruled out early in the week despite his LACK of concussion. 

Maybe KC just has a very conservative approach to concussions. 

 
I'm not sure there can be much to update.  Each individual recovers from concussion symptoms and passes or fails tests differently.  This past season our high school team had some boys miss no games and some miss 4 games trying to pass testing.

 
shadyridr said:
SameSongNDance said:
No practice again today, I think it's safe to assume he's not playing. I hope this doesn't become a multi-week thing though.
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Im worried about that. Not a single update about where he is in the protocol, if he met with a neurologist, no practice, etc. I dont think we can assume hes back next week.
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There have been updates saying Ware didn't practice. When Cam was concussed, the only update on him during the week was that he didn't practice. He missed the game that week, but played the following week.

 
Maybe this is me trying to self-justify, but given the shenanigans around Alex Smith, KC may be purposefully not giving out detailed updates to draw attention to the way the follow protocol and risk opening up more scrutiny.

Either way, we all knew this was likely with no practicing Thursday, and would concern me way more if this was a knee/ankle/hammy etc. type of injury holding him back. He'll come back from a concussion, just needs to sufficiently clear the cobwebs.

Until next week, folks....

 
Stompin' Tom Connors said:
Maybe this is me trying to self-justify, but given the shenanigans around Alex Smith, KC may be purposefully not giving out detailed updates to draw attention to the way the follow protocol and risk opening up more scrutiny.

Either way, we all knew this was likely with no practicing Thursday, and would concern me way more if this was a knee/ankle/hammy etc. type of injury holding him back. He'll come back from a concussion, just needs to sufficiently clear the cobwebs.

Until next week, folks....
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After that tragedy they endured surrounding that linebacker, who can blame them.

 
He's ruled out... But has there been any thing said by Reid at all?  I've seen no quotes or discussion on where he stands with protocol.

Next Sunday send to be in jeopardy too

 
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Best case scenario for those of us that have West as cuff.  I think if Ware had played this week they'd have taken it easy with him.  Then you basically get half of a RB with each of them.  Now he gets to get 100% and West goes back to 30% spelling in week 10.

 
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SCT said:
Best case scenario for those of us that have West as cuff.  I think if Ware had played this week they'd have taken it easy with him.  Then you basically get half of a RB with each of them.  Now he gets to get 100% and West goes back to 30% spelling in week 10.
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Yep, couldn't be happier about how this is playing out. Give Ware the week off and West should be a bellcow back in a good matchup. Hopefully Ware is good to go next week.

 
Yeah it could be like the concussion with maclin last year. he practices and was good to go and was a surprise scratch.  or worse they have him active and don't use him.  it's better this way

 
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Bucsfan5493 said:
Yep, couldn't be happier about how this is playing out. Give Ware the week off and West should be a bellcow back in a good matchup. Hopefully Ware is good to go next week.
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Ironically, I'm not pulling for West to be tooooo good...if he goes for something like 180 and 2 tds it could earn him a bigger role.

 
What should we expect from West this week?  I've got Hyde (highly questionable) and Ingram (great matchup, huge question mark).  I'd think West would be safer than either. 

 
iamkoza said:
He's ruled out... But has there been any thing said by Reid at all?  I've seen no quotes or discussion on where he stands with protocol.

Next Sunday send to be in jeopardy too
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Reid said in his press conference today that Spencer was making progress.

 
C-Bound said:
Ironically, I'm not pulling for West to be tooooo good...if he goes for something like 180 and 2 tds it could earn him a bigger role.
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exactly.  tough spot to be in here as I hope Ware is still THE GUY once he's back.

Ideally I'd like to see 30 carries for 90 yards and 1 td. :P

 
I think jax might actually have a chance in this game. if they somehow win, they will be wanting ware back even more than already do.

 
matttyl said:
What should we expect from West this week?  I've got Hyde (highly questionable) and Ingram (great matchup, huge question mark).  I'd think West would be safer than either. 
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Should be an easy plug-and-play RB1. No real reason I'd expect much less than 100 total yards and 1 TD. Potential for a lot of points in PPR. The Chiefs are simply a RB machine. 

 
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Gottabesweet said:
Still too good.  16 carries 38 yards 0 TD's  8 PPR catches  40 yards.    15.8 PPR points.
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haha for those of us in standard leagues that's not good enough.  Also want them to continue to hand the ball off a ton to show they're committed to that.  Ok, I'll adjust it:

25 carries for 60 yards, 5 catches for 25 yards, 1 td, 2 fumbles. 

 
Ok, I'll update my ideal  PPR prediction:  9 carries, 85 yds. 1 td (84 yd td run), 6 catches 11 yds. 1 td. (10 yd. td catch)

 
C-Bound said:
Ironically, I'm not pulling for West to be tooooo good...if he goes for something like 180 and 2 tds it could earn him a bigger role.
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Very good point actually, wasn't thinking about that.

I had Evans and Matt Bryant going last night in all 3 of my leagues this week and Winston in 2, so I probably won't need too much from him this week anyways. I could go for a not so good statline if he can get 8-9 points in standard leagues.

 
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Come on guys, if Ware is the stud we believe he is a good game by West vs the lowly Jags means nothing. Remember when Knile Davis had those monster games 2 years ago when Charles was banged up and some were screaming RBBC?  Same here - don't sweat it. Ware squarely beat out a healthy West in the offseason; missing a week isn't going to change that. 

As a West handcuff owner, I hope he goes 150/2 this week. 

 
Andrew74 said:
Come on guys, if Ware is the stud we believe he is a good game by West vs the lowly Jags means nothing. Remember when Knile Davis had those monster games 2 years ago when Charles was banged up and some were screaming RBBC?  Same here - don't sweat it. Ware squarely beat out a healthy West in the offseason; missing a week isn't going to change that. 

As a West handcuff owner, I hope he goes 150/2 this week. 
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Agreed.  But if west does tear it up this week it will also be a lot easier to see that it's the system that's maki the rbs in KCmofe than the talent of the rbs. 

To your point, knife davis excelled in this system.  So did Charles. So did ware. So did west last year.  

Not trying to take anything away from ware.  Just saying I wonder how ANY of these rbs, including Charles, would be on another team, like the jags for instance. 

Put them all on the jags, a team who couldn't run the ball against a HS defense, and then you'll see if Charles is really elite, or if ware is really as studly as he seems.  

It reminds me of MJD.  Man I loved his game.  The jags were terrible while he was there.  Worse than they are now.  They had no talent and no great qb.  Other rbs had trouble getting yards behind that line.  But mjd was absolute bowling ball who created yards on his own.  

He was a guy like sjax.  Both of them.  Put them in their prime on a team like Dallas or kc with those O   Lines and those schemes and they could have come t as the top 2 rbs to ever play the game.  

 
rickyg said:
Agreed.  But if west does tear it up this week it will also be a lot easier to see that it's the system that's maki the rbs in KCmofe than the talent of the rbs. 

To your point, knife davis excelled in this system.  So did Charles. So did ware. So did west last year.  

Not trying to take anything away from ware.  Just saying I wonder how ANY of these rbs, including Charles, would be on another team, like the jags for instance. 

Put them all on the jags, a team who couldn't run the ball against a HS defense, and then you'll see if Charles is really elite, or if ware is really as studly as he seems.  

It reminds me of MJD.  Man I loved his game.  The jags were terrible while he was there.  Worse than they are now.  They had no talent and no great qb.  Other rbs had trouble getting yards behind that line.  But mjd was absolute bowling ball who created yards on his own.  

He was a guy like sjax.  Both of them.  Put them in their prime on a team like Dallas or kc with those O   Lines and those schemes and they could have come t as the top 2 rbs to ever play the game.  
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I think Charles would has excelled anywhere. He has the second highest career yards per carry average for any RB to ever play.  It's one thing to have a couple good years, but to keep that high average over 8 years.  Wow!  That is the player more than the system.  Add in the fact that he is one of the few who us just as deadly in the passing game.  Remember, he was doing this for five years before Reid came to KC too.  It's unfortunate to see his career end in a fizzle.

 
Of course there is concern that a strong West performance would impact Ware.  As there should be for anyone with an open mind about it who is not just so in love with Ware.

I have Ware in 3 leagues now.  Only one do I have West (one...someone had him stashed and I had no room to even attempt...nor do I need him...other one we have so limited bench spots and roster moves that Ware was a pickup and I just don't have the space for West).

Thankfully, the league I do have West is one where I do need that player from time to time (with McCoy hurt especially).  Id much rather have Ware be the guy...but its easy to see West having a nice day and them realizing a 60/40 split is the best thing for the team.  Even if that does not work out the best for FF purposes.  That is my concern.

 
sho nuff said:
West having a nice day and them realizing a 60/40 split is the best thing for the team.  Even if that does not work out the best for FF purposes.  That is my concern.
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Wasn't West getting about 40% the first two games of the season? He got dinged up after that.

 
rickyg said:
Agreed.  But if west does tear it up this week it will also be a lot easier to see that it's the system that's maki the rbs in KCmofe than the talent of the rbs. 

To your point, knife davis excelled in this system.  So did Charles. So did ware. So did west last year.  

Not trying to take anything away from ware.  Just saying I wonder how ANY of these rbs, including Charles, would be on another team, like the jags for instance. 

Put them all on the jags, a team who couldn't run the ball against a HS defense, and then you'll see if Charles is really elite, or if ware is really as studly as he seems.  

It reminds me of MJD.  Man I loved his game.  The jags were terrible while he was there.  Worse than they are now.  They had no talent and no great qb.  Other rbs had trouble getting yards behind that line.  But mjd was absolute bowling ball who created yards on his own.  

He was a guy like sjax.  Both of them.  Put them in their prime on a team like Dallas or kc with those O   Lines and those schemes and they could have come t as the top 2 rbs to ever play the game.  
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MJD was special. Loved that guy and was key to many championships.

 
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